Re: Tiny PDP-11/73 system for sale

[Ed C. via cctalk]

I'll take it if still available.

Ed

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 6:26 PM Stephen Pereira via cctech <
cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I am in the process of thinning down my vintage computer holdings, to
> relieve some of the burden I will leave to my heirs (hopefully not too
> soon!).
>
> I have a working tiny PDP-11/73 system available for sale.  I would much
> prefer not to have to break it down and pack it for shipping, but I will if
> the buyer agrees to pay for the packing and shipping costs.
>
> - - - - -
>
> Tiny PDP-11/73 System:
>
> H9281-BA backplane and card cage
> KDJ11-A CPU
> DLV11-J 4 port SIO
> MSV11-LK 256KB/128KW memory
> Emulex UC07 SCSI interface
>
> Power-on Reset board from here:
> http://www.heeltoe.com/index.php?n=Pcbs.Qbus-por <
> http://www.heeltoe.com/index.php?n=Pcbs.Qbus-por>
>
> SCSI-to-SD hard drive emulator with 4 drives available, RT-11 installed
>
> MeanWell RT-125B power supply
>
> 4.5 inch AC fan
>
> qty 4 GlitchWorks serial cables
>
> Spare PDP-11/23 CPU saved as a backup:
> KDF11-AB CPU
>
> RT-11 Pocket Guide
>
> RT-11 Mini-Reference Manual
>
> - - - - -
>
> I am asking $800.00 for the lot.  It cost me about that, probably more to
> acquire it piece-by-piece and assemble it into a working system.
>
> smp
> - - -
> Stephen Pereira
> Bedford, NH  03110
> KB1SXE
>
>
>

Re: PDP-11/70 Boards

[Ed C. via cctalk]

Very helpful! Thank you

On Tue, Nov 30, 2021, 19:06 Noel Chiappa  wrote:

> > From: Ed Cross
>
> > I'm currently restoring a PDP-11/70 system and need the following
> > boards to complete the CPU: FP11-C
>
> From your mention of the FP11-C, I gather your -11/70 has a KB11-C (later)
> CPU, not the KB11-B CPU of the earlier PDP-11/70's (prior to 1976 - the
> difference between the two was whether they took the optional FP11-B or
> FP11-C
> FPP).
>
> Not that it makes a big difference in your case; the 4 cache cards are the
> same in both.
>
> There used to be a seller on eBait (on the mid-East Coast - Baltimore,
> IIRC)
> who was selling -11/70 CPU cards (I bought a whole spare set from him) but
> alas he seems to have gone away (or sold them all; a quick search, both on
> eBait, and in my email, didn't turm him up; I can institute a deeper search
> if need be).
>
> From the blog of someone who got a KB11-A working, you'll really need KM11
> cards; dunno if Guy Steele still has those clones he was selling.
>
>
> There are definitely some versions of Unix which will run fine on -11/70's
> without the FP11 (e.g. V6). The system binary is different for the
> with/without versions, though: in the assembler code which saves the state
> of
> one process before switching to another, there is code like:
>
> stfps   (r1)+
>
> which will probably get an illegal instruction trap in kernel mode on a
> machine with no FP11, and is therefore conditionally assembled (depending
> on
> if the particular machine the system is being built for has an FP11).
> Perhaps
> the later BSD versions look for the FP11 on startup, and adjust their
> behaviour appropriately, but I'm not familiar with them.
>
> V6 as distributed contains system binary for an -11/40, which will run on
> _any_ -11 UNIX will run on, and can be used to build appropriate system
> binary.
>
>
> (Diversion: I've never found out whether the KB11-B and KB11-C of the
> -11/70
> used/could use the same backplane or not. By examining the prints for the
> boards of the FP11-B and FP11-C, and seeing on which pins they exchanged
> signals, and what signals they exchanged with the rest of the CPU, and on
> which pins, it should be possible to work it out. Ditto for the M8133 ROM
> and
> ROM Control of the KB11-B, replaced with the M8123 in the KB11-C.)
>
> (Interesting factoid: the M8123 is the only card shared between any variant
> of the -11/45 and -11/70: both the KB11-C and KB11-D use it. Of course, I
> think we're still missing a wirelist for the -11/70 backplane, of any
> variant; and the ECO history. There appears to have been at least one
> poorly
> documented upgrade; see here:
>
>   http://gunkies.org/wiki/MK11_memory_system#CSR_Access
>
> for more.)
>
> Noel
>

PDP-11/70 Boards

[Ed C. via cctalk]

Dear list, I'm currently restoring a PDP-11/70 system and need the
following boards to complete the CPU:

FP11-C slots:
M8127
M8128
M8129

Cache slots:
M8142
M8143
M8144
M8145

Any help finding these is appreciated. Thanks.

