[cctalk] Re: Installing DEC C on RSTS/E

2023-11-07 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk



> On Nov 7, 2023, at 8:49 PM, Paul Koning  wrote:
> 
> Hi...  I'm seriously rusty on official RSTS installation procedures.  I'm 
> trying to install DEC C using the C_V1_2.tap file from the bitsavers 
> bits/DEC/pdp11/rsts directory.  It's actually a TPC file, in spite of what 
> the extension suggests.  Once I supply the correct format, SIMH recognizes it 
> and RSTS can see the tape contents.
> 
> Then I try @[0,1]install c81.  Point to the tape, answer the destination, and 
> then it asks me for the "library" tape and complains when I give it the C 
> tape again (labels don't match).
> 
> So what is it looking for?  Does anyone have the C installation procedure 
> handy?
> 
>   paul

Never mind... (a) C81 is COBOL (!!) not C.  And I found the C installation 
manual on STUPI.  Off & running now.

paul



[cctalk] Installing DEC C on RSTS/E

2023-11-07 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
Hi...  I'm seriously rusty on official RSTS installation procedures.  I'm 
trying to install DEC C using the C_V1_2.tap file from the bitsavers 
bits/DEC/pdp11/rsts directory.  It's actually a TPC file, in spite of what the 
extension suggests.  Once I supply the correct format, SIMH recognizes it and 
RSTS can see the tape contents.

Then I try @[0,1]install c81.  Point to the tape, answer the destination, and 
then it asks me for the "library" tape and complains when I give it the C tape 
again (labels don't match).

So what is it looking for?  Does anyone have the C installation procedure handy?

paul



[cctalk] Re: Announcement of VCFed warehouse closure & improvements

2023-11-07 Thread Thomas G via cctalk
If your item is tagged, it will be removed from the warehouse and stored in
a secure area on-campus until you are able to collect it.

I understand that the 2-3 weeks before the warehouse is closed will be
hectic for most people given the holidays, so I do not expect everyone to
come to collect, but I do implore everyone with possessions in the building
to at least notify Doug or me so that we can tag & isolate it. I have heard
of incidents in the past where people's personal property has been
misidentified as warehouse surplus and disposed of - I want to avoid this
more than anything else.

Once the warehouse is closed, if there are still uncollected items, we will
of course periodically nag people to come collect them.

Another important thing to note to everyone - if you claim to own an item
in the warehouse, and we later find that it either did not belong to you or
had been *donated* to VCF, there will be trouble - not just for you, but
for us. Please don't defraud museums!

-Thomas Gilinsky

On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 9:43 AM William Donzelli via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> How long do people with tagged items have beyond 1 January 2024 to
> claim their items?
>
> (clarifying, otherwise everyone will tag their items and the problem
> will not be solved!).
>
> --
> Will
>
> On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 9:17 AM Thomas G via cctalk
>  wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > After 18 years of acquiring artifacts, our warehouse is in need of
> > reorganization, as well as major renovation work - climate control, roof
> > repairs, etc. A total restructuring, inventorying, and refurbishment of
> the
> > warehouse is planned to commence soon - some steps such as the
> installation
> > of climate control have already been taken - however, planning this
> process
> > is made difficult by the fact that a number of our members have their own
> > personal belongings stored within, many without proper tagging or
> > documentation as such.
> >
> > On January 1st, 2024, the VCF warehouse at Infoage will be closed for
> > renovation and organization. During this time, no items will be permitted
> > in or out of the warehouse bar those permitted *directly* by the VCF
> > Warehouse manager - Thomas Gilinsky - during monthly repair workshops.
> >
> > As such, if you have any personal belongings stored within the warehouse,
> > and would like to retrieve it, or have it tagged and set aside for you to
> > collect later, please contact either me at thomas.gilin...@vcfed.org, or
> > Doug at douglas.crawf...@vcfed.org. Please provide *verifiable* *proof*
> > that the item you are describing is your possession.
> >
> > *ITEMS WHICH ARE NOT CLAIMED BY JANUARY 1ST, 2024 WILL BE ASSUMED TO BE
> THE
> > POSSESSIONS OF VCF.*
> > Donations to VCF will still be accepted during this time - we have other
> > areas to store them while the warehouse is reorganized.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Thomas Gilinsky
> > Vintage Computer Federation Warehouse Manager
>


[cctalk] Re: Announcement of VCFed warehouse closure & improvements

2023-11-07 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
How long do people with tagged items have beyond 1 January 2024 to
claim their items?

