[cctalk] Re: DEC VT340/330 ROM Cartridge

2024-04-08 Thread Paul Anderson via cctalk
I believe the VT340-A has the ROM card, but the VT340-G (or plus) does not.
The same goes for the VT330A, B, and C versus the D, E, and F.

Paul

On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 1:07 AM Glen Slick via cctalk 
wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 8:26 AM Douglas Taylor via cctalk
>  wrote:
> >
> > On 4/6/2024 11:14 AM, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote:
> > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 3:54 PM Douglas Taylor via cctalk
> > >  wrote:
> > >> The DEC VT340 has a slot in the back of the terminal to insert a ROM
> > >> cartridge.  I can't find any description of what this DEC labeled ROM
> > >> cartridge would do for you.  I've seen them with V1.1 and V2.1
> markings,
> > >> does anyone remember what additional capabilities these ROM cartridge
> > >> provide?
> > > Will the terminal work at all without that cartridge fitted?. I've had
> > > a quick look at the VT330 and VT340 printsets and I can't obviously
> > > spot any firmware ROMs on the main board schematics. So my first guess
> > > is that said cartridge is the terminal firmware.
> > >
> > > -tony
> >
> > Hmm, I have a VT340 that seems to pass POST but no video.  It does have
> > a cartridge inserted into the slot, you may be exactly correct.
> >
> > Doug
>
> The VT340 I have does not have an opening on the back where the ROM
> slot would be. Maybe the ROM card is still there in that location, but
> the back cover molding was changed to remove the user accessible slot.
> I'd have to pull the cover off to see if the ROM board is still in
> that location.
>
> The VT330 I have does have a removable ROM card. That one might be a
> pre-production unit. Instead of mask ROMs it has EPROMs, and the
> manuals it came with are not production level manuals.
>


[cctalk] Re: DEC VT340/330 ROM Cartridge

2024-04-08 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 8:26 AM Douglas Taylor via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> On 4/6/2024 11:14 AM, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 3:54 PM Douglas Taylor via cctalk
> >  wrote:
> >> The DEC VT340 has a slot in the back of the terminal to insert a ROM
> >> cartridge.  I can't find any description of what this DEC labeled ROM
> >> cartridge would do for you.  I've seen them with V1.1 and V2.1 markings,
> >> does anyone remember what additional capabilities these ROM cartridge
> >> provide?
> > Will the terminal work at all without that cartridge fitted?. I've had
> > a quick look at the VT330 and VT340 printsets and I can't obviously
> > spot any firmware ROMs on the main board schematics. So my first guess
> > is that said cartridge is the terminal firmware.
> >
> > -tony
>
> Hmm, I have a VT340 that seems to pass POST but no video.  It does have
> a cartridge inserted into the slot, you may be exactly correct.
>
> Doug

The VT340 I have does not have an opening on the back where the ROM
slot would be. Maybe the ROM card is still there in that location, but
the back cover molding was changed to remove the user accessible slot.
I'd have to pull the cover off to see if the ROM board is still in
that location.

The VT330 I have does have a removable ROM card. That one might be a
pre-production unit. Instead of mask ROMs it has EPROMs, and the
manuals it came with are not production level manuals.


[cctalk] Re: DEC VT340/330 ROM Cartridge

2024-04-06 Thread Douglas Taylor via cctalk

On 4/6/2024 11:14 AM, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote:

On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 3:54 PM Douglas Taylor via cctalk
 wrote:

The DEC VT340 has a slot in the back of the terminal to insert a ROM
cartridge.  I can't find any description of what this DEC labeled ROM
cartridge would do for you.  I've seen them with V1.1 and V2.1 markings,
does anyone remember what additional capabilities these ROM cartridge
provide?

Will the terminal work at all without that cartridge fitted?. I've had
a quick look at the VT330 and VT340 printsets and I can't obviously
spot any firmware ROMs on the main board schematics. So my first guess
is that said cartridge is the terminal firmware.

-tony


Hmm, I have a VT340 that seems to pass POST but no video.  It does have 
a cartridge inserted into the slot, you may be exactly correct.


Doug



[cctalk] Re: DEC VT340/330 ROM Cartridge

2024-04-06 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 3:54 PM Douglas Taylor via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> The DEC VT340 has a slot in the back of the terminal to insert a ROM
> cartridge.  I can't find any description of what this DEC labeled ROM
> cartridge would do for you.  I've seen them with V1.1 and V2.1 markings,
> does anyone remember what additional capabilities these ROM cartridge
> provide?

Will the terminal work at all without that cartridge fitted?. I've had
a quick look at the VT330 and VT340 printsets and I can't obviously
spot any firmware ROMs on the main board schematics. So my first guess
is that said cartridge is the terminal firmware.

-tony