Anyone know ancient versions of XLC?
I know this is a strange place to ask, but it's as good a place as any. Anyone on here used IBM's XLC in very old versions? Anyone know what the argument -qdebug=austlib does? I can't seem to find any documentation that says... It would have been an argument for the compiler shipping with AIX 3.2.5, I believe. Thanks in advance!
Re: DEC H8575-A DB25 to MMJ
I found some more DEC MMJ crimpers that look pretty decent out there on eBay, but they're not well labelled. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ideal-30-558-Crimp-Die-for-RJ-11-MJ-Modular-Plug-Crimpmaster-Tool-Frame-30-506/333697351548 $15 plus shipping new (2 avail) MMJ die for ideal crimp frame 30-506. There are new and used Ideal 30-506 frames on eBay for reasonable prices. Search for "Ideal 30-506". https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ideal-Twisted-Pair-Kit-33-650-w-Plugs-and-30-506-30-559-30-560-30-558-Dies/265100183244 $55 plus shipping used kit (2 avail) including above die, other dies, and 30-506 crimp frame plus cable cutter and stripper. https://www.ebay.com/itm/IDEAL-TWISTED-PAIR-KIT-45-074/301901645725 $55 free ship in US used Ideal kit (without case) similar to above including DEC MMJ and other dies and tools, but of a different vintage And it could be worth searching for Crimpmaster instead of Ideal. There are lots of used Ideal Crimpmaster frames with dies, but not all of them include Ideal in the description. Maybe some of them are DEC RJ-11 MMJ. -- Ron Pool
Re: DEC H8575-A DB25 to MMJ
I've got a used Paladin ratcheting crimper handle with a new 2067 die. Works great on my DEC MMJ connectors. So I don't need any of these very similar looking kits that include dies that are labelled RJ11 DEC, DEC RJ11 MMJ, or similar designations. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ratcheting-Crimper-for-RJ-Style-Modular-Plugs-6-Style-Sets-of-Crimping-Heads/323974009963?hash=item4b6e5b146b:g:AB0AAOSwHv1dxdrR $79.50 used free ship in US https://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Box-Data-Voice-Kit-LAN-Pro-Tester-FT115A-Impact-Crimper-BRAND-NEW/184498239808 $150 "new" free ship in US. Look at the picture of the data sheet and you'll see one of the dies is MMJ. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tele-Coax-1586-Tool-Kit-Weidmuller-Inc-Paladin-Tools-Greenlee-Tools-Computer/254690789261 $150 plus shipping - one of the end views of the dies looks exactly like my 2067 RJ11 DEC-MMJ die set eBay has multiple listings of "Eclipse 500-031" kit. One of the dies in the kit is labelled RJ-11 DEC. The side view of that die looks like my 2067 die, but that doesn't guarantee it's the same or any good. And these kits seem to also be available new from lots of places, though I also see signs that some Eclipse crimper sets and individual handles and dies are discontinued. An eBay search for "ECLIPSE 500-031" finds many new for $183.59 (free shipping) and up. Searching for "DEC RJ11" on eBay finds a bunch of different looking crimpers, many of which look like they can handle DEC RJ11 connectors with the offset latch (DEC MMJ). But most of these look to be of lower quality. Watch out as there are also plenty of crimpers turned up by that search that definitely won't handle the offset latch of MMJ connectors. -- Ron Pool
Re: RSX11D disks on EBAY- anyone interested?