Re: Contacting Jörg Hoppe (Unibone)

[Ed C. via cctalk]

I bought from him last week, all was good and fast.

 j_ho...@t-online.de

On Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 09:27 Rob Jarratt via cctalk 
wrote:

> Just tried emailing him and got a non-delivery error. Does anyone have an
> email address for him please?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Rob
>
>

Re: 11/70 system drawing set

[Ed C. via cctalk]

This is great, thx

On Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 02:31 Al Kossow via cctalk 
wrote:

> I just uploaded a drawing set that includes KB11-B and C information to
> http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp11/1170
>

Re: Vax/pdp on ebay

[Ed C. via cctalk]

Not me, but please ping me if you do and would like to part one of the
11/73. Regards.

On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 8:25 AM Wayne S via cctalk 
wrote:

> Is anyone from this list bidding on this.
> If so i’ll back out. Just don’t want it to be “recycled “ and i have room
> for it.
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-DEC-BA23-Lot-Micro-PDP-11-73-VAXstation-3200-x2-VT220-x2-Extras-Docs/224368924502?hash=item343d6e1756:g:zp8AAOSwvWNgO9qe
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>

Re: Shipping via USPS Los Angeles is STALLED

[Ed C. via cctalk]

I was in a similar situation for 2 months with a couple of packages,
April-June, in the end I received everything ok.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 3:41 PM Bill Degnan via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I have a vintage computer sitting in the LA USPS since 9/17, with no
> further updates.  I have read in the local papers there that the entire
> post office has ground to a halt.  What's going on there?  I have never
> heard of anything like this.  I assume my package will survive but think of
> the zoo there if they've been stacking packages for TWO WEEKS.  I'd
> strongly suggest not attempting to ship anything out of LA for the time
> being.  WOW.
>
> I know people complain about the post office, I am not complaining, just
> stating the facts.  Normally the USPS is reliable.  They must really have
> overall problems in southern CA due to the fire and related management
> issues.
>
> BIll
>

Re: domains available (FTGH)

[Ed C. via cctalk]

Interested in pdp11.org

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020, 18:10 jwest--- via cctalk 
wrote:

> Over the years I've snagged a few domains related to classic computing with
> the best intentions of doing something with them. I have not, so I will be
> letting the following expire:
>
>
>
> decvax.org
>
> dgeclipse.org
>
> dgnova.org
>
> hp1000.org
>
> hp2000.org
>
> pdp11.org
>
> rt-11.org
>
>
>
> You can of course wait to get them until they expire via your registrar of
> choice. If you want them sooner, let me know and after a week or so I'll
> subjectively decide who to approve a transfer to their registrar.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> J
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Brittle plastic

[Ed C. via cctalk]

Same issue with many Atari's ST/E, the plastic becomes super fragile.

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 9:11 PM Rico Pajarola via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I have a friend who is a Materials Science Technologist and specializes in
> injection molded plastics. So... basically the same thing that's in
> computer cases (even though he doesn't deal with computer cases). I grilled
> him at length on this topic, and he insisted that the brittleness with age
> (and UV light) is expected and irreversible. Basically, the plastic
> softeners are off-gassing, and there's no way to put them back in.
>
> I'm still hoping for a happier second opinion, though I'm not holding my
> breath.
>
> In my experience, brittleness varies wildly and goes from "no big deal" to
> "crumbles if you blow at it", even for otherwise identical machines. I
> recently acquired a Japanese Ultra 1 clone, and the back was smashed in
> shipping, and crumbled into a thousand pieces not even large enough to glue
> back together. Luckily the front only had a single crack that could be
> glued back together.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 9:38 AM Tom Hunter via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Today I was working on a very nice 1995 vintage SPARCstation LX with
> CDROM
> > and QIC-150 tape drive (3 lunchbox type units). I was trying to install a
> > newer version of NetBSD on it than was already installed. The stack of 3
> > units was stored in a museum grade glass display cabinet. Sadly all 3
> units
> > have a small degree of yellowing but more importantly the plastic cases
> > have become very brittle and bits just break off with minimal mechanical
> > strain.
> >
> > Is there any process to reverse the brittleness which could be used to
> > preserve the cases?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Tom Hunter
> >
>

Re: Living Computer Museum

[Ed C. via cctalk]

https://www.livingcomputers.org/Closure.aspx



On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 12:02 AM Chris Zach via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Hm. Well, if I have to drive out there and pick up AI, the letter is
> there. Just let me know.
>
> C
>
> On 5/27/2020 5:52 PM, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk wrote:
> > I just received an email from the Living Computer Museum that they were
> > suspending operations.  It wasn't clear from the email what that
> > actually means.
> >
> > TTFN - Guy
> >
>

Re: The information age

[Ed C. via cctalk]

Add to that: History is rewritten by power.

