Re: Palm usage was Re: Modems and external dialers.

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

I was curious about the opinion and reply :-)


Sent from my Apple /c

>> 
>> Cameron, how did you like Plua and what did you do with it?
>> 
> 
> Oops, sorry for sending this out to the list

Re: DLC Company "Cowculator"

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Searching quickly on google I see a reference to the one at the CHM in mountain 
view. 

Also found this https://trademark.trademarkia.com/cowculator-72119112.html 
which acknowledges the company. Not sure if it would link to additional info. 
Interestingly there are newer ones also seem to be measuring milk quality but 
I'm not sure if you input the variables or if the computer finds them. 


Sent from my Apple /c

> On May 6, 2019, at 6:34 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> I took a better picture of the panel for this yesterday
> http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dlcCompany/cowculator
> 
> Other than a couple of want-ads from the early 60's I've
> not been able to turn up any more information on this.
> 
> I'm assuming you optimize by adjusting the parameters to
> zero on the meter.
> 
> Other than what is on the panel, I've not found anything
> on the DLC Company in Linthicum, Md.
> 

Re: VMS versions

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Not sure if it's that easy but if the file on CD-ROM had a consistent name, a 
specific google or ftp search engine may actually be useful to find other 
copies out there. 

Sent from my Apple /c

>> There used to be an article about OpenVMS release history, naturally it's 
>> been wiped.
>> 
>> Luckily, archive.org has a copy: 
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20170825003059/http://h41379.www4.hpe.com/openvms/os/openvms-release-history.txt
>> 

Re: Plane of core memory

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

I'll be curious to hear what you end up getting. I've also meant to acquire one 
over the years just for historical education and display sake. One thing to 
keep in mind, but I'm sure you're aware is the physical size. Often they're 
quite small. However I think eBay sellers recent years have been better about 
letting you know that expectation. 

I've also seen the large amount of Russian planes. Not too bad although like 
you said, I'm not sure you'd find out what system they came out of but you 
could always ask the seller prior to bidding.

I find those and silicon wafers in a similar light of something pretty to look 
at. As well as an educational glimpse into explaining some history. 

Good luck!


Sent from my Apple /c

> On Apr 17, 2019, at 11:30 PM, Andrew Luke Nesbit via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> I have been wanting to acquire a plane of magnetic core memory as a
> piece of computing history.  My partner actually thinks they look very
> beautiful and says we should frame it, if we ever find a plane.

Re: "arx-149" computer. .. what Is?

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Is there a specific reference you have for this?

Sent from my Apple /c

> On Apr 14, 2019, at 2:16 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> "arx-149"   computer. .. what Is?thanks ed#

Re: Yes there is a PDP 10 front panel and Kenbak on Ebay

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Are these yours Bill?  Interesting to see the Kenbak and story behind buying 
most of the Nova Scotia museum. 

Lots of interesting other things seller has as well. Prices vary like a lot of 
eBay sellers but some neat stuff the collector has. 

Color me jealous. ;-)


Sent from my Apple /c

> On Apr 3, 2019, at 1:51 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes there is a PDP 10 front panel and  Kenbak on Ebay
> 
> and no, a "best offer" of $250 for the front panel will not be accepted.
> :-)
> 
> Bill

Re: HELP needed on a vocabulary problem ;-)

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Sent from my Apple /c
> On Mar 18, 2019, at 7:34 AM, Phil Blundell via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 2019-03-18 at 13:03 +0100, GerardCJAT via cctalk wrote:
>> The TECHNICAL problem : I am repairing a not so old electric typewriter.
>> I need to replace what I call : a flexible printed circuit ( strip / ribbon 
>> /  what's the "correct" word ??? ) *** AND *** the associated connector
> 
> "FFC"/"FPC" and "FFC/FPC connector" possibly.  Are these the sort of things 
> you mean?
> 
> https://uk.farnell.com/molex/15015-0423/cable-assy-23core-101-6mm-brown/dp/2096098?st=fpc
> 
> https://uk.farnell.com/te-connectivity/1-1734248-9/fpc-connector-receptacle-19-position/dp/1846686?st=fpc%20connector

Maybe if there's a repair manual for the typewriter it would have the part/term 
listed there?  I'm not sure without picture and Phil sounds like he has a good 
technical term but most flexible cables I've just heard called ribbon cables. 
But I'm probably lumping all flat cables into the same category as a floppy 
drive/ide type cable.

Re: Amiga, AtariST, soft repos [was: Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers]

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

> 
> tl;dr: Is there a software repository for AtariST comparable to Aminet?
> 
> 
I don't follow it much, so I can't really say for sure what systems or software 
are in the archive. But there was an effort for collecting "all" games and 
software for many systems called TOSEC. Unfortunately, it's not an authorized 
collection so copyright folks may frown on obtaining those files.

Re: Houston stash sorting this coming Saturday

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Was this John that had a computer museum in Houston? I hadn't really caught 
what the back story was on this collection and collector. 

Albeit, i know of a lot of Johns who are collectors. Myself included. 

Sent from my Apple /c

> On Jan 24, 2019, at 5:02 PM, Electronics Plus via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> I did not bring the stuff home. Mostly I brought documentation and software.
> Call John Adler he owns the stuff in the sheds.

Re: Osborne-1 with prototype-based motherboard

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Maybe too easy but have you asked the seller if they know anything about it's 
origins? I'd also guess maybe an employee or it could just be one of the 6 
motherboard types as someone else commented. Pretty awesome though with the low 
serial. Thanks also for the blog. I had no idea about the different designs and 
cases. 

I'm curious which one I have now. 

Sent from my Apple /c

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Brad H via cctalk  wrote:
> 
> Am just posting this as I am hoping someone out there knows someone who was
> involved with Osborne back in the day to find out more this Osborne 1
> motherboard I found in a low serial O1 I picked up for $100.
> 
> 
> 
> I reached out to Lee Felsenstein on it and he suggested it was related to
> the boards produced for the 10 prototypes Osborne built, or a derivative of
> them.  He couldn't say for sure how it ended up in mine.  But I was hoping
> if anyone knows any Osborne experts that might help me on this - it is not
> currently working and I'm hoping to find schematics, etc to get it going
> again.  Obviously with the radical differences in layout, the schematics for
> the production motherboard isn't terribly helpful.
> 
> 
> 
> I've posted a blog about it here with a picture of the board for those
> curious:  http://bradhodge.ca/blog/?p=1186
> 
> 
> 
> Brad
> 

Re: More old stuff incoming

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

>> SGI desktops made for home use,
> 
> Whoah whoah whoah, what?
> 
> SGI made home computers?!

I don't know that I saw a reply to this but I'm guessing the reference is the 
SGI Indy? And maybe indigo could count as well for smaller systems that could 
fit on a desk instead of desk-side models. 

