[cctalk] Re: Soviet tube/transistor/IC spec source
Sweet. This encyclopedic! Thanks a lot! Marc > On Oct 2, 2023, at 11:29 AM, Jonathan Chapman via cctalk > wrote: > > > > > Very cool, thanks for sharing! I didn't know such a tabulation existed! > > Thanks, > Jonathan > > --- Original Message --- >> On Monday, October 2nd, 2023 at 13:12, Shoppa, Tim via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> For those working with ex-Soviet equipment from the 60’s and 70’s here’s a >> remarkable resource: >> https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GOVPUB-C13-6925b02fb6dcaa88935be001eb551b4c/pdf/GOVPUB-C13-6925b02fb6dcaa88935be001eb551b4c.pdf >> >> I am astonished that I found it in this in the US National Bureau of >> Standards (today NIST) archives >> >> Tim N3QE
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I have to call it every time I misplace it in the house somewhere ;-) Never in the fridge yet, so far... Golden years, my derriere! On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 6:37 PM Rick Bensene via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Mike wrote: > ... > Gawd, I still remember those numbers, some 60 years later; so why can't I > remember my thirty-year old cell phone number... > > Because you rarely, if ever, call it. ;-) > > >
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On 2023-10-02 4:36 p.m., Rick Bensene via cctalk wrote: Mike wrote: ... Gawd, I still remember those numbers, some 60 years later; so why can't I remember my thirty-year old cell phone number... Because you rarely, if ever, call it. ;-) I never could figure out how to call myself, so I have no need to remember it. BTW the last time I have seen a phone book was about 25 years ago.
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On 2023-10-02 1:15 p.m., Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 5:18 AM Stefan Skoglund via cctalk wrote: The main problem with that lorry hurtling down the freeway is latency. I need to move 1 PB . how long will it take filling and packing enough IBM LTO-9 tapes to send 1 PB ? How long does it takes to fill 1 tape with 18 TB ? On Mon, 2 Oct 2023, KenUnix via cctalk wrote: Back it up to floppy diskettes. HaHa. Sorry I could not resist. Far too unstable and prone to damage and data corruption. Use dead-tree technology of cards or paper tape. If you use cards, put diagonal sharpie marks on the decks, to facilitate visual re-ordering after the crash on the freeway. -- Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com Also EAST / WEST , in case of data collision. :)
[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web
Mike wrote: ... Gawd, I still remember those numbers, some 60 years later; so why can't I remember my thirty-year old cell phone number... Because you rarely, if ever, call it. ;-)
[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web
I remember making those lines, but they were more for a crash across the room on the way from the 082 sorter to the 077 collator. Gawd, I still remember those numbers, some 60 years later; so why can't I remember my thirty-year old cell phone number... On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 3:15 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 5:18 AM Stefan Skoglund via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > >> The main problem with that lorry hurtling down the freeway is > latency. > >> > >> I need to move 1 PB . how long will it take filling and packing > >> enough IBM LTO-9 tapes to send 1 PB ? > >> > >> How long does it takes to fill 1 tape with 18 TB ? > > On Mon, 2 Oct 2023, KenUnix via cctalk wrote: > > Back it up to floppy diskettes. > > HaHa. Sorry I could not resist. > > Far too unstable and prone to damage and data corruption. > Use dead-tree technology of cards or paper tape. > If you use cards, put diagonal sharpie marks on the decks, to facilitate > visual re-ordering after the crash on the freeway. > > -- > Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com
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On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 5:18 AM Stefan Skoglund via cctalk wrote: The main problem with that lorry hurtling down the freeway is latency. I need to move 1 PB . how long will it take filling and packing enough IBM LTO-9 tapes to send 1 PB ? How long does it takes to fill 1 tape with 18 TB ? On Mon, 2 Oct 2023, KenUnix via cctalk wrote: Back it up to floppy diskettes. HaHa. Sorry I could not resist. Far too unstable and prone to damage and data corruption. Use dead-tree technology of cards or paper tape. If you use cards, put diagonal sharpie marks on the decks, to facilitate visual re-ordering after the crash on the freeway. -- Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com
[cctalk] Re: Soviet tube/transistor/IC spec source
Very cool, thanks for sharing! I didn't know such a tabulation existed! Thanks, Jonathan --- Original Message --- On Monday, October 2nd, 2023 at 13:12, Shoppa, Tim via cctalk wrote: > > > For those working with ex-Soviet equipment from the 60’s and 70’s here’s a > remarkable resource: > https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GOVPUB-C13-6925b02fb6dcaa88935be001eb551b4c/pdf/GOVPUB-C13-6925b02fb6dcaa88935be001eb551b4c.pdf > > I am astonished that I found it in this in the US National Bureau of > Standards (today NIST) archives > > Tim N3QE
[cctalk] Soviet tube/transistor/IC spec source
For those working with ex-Soviet equipment from the 60’s and 70’s here’s a remarkable resource: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GOVPUB-C13-6925b02fb6dcaa88935be001eb551b4c/pdf/GOVPUB-C13-6925b02fb6dcaa88935be001eb551b4c.pdf I am astonished that I found it in this in the US National Bureau of Standards (today NIST) archives Tim N3QE
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Stefan, Back it up to floppy diskettes. HaHa. Sorry I could not resist. -Ken On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 5:18 AM Stefan Skoglund via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > The main problem with that lorry hurtling down the freeway is > latency. > > I need to move 1 PB . how long will it take filling and packing > enough IBM LTO-9 tapes to send 1 PB ? > > How long does it takes to fill 1 tape with 18 TB ? > -- End of line JOB TERMINATED
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LTO-9 is probably not the best route for "Sneakernet" transfers. When Tanenbaum uttered that famous quote, tape was still relatively fast (at least sequentially), as well as it having unparalleled capacity. Nowadays, if you were to do large-but-fast data transfers, i'd chuck all the data on a large SAN and put that in the back of the van. Amazon AWS offer a similar product when moving data from one place to another. Of course, if you had enough LTO-9 drives to load/unload data all in parallel, the transfer time would probably be in the same ballpark as the SAN. But keeping the data synced would be a nightmare, and all those LTO-9 drives would be horrendously expensive. Yes, a van full of data hurtling down the highway will still have much more bandwidth than an internet connection, but nowadays what's in the back of the van is unlikely to be tape. Cheers, Josh Rice -- Original Message -- From: "Stefan Skoglund via cctalk" To: da...@kdbarto.org; "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Cc: "Stefan Skoglund" Sent: Monday, 2 Oct, 2023 At 10:08 Subject: [cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web The main problem with that lorry hurtling down the freeway is latency. I need to move 1 PB . how long will it take filling and packing enough IBM LTO-9 tapes to send 1 PB ? How long does it takes to fill 1 tape with 18 TB ?
[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web
The main problem with that lorry hurtling down the freeway is latency. I need to move 1 PB . how long will it take filling and packing enough IBM LTO-9 tapes to send 1 PB ? How long does it takes to fill 1 tape with 18 TB ?