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 4:23 AM Fred Cisin via cctalk 
wrote:

> On Tue, 26 Nov 2019, Jim Manley via cctalk wrote:
> > " ... like to write their own version"
> > It's a good thing no one else ever wrote their own version of history ...
> > oh, wait, _everyone_ does that!  They once called it "To the victor goes
> > the spoils (of victory)."
>
> "History is written by the victors" is often attributed to Winston
> Churchill, but its origin is really unkown.
>
>
> > It's "lawsuit", not "law suite", BTW.  Slingers of code and CAD layouts
> > have to get every single character and trace absolutely correct.
>
> Sometimes it becomes a suite of suits filed by the suits.
>

Re: I apparently have Spacewar for Unix?

[Ed C. via cctalk]

Sun

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 8:57 PM Tomasz Rola via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 09:51:02AM -0500, Daniel Seagraves via cctalk
> wrote:
> > While dumping lispm tapes, I found one with a label saying "Read it
> > into DRAL" (may be "DRAC"?) "and sent a message to cap's bboard
> > saying where it can be found. -Bob”. There was another paper label
> > that had fallen off. What I think is the label in question was later
> > found in the bottom of the box, a strip of masking tape saying
> > “SPACEWAR FOR VAX (Unix?)”. The contents are a 136KB tar archive
> > containing source to a program called “orbit”, all files are dated
> > August 22nd, 1983.
> >
>
> I unpacked it. The beginning of orbit.man says:
>
> 
> .SH NAME
> orbit \- Spacewar on the Sun
> .SH SYNOPSIS
> .B
> orbit 
> .PP
> .B
> orbit  ... [-O ]
> .SH DESCRIPTION
> The classic game of interplanetary death and destruction.
> Mostly written in C; an assembler package does fast single-precision
> floating-point for orbital calculations and collision detection.
> .PP
> Most of the game's basic parameters are changeable;
> parameter sets can be saved and reloaded from option files.
> If the file .orbitrc exists in your
> 
>
> and the fp.s file looks to me like a Motorola assembler, but I may be
> wrong. In main.c there are references to something like graphics
> routines making use of framebuffer. The structure of filesystem
> mentioned in Makefile hints towards Unix-like system.
>
> I would say, after very quick looking, it is rather for SunOS, not for
> anything DEC-made.
>
> I wonder if others may come to different conclusions?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Tomasz Rola
>
> --
> ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature.  **
> ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home**
> ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened...  **
> ** **
> ** Tomasz Rola  mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com **
>

Re: VCF Midwest 14 Talks and Talkers

[Ed C. via cctalk]

Great page design, congrats.

On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 9:04 PM Jason T via cctalk 
wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 12:38 PM Liam Proven via cctalk
>  wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 19:28, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Especially the
> > >
> > > "Notice: Undefined index: currentpage in /var/www/
> vcfmw.org/footer.html on line 34"
> > >
> > > at the bottom. I felt right at home ;)
> >
> > I liked that too! Reminded me of:
> >
> > http://www.coboloncogs.org/INDEX.HTM
> >
> > (c) 
>
> I took a lot of, uh, "inspiration" from that page :)
>
> The PHP error on our page is unfortunately real (goes away on reload
> if you're not blocking cookies).  I'm still laying out tables and have
> a shirt to design and.marking "fixed in next release!"
>
> j
>

Re: Photos from VCF West 2019

[Ed C. via cctalk]

Thanks for sharing!

On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 7:14 PM Brian K. Perry via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Thought I would share some photos I took of VCF West this past weekend in
> Mountain View, CA.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/gF6Sd34SxQMzJEZPA
>
> Brian
>

Re: Kaur Collection Inventory

[Ed C. via cctalk]

This is very nice from you Adam, hats off. Thanks for putting this together.

