Re: Also WTB: DEC VSXXX-AA Mouse or Compatible

2022-02-11 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk



> On Feb 11, 2022, at 2:52 PM, Jonathan Stone via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> If available, I'd like to purchase a bunch.

FWIW: it would not be all that hard to convert from readily available USB (or 
PS2) mice to DEC protocol.  I did the analogous work for keyboards (LK201) on 
Arduino.  That same hardware could do this job with different firmware  Someone 
asked me about that a while ago; it's not something I would undertake because I 
don't have any relevant systems to use it on, but it doesn't look like a 
difficult job.

paul




Re: Also WTB: DEC VSXXX-AA Mouse or Compatible

2022-02-11 Thread Rico Pajarola via cctalk
if you end up buying "a few kilograms" of those mice, I could use a couple,
too (I'm also in the Bay Area).


On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 11:52 AM Jonathan Stone via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

>
> If available, I'd like to purchase a bunch. I am setting up a lab to work
> on X11 (and then accelerated X11) support for NetBSD, on:
>  - Vaxstation II
>  - Vaxstation II/GPX
>  - vaxstation 2000 with 8-plane GPX, and mono if I can find another chassis
>  - microvax 3100 with. mono, GPX, and/or SPX
>  - DECstation 5000 with a range of Turbochannel graphics options (and
> 3100s if I fix more PSUs)
>  - Dec 3000 AXP, with a range of Turbohannel graphics options ( I have
> 300, 500, 600, and 700)
>
> I vaguely recall someone (in Australia?) mentioning they had -CA or -GA
> mice "by the kilogram". I'd pay fair price and shipping to the USA.
> (I live in the San Francisco Bay Area) .
>
> Obviously I can move a single mouse around if required, but that can cause
> issues on reboot when no mouse is present.
>
> 3W3 to BNC. (BC29G), BC18P/BC19S, DEC DB15-to-RGB (mono or RGB,
> BC23J-03?), and DEC DB15 to mouse/keyboard cables (17-02640-01), also
> sought after.j
>


Also WTB: DEC VSXXX-AA Mouse or Compatible

2022-02-11 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
 
If available, I'd like to purchase a bunch. I am setting up a lab to work on 
X11 (and then accelerated X11) support for NetBSD, on:
 - Vaxstation II
 - Vaxstation II/GPX
 - vaxstation 2000 with 8-plane GPX, and mono if I can find another chassis
 - microvax 3100 with. mono, GPX, and/or SPX
 - DECstation 5000 with a range of Turbochannel graphics options (and 3100s if 
I fix more PSUs)
 - Dec 3000 AXP, with a range of Turbohannel graphics options ( I have 300, 
500, 600, and 700)

I vaguely recall someone (in Australia?) mentioning they had -CA or -GA mice 
"by the kilogram". I'd pay fair price and shipping to the USA. 
(I live in the San Francisco Bay Area) .

Obviously I can move a single mouse around if required, but that can cause 
issues on reboot when no mouse is present.

3W3 to BNC. (BC29G), BC18P/BC19S, DEC DB15-to-RGB (mono or RGB, BC23J-03?), and 
DEC DB15 to mouse/keyboard cables (17-02640-01), also sought after.j  


Re: TTL substitute for DTL

2022-02-11 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 2/10/22 22:39, Brent Hilpert wrote:
> On 2022-Feb-10, at 9:50 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> 
>> I've got a piece of gear here with a bad MC858P used as a bus
>> driver--terminated in 220/330 ohms at the far end.
>>
>> Given that old DTL is a hit-or-miss proposition, I'm proposing to
>> substitute a 7438 OC buffer.  Pinout's the same, as is Vcc.
>>
>> Before I get out the soldering iron, any "don't do it" thoughts?
> 
> 
> Are you sure the pinouts match? The Moto book I'm looking at indicates the 
> 858 gates are 'pointing to the middle' (outputs:3,4,10,11) in contrast to the 
> 7438 common 'all gates pointing to the right' (outputs:3,6,8,11).
> 
> I've replaced DTL with TTL on occasion or two in the past. They're both 
> current-sinking logic so they work together well enough as far as 
> output-input drive.



Close enough--using an SOIC-to-DIP breakout board, swap pins 8-10 and
6-4 and Bob should be your uncle.  Use 7438 SOIC, of course.

At least I believe that should work.   Prices for NOS DTL are
predictably crazy.

--Chuck



Re: WTB: DEC VSXXX-AA Mouse or Compatible

2022-02-11 Thread Jonathan Chapman via cctalk
Wow, that was quick! Mouse acquired.

Thanks,
Jonathan

--- Original Message ---

On Friday, February 11th, 2022 at 10:06, Jonathan Chapman via cctalk 
 wrote:

> All,
>
> I'm looking for a DEC VSXXX-AA "hockey puck" mouse or compatible for a 
> VAXstation 3100.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jonathan


WTB: DEC VSXXX-AA Mouse or Compatible

2022-02-11 Thread Jonathan Chapman via cctalk
All,

I'm looking for a DEC VSXXX-AA "hockey puck" mouse or compatible for a 
VAXstation 3100.

Thanks,
Jonathan






Re: Wanted: Pinout IDT 49C402 PGA84

2022-02-11 Thread Holm Tiffe via cctalk
Glen Slick via cctalk wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 3:21 PM Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk
>  wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 10 Feb 2022, Holm Tiffe via cctalk wrote:
> >
> > > Has anyone a databook newer than 1989 where the PGA84  Pinout is listed?
> >
> >  It seems like datasheetarchive.com has a copy of a 1995 datasheet listing
> > what you need ("IDT49C402/A/B 16-BIT CMOS Microprocessor Slice", IDT doc
> > #9011; original, not a scan).  I have just downloaded it.
> 
> See also:
> 
> http://www.bitsavers.org/components/idt/_dataBooks/1995_IDT_High-Performance_Logic_Data_Book.pdf
> 
> Chapter 11, 16-BIT CMOS MICROPROCESSOR SLICE
> IDT49C402, IDT49C402A, IDT49C402B
> Page 4 of Chapter 11, PGA TOP VIEW


Thx Maciej and Glen, got the files now..


Kind Regards
Holm
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