[cctalk] Re: BBS memorabilia (fwd)

[ED SHARPE via cctalk]

Ok I know  what I am watching  tonight! Thanks!  Ed#

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  On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 5:22 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk 
wrote:   The greatest ever video about pre-WWW internet was "Hyperland".
a 1991 BBC documentary by Douglas Adams and Ted Nelson, and also starring Tom 
Baker.
A few years BEFORE WWW, it predicted the future of the internet.

https://archive.org/details/DouglasAdams-Hyperland


If you want subtitles/captions, 5 years ago, I created an .SRT (camptions file 
of it!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4hCJm9ZEADCblVSVlBxdmZyREU/view?usp=drive_web
(400MB video with subtitles burned in)
.SRT file:
http://www.xenosoft.com/HyperlandCAPS_En_US_0_77.srt

  

[cctalk] Re: BBS memorabilia

[Chuck Guzis via cctalk]

On 8/1/22 18:58, Ryan de Laplante via cctalk wrote:

> Thank you Chuck.   You’re right, I’ve never heard of Auntie.   Thanks for 
> letting me know about it, but I’m mainly interested in the more mainstream 
> ones.  

Well, it depends, Auntie was the software for ATT-PAC as well as Walnut
Creek BBS.   We used it at Sydex because we could tailor the operation
of various commands, as well as run it in multiuser mode on Win NT.

BBS for the 510 area code.

http://bbslist.textfiles.com/510/oldschool.html

Neither of the two BBS mentioned were small operations.   If, on the
other hand, you were thinking about game-oriented BBS, then Auntie is
probably not it.

I went through a pile BBS software before I settle on Auntie.

--Chuck

[cctalk] Re: BBS memorabilia (fwd)

[Fred Cisin via cctalk]

The greatest ever video about pre-WWW internet was "Hyperland".
a 1991 BBC documentary by Douglas Adams and Ted Nelson, and also starring Tom 
Baker.
A few years BEFORE WWW, it predicted the future of the internet.
https://archive.org/details/DouglasAdams-Hyperland
If you want subtitles/captions, 5 years ago, I created an .SRT (captions file) 
of it!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4hCJm9ZEADCblVSVlBxdmZyREU/view?usp=drive_web
(400MB video with subtitles burned in)
.SRT file:
http://www.xenosoft.com/HyperlandCAPS_En_US_0_77.srt


On Mon, 1 Aug 2022, Ryan de Laplante via cctalk wrote:

Wow great find, thank you!


In 1991, Ted offered to set aside a studio quality tape of it for me.
But, we didn't see each other again for almost a decade, and then he 
could no longer find a good copy.


So, I've had to make do with off-air copies that you can download from 
the web.


Five years ago, with the help of a friend (my hearing had gone from mildly 
Hard of Hearing to functionally deaf), I made a captions file for it.
Neither of us being British, we had some struggles with some words and 
phrases, such as "ice lolly" ("popsicle" in USA).


And, of course, I welcome bug reports.  Let me know if you find any errors 
in the captions.  AND/OR, if anybody can ever find a GOOD copy of it!


--
Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com

[cctalk] Re: BBS memorabilia

[Will Cooke via cctalk]

In case you aren't aware of it, there was a bbs magazine.  Just ran across this:

https://archive.org/details/bbsmagazine

Will

You don't understand anything until you learn it more than one way.
Marvin Minsky

[cctalk] Re: BBS memorabilia

[Wayne S via cctalk]

The computer shoppers in the ‘80s and 90’s were full of BBS listings. Might 
look there.

