[cctalk] Re: Apple G5 Rebuild
On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 22:54, Doc Shipley via cctalk wrote: > > Liam, don't be a d**k. I am sorry. :-( I did not think that calling out a bogus claim was a nasty thing to do, but I sit corrected, and I apologise. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven UK: (+44) 7939-087884 ~ Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420) 702-829-053
[cctalk] Re: Apple G5 Rebuild
Thank you for all the responses to my query - they're really helpful. I'm usually pretty handy with Google but must have lost the plot this day - I was trying "pmg5 build" - doh. Kevin Parker -Original Message- From: Kevin Parker via cctalk Sent: Monday, 10 October 2022 17:15 To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Cc: Kevin Parker Subject: [cctalk] Apple G5 Rebuild Hoping there's an Apple enthusiast out there somewhere please. A friend gave me a PM G5 which I'd love to add to the Apple corner of my collection. Must admit I love the G5 case. Problem is the internals are in a million pieces but everything seems to be there. Its not a basket case, more like a bucket case because I took the side off and basically poured it all out. My options are. > Toss it > Use the case for an ATX conversion > Use it for a letter box > Have a crack at fixing it. I like having a crack at fixing things first. I'm a preservationist first. Problem is my GoogleFoo can't find any diagrams, illustrations etc on how the internals are put together and I'm hoping some Apple person out there might have something or be able to point me somewhere. (I did find some photos at https://www.overclock.net/threads/power-mac-g5-build.1452312/ for a twin CPU model but I need more detail for a single chip 2.0 GHz PowerPC 970MP (G5) model.) Thank you. Kevin Parker
[cctalk] Re: Apple G5 Rebuild
Why would a paid link come up when searching for something vintage computery? The results are not tailored to suit the searcher, but the advertisers, regardless of the search terms. Hence: trash. And you're not going to convince me otherwise. Google is the Deathstar of the internet. Sellam On Tue, Oct 11, 2022, 8:59 AM ben via cctalk wrote: > On 2022-10-10 5:01 p.m., Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: > > I blame Google: it's complete trash now. > > > > Sellam > > > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 2:40 PM Grant Taylor via cctalk < > > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > >> On 10/10/22 10:33 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > >>> 4 words is not "Google-fu". > >> > >> Sometimes knowing /which/ /words/ to search for is the problem. > >> > >> I've also seen Google return extremely different search results for > >> different people. > >> > >> Let's assume good intention and benign mistake. No need to even > >> passively insult someone. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Grant. . . . > >> unix || die > >> > > It is not trash. PAID sites get first pick in sorting, I suspect. > On the tablet,it picks what it thinks you want."neeps and haggis" might > get you "need a bag" rather than a scottish dinner > Using the other search engine. > Now Amazon and ebay, are trash. > Ben. > >
[cctalk] Re: Apple G5 Rebuild
On 2022-10-10 5:01 p.m., Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: I blame Google: it's complete trash now. Sellam On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 2:40 PM Grant Taylor via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: On 10/10/22 10:33 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: 4 words is not "Google-fu". Sometimes knowing /which/ /words/ to search for is the problem. I've also seen Google return extremely different search results for different people. Let's assume good intention and benign mistake. No need to even passively insult someone. -- Grant. . . . unix || die It is not trash. PAID sites get first pick in sorting, I suspect. On the tablet,it picks what it thinks you want."neeps and haggis" might get you "need a bag" rather than a scottish dinner Using the other search engine. Now Amazon and ebay, are trash. Ben.
[cctalk] Re: Apple G5 Rebuild
On 10/10/22 5:47 PM, Stuff Received via cctalk wrote: Indeed. Also, I have added more words and received more search results. One would expect the opposite. Google also tailors results to location and cookies. (I always search in private mode.) Not what it once was...(Sigh) Agreed all around with both you and Sellam. I have pontificated writing my own search engine. But I've never found neither sufficient round-2-its nor motivation to do so. -- Grant. . . . unix || die
[cctalk] Re: Apple G5 Rebuild
On 2022-10-10 17:39, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: On 10/10/22 10:33 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: 4 words is not "Google-fu". Sometimes knowing /which/ /words/ to search for is the problem. Indeed. Also, I have added more words and received more search results. One would expect the opposite. I've also seen Google return extremely different search results for different people. Google also tailors results to location and cookies. (I always search in private mode.) Not what it once was...(Sigh) N.