On 4/7/21 1:23 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: . (Interestingly, the Dilog card above claims to the RKV11 compatible; but also says it has "memory addressing capability" to 256KB. They can't both be true, though; although the RKV11-D has the A16/A18 bits in the CSR, they aren't connected to anything! See EK-RKV11-OP-001, pg. 3-5.) Noel Perhaps the marketing assumption is that if you are compatible with 16 bit addressing, you don't even bother to check for 18 bit functionality. I always wondered why the RKV11-D was only 16 bit addressable. In those early days of the QBUS, perhaps the evolution of the architecture wasn't as clear. Or was it an intention limitation? The DEC RK05 disk subsystem cost $10K list circa 1978 (drive, RKV-11D controller and cabinet), so this wasn't a trivial purchase. I used the the Dilog card (IIRC) with both the Diablo 31 and Dec RK05 drives on LSI 11/23+ and 11/73's. We had a cable that connected to the Diablo and then we daisy chained to the RK05. We had to be careful since we were mixing 1 of N and decode N drive selection, but if you only had a few drives it was not too bad. Jerry
Re: Lisa Source Code
On 4/7/21 12:21 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > On 4/7/21 12:06 PM, John Foust via cctalk wrote: > >> What is it? > > name changed > > https://github.com/aaru-dps/Aaru Amazing. At least two of their image formats were originated by yours truly--and I was never contacted to confirm details. Okay, I've got a WORM disc here--how do they propose to archive that? (recall that unwritten sectors can't be read). --Chuck
Re: Lisa Source Code
On 4/7/21 12:06 PM, John Foust via cctalk wrote: What is it? name changed https://github.com/aaru-dps/Aaru
Re: Lisa Source Code
At 08:52 PM 4/6/2021, Lyle Bickley via cctalk wrote: > I converted them to Unix end of line conventions and spaces for >Pascal tabs after recovering the files using Disk Image Chef, OK I'll bite. Googling for quote Disk Image Chef doesn't turn up much beyond this press release (which is all over the web in many languages.) What is it? - John
Re: RSX11D disks on EBAY- anyone interested?
> From: Ethan Dicks > One of these? > .. > Looks neat. Wow; that's pretty impressive! Not only will it talk to an RK05, it also works with drives from Ampex, Control Data, Diable, Pertec, etc, etc. I didn't realize they were all similar enough (in terms to the controller interface) to be interchanged like that. For the RK05, it must have used a flat cable from the Berg header on the card to a custom dual card that plugged into the mini-backplane in the RK05 (similar to the RKV11-D). > From: Chris Zach > I have wondered if the Plessy can do 22 bit DMA Depends on whether or not it's program compatible with the RK11. That's because on almost alll UNIBUS controllers, DEC was in the habit of putting the A16/A17 bits of the buffer address in the CSR (usually in the 060 bits). So they could only handle 18-bit DMA addresses. Early QBUS contollers just copied that, so that they were then 100% software compatible. That's why the RLV11 and RLV12 differ a bit: the RLV11 is 18-bit address only; to add 22-bit capability to the RLV12, they had to add an extra register (the RLBAE). (Interestingly, the Dilog card above claims to the RKV11 compatible; but also says it has "memory addressing capability" to 256KB. They can't both be true, though; although the RKV11-D has the A16/A18 bits in the CSR, they aren't connected to anything! See EK-RKV11-OP-001, pg. 3-5.) Noel
Re: DEC H8575-A DB25 to MMJ
On 4/7/2021 10:43 AM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 9:53 AM Jonathan Stone wrote: Google Shopping shows the PA2067 MMJ die available at 3 online stores. Digi-Key lists it too. What are the pros and cons of the die and a PA8000 CrimpALL, versus the IEC tool ( https://iec.net/product/modular-crimp-tool-for-rj11-dec-mmj-connectors/) ? If one either already has an RJ45 crimp tool; or doesn't have any crimping tool at all? I can't answer the question about how the Paladin / Greenlee / Tempo Communications PA8000 CrimpALL + PA2067 MMJ die compares to other crimping tools. I don't have any first hand comparison knowledge. I have two of the Paladin Crimpall handles. I keep a DEC MMJ die (PA2067) in one and the other gets swapped with RJ45 and RJ11/12 as needed. They work well and the ratchet handle allows a good amount of crimp pressure. As far as availability of the PA2067 dies, Mouser and DigiKey say Obsolete and none in stock. The PA8035 (PA8000 with PA2067) that I have I bought from Online Components. They now show none in stock for both the PA8035 and PA2067. While there might be some of these floating around in inventory somewhere, I'm skeptical that most that show up in search results for online stores are actually available. Most likely if an order was placed it would be canceled after a few days when the seller realizes they have none in stock and they can no longer order any from the manufacturer. There are lots of sources for the crimper handles. Look for the PA1300 and PA8000 