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> On Aug 1, 2022, at 18:58, Ryan de Laplante via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 1, 2022, at 11:49 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 8/1/22 06:26, Ryan de Laplante via cctalk wrote:
>>> Over the years I have been collecting BBS related memorabilia such as Night 
>>> Owl shareware CDs, Boardwatch magazine, BBS magazine, books, manuals, 
>>> original disks, etc.  Does anyone have any BBS memorabilia they might be 
>>> willing to sell to me?   I’m particularly interested in PCBoard 
>>> box/disks/manuals.  I know the software can be downloaded from the 
>>> Internet.. I’m interested in the original box set.  I’m also interested in 
>>> CRS Online pamphlets, receipts, catalogues, etc.  
>>> 
>>> Has anyone ever seen promotional videos showing Prodigy, Compuserv, Delphi, 
>>> GENie, AOL?  I've collected disks, but the systems are long gone so 
>>> archived video is all we have to remember them by.  When I was young, I 
>>> remember seeing disks and pamphlets for these services in the box when 
>>> upgrading modems. They had serious brand recognition. By the time the 
>>> Internet was becoming available to the public, I remember being more 
>>> interested in getting a Compuserv account lol.  After getting our first 
>>> Internet account in 1994, I was confused because I didn’t know where the 
>>> “file areas”, “message areas” and “chat” were after being so used to BBS 
>>> menus. Eventually I learned about FTP, USENET, and IRC.  We even had a 
>>> “yellow pages” paper book where you could look up topic specific FTP, 
>>> USENET, and Gopher sites.  
>>> 
>> I have a couple of the more obscure BBS packages, such as Auntie--are
>> you interested in the disks for those?
>> 
>> —Chuck
> 
> Thank you Chuck.   You’re right, I’ve never heard of Auntie.   Thanks for 
> letting me know about it, but I’m mainly interested in the more mainstream 
> ones.  I had no idea how many BBS software packages existed until looking at 
> Jason Scott’s list:
> 
> http://software.bbsdocumentary.com/ 
> 
> Unbelievable!   The ones that I can remember being used locally were Remote 
> Access, RBBS, Renegade, Telegard, PCBoard, Maximus, Wildcat, Worldgroup, 
> Illusion, MajorBBS, maybe Mystic BBS.   I did all of my BBSing in the 1990s 
> using IBM PC / DOS / Windows / OS2 and ran a Maximus BBS.I never used 
> Commodore or Apple BBSes and wasn’t aware of any in my local calling area. 
> Actually I remember the librarian at school had a B Macintosh and showed me 
> an Apple BBS for schools (I think).  If I remember correctly it was called 
> Global Village.
> 
> The terminal software I used to use was QuickLink Fax III, Procomm Plus 2.x 
> for Windows, TELIX then later Hyper Terminal.  TELIX was my favourite because 
> it was full screen. SyncTerm is the modern day equivalent, but it’s not 
> the same experience on massive wide screen monitors. To get the proper 
> experience I think you need to be using a 15” or smaller curved CRT in a full 
> screen DOS window.  
> 
> 
> Ryan
> 
> 
> 

[cctalk] Re: BBS memorabilia

[Ryan de Laplante via cctalk]

> On Aug 1, 2022, at 11:49 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> On 8/1/22 06:26, Ryan de Laplante via cctalk wrote:
>> Over the years I have been collecting BBS related memorabilia such as Night 
>> Owl shareware CDs, Boardwatch magazine, BBS magazine, books, manuals, 
>> original disks, etc.  Does anyone have any BBS memorabilia they might be 
>> willing to sell to me?   I’m particularly interested in PCBoard 
>> box/disks/manuals.  I know the software can be downloaded from the 
>> Internet.. I’m interested in the original box set.  I’m also interested in 
>> CRS Online pamphlets, receipts, catalogues, etc.  
>> 
>> Has anyone ever seen promotional videos showing Prodigy, Compuserv, Delphi, 
>> GENie, AOL?  I've collected disks, but the systems are long gone so archived 
>> video is all we have to remember them by.  When I was young, I remember 
>> seeing disks and pamphlets for these services in the box when upgrading 
>> modems. They had serious brand recognition. By the time the Internet was 
>> becoming available to the public, I remember being more interested in 
>> getting a Compuserv account lol.  After getting our first Internet account 
>> in 1994, I was confused because I didn’t know where the “file areas”, 
>> “message areas” and “chat” were after being so used to BBS menus. Eventually 
>> I learned about FTP, USENET, and IRC.  We even had a “yellow pages” paper 
>> book where you could look up topic specific FTP, USENET, and Gopher sites.  
>> 
> I have a couple of the more obscure BBS packages, such as Auntie--are
> you interested in the disks for those?
> 
> —Chuck

Thank you Chuck.   You’re right, I’ve never heard of Auntie.   Thanks for 
letting me know about it, but I’m mainly interested in the more mainstream 
ones.  I had no idea how many BBS software packages existed until looking at 
Jason Scott’s list:

http://software.bbsdocumentary.com/ 

Unbelievable!   The ones that I can remember being used locally were Remote 
Access, RBBS, Renegade, Telegard, PCBoard, Maximus, Wildcat, Worldgroup, 
Illusion, MajorBBS, maybe Mystic BBS.   I did all of my BBSing in the 1990s 
using IBM PC / DOS / Windows / OS2 and ran a Maximus BBS.I never used 
Commodore or Apple BBSes and wasn’t aware of any in my local calling area. 
Actually I remember the librarian at school had a B Macintosh and showed me 
an Apple BBS for schools (I think).  If I remember correctly it was called 
Global Village.

