RE: Women of Computing
The fact I don’t think it is necessary for a Lego set specifically endorsing the role of women in computing is unpleasant or mean spirited? Get a life Liam. I simply expressed my view. Are we really at a state on this list where when someone posts mentioning something, that anyone who expresses any alternative view is behaving unacceptably? Talk about snowflakes. -Original Message- From: cctalk On Behalf Of Liam Proven via cctalk Sent: 05 December 2021 15:17 To: Doc Shipley ; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Women of Computing On Sun, 5 Dec 2021 at 16:09, Doc Shipley via cctalk wrote: > > On 12/4/21 12:37, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: > > > > OK, Boomer. > > > There's really no call to be nasty about it. > > To those of us who are baby boomers, that usage is extremely offensive. I suspect that was the plan. Chris Long's email was nasty, unpleasant and a mean-spirited and unpleasant thing to say. The fact that they felt the need to say it on a public forum indicates either that they do not care what other people feel, or that they wanted to cause offence. When someone is so insensitive that they do not understand that their words can hurt others, then sometimes, an effective way to show to them that words can be hurtful and that they shouldn't say mean things, is to say something that is hurtful to them. This can illustrate to people who do not normally care about others' feelings that they do not like it when their own feelings are hurt. It is, sadly, a common attribute of a certain age group, especially of old white straight men, to give little regard to others' feelings like this. They typically consider a waste of time any kind of affirmative action that helps, boosts, or engages with people who are not old, white, straight and men. This is a bad way to behave. Nobody should act like that. It violates Wheaton's Law, which is a basic principle of how to be a civilised human being. "OK, Boomer" is just a succinct and clear way of saying "you are an unpleasant old man and we do not need to listen to your useless hurtful opinions." If that sounds like you, then my advice to you is not to complain about it, but to engage with it, and learn how not to be such a person, and then go and teach other such folk how to be better people. If it doesn't sound like you, then you should not be bothered by it. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven UK: (+44) 7939-087884 ~ Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420) 702-829-053
RE: Women of Computing
I accept that far less women than men work in computing. I believe however that this is large due to their own perception of the industry and their career choices. Almost all the women I know would describe working in it as "sad" or "geeky" and several of them are married men who do work in IT. -Original Message- From: cctalk On Behalf Of Toby Thain via cctalk Sent: 04 December 2021 22:24 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Women of Computing On 2021-12-04 2:55 p.m., Chris Long via cctalk wrote: > On the contrary I consider it implicit that they played an equal role - and > the need to make toys to indicate it is somewhat sad. > False. Women still do not play 'an equal role' in STEM today, and did not in the 20th C either. Have you ever reflected on why not? It is a systemic issue that has been well studied and documented, and most relevantly, described by women. > -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Brielle via > cctalk > Sent: 04 December 2021 19:53 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: Women of Computing > > Using the term ‘woke’ these days is a great way to render any point you are > trying to make moot. Great way to make people people not take you seriously. > > He may as well have just come out and said, “It triggers me and I don’t like > having to acknowledge that women exist in the field of computer history.” > > — Brie > >> On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:43 PM, Jason Howe via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> I'm curious what your definition of 'woke' is, because it seems grossly >> misapplied in this instance. >> >> --Jason >> >> >>> On 12/4/21 10:20, Chris Long via cctalk wrote: >>> Great.not. >>> >>> Why do we need woke Lego? > >
RE: Women of Computing
On the contrary I consider it implicit that they played an equal role - and the need to make toys to indicate it is somewhat sad. -Original Message- From: cctalk On Behalf Of Brielle via cctalk Sent: 04 December 2021 19:53 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Women of Computing Using the term ‘woke’ these days is a great way to render any point you are trying to make moot. Great way to make people people not take you seriously. He may as well have just come out and said, “It triggers me and I don’t like having to acknowledge that women exist in the field of computer history.” — Brie > On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:43 PM, Jason Howe via cctalk > wrote: > > I'm curious what your definition of 'woke' is, because it seems grossly > misapplied in this instance. > > --Jason > > >> On 12/4/21 10:20, Chris Long via cctalk wrote: >> Great.not. >> >> Why do we need woke Lego?