Re: DG Nova 4 for pickup on Lon Gisland

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

That's pretty awesome in a desk unit. Always wanted to get a trs or altair desk 
unit. Hadn't realized there were many more. 

Unfortunately distance and wife would be prohibitive for my collection. :-(


Sent from my Apple /c

> On Dec 10, 2018, at 6:10 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> Cribbed from VCF:
> 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Data-General-NOVA4-Nova-4-nova-desktop-computer-minicomputer-8-floppy-vintage/332940164292?hash=item4d84c7bcc4:g:2skAAOSwqIhcDrmI:rk:39:razz:f:0
> 
> Chuck

Re: IBM junk

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Oops. *Roswell not Atlanta. 


Sent from my Apple /c

> On Jun 28, 2018, at 7:15 AM, Sam O'nella  wrote:
> 
> It's Lonnie in Atlanta. Spoken to him a few times in email and he/they are a 
> serious investor in computer history. They also helped vintage computer 
> festival southeast get a location originally. 
> 
> It's a good home for that gear. 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Apple /c
> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2018, at 2:55 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 27 Jun 2018, Donald wrote:
>>> The whole collection went to
>>> Computer Museum of America in Roswell, GA
>>> https://computermuseumofamerica.org/
>> 
>> Is that the museum that formerly was in San Diego?
>> 
>> Christian

Re: IBM junk

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

It's Lonnie in Atlanta. Spoken to him a few times in email and he/they are a 
serious investor in computer history. They also helped vintage computer 
festival southeast get a location originally. 

It's a good home for that gear. 


Sent from my Apple /c

> On Jun 28, 2018, at 2:55 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 27 Jun 2018, Donald wrote:
>> The whole collection went to
>> Computer Museum of America in Roswell, GA
>> https://computermuseumofamerica.org/
> 
> Is that the museum that formerly was in San Diego?
> 
> Christian

Re: Sparc Laptops

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Yes the IBMs are worth tracking down.  I always keep my eye out but rarely
see them come up for sale but it'd be fun to have an RS/6000 that doesn't
cause a hernia to move. My only similar one is a tadpole but I don't recall
the version.  I used a universal power supply to get it to run for a little
while but then I'm pretty sure the backlight on the lcd popped and went
out. So I'm also a member of the almost but not quite functioning owners
club. :-)  Would gladly get rid of some Ultras if I could upgrade to a
portable.

Re: Amusing IBM test system model

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Wow. Pretty awesome museum gear. It'll be interesting to see how the bids go 
and if a museum bids like several in the past.
 Original message From: cctalk via cctalk 
 Date: 4/22/18  11:21 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: 
cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Amusing IBM test system model 
I also have a few others listed:

ADINTS
https://www.ebay.com/itm/132588526929

IBM 1401/707
https://www.ebay.com/itm/132581434367

IBM System/3
https://www.ebay.com/itm/132593475814

Yet to be listed is a 650 and 2 suitcases of System/360 Model 70 models used in 
the 1964 Worlds Fair.

Re: WeirdStuff going out of business

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

The post on vcf wasn't on 4/1 but you're saying the picture was from it? Have 
they done that before? (It does sound sorta familiar).
I hope its the joke. Us remote folks can't handle this! ;-)
 Original message From: alan--- via cctalk 
 Date: 4/6/18  10:20 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Al Kossow 
, "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" 
 Subject: Re: WeirdStuff going out of business 
On 2018-04-05 20:21, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> Last Day is this Sunday
> 
> http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?63045-WeirdStuff-is-going-out-of-buisiness-(
> 
> since I can't attach a picture here

Apparently no one get's the April Fools joke... sad really.

Re: WeirdStuff going out of business

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Wow. That's unfortunate. Only been in town twice but was definitely part of my 
scheduled geekdom tour.
So any local stores left for that type of thing? Any word on why the closure?
I've always seen a lot of folks in the store (well my 2 times) but i don't know 
how many purchased.
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Re: Remnants of local Commodore Users' Group being offered for free

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Whoever or whichever group does get it, i hope if they have any files or 
interesting info the rest of the clubs can help store.
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Re: Sneak peak: this year's VCF PNW/East/West shirt design

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

For extra credit was it drawn in any particular vintage software or
computer?

Malware history was: Spectre & Meltdown

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Enjoying the virus/malware history as its always interesting to see what people 
thought. Tricks, boredom, etc cause interesting results.
For punch cards i thought someone was going to mention punching all the holes 
and jamming the reader. I'm not sure if thats real but heard some folks had to 
check their opcodes or it could potentially lead to that or flimsy card 
integrity if not. 
Did anyone here ever see animal or other shared system malware? Animal was just 
a nondestructive trojan (other than potential to take up disk space) but 
interesting that someone would run a program that appeared unexpected in their 
home folder.
 Original message 
(I'm unaware of any punch-card attacks, but trojans were possible when 
people used prior subroutines)

Re: R: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

You're one of the first people I've heard quote that. Do you know where that is 
said? Years ago several friends and myself all picked up 64mb usb thumb drives 
so we could have multiple backups of a game and few other projects we were 
coding.  Maybe it was an extended period of time (we ended up switching to 
compatible removable drive bays) but 2 out of 3 of us lost all the data on our 
thumb drives around the same time. 
I haven't heard may others share the concern but i wouldn't use ssd as a tech 
unless im forced to for that reason.
 Original message From: Mazzini Alessandro via cctalk 
 Date: 1/5/18  7:15 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
I'm  not sure I would use SSD for long term "secure" storage, unless maybe
using enterprise level ones.
Consumer level SSD are, by specifics, guaranteed to retain data for 6 months
if unpowered... any more time means being lucky. Would suck to save, store,
and after some years find (over snipped)

Re: Lisa Source Code

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!msg/lisalist/aIo6cNu54xM/_Ck_CsmSBgAJ
They may still be getting approvals, but here is the announcement implying both 
OS and some applications may be included.
 Original message From: Christian Corti via cctalk 
 Date: 12/28/17  3:23 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: "General 
Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"  Subject: Re: 
Lisa Source Code 
What is a "Lisa Source Code" ?
The schematics? The source code for the Lisa firmware and/or Lisa OS?

Christian

Re: Lisa Source Code

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Saw the announcement via slashdot also the other day.  Definitely a kudos to 
the CHM team!
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Types of corrosion on computers

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

I've seen rust and dust, but there's an old vaxstation II at Goodwill
Computers in Austin right now (very cheap, anyone welcome to buy it and get
it off my mind) but as most things, I checked out the back and see some
circles of white corrosion on the back where the cards? are contacting the
case.

