Re: VAX/VMS 4.0 source listings scans

2021-12-14 Thread Joerg Hoppe via cctalk

Hi Emanuel,


Full micro fiche scans of VAX/VMS 4.0/4.1 source listings are now 
published at
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/vax/microfiche/vms-source-listings/AH-BT13A-SE__VAX-VMS_V4.0_SRC_LST_MCRF/AH-BT13A-SE__VAX-VMS_V4.0_SRC_LST_MCRF/ 


THANKS A LOT FOR DOING THIS !!!



Not sure who needs to know.
Perhaps they are useful for emulation crash analysis, or for 
educational purposes.

You also see the highly optimizing BLISS32 compiler at work.


Spent already hours yesterday staring at the code ;-)


Me too!

Btw, the "Internals" documents in 
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/vax/vms/training/

train you to understand these sources.



Thanks again, I guess you spent some time on that ...


Oh yes, I did.

best regards,

Joerg




Re: VAX/VMS 4.0 source listings scans

2021-12-14 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk

On 2021-12-14 12:25, Joerg Hoppe via cctech wrote:
Full micro fiche scans of VAX/VMS 4.0/4.1 source listings are now 
published at
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/vax/microfiche/vms-source-listings/AH-BT13A-SE__VAX-VMS_V4.0_SRC_LST_MCRF/AH-BT13A-SE__VAX-VMS_V4.0_SRC_LST_MCRF/ 


THANKS A LOT FOR DOING THIS !!!



Not sure who needs to know.
Perhaps they are useful for emulation crash analysis, or for educational 
purposes.

You also see the highly optimizing BLISS32 compiler at work.


Spent already hours yesterday staring at the code ;-)

Thanks again, I guess you spent some time on that ...


Re: Wanted: IBM PC compatible 8 or 16 bit Arcnet cards

2021-12-14 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk

On 12/13/21 2:44 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote:
The Doom application contained a network stack that would handle the 
higher layers.  IIRC, you still had to load a packet driver shim, 
but perhaps not.  It's been a lng time since I've done it.


I know that Doom was an IPX capable network game.  It's more that I had 
mis-categorized ARCnet in my head as an atypical / non-standard network. 
 I now know that I was incorrect in that.


But you definitely could play up to 4 players when each machine had 
an ARCnet card.  Ethernet cards worked too but they cost a lot more 
at the time.


https://apenwarr.ca/arcnet/howto/cabling.html

You just take 4 BNCs and 4 resistors.  Tie all the grounds together 
(can use a metal bar or wire or whatever) and connect one resistor 
to each core and tie all 4 resistors together.


Interesting.

Thank you for elaborating.

In other words, ARCnet supports a Star topology that Ethernet does not. 
It's a token-passing scheme, not CSMA (collision detection).


ACK



--
Grant. . . .
unix || die


VAX/VMS 4.0 source listings scans

2021-12-14 Thread Joerg Hoppe via cctalk
Full micro fiche scans of VAX/VMS 4.0/4.1 source listings are now 
published at

http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/vax/microfiche/vms-source-listings/AH-BT13A-SE__VAX-VMS_V4.0_SRC_LST_MCRF/AH-BT13A-SE__VAX-VMS_V4.0_SRC_LST_MCRF/

The update to V4.1 is at
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/vax/microfiche/vms-source-listings/AH-BT13A-SE__VAX-VMS_V4.0_SRC_LST_MCRF/AH-EF71A-SE__VAX-VMS_V4.1_SRC_LST_MCRF_UPD/

Not sure who needs to know.
Perhaps they are useful for emulation crash analysis, or for educational 
purposes.

You also see the highly optimizing BLISS32 compiler at work.

regards,
Joerg





Re: OT, assembly houses in the US

2021-12-14 Thread Jonathan Chapman via cctalk
We do both THT and SMD in prototype and production quantities here at Glitch 
Works, LLC. We're located in central VA. You can email me off-list if 
interested.

Thanks,
Jonathan

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On Tuesday, December 14th, 2021 at 14:23, emanuel stiebler via cctalk 
 wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> where do you guys go for assembly of your boards, when you replace old
>
> stuff?
>
> Not too many places like THT anymore, and getting ridiculously expensive
>
> lately.
>
> Any recommendations?


OT, assembly houses in the US

2021-12-14 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk

Hi all,
where do you guys go for assembly of your boards, when you replace old 
stuff?
Not too many places like THT anymore, and getting ridiculously expensive 
lately.


Any recommendations?