On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 7:17 AM Adam Thornton via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Last Saturday I went out to the location where the collection mentioned by
> Kristina Kaur resides, to take photos, create an inventory to the best of
> my abilities, and help her solicit proposals for the various items.
>
> I’m going to lead off with one of my last sentences in this email: PLEASE
> DO NOT WRITE KRISTINA, OR ME, DIRECTLY WITH YOUR OFFERS.  Use the contact
> form in the Google Drive folder (see below) I’m pointing to and send your
> proposal to la...@rubinbernsteinlaw.com  la...@rubinbernsteinlaw.com> .  I have no power over the disposition of
> any of this—I am just the chronicler—and Kristina wants to route all
> proposals for acquiring these things through the family's lawyer.
>
> The basic background is this: all of this stuff belongs to a man who has
> run a bulk-mailing business for many years, and who wrote a bunch of his
> own software for PDP-11 machines to do that bulk mailing.  He has continued
> to use the PDP-11s until, apparently, quite recently.
>
> He also, unfortunately, has recently had a stroke, and although he is
> expected to recover, he is not going to be able to continue running the
> business, and particularly not from these machines.  So his daughter,
> Kristina, has decided to make the collection available to people who will
> do right by it (preferably in a public museum), rather than just send it to
> the scrapper, which is awfully nice of her.
>
> I want to express my gratitude to Kristina for allowing me to go out there
> and root through the collection, and to Ruthann, who provided good company
> during the digging and invaluable service during the search.
>
> There are three locations for all these items.  Computing equipment is
> either in a climate-controlled garage, and apparently has been running
> until quite recently, or it is in a warehouse, which I do not believe to be
> climate-controlled but is walled and roofed and kept dark, which are all
> good things in Tucson.  All the manuals were on a bookshelf in the home
> office, and were kept climate-controlled and relatively dust-free.  The
> manuals are in excellent shape considering their age, with no environmental
> damage, although some of them are clearly worn from use.
>
> Let me get a couple things out of the way first: it was rumored there was
> an 11/40 here.  I didn’t see one, but I saw a mystery PDP-11 in the garage
> that I believe to be an 11/70.  As near as I can tell, there are two PDP-11
> systems in the garage (the mystery 70 and an 11/45), which I believe to be
> in running or near-to-it shape.
>
> There’s also a *lot* of stuff out in the warehouse, much of it apparently
> bought from the University of Arizona at auction over the years, largely
> shrinkwrapped (sometimes to pallets, sometimes not) or stored in plastic
> bags.  My guess would be that the things in the garage were in general
> never used after their acquisition, although some may well have been
> migrated out there after their useful lifespan was over. This is a GUESS.
>
> I have no idea of the condition of any of it, or what was cannibalized as
> spares for other things; I can say that, in general, it’s been stored out
> of the weather and doesn’t seem to be water damaged or (for Tucson anyway)
> very dusty.
>
> I (and the Kaur family, and everyone) make NO GUARANTEE AT ALL of the
> condition of any of this.  Everything here is sold WHERE IT IS and AS IT IS
> and it may or may not work or be restorable.  It is YOUR responsibility to
> pick it up, and if it can’t reasonably be restored, tough luck.  We don’t
> know, and the one man in the world who DID know is not in any condition at
> the moment to tell us.
>
> As you might expect from a bulk-mailing business, this collection is
> super-heavy on printers and various paper-handling devices, as well as tape
> drives.  These are things I know almost nothing about: I have mostly
> collected 8-bit micros and videogame systems, and only recently have
> started acquiring and restoring DEC equipment.
>
> There may well be pictures of things Kristina doesn’t want to include as
> part of this lot—all the more modern printers and paper-handling stuff is
> destined for people in the printing-and-mailing world in Tucson.  But
> there’s an awful lot of stuff here where “uh, it looks like a lineprinter
> to me, and maybe you connect it to a PDP-11?” or “that’s probably a disk
> drive?” or “it’s a controller for _something_.”
>
> So among the things I’m asking you to do is to please help identify what I
> took pictures of.  I’ll call out the things I find particularly interesting
> and baffling.
>
> I have already offered first pick of the manuals to Al Kossow and
> bitsavers.org , the Living Computer Museum and
> Labs, and Jason Scott at the Internet Archives, since that is likelier to
> get 

Re: Pleas ID this IBM system....

[Ed C. via cctalk]

Anybody knows what happened with the German IBM 360? Was it ever picked up?
Will photos or details about the lot ever surface? Regards.

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 10:47 PM Lawrence Wilkinson via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On 16/04/2019 22:22, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote:
> > Clearly the pile was not purchased for scrap, so it will be
> > interesting to see where it ends up. We may never know, with the
> > secretive nature of big iron collectors..
>
> I know one of the group that bought it, but I am not sure if they are on
> the list.
>
> I believe the intention is to attempt to restore the /20 + peripherals.
> Not sure about plans for the 370. It is a huge task, but they are keen.
>
> So rest assured it won't be scrapped, and it won't disappear into a
> collection.
>
> Please don't ask me who it is. They are welcome to announce themselves
> if they wish.
>
> And it's not classic, but here's an IBM z/Series converted into a beer
> fridge:
> https://www.flickr.com/gp/ljw/NrV130
> https://www.flickr.com/gp/ljw/35y797
>
> --
> Lawrence Wilkinson lawre...@ljw.me.uk
> Ph +41(0)79 926 1036 http://www.ljw.me.uk
>
>
>

Re: a timer for the PC - screen tme for the kids

[Ed C. via cctalk]

I happen to be the CEO of Qustodio, we have a free version of the service
that works on Windows computers and there's also Mac and mobile devices
support, let me know if I can help anyhow.