I don't really have room or time but I don't own anything that uses QBUS or
is almost related to some of the neat iron some of you all collect (I've
mostly collected way too many home computer history items).

Anyway, what is that type of white corrosion on metal?  Would one probably
assume this means any bus would be corroded and this wouldn't be a computer
for the faint of heart hobbyist? I've only seen that maybe from batteries
but it's in an unusual place and pattern (I think).

Re: Slightly Meta: Travel tips for people traveling internationally with vintage equipment?

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

I'm curious about this idea as well. Feels less fun to take a favorite kim-1 on 
field trips lately.
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Re: Computing Pioneer Dies

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Can ya blame him? Back in his day 2s were *real* 2s.. bigger and tougher. You 
try and add 'em up, assuming they'd stay still long enough and stop wrastlin' 
with ya and who knows how big they'd be.
 Original message From: Evan Koblentz via cctalk 

My own father does this and it drives me crazy. I'll say, "2+2=4" and 
he'll say, "I believe it's 5" ... DAD IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU 
FRIGGING BELIEVE, 2 PLUS 2 IS STILL 4!!

Re: looking at buying a pocket PC / PDA

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Lol that's indeed the one. I had no idea it was same era though. I think i was 
looking at one years ago as an option to document my collection and serial 
numbers. I realized despite the cool factor, i would be putting my faith in 
that system with no back-up and less ability to export elsewhere so never 
followed through with it.
 Original message From: Fred Cisin via cctalk 
<cctalk@classiccmp.org> Date: 11/3/17  10:52 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: "General 
Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk@classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: 
looking at buying a pocket PC / PDA 
On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, Sam O'nella via cctalk wrote:
> I could have sworn there was a newer black colored m100 type system that 
> someone was selling a bunch of on ebay. Iirc they were calling it the 
> tandy killer and i thougbt it was a "slate".

Convergent Technologies "Workslate".

sexy machine
Far from a killer.
Unless you are one who defines spreadsheet as "killing" word processor.


Take a look at the Epson Geneva PX-8.  CP/M.

Re: looking at buying a pocket PC / PDA

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

I could have sworn there was a newer black colored m100 type system that 
someone was selling a bunch of on ebay. Iirc they were calling it the tandy 
killer and i thougbt it was a "slate".
I did forget about the m100 pc expansion though (price is always higher than 
desirable). But best of both worlds. Super portable m100 and plug it in at desk 
ams have a monitor, memory expansion and dual disk drive. Always wanted to find 
one for the right price.
The poqet is also a great mention for compatability in a palmtop.  I think the 
bad part is all these great choices also have higher prices for their 
usability.  You sort of "need" the expansions on the poqet.  
Back to the hp 200lx standard (small plug) but sorta easy to make a serial 
cable and use as a termial also.
That's why we only find the lesser units and these all hover over 100.:-(
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Re: looking at buying a pocket PC / PDA

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

It could also be from the popular article about George RR Martin using a 
vintage dos computer with wordstar 4.0 for his writing rig. Similar to some 
other authors I've heard look for a machine that doesn't offer distractions.
My own mis-remembrance though for some reason I thought it was a trs-80 model 
4p but I'm not finding specifics in the quick google search.
 Original message From: Evan Koblentz via cctalk 
 Date: 10/30/17  2:47 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: "General 
Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"  Subject: Re: 
looking at buying a pocket PC / PDA 
> Radio Shack M100 ... still used by some writers for the very reason you 
> mention.

That is not true.

It was an urban legend in the 1990s that a handful of old farts in the 
entirely sportswriting industry (thousands of writers overall) may 
"still" be using their Model 100s. I'm sure if you looked hard enough 
some of them still used typewriters too.

In 2017? It's ridiculous to even speculate.

Re: looking at buying a pocket PC / PDA

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

I'll add a few more problem specs than answers but the down side of a lot of 
devices is lack of backlit screen so working in a dark space can be a problem, 
and I'd be quite interested to see real battery life reviews. 
 So many devices that can work only last a few hours on battery. Could be age 
issues but that's what I've accepted as a reason not to collect too many 
handheld devices. Proprietary batteries and most are dead.
Do you want keyboard or is palm like writing acceptable? On the bright side, 
despite battery age palms are easy to find and relatively cheap. Most are at 
goodwill because of obsolescence not because theyre broken.  I find them all 
the time for $10.
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Re: PDP8.org

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

The wayback machine sorta of details the end of the site. Not sure how much 
data is archived in archive.org.
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Re: Is it really that quiet out there?

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Yes, but the irony if us replying on-list isn't lost.
 Original message From: Robert via cctalk 
 Date: 10/24/17  11:40 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: "General 
Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"  Subject: Re: 
Is it really that quiet out there? 
 The last one that I received was October 20th.

Robert

Re: I REALLY need a scrounger in Richmond, VA

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Just a friendly bump. Did anyone post this on vcfed or any mac collector 
forums? 
 Original message From: Electronics Plus via cctalk 
 Date: 9/22/17  1:01 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: "'General 
Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'"  Subject: I 
REALLY need a scrounger in Richmond, VA 
Dude just pulled 2 truckloads of early Apple and 386/486 computers and
keyboards out of storage and is scrapping them. I REALLY need somebody there
to sort the good from the trash. Can anybody help? He gave me one week to
come up with someone to scrounge, then it all goes for scrap.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

sa...@elecplus.com

AOL IM elcpls

 



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Re: HP 2108A key

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Should be easy but my mobile google fu is failing. Didn't Jay and a few others 
know if a vintage computer key database/site somewhere? Would that possibly 
have or benefit from getting afterwards?
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Vcfmw/ECCC any chance of streaming/telecommuting?

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Figured I'd wait until it's too late ;-) is anyone thinking of streaming talks 
or for brownie points a Commodore mud chat, etc? 8-bit audio stream?
I see some previous talks have been uploaded to YouTube 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu3UDdi0llxiSaFKq-p5gYQ so thanks for that! 

Re: Floppy rescue: media separation from hub

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

An uninteresting answer but is this proprietary data or something another 
collector may have and could provide? 
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Re: determing date on TI 99/4 computers.

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/1344/Texas-Instruments-TI-99-4A/ has 
interesting knowledge of the serial for dating. 
I don't know if it was my newb brain/false memory but i thought I saw someone 
post a ti-99/2 prototype before (vcfed search can probably prove me right or 
wrong). But the models really were already stated as the 99/4 being the first 
and noticeable from chicklet keyboard and orange?/red keys on the bottom 
corners.
Then i think they had an expansion system that my memory gets confused with the 
trs-80. 
I didn't realize it was a 16-bit system though. That's intriguing and worth 
some more reading to see what it did vs the competition.
 Original message From: John Wilson via cctalk 
 Date: 9/6/17  1:57 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: william degnan 
via cctech  Subject: Re: determing date on TI 99/4 
computers. 
On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 02:07:22PM -0400, william degnan via cctech wrote:
>I'd double check that.   I have found, at least in my experience, that the
>beige are more plentiful than what you'd expect if they only made them for
>a few months.  I bet they were made for the last year or more of the run.