The terminal software I used to use was QuickLink Fax III, Procomm Plus 2.x for 
Windows, TELIX then later Hyper Terminal.  TELIX was my favourite because it 
was full screen. SyncTerm is the modern day equivalent, but it’s not the 
same experience on massive wide screen monitors. To get the proper experience I 
think you need to be using a 15” or smaller curved CRT in a full screen DOS 
window.  


Ryan

[cctalk] Re: BBS memorabilia (fwd)

[Will Cooke via cctalk]

Apparently there was a BBS magazine. Just happened across this.

https://archive.org/details/bbsmagazine

Will

You don't understand anything until you learn it more than one way.
Marvin Minsky

[cctalk] Re: BBS memorabilia (fwd)

[Ryan de Laplante via cctalk]

> On Aug 1, 2022, at 8:21 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> The greatest ever video about pre-WWW internet was "Hyperland".
> a 1991 BBC documentary by Douglas Adams and Ted Nelson, and also starring Tom 
> Baker.
> A few years BEFORE WWW, it predicted the future of the internet.
> 
> https://archive.org/details/DouglasAdams-Hyperland
> 
> 
> If you want subtitles/captions, 5 years ago, I created an .SRT (camptions 
> file of it!
> 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4hCJm9ZEADCblVSVlBxdmZyREU/view?usp=drive_web
> (400MB video with subtitles burned in)
> .SRT file:
> http://www.xenosoft.com/HyperlandCAPS_En_US_0_77.srt
> 


Wow great find, thank you!

[cctalk] Re: BBS memorabilia (fwd)

[Fred Cisin via cctalk]

The greatest ever video about pre-WWW internet was "Hyperland".
a 1991 BBC documentary by Douglas Adams and Ted Nelson, and also starring Tom 
Baker.

A few years BEFORE WWW, it predicted the future of the internet.

https://archive.org/details/DouglasAdams-Hyperland


If you want subtitles/captions, 5 years ago, I created an .SRT (camptions file 
of it!


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4hCJm9ZEADCblVSVlBxdmZyREU/view?usp=drive_web
(400MB video with subtitles burned in)
.SRT file:
http://www.xenosoft.com/HyperlandCAPS_En_US_0_77.srt

[cctalk] Re: BBS memorabilia

[Mike Katz via cctalk]

You might want to try contacting Ward Christensen.  He is the creator of 
the original CBBS in Chicago along with Randy Suess.


Ward's linked in is:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/wardchristensen.

On 8/1/2022 2:15 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:

On Mon, 1 Aug 2022, Ryan de Laplante via cctalk wrote:
Has anyone ever seen promotional videos showing Prodigy, Compuserv, 
Delphi, GENie, AOL?  I've collected disks, but the systems are long 
gone so archived video is all we have to remember them by.  When I 
was young, I remember seeing disks and pamphlets for these services 
in the box when upgrading modems. They had serious brand recognition. 
By the time the Internet was becoming available to the public, I 
remember being more interested in getting a Compuserv account lol.  
After getting our first Internet account in 1994, I was confused 
because I didn’t know where the “file areas”, “message areas” and 
“chat” were after being so used to BBS menus. Eventually I learned 
about FTP, USENET, and IRC.  We even had a “yellow pages” paper book 
where you could look up topic specific FTP, USENET, and Gopher sites.


In 1995, there were two paperback books that purported to be "Internet 
Yellow Pages".  (New Riders and McGraw Hill)
No resemblance at all to the real TPC ("The Phone Company") Yellow 
Pages, which were the primary business advertising medium.
Instead, the books were compilations of amateurish blurbs by the 
authors about sites that they were excited about.


Yes, in the 1970s and 1980s, I had listings, and sometimes ads, for my 
businesses in the Yellow Pages.  In those days, people would believe 
that a business didn't exist if it wasn't listed in the Yellow Pages.  
("TPC" was the revelation about The Phone Company in James Coburn's 
"The President's Analyst")

[cctalk] Searching for software for Tektronix 4970 Cluster Controller

[Alexander Huemer via cctalk]

Hi

The Tektronix 4970 does something similar to an IBM 3174 or 3708.
It hooks up terminals to an IBM mainframe, in this case Tektronix 
graphics terminals, see [1], p.36ff.
Is anybody here in possession of the software that runs on it?