Regards.

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 12:02 PM Jim Manley via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Hi Randy,
>
> Here’s how to do it in Windows 10 (and probably 8):
>
> https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/set-time-limits-windows-10
>
>
> For Windows 7:
>
>
> https://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/6900/windows-7-how-to-set-time-limits-for-a-child/
>
>
> All the Best,
> Jim
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 00:17 Randy Dawson via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Before I develop this, I thought it may already exist, and the classiccmp
> > mail list might be the place to ask.
> >
> > What we have, is the screen time problem with the kids.  If we are not
> > there hounding and policing them, they will be on for hours.
> >
> > All the medical community says, we need to limit their screen time, as it
> > contributes to their AD disorder and schoolwork, homework failures.
> >
> > My idea was initially do this in hardware, with a timer, and a solid
> state
> > relay to gate the AC to the PC.
> >
> > On further thought, I should be able to do this in software, with a timer
> > that lets the PC run for an hour, and then shuts the PC down until the
> next
> > 24 hour cycle.
> > (Installs itself on windows startup)
> >
> > Has anybody seen this, before I re-invent the wheel?
> >
> > Randy
> >
>

Re: desoldering (was Re: VAX 9440)

[Ed C. via cctalk]

I have the combo unit including solder. I do not have any other experience
with any high-end ware but I can say that this unit does all I need and
does it well.

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 7:17 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On 11/13/18 7:38 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote:
>
> > Instead, I use two pencil-type irons, one in each hand, working under
> > a stereo microscope. The tips are much better, and manipulating each
> > tip independently provides great control of what's going on. Only
> > drawback is that if you want to use a fancy, expensive iron, now you
> > get to buy two of them. If you're tempted by a soldering station with
> > two or more outputs, make sure that it can drive both simultaneously.
> > There are dual-output stations that have two outputs but can only run
> > one at a time, as well as ones which can drive two irons at once.
>
> After seeing the video on the ZD-985 some years ago on Dave's EEVBlog:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft50m8UU5WQ
>
> I've been wondering if it's a worthwhile tool.  Does anyone have one of
> these things?
>
> --Chuck
>
>

Re: Did anyone see Vintage Tech Hunters on Discovery Canada yet?

[Ed C. via cctalk]

Replace some with all and you have it. TV programs like these are fully
scripted months in advance.

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 10:54 PM Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> And they walked tight by his VT05 :)
>
> Entertainng show! Even though I suspect some of those "finds" are
> planted.
>
> /P
>
> On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 10:18:48AM -0500, alan--- via cctalk wrote:
> >
> > And of course, Jason T. would be in the very first episode :)
> >
> > On 2018-11-08 05:23, Santo Nucifora via cctalk wrote:
> > >I am sure this is not authorized in any way but here's a link to
> > >the first
> > >episode on Youtube.
> > >
> > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iroAInAMfYo
> > >
> > >On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 5:19 AM Adrian Stoness via cctalk <
> > >cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 12:09 AM corey cohen via cctalk <
> > >>cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Can’t see it yet in the states, but I was wondering if anyone here
> saw it
> > >>> and what you though.  I was involved with the show.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Cheers,
> > >>> Corey
> > >>>
> > >>> corey cohen
> > >>> uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ
> > >>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
>

Re: IBM Xstation 140?

[Ed C. via cctalk]

RISC @ 33MHZ

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 10:51 PM Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> If I recall correctly the Xstation 120 (the first of them) used an 8086
> (might have been an 80186).  The big issue was that you couldn’t do
> anything with it because what was in ROM/FLASH was only smart enough to be
> able to TFTP the rest of the microcode (not terribly useful if you don’t
> have the image it wants to TFTP).
>
> I think the 140 fixed that (and is somewhat telling from all of the Intel
> flash parts on the board).  But I don’t know what CPU it’s using.  The IBM
> metal can is probably the graphics controller.
>
> TTFN - Guy
>
>
> > On Nov 1, 2018, at 2:36 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk 
> wrote:
> >
> > Wondering if this is an IBM Xstation 140 with token ring
> >
> > Wonder what processor it uses..
> >
> > https://www.ebay.com/itm/273538296972
> >
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