Is it possible to retrofit the beige keyboard?  I remember Radio Shack was
dumping surplus beige TI-99/4A keyboards super cheap for a while there, so
I was wondering if maybe people could've used them as repair parts?

Also, was there ever a TI-99, TI-99/2, TI-99/3 etc.?

The Bill Cosby TV ads were kind of embarrassing in retrospect ... but they
were funny at the time.  He didn't seem like much of a computer nerd.

John Wilson
D Bit

Re: Odd Ebay auction showed up today...

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Since it wasn't said already, i think (if its the same user) they've posted 
similar auctions several times in the past also (over several years). You can 
see some of us discuss it in vcfed.org forums.
No affiliation or bad blood myself. I know i bought my working Columbia Data 
Products luggable from them years back. But i know they have premium/eBay 
prices generally.
We also occasionally see the reminder that the user is a member of the 
community and on some forums so despite opinion its a bit ashame to see bad 
mouthing of any collector. Albeit actual sales, and comments from first hand 
deals are certainly legitimate information.
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Viva Amiga documentary on Hulu

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

I haven't watched the entire thing yet but Hulu correctly identified it as
an item of interest for myself.  http://amigafilm.com/  It may be available
other platforms (I did notice some copies seem to be on youtube although
not sure if that's legitimate).

Either way seems like a fun watch if you're an Amiga/Commodore fan.
Definitely won't be an unbiased production ;-) but saw some local mailing
list celebrities in the interviews.

- John

Re: Fw: oh, this is great news!

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Morbid curiosity but decoded its spam for some movie url.
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Re: recent ebay lot of assorted ICs - did somebody on the list win this?

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

I don't know the etiquette but if you had the auction saved you might be able 
to ask the seller a question and see if theyd be opposed to putting you in 
contact with rhe buyer. 
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Re: IBM 5110 with 5114 & 5103 on Pittsburgh Craigslist

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Theyre always out of my reach but is there a way to upgrade or convert 
5100/5110s to IPL or basic or are you stuck with what you get?
 Original message From: Robert via cctalk 
Not mine and way too far for me to go, otherwise I'd be all over it.
Looks like the BASIC only version of the Model 2.

https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/sys/d/vintage-ibm-5110-with/6234205659.html

Re: IBM 5280

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

What are the 4 games?
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Re: The first CD

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

I dont think I've heard if the history of the technology behind cds. Was it 
SRI? I only thought the first cdrom software at least was that encyclopedia on 
CD?
This being 14" just sounds like a disk platter. 
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Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Im guessing its pottstown, PA 
https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/sys/d/ibm-system/6157580080.html but thats 
a guess. Only aware of it from an incorrext location tag making it show up near 
Austin also.
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Re: Diskette size (was: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Extremely interesting Fred. I hadn't heard of half of those experimental disk 
sizes.  Are those stories from your experience or from that article? (Yes I'll 
rtfm shortly).
The only odd one i have is a backup cartridge? that resembles around a 3.5" but 
is in fact closer to the mythical 12" floppy. Actually here's the picture i 
brought 8", 5.25" and a CED to show size comparison. 
http://www.main.org/ctacs/history/2015/20151001/20151001ctacs3744.html
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Re: Xerox stores

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Out of my own ignorance, did Xerox have models geared towards the home? Or was 
this a store front for business/Altos types?
null

Re: Thousandth data book uploaded to bitsavers

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Celebrate with a cake with 8 candles (1000) 
Thats great. I guess i should scour the archives and maybe im holding on to 
original books that arent as important anymore.
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Re: File recovery help needed (Alabama)

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

The assumptions pouring in could use a quick follow up. Date joke aside, did 
they already try reading them? My guess would be yes hence the recovery request 
possibly needing flux or more advanced recovery.
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RE: DEC archives

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Ok revising my overly simple thought of vounteers showing up.  What about a 
class on document archival at VCFw (or other) and then an archive party? 
Not trying to push a non-issue, but if that gets past any legal requirements id 
still absolutely help out any of the local museums if in their area for travel. 
Im surely not the only one. Plus it would be valid for those of us with 
documents at home to scan for the hobby to get them acceptable quality to 
upload, etc.
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Re: DEC archives

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

I never did query about that. I've only been twice in 10 years but if i was 
there I'd certainly volunteer time if its something i either know or can 
quickly learn to do.
VCF West Al nighter party :-)

 Original message From: Mark Linimon via cctalk 

Well that's particularly what I was getting to: if some of us (e.g. myself)
were in Silicon Valley for a few days, could we be put to work, or would
having us underfoot just slow things down?

mcl

Re: FOLKS LOOK! - In Case you have some Radio Shack Vintage interest also... - -

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

It's an interesting set of emotions to see another giant pass.  Interesting 
prices lol (the irony of some seeming high). Of course thanks for the post. I 
think everyone went hush since it would mostly attract attention to anything of 
bidding interest. Seems like some good stuff for museums though with the 
company photos, etc.
I honestly didn't realize they had bought Grid or computer city.
 Original message From: Ed via cctalk
 
FOLKS  LOOK! -  In Case  you have  some Radio Shack Vintage interest  
also... - - - ICONIC RADIOSHACK MEMORABILIA AUCTION 
Thru  - July 3 - with online bidding- 
 
https://ubidestates.hibid.com/catalog/103245/radioshack-auction--1/

Re: Corona Data Systems PC available

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

I have a similar but think mine says cordata which i guess yours is an early 
model? Is there no model number or serial or was that edited out? Just curious. 
 If you post on vcfed.org some younger collectors will find the historical 
significance interesting of a potential unauthorized IBM compatible. I find 
those companies that were sued out of existence or folded easily an interesting 
time in an aggressive young home computer market. 
 Original message From: Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk 
 Date: 5/27/17  10:38 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: 
cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Corona Data Systems PC available 
More spring cleaning. This time it's a Corona Data Systems PC.
Kinda like an old Compaq unit. Has floppy and hard disk, but does not 
boot up.

Pickup in Santa Cruz, CA

http://anifur.com/clist/corona1.JPG

http://anifur.com/clist/corona2.JPG

http://anifur.com/clist/corona3.JPG

Re: Micral N (1974) for sale

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

That's a starting bid at 20,000 euros?
 Original message From: Stéphane Tsacas via cctalk 
 Date: 5/30/17  5:56 PM  (GMT-06:00)Subject: Micral N 
(1974) for sale 
If it happens you're in Tours (in France, https://goo.gl/maps/BXNZ4YJixYq)
June 11 2017, a Micral N from 1974 will be auctioned.
More info -- in French -- on the auction house website
https://www.rouillac.com/fr/news-1252-le_micral_n_premier_micro_ordinateur

Starting price : 20 K€.