RE: Women of Computing
Great.not. Why do we need woke Lego? -Original Message- From: cctalk On Behalf Of Zane Healy via cctalk Sent: 03 December 2021 17:35 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Women of Computing I really want to see this set produced, especially for the “Ada Lovelace” and “Admiral Hopper” portions of the set. https://ideas.lego.com/blogs/a4ae09b6-0d4c-4307-9da8-3ee9f3d368d6/post/f39b7001-bf76-46ba-9d61-cb586f1c7a7d https://ideas.lego.com/projects/3bf5b46c-6c87-4a2d-a2e1-d31ed0e2739e Zane
RE: CGA card (Mitsubishi Electric) with 192K RAM?
You might find reading this thread useful: https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=57843 -Original Message- From: cctalk On Behalf Of Jules Richardson via cctalk Sent: 06 September 2020 21:28 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: CGA card (Mitsubishi Electric) with 192K RAM? Digging through old PCs, on a battery-removal spree... came across a Sperry 3070 XT-a-like (I wouldn't quite call it a clone, it's a bit goofy) which has a Mitsubishi Electric system board, RAM expansion, and video hardware. The video hardware is... odd. It's actually two full-length boards, joined with a large IDC cable along the top edge as well as via the ISA bus. The only "complex" IC is a 6845 - other than that it's masses of TTL. Output is via a DE9, and pinouts seem consistent with CGA (15.7KHz on pin 8, 60Hz on pin 9, 3/4/5 at TTL levels and 1/2 ground). There's also an RCA jack on the backplate, and that 6845 IC... it all seems very CGA-like, except that total video memory is 192KB. CGA was normally 16KB, I believe. Hercules and EGA 64KB, although I think toward the end of EGA's existence there was a 192KB option. Physical outputs aren't consistent with EGA's two bits per pixel, though. Does this ring any bells with anyone? I don't know why it needs such a large amount of RAM if it's stuck with CGA capabilities. One board is branded WECD10 and the other WECD11, but there's no "model" or anything. cheers Jules
RE: Spam
I actually thought the spam most was better than some of the usual postings on here! -Original Message- From: cctalk On Behalf Of Peter Coghlan via cctalk Sent: 01 September 2020 09:01 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Spam Paul Koning wrote: > > On Aug 31, 2020, at 6:55 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: > > > > Anybody else on cctech/cctalk receive a blatant spam today from an > > outfit called "SparkPost" with "OptIn Live" in the subject? > > > > Regards, > > Peter Coghlan. > > Nope. > > Keep in mind that criminals often forge source addresses. So while it > may say it came from cctalk, it doesn't mean it actually did. Looking > at the full headers will often tell you, if you care to go to the trouble. > The spam I got did not come from cctalk. I didn't say it came from cctalk, I said it came from an outfit called "SparkPost". I asked if anyone else on cctalk received the same spam because I am attempting to figure out how SparkPost obtained the email address that I use only for cctalk. >From the responses received, it appears that other cctalk list members did not receive the same spam. This reduces the likelyhood that someone has subscribed to cctalk specifically to harvest the email addresses of the list members, a possibility which was advanced on this list a while back. > > For example, I get spam every few weeks claiming to be from one > specific person on the list here, but it never actually is from that address. > Same here except that it is in regard of the freecycle mailing list rather than cctalk. Regards, Peter Coghlan. > paul >
RE: Email delivery protocols / methods.
This is tedious. -Original Message- From: cctalk On Behalf Of Dennis Boone via cctalk Sent: 05 July 2019 22:29 To: Grant Taylor ; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Email delivery protocols / methods. > · FidoNet (FTN) As long as we're being silly, this isn't really one protocol. There are a number of different ones, which can probably mostly be characterized as thin wrappers (FTS-0001, Yoohoo(/2u2), etc) around common file transfer protocols (zmodem, xmodem, and others). De