-Alex

[1] http://bitsavers.org/pdf/tektronix/tekniques/vol7/Tekniques_Vol_7_No_03.pdf

[cctalk] Re: BBS memorabilia

[Fred Cisin via cctalk]

On Mon, 1 Aug 2022, Ryan de Laplante via cctalk wrote:
Has anyone ever seen promotional videos showing Prodigy, Compuserv, 
Delphi, GENie, AOL?  I've collected disks, but the systems are long gone 
so archived video is all we have to remember them by.  When I was young, 
I remember seeing disks and pamphlets for these services in the box when 
upgrading modems. They had serious brand recognition. By the time the 
Internet was becoming available to the public, I remember being more 
interested in getting a Compuserv account lol.  After getting our first 
Internet account in 1994, I was confused because I didn’t know where 
the “file areas”, “message areas” and “chat” were after 
being so used to BBS menus. Eventually I learned about FTP, USENET, and 
IRC.  We even had a “yellow pages” paper book where you could look 
up topic specific FTP, USENET, and Gopher sites.


In 1995, there were two paperback books that purported to be "Internet 
Yellow Pages".  (New Riders and McGraw Hill)
No resemblance at all to the real TPC ("The Phone Company") Yellow Pages, 
which were the primary business advertising medium.
Instead, the books were compilations of amateurish blurbs by the authors 
about sites that they were excited about.


Yes, in the 1970s and 1980s, I had listings, and sometimes ads, for my 
businesses in the Yellow Pages.  In those days, people would believe that 
a business didn't exist if it wasn't listed in the Yellow Pages.  ("TPC" 
was the revelation about The Phone Company in James Coburn's "The 
President's Analyst")

[cctalk] Re: Connecting a physical terminal via LAN to Serial Port

[Paul Koning via cctalk]

> On Aug 1, 2022, at 11:38 AM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> For an extra $1 now you can get integrated WiFi (and Bluetooth but
>> there isn't any BT software support yet)  in the form of the $5 Pi
>> Pico W, so that's one route to talking to an IP network for IoT or
>> something like this.
>> 
>> A neat thing about the Pico is that you can do hard real-time
>> interface protocols using its PIO (Programmable I/O) channels and DMA
>> and still implement the whole thing in MicroPython.
>> 
> 
> You had me all enthusiastic there until I got to the word "MicroPython" :-(
> I'm going to stay with my patch panel!

MicroPython is an option.  There's also a C API.  I've used MicroPython for 
prototyping, and the C API for the finished project.  Best of both worlds.

paul

[cctalk] Re: BBS memorabilia

[Grant Taylor via cctalk]

On 8/1/22 9:00 AM, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote:
Just a heads up in case you aren't familiar, there is a project out 
there where someone was pulling data from Prodigy cache directories 
(from installed software that was used, on old computers.) They were 
working to re-create Prodigy.


I'm friends with the person that started that effort.  He's continued to 
make progress.  I'll have to find out where he's publishing status.


I know that there's a Discord channel for it.


Would be cool if someone re-created the others as well.


Agreed.

I've wanted to to emulate MCI Mail for questionable reasons.



--
Grant. . . .
unix || die

[cctalk] Re: Connecting a physical terminal via LAN to Serial Port

[Peter Coghlan via cctalk]

>
> For an extra $1 now you can get integrated WiFi (and Bluetooth but
> there isn't any BT software support yet)  in the form of the $5 Pi
> Pico W, so that's one route to talking to an IP network for IoT or
> something like this.
> 
> A neat thing about the Pico is that you can do hard real-time
> interface protocols using its PIO (Programmable I/O) channels and DMA
> and still implement the whole thing in MicroPython.
>

You had me all enthusiastic there until I got to the word "MicroPython" :-(
I'm going to stay with my patch panel!

Regards,
Peter Coghlan.