Good luck ;-)

-- 
stéphane tsacas

Re: Identify Panel

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Any story on where it came from that might help?
 Original message From: william degnan via cctech 
 Date: 5/12/17  12:59 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: cctech 
 Subject: Identify Panel 
From what hardware is this panel ?

http://www.vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Temple/Manual-Automatic-Switch-Control.jpg
 CDC something?

Thanks

Bill

Re: Key for Intel MDS-800

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Is this a thing? There's an archive of vintage physical computer keys? This 
would be very cool. Heck one could potentially even 3d print a key for short 
term usage.
 Original message From: Dennis Boone via cctalk 
 Date: 5/10/17  4:13 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: "General 
Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"  Subject: Re: 
Key for Intel MDS-800
If someone has one, let's get it added to the ccmp keys list: blank
type, cut info, etc.

De

Re: test, please ignore

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

(Waits for Jay's next email "This has been a test of the new auto banning 
system. Thank you.")
 Original message From: Alexandre Souza via cctalk 
 Date: 4/27/17  1:58 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: "General 
Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" , Jay West 
 Subject: Re: test, please ignore 
This is a test, designed to provoke an emotional response

Enviado do meu Tele-Movel

On Apr 26, 2017 9:39 PM, "Jay West via cctalk" 
wrote:

> Don't need a response, please ignore.
>
>
>
> J
>
>

Re: Bitsavers size

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Lol that quote. I guess i can google it but was this from one of his books? 
"Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling 
down the highway."–Andrew Tanenbaum, 1981
 Original message From: Fred Cisin via cctalk 
 Date: 4/22/17  12:13 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: "General 
Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"  Subject: Re: 
Bitsavers size 
https://what-if.xkcd.com/31/

internet V Fedex

Unfortunately, their 2040 number is based on an assumption that bandwidth 
will continue to increase, but that media capacity won't.

Re: bitsavers rsync server down

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Tape backup lto would do it easily, at this point probably incremental backups 
to an external drive would be a cheap alternative too.


On 4/20/2017 12:15 PM, Jay West wrote:
> Ben wrote...
> 
> Just how big is the server?
> 
> Bitsavers that is publicly visible is around 275gb 

How does one back up a system like that?
(That could be the shortage of of oiled paper tape).
Ben.

Re: Apple 1, Commodore 65, Enigma Machine, Inventor of C++

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

 Original message From: Christian Corti via cctalk 
 Date: 3/29/17  3:29 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: Evan Koblentz 

>On Tue, 28 Mar 2017, Evan Koblentz wrote:
>> "What do an Apple 1, Commodore 65, >>Enigma Machine, and the inventor of C++ 
>> all have in common?"

>They're just overestimated pieces of junk ;-) >(and C++, not its inventor)
>[duck...]

Said to most of us about our hobby and collections?
We're supposed to be challenging that battle, mate. Not feeding it ;-)

RE: Trip to CHM - Hotel/Restaurant Advice

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

I thought the Vintage Computer festival west link might have recommended hotels 
but I couldn't find anything for you.
I did a similar trip but needed to be quite a few hours south for my actual 
destination. I didn't find a very cheap hotel either, and the under $100 one I 
did find near long Beach was quite underwhelming. The type my wife wouldn't 
have let us stay at.
What I did find more useful was a super small rental car for $98 that did give 
me much more freedom to get around a few sites (and Weird Stuff).  It was 
highly recommended not to sleep in the car though so best luck.
I explored airbnb but it seems to mirror closely to hotel prices and a 
surprisingly large amount want a 2 day stay.
But CHM is definitely a fun trip. I have a quite large collection for home 
computing so I wasn't sure how long I'd stay occupied but between the demos and 
tours and just perusing I definitely could have enjoyed more than the afternoon 
I spent.
Best recommendations were ubering or rental car then get a hotel in your price 
range but don't worry as much about location. Or get one near the train.

Re: Extracting files off “unknown” 8 inch disks. Any thoughts…

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

For the record, I and I'm sure lots of others look forward to this blog of 
experience.
 Original message From: Terry Stewart via cctalk 
 
One other question regarding using this MS-DOS 486 to run an 8 inch floppu

Re: Any faithful VT100 Emulators?

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

This had kept the prices on that model a bit higher. The serial port while 
smaller is easy to hack a cable for most connections you need. I guess it's not 
that way for the other models? I hear it very often for the lx-200 pretty 
exclusively.
 Original message From: Robert Feldman via cctalk 
 Date: 3/23/17  11:20 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: 
cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Any faithful VT100 Emulators? 
Warren Toomey wrote:
> are there any _good_ VT100 terminal emulators


Another alternative is to get a used HP LX 200 palmtop computer. Its DataComm 
program has a good VT100 mode.


Bob

Re: FTGH Large amount of DEC/Misc Classic computer hardware

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

 Original message From: jim stephens via cctalk 

On 3/17/2017 9:01 PM, Peter C. Wallace via cctalk wrote:
>>also significant pressure from SO to
>> "get rid of that junk"
>So far noone that matters has said anything >that dumb to me.

It happens when your XYL gets the rank of Spousal Officer.

Re: Pair of Twiggys

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

This statement is hurting my brain. I was never an Apple (company) user or fan 
but personally felt the Apple product line was hacker friendly before the Apple 
II c threatened to void your warranty if opened, then the Mac seemed to follow 
similar unfriendly EULAS.
But then again I wouldn't have guess GUI would win the UI war either when it 
was so great to type exactly what you needed with minimal system resources. 
Admittedly my opinions seem to only satisfy myself ;-)
You prefer Apple and expansions or Mac II?
 Original message From: TeoZ via cctalk  
Date: 3/14/17  5:49 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: geneb , "General 
Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"  Subject: Re: 
Pair of Twiggys 
Jobs had to get fired for Apple to recall the expansion capabilities of the 
Apple II days and start making the Mac II series.

Re: Pair of Twiggys

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

 Original message From: Glen Slick via 
cctalk wrote:
>>
>> www.ebay.com/itm/122383386508
>>
>> still a few hours to go, hovering at $20K
>
>
>And the answer is $32,100.52 (plus $20.95 >shipping)

Ugh.. they always get ya on the shipping.