[cctalk] Re: Apple G5 Rebuild
I blame Google: it's complete trash now. Sellam On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 2:40 PM Grant Taylor via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 10/10/22 10:33 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > > 4 words is not "Google-fu". > > Sometimes knowing /which/ /words/ to search for is the problem. > > I've also seen Google return extremely different search results for > different people. > > Let's assume good intention and benign mistake. No need to even > passively insult someone. > > > > -- > Grant. . . . > unix || die >
[cctalk] Re: Apple G5 Rebuild
On 10/10/22 10:33 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: 4 words is not "Google-fu". Sometimes knowing /which/ /words/ to search for is the problem. I've also seen Google return extremely different search results for different people. Let's assume good intention and benign mistake. No need to even passively insult someone. -- Grant. . . . unix || die
[cctalk] Re: Apple G5 Rebuild
On 10/10/22 11:33, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 08:20, Kevin Parker via cctalk wrote: Problem is my GoogleFoo can't find any diagrams, illustrations etc on how the internals are put together What? I am *amazed*. I don't know how you could _not_ find the info. There is loads of it. This is the first hit on "apple powermac g5 disassembly" -- https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Disassembling+Power+Mac+G5+Motherboard/7579 This is the 2nd: https://www.ifixit.com/Device/Power_Mac_G5 It's one of the easiest machines ever to assemble or disassemble and there's tons of info, videos, walkthrough, step by step guides etc. 4 words is not "Google-fu". Liam, don't be a d**k. Doc
[cctalk] Re: Apple G5 Rebuild
> TenFourFox is essentially a current web-browser. It's kind of you to say that, but at its core it's still just a hopped-up Firefox 45. Many things work, many things work but look funny, and an increasing proportion of things don't work at all. I myself just use it for basic tasks now that I'm on a Raptor Talos II as my desktop machine, though I do issue security patches on an irregular timeline. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- If they give you ruled paper, write the other way. -- Juan Ramon Jimenez ---
[cctalk] Re: Apple G5 Rebuild
A few more useful sites: https://tim.id.au/laptops/apple/powermac/powermac_g5.pdf This one includes official Apple “take-apart procedures" http://resale.headgap.com Parts and components, in case you actually are missing something in their catalog. Satisfied customer, no other relation. https://everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/index-powermac-g5.html https://lowendmac.com/tag/power-mac-g5/ Specifications, benchmarks, etc. Once you get it running, we are headed into winter when electric heaters may be desirable. These two sites: https://www.distributed.net/Main_Page http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com Will give you semi-productive things to do with it; the G5 machines with altivec are pretty good at RC5-72 compared to most CPUs, and TenFourFox is essentially a current web-browser. I’m also not a black-belt goog-fu artist. There is more available. Hope this much is helpful, though. - Mark On Oct 10, 2022, at 11:33 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: [EXTERNAL EMAIL] On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 08:20, Kevin Parker via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: Problem is my GoogleFoo can't find any diagrams, illustrations etc on how the internals are put together What? I am *amazed*. I don't know how you could _not_ find the info. There is loads of it. This is the first hit on "apple powermac g5 disassembly" -- https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Disassembling+Power+Mac+G5+Motherboard/7579 This is the 2nd: https://www.ifixit.com/Device/Power_Mac_G5 It's one of the easiest machines ever to assemble or disassemble and there's tons of info, videos, walkthrough, step by step guides etc. 4 words is not "Google-fu". -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven UK: (+44) 7939-087884 ~ Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420) 702-829-053
[cctalk] Re: Apple G5 Rebuild
On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 08:20, Kevin Parker via cctalk wrote: > > Problem is my GoogleFoo can't find any diagrams, illustrations etc on how > the internals are put together What? I am *amazed*. I don't know how you could _not_ find the info. There is loads of it. This is the first hit on "apple powermac g5 disassembly" -- https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Disassembling+Power+Mac+G5+Motherboard/7579 This is the 2nd: https://www.ifixit.com/Device/Power_Mac_G5 It's one of the easiest machines ever to assemble or disassemble and there's tons of info, videos, walkthrough, step by step guides etc. 4 words is not "Google-fu". -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven UK: (+44) 7939-087884 ~ Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420) 702-829-053