[cctalk] Re: BBS memorabilia

[Chuck Guzis via cctalk]

On 8/1/22 06:26, Ryan de Laplante via cctalk wrote:
> Over the years I have been collecting BBS related memorabilia such as Night 
> Owl shareware CDs, Boardwatch magazine, BBS magazine, books, manuals, 
> original disks, etc.  Does anyone have any BBS memorabilia they might be 
> willing to sell to me?   I’m particularly interested in PCBoard 
> box/disks/manuals.  I know the software can be downloaded from the Internet.. 
> I’m interested in the original box set.  I’m also interested in CRS Online 
> pamphlets, receipts, catalogues, etc.  
> 
> Has anyone ever seen promotional videos showing Prodigy, Compuserv, Delphi, 
> GENie, AOL?  I've collected disks, but the systems are long gone so archived 
> video is all we have to remember them by.  When I was young, I remember 
> seeing disks and pamphlets for these services in the box when upgrading 
> modems. They had serious brand recognition. By the time the Internet was 
> becoming available to the public, I remember being more interested in getting 
> a Compuserv account lol.  After getting our first Internet account in 1994, I 
> was confused because I didn’t know where the “file areas”, “message areas” 
> and “chat” were after being so used to BBS menus. Eventually I learned about 
> FTP, USENET, and IRC.  We even had a “yellow pages” paper book where you 
> could look up topic specific FTP, USENET, and Gopher sites.  
> 
I have a couple of the more obscure BBS packages, such as Auntie--are
you interested in the disks for those?

--Chuck

[cctalk] Re: BBS memorabilia

[Ethan O'Toole via cctalk]

Has anyone ever seen promotional videos showing Prodigy, Compuserv, 
Delphi, GENie, AOL?  I've collected disks, but the systems are long gone 
so archived video is all we have to remember them by.  When I was young, 
I remember seeing disks and pamphlets for these services in the box when 
upgrading modems. They had serious brand recognition. By the time the 
Internet was becoming available to the public, I remember being more 
interested in getting a Compuserv account lol.  After getting our first 
Internet account in 1994, I was confused because I didn’t know where the 
“file areas”, “message areas” and “chat” were after being so used to BBS 
menus. Eventually I learned about FTP, USENET, and IRC.  We even had a 
“yellow pages” paper book where you could look up topic specific FTP, 
USENET, and Gopher sites.


Just a heads up in case you aren't familiar, there is a project out there 
where someone was pulling data from Prodigy cache directories (from 
installed software that was used, on old computers.) They were working to 
re-create Prodigy.


Would be cool if someone re-created the others as well.

- Ethan O'Toole

[cctalk] Re: BBS memorabilia

[W2HX via cctalk]

>“yellow pages”

Do you recall what this was called? I remember (vaguely) something called the 
"Yanoff List" which was an attempt at a paper catalog of websites.

73 Eugene W2HX
Subscribe to my Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/w2hx-channel/videos



-Original Message-
From: Ryan de Laplante via cctalk  
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2022 9:26 AM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Cc: Ryan de Laplante 
Subject: [cctalk] BBS memorabilia

Over the years I have been collecting BBS related memorabilia such as Night Owl 
shareware CDs, Boardwatch magazine, BBS magazine, books, manuals, original 
disks, etc.  Does anyone have any BBS memorabilia they might be willing to sell 
to me?   I’m particularly interested in PCBoard box/disks/manuals.  I know the 
software can be downloaded from the Internet.. I’m interested in the original 
box set.  I’m also interested in CRS Online pamphlets, receipts, catalogues, 
etc.  

Has anyone ever seen promotional videos showing Prodigy, Compuserv, Delphi, 
GENie, AOL?  I've collected disks, but the systems are long gone so archived 
video is all we have to remember them by.  When I was young, I remember seeing 
disks and pamphlets for these services in the box when upgrading modems. They 
had serious brand recognition. By the time the Internet was becoming available 
to the public, I remember being more interested in getting a Compuserv account 
lol.  After getting our first Internet account in 1994, I was confused because 
I didn’t know where the “file areas”, “message areas” and “chat” were after 
being so used to BBS menus. Eventually I learned about FTP, USENET, and IRC.  
We even had a “yellow pages” paper book where you could look up topic specific 
FTP, USENET, and Gopher sites.  

[cctalk] BBS memorabilia

[Ryan de Laplante via cctalk]

Over the years I have been collecting BBS related memorabilia such as Night Owl 
shareware CDs, Boardwatch magazine, BBS magazine, books, manuals, original 
disks, etc.  Does anyone have any BBS memorabilia they might be willing to sell 
to me?   I’m particularly interested in PCBoard box/disks/manuals.  I know the 
software can be downloaded from the Internet.. I’m interested in the original 
box set.  I’m also interested in CRS Online pamphlets, receipts, catalogues, 
etc.  