RE: AIX documentation

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

As others said, we're not lawyers so ymmv but I would take it as the same as 
selling a used cd, dvd, software or books. The usual law is we can't copy it. 
So scanning it, if that company or company's intellectual property is still in 
existence they might care. But selling originals is usually ok unless specific 
wording against it, although that's also probably the original owner in 
contract not yourself. 
Ironically I was *just* having a similar thought and self conversation with 
some training materials I just purchased from a used book store.
All the best,
- John
 Original message From: Electronics Plus via cctalk 
 Date: 3/12/17  5:15 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: "'General 
Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'"  Subject: AIX 
documentation 
I have a number of binders that have pretty thorough AIX documentation, but
the trouble is, there are from security classes that were taught by private
companies. Am I legally allowed to resell these?
 

Re: need (physical) key for Sun SPARCserver 1000e

[Sam O'nella]

Perhaps a silly question but have you poked around local social media for a 
local unix group? Or a local craigslist ad for someone to borrow a key? I 
wouldn't think they'd be thst uncommon although admittedly I also 
stopped/paused a project for similar lack of results a while back (much 
different system though).

Re: How do you clean your vintage computers?

[Sam O'nella]

Am I misremembering or wasn't denatured alchohol the recommended type when 
cleaning rubber type computer parts (i.e. rollers in laser printers). I thought 
isopropyl dried them out.  I don't know the affects on either other than that 
though.

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

[Sam O'nella]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/85127208@N05/7799377360/in/photostream
Not sure if this URL will share properly but this is one item I'd love to hear 
if anyone knows about. Definitely one of my most unusual prices however I 
bought it from a fellow collector and he got it from a friend's pawn shop find 
so not much on the true origin other than speculation.
I haven't had time to fix it, but even the molecular connectors for the power 
are a but unusual.
I brought it to our VCF South/Southwest a few times for showing early Portable 
computers.

RE: Aliens film set equipment identification

[Sam O'nella]

http://www.starringthecomputer.com/feature.html?f=728
Not the system she seems to be looking at but one item noted by some collector 
out there were grid compass laptops.

RE: GMAIL accounts suspended.

[Sam O'nella]

On a side note Dave, incase you hadn't already you should change your password 
since that was included in the original post.

Altair 8800 name Was: Re: Altair 680 Expansion Boards?

[Sam O'nella]

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 5:54 PM, j...@cimmeri.com  wrote:

>
>
> On 12/17/2016 1:23 PM, Stephen Pereira wrote:
>
>> I was (finally) lucky enough to acquire an Altair 680 back in November...
>>
>
> Is there any logic to the naming of these Altairs?   Wonder why it wasn't
> "Altair 8080" and "Altair 6800".   8800 and 680 don't follow the same
> pattern.
>
> --
>
> Had MITS made other Altairs...
>
> Altair 8800 = 8080
>8850 = 8085
>8860 = 8086
>8880 = 8088
>8286 = 80286
>8386 = 80386
>680  = 6800
>680  = 6809
>680  = 68000
>
> ;-),
>
> - JS
> 
>
lol, I would love to hear that too if anyone knows any stories behind the
naming. Used to hurt my head to remember that it was an 8800 not an 8080.
I know the fairly well published story about the name Altair but companies
and their model numbers are always odd.

RE: looking for keytronics keyboard pad replacement kit

[Sam O'nella]

Did you ask on vcfed forums? I do recall a few years ago one or two folks 
offering to make sets although being years ago you may have been one of them :-)
 Original message From: william degnan  
Date: 12/11/16  4:17 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: cctech  
Subject: looking for keytronics keyboard pad replacement kit 
There was a seller on ebay who had a set of the pre-made keyboard key pads
for sale...anyone here selling these?  Yes I could make my own, I have gone
through the process, but I'd like to buy a set or two as I have a few
keyboards to repair.  it's a time consuming process.
Thanks in advance.
Bill

Re: Zenith Z160 Luggable PC aquired

[Sam O'nella]

I'm not sure specifically on the z-160 but my z-150 had it (iirc and it's been 
a while ctrl+alt+ins or ctrl+alt+enter) I think put you in the diagnostic rom 
which had a debugger.
Curiously though i dont know if that is a hardware function or a feature of 
zdos?
 Original message From: Fred Cisin  Date: 
12/11/16  6:59 PM  (GMT-06:00) 

Don't those machines have a debugging monitor in ROM?  (something that IBM 
does NOT)  Otherwise DEBUG.COM should work.

RE: Base 64 posts to the list

[Sam O'nella]

I'm not sure if it would make a difference but in your membership options to 
the list you can choose the format of the messages and how you'd like to 
receive them. I know my settings are plain text but I haven't played with the 
others to know if they have an option like that.
The only time I've seen base 64 coded stuff are spam pop-ups trying to bypass 
plaintext filters. Interesting to hear there's some legitimate usage happening.
 Original message From: jo...@otter.se Date: 12/2/16  4:45 AM  
(GMT-06:00) To: cct...@classiccmp.org Subject: Base 64 posts to the list 
some list posts have begun appearing in Base 64 format. I read 
the list in daily digest mode, and these posts are not converted to 
anything sensible

RE: Thinking about acquiring PDP stuff

[Sam O'nella]

Argument goes both ways. Does anyone really do practical things with any home 
computer? 
On the vcf forums I enjoyed two folks who eventually got their two PDP models 
running chess and had them play eachother.  I'd like to see a rematch or maybe 
some new vintage competitors approach :-)
If they can run holiday lights they could also probably use it for x10? home 
automation if one considers that practical.
 Original message From: Brad H 
So I wondered what PDP guys did to keep 
interestedand how much they actually used the machine over the course of, say, 
a year.

RE: Macintosh Portable

[Sam O'nella]

Did you end up trying anything yet? Isn't there some requirement for a working 
battery for it to power on or was that just the power routing through the 
battery so a corroded one isn't a simple run without it fix?
 Original message From: Chris Pye  Date: 
11/26/16  12:26 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic 
Posts"  Subject: Macintosh Portable 
Does anyone know off hand what polarity that Mac Portable requires? I know that 
the original was 7.5V @ 1.5A, but not sure of the polarity.