as typical examples. But the dies are fading. As Glen mentions, the hits you get for the PA2067 from Google are all false hits. The most promising one I found was Gordon Electronics, but I confirmed with a phone call this morning that it is a non-stock item that they have to order from the factory - so no go there. I have looked at the GreenLee and Tempo web sites and there is very little mentioned. Tempo has a "Discontinued Items" section and you will find the crimper handles and dies listed. I don't know when they went out of production. My assumption is that Paladin was bought by Greenlee and then sold to Tempo as it seems Tempo is the most recent source. In any case, the DEC MMJ die is virtually extinct in the wild and the others seem to be going away also. I've ordered the IEC crimper to see what it's like and to have a backup in case something happens to my Paladin. Hopefully, it is a good tool and IEC keeps it in production as it seems to be the only source now. -- John H. Reinhardt
DZ11 H317-E EIA distribution panel on eBay
This item: https://www.ebay.com/itm/383837694443 (described as just an "EIA distribution panel" in the listing) turns out to be a DZ11 distribution panel, if anyone needs/wants one. The price is vaguely reasonable, but maybe the seller would accept a lower offer. Noel
Re: DEC H8575-A DB25 to MMJ
On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 9:53 AM Jonathan Stone wrote: > > Google Shopping shows the PA2067 MMJ die available at 3 online stores. > Digi-Key lists it too. > > What are the pros and cons of the die and a PA8000 CrimpALL, versus the IEC > tool ( > https://iec.net/product/modular-crimp-tool-for-rj11-dec-mmj-connectors/) ? If > one either already has an RJ45 crimp tool; or doesn't have any crimping tool > at all? I can't answer the question about how the Paladin / Greenlee / Tempo Communications PA8000 CrimpALL + PA2067 MMJ die compares to other crimping tools. I don't have any first hand comparison knowledge. As far as availability of the PA2067 dies, Mouser and DigiKey say Obsolete and none in stock. The PA8035 (PA8000 with PA2067) that I have I bought from Online Components. They now show none in stock for both the PA8035 and PA2067. While there might be some of these floating around in inventory somewhere, I'm skeptical that most that show up in search results for online stores are actually available. Most likely if an order was placed it would be canceled after a few days when the seller realizes they have none in stock and they can no longer order any from the manufacturer.
Re: DEC H8575-A DB25 to MMJ
I have the IEC version. It seems to work fine for me. Pat On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 2:45 PM Jonathan Stone via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > Google Shopping shows the PA2067 MMJ die available at 3 online stores. > Digi-Key lists it too. > > > What are the pros and cons of the die and a PA8000 CrimpALL, versus the IEC > tool ( > https://iec.net/product/modular-crimp-tool-for-rj11-dec-mmj-connectors/ > ) ? If one either already has an RJ45 crimp tool; or doesn't have any > crimping tool at all? > >
Re: RSX11D disks on EBAY- anyone interested?
*nod* I have a Plessy board that interfaces to my Diablo drive and emulates 4 RK05's. The Diablo controller there is 18 bit only, I have wondered if the Plessy can do 22 bit DMA, need to try that sometime... C On 4/7/2021 1:59 AM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 11:48 PM Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 4/6/21 8:31 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > From: Al Kossow > I have to find my qbus rk11 card. The RKV11-D is a set of 4 quad cards It isn't that, it's a single-card controller made by Xylogics. Thanks for playing. One of these? http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dilog/brochures/DQ100_Brochure_Aug1980.pdf Looks neat. I could have used one of those 25-30 years ago. -ethan
Apollo Date Bug
Hi All, Back after a long time away from this list... I happen to have a small herd of Apollo DN3500/4500 boxen which i pulled out the other day to see if they still run. Sure enough they still boot up (one has a flaky PS but i have a few spares). Anyway, the last time i fired one of them up (runs SR 10.4.1) was around 2015 and it still was able to deal with the current date back then. This last time the other day I did an EX CALENDAR to reset the date to the current date and it defaulted to some date in 2015 again and i wasn't even able to log on using my known login. I figured it was due to the well known date bug so i reset the date back to 2013 (of course it warned me about possible duplicate file IDs, etc) but I was able to log in again. My question, has there been any progress in fixing the date bug by anyone (who still has some of these machines) (I'm thinking guys like R. Stricklin..). Or is this pretty much a dead end? I know HP put out a "patch" which according to Jim Rees's page was never really an effective patch to begin with...Any insight would be appreciated. -Kurt