Has anyone ever seen promotional videos showing Prodigy, Compuserv, Delphi, 
GENie, AOL?  I've collected disks, but the systems are long gone so archived 
video is all we have to remember them by.  When I was young, I remember seeing 
disks and pamphlets for these services in the box when upgrading modems. They 
had serious brand recognition. By the time the Internet was becoming available 
to the public, I remember being more interested in getting a Compuserv account 
lol.  After getting our first Internet account in 1994, I was confused because 
I didn’t know where the “file areas”, “message areas” and “chat” were after 
being so used to BBS menus. Eventually I learned about FTP, USENET, and IRC.  
We even had a “yellow pages” paper book where you could look up topic specific 
FTP, USENET, and Gopher sites.  

[cctalk] Cheap Lantronix Hardware

[Jonathan Chapman via cctalk]

All,

Per the LAN-attached serial thread, here's another cheap Lantronix device:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/123577635191

This is a LRS-2, which is basically a two-port LRS-1, one of their older models 
of serial bridges. The LRS-2 is nice not only for the two ports, but because it 
also has AUI and thinnet.

No PSU, but it's a typical 12V 1A center positive supply.

Thanks,
Jonathan

[cctalk] Re: Connecting a physical terminal via LAN to Serial Port

[Paul Koning via cctalk]

> On Jul 31, 2022, at 7:25 PM, Gavin Scott via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 2:29 PM Paul Koning via cctalk
>  wrote:
>> Yet another one is Raspberry Pico,
>> 
>> Neither of these come standard with Ethernet, though I've seen option cards. 
>>  In the case of Pico, it seems possible to do 10 Mb/s Ethernet in software 
>> using its PIO controller, though I haven't made the attempt.
> 
> For an extra $1 now you can get integrated WiFi (and Bluetooth but
> there isn't any BT software support yet)  in the form of the $5 Pi
> Pico W, so that's one route to talking to an IP network for IoT or
> something like this.
> 
> A neat thing about the Pico is that you can do hard real-time
> interface protocols using its PIO (Programmable I/O) channels and DMA
> and still implement the whole thing in MicroPython.

Yes, though the MicroPython PIO machinery is not well documented, I found 
myself having to read the source code to understand it.  But it's a great 
prototyping tool.

Thanks for the Pico W pointer, I'm going to look at that.

paul

[cctalk] Re: Connecting a physical terminal via LAN to Serial Port

[Christian Corti via cctalk]

On Sun, 31 Jul 2022, Fritz Mueller wrote:
+1 for the Digi Portserver for this application.  I recently grabbed one 
off eBay, because I have a number of vintage terminals here which I 
would like to ?crossbar? to a number of vintage computers with serial 
terminal support, and also provide both telnet out (vintage terminals 
telnet to modern systems) and in (LAN or WAN terminal emulator clients 
to serial ports on vintage systems).  The Portserver looks like it is 
going to do this job nicely.


Doesn't any terminal server do the job?
We have several different here. They all allow both terminal and host 
attachment to their ports, allow connections between serial ports, between 
a serial port and LAN (e.g. Telnet), in both directions (Telnet out, 
Telnet in), sometimes raw connections (without Telnet negotiation). Modern 
devices also implement SSH and Web Shells. The oldest device here is a 
Bridge CS/100 (still running). Then we have Emulex Performance 2500 and 
4000, Lantronix ETS-16, a Digi Portserver (I don't like Digi, the ports 
often hang and have non-standard pinouts), Lantronix SLC, Avocent ACS 
8000, ... All are capable of doing every mode of connection between serial 
ports/LAN.


Christian

[cctalk] Re: How to reproduce the DEC cabinets' grey colour paint?

[P Gebhardt via cctalk]

Hello list, 

>
>
>My attempt at the colors from several years ago.
>
>http://www.chdickman.com/pdp8/DECcolors/
>
>CHM = Color Harmony Manual


Many thanks to those (especially Charles and Vincent) who gave me pointers on 
how to reproduce the DEC grey colour of the DEC cabinets. I wasn't aware that 
the colour codes were expressed in old standards. I don't have the impression 
that the paint of cabinet side panels, for instance, faded over the years. 
Again, just an impression, when comparing the color of different cabinets. 
As soon as I have time, I will make a few tests and give feedback to the list 
how it went. 

Cheers, 
Pierre

[cctalk] Re: Connecting a physical terminal via LAN to Serial Port

[Christian Corti via cctalk]

On Sat, 30 Jul 2022, Ali wrote:

modern system using an IP:port schema. This works great except I don't get
to play with my shiny, new to me, authentic experience terminal device.


Why not? You attach the terminal to your terminal server, too, and connect 
from the terminal to one of the other serial ports (or telnet/ssh to a 
remote over LAN).


Christian