Re: Membership disabled due to bounces

[Sam O'nella]

Ditto although my timing was odd and I may have gotten the notice prior to 
replying.  I emailed Jay off list but understandably he should be having some 
family time during this holiday break and not having to worry about us right 
now :-)
Hopefully there's a log or something noting what the mail service did or what 
bounced if anything.
 Original message From: Adrian Stoness 
Weird I got one of these notices today when I replayed to a thread

Happy turkey day to the list

[Sam O'nella]

Should we do some sort of tradition of what vintage computing item we're 
thankful for? If  that's too much of a repeat it could be a vintage project 
this year that you're thankful for.
I know we're all thankful for Jay and classiccmp.org.
I'm thankful for my recent successful visit to San Jose.  I was fortunate 
enough to get to experience both Weird Stuff (first time) and the CHM (2nd time 
but previous was VCF 10). Was great to hear some other visitors at the museum 
bringing up memories and some chatter about teaching kids about old tech. One 
visitor was talking about how he had a class do a sort of human logic array so 
they'd hold hands if it was true or false (like the battery, thread 
spindle/paperclip, light bulb intro form building your own computer books).
Picked up some Byte magazines from Weird Stuff as a souvenir and of course 
bought some shirts and a donation to support the museum. On the 8.5 hour drive 
back to wgere i was supposed to be I listened to some old RCR podcasts I think 
it was David Greelish, Bill Degnan, Earl Evans and Jason Scott) lol. Probably 
one of the first couple episodes. Good time and you all kept me awake on a dark 
Pacific Highway 1. So thankful for you all too.
:-p 
- John

Novell was Re: TRIAD

[Sam O'nella]

I think it's the hardware or server company folks might have an attachment 
towards. I only saw novell 3.x and up but it was all standard x86 arch. Did 
they support other platforms?
 Original message  Not many here seem to be into preserving 
Novell servers and such.
   I could be mistaken.

Bill

RE: Various Software and Documentation for shipping + donations (round 2, much delayed)

[Sam O'nella]

Cindy as in electronic plus?
 Original message From: "Tapley, Mark" 
I'm trying to help Cindy find homes for some of what's left from her 
warehouse. I can hold them only temporarily ( :-) )

Re: Altair, IMSAI, SWTPC, etc. for sale in Philly

[Sam O'nella]

Out of curiosity and ignorance what's with the solder joints on the cards in 
the pictures? That orange color seems like it's everywhere around cold looking 
solder joints.  Is that rust, some sort or protection, or acid corrosion?
 Original message From: Mark G Thomas  Date: 
10/31/16 
I had the pleasure of visiting Rick yesterday. Please see below 
additional information about remaining items, with links to photos.
Please contact Rick directly if interested.

Original posting here:
On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 08:44:39AM +, steven stengel wrote:
> ---
> *  Contact Rick below if interested.  *
> ---
> Name: Rick Bunker
> Contact: r...@bunker.us
> Location: Jenkintown, PA    
10/30/2016 Update:--

> The Altair 8800, a very early one, 4-slot motherboard, 1K ram, ceramic CPU,
> you will see: https://goo.gl/photos/3C1pzfwFoZ3koPgt9
> 

Re: Imaging Old Disks Advice Needed

[Sam O'nella]

Out of curiosity, since I've never done this either but have heard most folks 
suggest it. How do you seal the newly made jacket? Is it not necessary or folks 
using scotch tape? 

Re: Archived viruses, was Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?

[Sam O'nella]

I wouldn't dismiss it if you're using images or any used software. Yes some 
platforms are more susceptible than others but unless you have no hard drive, 
power your system off after every use, and never switch disks while system is 
running it's still something that can infest your originals or archive.
Dan's great collection of cpm is a good example of something that ended up 
passed around the community and had a few infected images.  Depending on 
whether it's a file, boot sector, MBr or TSR it will different and potentially 
detrimental impact.
I stopped archiving my Amiga disks but at a place I worked that had Amiga 
systems some kids brought in lots of games (some cracked) and while we didn't 
allow that it was spring break and they had finished their work. What's the 
worst that could happen? Kids slowly starting to walk up and say their computer 
says it's infected with a virus.
Probably one disk but who knows how many were infected after that. Took me 
longer just to find an antivirus for the Amiga than to get the systems cleaned 
lol but still, an unexpected pain.
One of the best preventative methods if the software doesn't need to write to 
the originals is write protect the floppy.  But buying used, who knows if the 
previous owner was computer savvy or safe.
 Original message From: Steven M Jones 
Well, glad to hear there's nothing to worry about. 

OT: Excessive bounce notices?

[Sam O'nella]

Just curious, I probably could have just asked Jay but incase this was wider 
spread I received a message that my subscription at my Gmail was suspended due 
to bounces. I was wondering if that may have been only today and more 
widespread from the Dyn dns ddos that happened? If so others may want to double 
check for similar issues as I probably missed some messages today.
No biggie, just a PSA if it affected more than myself.

Re: Altair, IMSAI, SWTPC, etc. for sale in Philly

[Sam O'nella]

No idea why this ended up in my spam folder, but replying just to get it
one more look as-if it needed any help ;-)  I'm surprised he doesn't ebay
it to be honest.  The last sentence, is that Rick asking or you Steven
asking?

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 3:44 AM, steven stengel  wrote:

>
> 
> *  Contact Rick
> below if interested.  *-
> 
> ---
> Name: Rick BunkerContact: r...@bunker.us Location: Jenkintown,
> PA
> I have a computer collection that I have to sell. My wife and I have
> separated, and the house is being sold, and I have no place to keep the
> computers in my new apartment.
> It is a pretty nice collection. Altair 8800, two IMSAI 8080's, an Apple ][
> (not ][+ or e or anything, the first one), a TRS-80 (the real first
> revision, with no numeric keypad, with the original cassette drive,
> monitor) an LSI monitor, a KIM-1, an original IBM PC (not an XT -- original
> 2-floppys, original bios), an SwTPC 6800 box, with no innards. Similarly, a
> Cromemco box with no innards. A Northstar Horizon.
>
>  Some 8-inch drives, a bunch of S-100 boards, a luggable Kaypro portable,
> an odd and an end or two.
>
> Lots of documentation.
>  Some old disks which may have readable software on them. I don't power
> these things up, since they have power supplies that you can weld with,
> with 40-year-old capacitors on them.
>
> Is there anybody in striking distance of Philadelphia suburbs, who would
> consider buying and picking up this collection?
> 
> 
>
>
>

Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?

[Sam O'nella]

Does that archive on classiccmp.org have the infected images removed or
cleaned? (Just curious as I remember this came up in a couple other forums
that I think one or two of the images did have a virus).

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 11:17 AM, James Attfield 
wrote:

> > From: "Mike Stein" 
> > Subject: Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?
> > Message-ID: 
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> >
> > Any chance you still have a copy of that CP/M port buried somewhere?
> > We're sort of collecting the various Cromemco ports and emulators.
> >
> Sorry Mike, I didn't think so but went through my diskettes anyway and no
> go
> - all CDOS. I do believe that there was a Cromemco CP/M in the Don Maslim
> archives and another in the classicmp Dave Dunfield archives here
> http://www.classiccmp.org/dunfield/img54306/system.htm. If all else
> fails, I
> have found a CROMCPM.TD0 file in my archives which is Teledisk format and
> is
> 607Kb but I don't have a functional Teledisk at the moment so can't tell
> what it represents. I'm not sure of the source but would be happy to
> forward
> it to someone with a functional Teledisk, or Dave Dunfield's converter from
> TD0 to his IMD ImageDisk format.
>
> James
>
>

Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?