(clarifying, otherwise everyone will tag their items and the problem
will not be solved!).

--
Will

On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 9:17 AM Thomas G via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> After 18 years of acquiring artifacts, our warehouse is in need of
> reorganization, as well as major renovation work - climate control, roof
> repairs, etc. A total restructuring, inventorying, and refurbishment of the
> warehouse is planned to commence soon - some steps such as the installation
> of climate control have already been taken - however, planning this process
> is made difficult by the fact that a number of our members have their own
> personal belongings stored within, many without proper tagging or
> documentation as such.
>
> On January 1st, 2024, the VCF warehouse at Infoage will be closed for
> renovation and organization. During this time, no items will be permitted
> in or out of the warehouse bar those permitted *directly* by the VCF
> Warehouse manager - Thomas Gilinsky - during monthly repair workshops.
>
> As such, if you have any personal belongings stored within the warehouse,
> and would like to retrieve it, or have it tagged and set aside for you to
> collect later, please contact either me at thomas.gilin...@vcfed.org, or
> Doug at douglas.crawf...@vcfed.org. Please provide *verifiable* *proof*
> that the item you are describing is your possession.
>
> *ITEMS WHICH ARE NOT CLAIMED BY JANUARY 1ST, 2024 WILL BE ASSUMED TO BE THE
> POSSESSIONS OF VCF.*
> Donations to VCF will still be accepted during this time - we have other
> areas to store them while the warehouse is reorganized.
>
> Thanks,
> Thomas Gilinsky
> Vintage Computer Federation Warehouse Manager


[cctalk] Announcement of VCFed warehouse closure & improvements

2023-11-07 Thread Thomas G via cctalk
Hello,

After 18 years of acquiring artifacts, our warehouse is in need of
reorganization, as well as major renovation work - climate control, roof
repairs, etc. A total restructuring, inventorying, and refurbishment of the
warehouse is planned to commence soon - some steps such as the installation
of climate control have already been taken - however, planning this process
is made difficult by the fact that a number of our members have their own
personal belongings stored within, many without proper tagging or
documentation as such.

On January 1st, 2024, the VCF warehouse at Infoage will be closed for
renovation and organization. During this time, no items will be permitted
in or out of the warehouse bar those permitted *directly* by the VCF
Warehouse manager - Thomas Gilinsky - during monthly repair workshops.

As such, if you have any personal belongings stored within the warehouse,
and would like to retrieve it, or have it tagged and set aside for you to
collect later, please contact either me at thomas.gilin...@vcfed.org, or
Doug at douglas.crawf...@vcfed.org. Please provide *verifiable* *proof*
that the item you are describing is your possession.

*ITEMS WHICH ARE NOT CLAIMED BY JANUARY 1ST, 2024 WILL BE ASSUMED TO BE THE
POSSESSIONS OF VCF.*
Donations to VCF will still be accepted during this time - we have other
areas to store them while the warehouse is reorganized.

Thanks,
Thomas Gilinsky
Vintage Computer Federation Warehouse Manager


[cctalk] Re: PDP 11/34 or 11/04 front panel question

2023-11-07 Thread Doc Shipley via cctalk

On 11/6/23 19:33, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote:


Has anyone successfully glued back the plastic sheet to the aluminium
plate? If yes, what type of glue did you use and how exactly did you do the
operation?

Any suggestions, advice or tips?

Thanks and best regards
Tom Hunter



  3M markets several different types of double-sided adhesive sheets 
that can be positioned by applying the sheet to one part and then 
wetting the other part, usually with Windex.  Once you've got the 
position correct you squeegee the liquid and any bubbles out to the edges.


  I couldn't say whether the adhesives would damage your plastic, but 
given that there's no curing involved I doubt there'd be any at all.  If 
you're willing to endure some hold time 3M might even help you with that.



Doc


[cctalk] Re: PDP 11/34 or 11/04 front panel question

2023-11-07 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
Thanks for the suggestion Tom.

I have thought about it, but it would have to be a very thin type of tape.
Also very precise positioning of the plastic sheet onto the aluminium plate
is required as once the tape sticks to the other half it won't allow for
repositioning.

Some form of solvent free glue which does not attack the paint would be
better as you can reposition at least for a few seconds.


On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 3:33 PM Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Tom Hunter via cctalk  writes:
>
> > Any suggestions, advice or tips?
>
> Have you considered simply using double sided tape?
>
> -tih
> --
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>