[Sam O'nella]

Congratulations! Fun to find some of the wooden generation of computers. Keep 
us posted on the restoration efforts (if any) :-)
 Original message From: "Mark J. Blair" 
》the deal to be completed in a little over a week

Re: Where are the cctech archives before November 2014 ?

[Sam O'nella]

Good find on archive.org even in .gz format still. I'm fairly positive the 
incident was discussed on the mailing list and vcfed. Issues happen and it was 
a perfect storm.
I like to chock it up to new technology failing us. ;-)
Kudos to Jay for keeping this alive as well as he does. Lots of great history 
and stories are definitely discovered and archived here.

Re: Picked up Commodore Amiga 2000

[Sam O'nella]

I don't get the lack of love here. Every good hacker knows the answer is 
because it can. I think it adds to the charm and shows the power of the Amiga 
quite well. Also it shows off the technology of a computer on a card 
technology. 
For the architecture wars fans it also reflects that they don't need a dreaded 
"pee see". In any event I'm a fan of emulation and hardware emulation I think 
is pretty solid technology vs the software counterparts.
In a demo story an Amiga employee in town said he did a demo of his Amiga 3000 
tower on a tech TV show. While he was playing some music on the Amiga he 
started up his bridge board app and loaded Windows 3.x. Then while waiting for 
Windows to load switched windows to show a restore off an internal SCSI tape 
drive.
Pretty amazing technology. Plus you could even run a dos game then see the 
difference in the Amiga version  (that'd be a great VCF demo).
 Original message From: Chris Hanson 
 Date: 10/5/16  12:50 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: "General 
Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"  Subject: Re: 
Picked up Commodore Amiga 2000 
On Oct 4, 2016, at 7:13 PM, devin davison  wrote:
> 
> It looks as if PC compatibility

Frankly, um, who cares?

Re: Unexpected Apple Lisa display - what is it?

[Sam O'nella]

Lol well crap. I was trying to remember which member here owned that site but 
figured it out. So where'd you find the picture Steven?
 Original message 
> From: steven stengel 

> 
> What is this unusual Apple Lisa display - some sort of diagnostics?
> 
> http://oldcomputers.net/temp/lisa.jpg

Tips for getting to CHM from SJC airport without a car?

[Sam O'nella]

A bit off topic other than tips for anyone else trying to travel cheaply. I
have a trip to California in a month although the final destination isn't
San Jose.

I can fly in to SJC and Google is sounding like I might be able to get a
few bus hops from the airport and find my way there? Any tips, tricks or
warnings?

*(more off-topic below, feel free to stop above for helping anyone venture
around to CHM).
No idea if I'm testing my luck neighborhood wise and debating taking a bus
or train from Mountain view to Pasadena after my free day.

Feel free to email me offline if this is too far from list interest. Mostly
if anyone was to benefit it would be what's the cheapest route to spend a
day at the CHM and then return to the airport again.

- John

RE: Large Mac liquidation in Denver, 8/21

[Sam O'nella]

Interestingly? The trading post area on the forum is login required.
 Original message From: John Ames  
Date: 8/15/16  9:29 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: cctalk  Subject: 
Large Mac liquidation in Denver, 8/21 
https://68kmla.org/forums/index.php?/topic/28206-everything-must-go-denver-mac-sale-sunday-821/

Not mine, but I wanted to spread the word about this since it's one of
those "take it or it goes to the dump" affairs...hopefully somebody
can make it out there for this.

Another pdp-8 auction at 25k

[Sam O'nella]

http://m.ebay.com/itm/DEC-PDP8-I-MINICOMPUTER-PDP8-PDP-8-PDP-8-/201627112300

Did someone already post this other pdp-8 auction? Same semi-ridiculous 
starting price as other straight 8 but i honestly don't know enough about PDP 
to know what this is or if its not a straight version.  Seems like a museum 
piece though although perhaps all of you PDP collectors have a similar setup 
:-) 

Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now

[Sam O'nella]

There may be some archives here or vcf with enough prices.  Iirc i thought i 
remember one selling for something pretty high (8000/12000?) X years ago 
although i think like this it's a calculated price of doubling the last sale 
they saw. Although apple 1s seem to accomplish whatever that law is called :-)

RE: DOS code in CP/M? Revisited...

[Sam O'nella]

I thought it had said CP/M code in DOS? Revisited..."  Sometimes I really think 
I'm dyslexic.  


> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Evan Koblentz
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 10:45 PM
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: DOS code in CP/M? Revisited...
> 
> Did MS-DOS use code copied from CP/M? 
> 

Get ready for mind blown moment. ... ;-) you were right both times! {Insert 
dramatic ground hog clip}

RE: Reproduction micros

[Sam O'nella]

 Original message 

The thing about the Amiga was its wow factor -- I remember
walking into Compucentre (Canadian chain) in the mid-80s.. and there's all
the computers from 8 bit heaven and their 16 color graphics (if you were
lucky).. and then there's this one computer on a pedestal featuring a
totally real jungle cat prowling onscreen.  It just blew the doors off
everything else there, and I would go wanting for one for 20 years afterward
(now I have 5 :)).  Not sure a replica can revive *that*.


Thats an awesome story and experience that unfortunately i agree is hard to 
relay to people these days.  To see how great lots of classics were during 
their heyday in comparison to what was out is what made so many historic 
memories. 

I think its unfortunately harder for younger generation sometimes to put away 
their cinematic quality vr and experience vintage gaming for what it was.  
Graphics drawn by programming, music while gaming, going for blocks and blips 
to fully animated sprites and tracked music playing all while fitting on a 
floppy disk.

Or even the wealth and size of the virtual text world at a terminal or personal 
computer.  Preaching to  the choir here but when i did finally get around to 
showing selections of systems at our past vcf it was a blast and i enjoyed 
showing some of the comparison of commodore to some pc ascii games but also 
being fair and switching out to some of my favorite dos games too as well as 
pointing out the crispness of the pc display for text making it a probable 
better system out of the box for staring at text all day.

I miss closer vcfs :-( 

RE: Reproduction micros

[Sam O'nella]

I haven't built or marketed anything myself but i believe if i understood  
correctly from several folks who have that vga was a cheaper choice due to 
licensing costs for dvi or hdmi at the time. 

Not sure if vga is past that point or open but when keeping home brew kits 
cheap for us hobbyists every dollar counts.

It would be interesting maybe as a Wikipedia page (thought there was one) to 
show which projects were out there and preferably which are still active.  A 
shrinking but understandable issue when buying  im batches with personal money 
in hopes that theyll sell eventually.