Re: AIX 4.1.3 on 7009-C20 RS/6000

[Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk]

Hi there!

   Yeah, it never gets so far as to put any information up on the console.  
Only some LED codes that indicates it attempts boot, then goes back to the ROM 
menu.  After some more research last night, looks like I'd need the 4.1.3 for 
Servers for D5 Processor Group, so this media probably isn't going to get me 
anywhere, even if I could try a NIM boot.


   As for why 4.1.3, I have some old stuff that requires that version.  I'm 
fully aware that 4.3.3 or even 5.1 would probably result in a more useful 
system overall, and I have media kits for both, but 4.1.3 only is what's in 
scope right now.


   Anyway, thanks much!






From: Rico Pajarola <r...@servium.ch>
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 1:08 AM
To: Benjamin Huntsman; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: AIX 4.1.3 on 7009-C20 RS/6000

As far as I remember trying to install the client version of AIX on a server 
type machine will bomb early in the installation, but it will give you some 
confirmation that it did indeed boot from the CD. Maybe your CD is indeed bad.

Any specific reason why you want to run 4.1.3 and not 4.1.5, 4.2.1 or 4.3.3? 
(is there any hardware that only works with 4.1.3?).


On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 4:57 AM, Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk 
<cctalk@classiccmp.org<mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote:
Any RS/6000 hobbyists out there?


I got my old 7009-C20 pretty tricked out and hardware carefully selected to be 
compatible with AIX 4.1.3, the version I'm trying to get running on it. 
Unfortunately, I can't get the dang thing to boot my 4.1.3 or 4.1.4 CD's.  
It'll boot my 4.1.5 disc, however.  The 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 CD's are labeled "AIX 
for clients" or something like that, and I seem to recall having trouble 
getting other RS/6000's to boot from this 4.1.3 CD, even though it's genuine 
original media, and reads just fine in a working system.


Anyone know a way to check what systems an old AIX 4.1 disc supports, or have  
C20 or similar MCA machine running 4.1.3?


My other thought was to try to NIM boot it using my ThinkPad 860 as a NIM 
server (running 4.1.5), but it unfortunately doesn't have enough capacity to 
hold a lpp_source and a SPOT, and even then it looks like the 4.1.3 disc may 
not have enough stuff on it to support the C20 anyway...


Anyway, thanks in advance!

Re: AIX 4.1.3 on 7009-C20 RS/6000

[Kevin Bowling via cctalk]

Yes, http://ps-2.kev009.com/ has my RS/6k preservation

Why are you trying to install that specific version?  For "standard"
MCA systems there are only three versions the really "matter" IMHO and
backward binary compatibility is good in AIX:  3.2.5, 4.3.3, 5.1.
3.2.5 is best for early POWER1 and includes a compiler.  4.3.3 is a
good balance of performance, new enough C/POSIX interfaces to port
stuff, features, etc.  5.1 is fine on more powerful machines (the C20
with cache should be ok).

For newer PCI systems 5.1, 5.3, 7.1 are the interesting versions.  5.1
for PReP, 5.3 for older CHRP, 7.1 for P4-P6.  7.2 will only run on
P7+.  And then the oddball systems like the Apple Network Server and
ThinkPad 800s have their own 4.1 releases, and the 7007-N40 has a
special 3.2.5 release.  I have the ANS and N40 releases if anyone
needs them.

Regards,

On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 9:57 PM, Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk
 wrote:
> Any RS/6000 hobbyists out there?
>
>
> I got my old 7009-C20 pretty tricked out and hardware carefully selected to 
> be compatible with AIX 4.1.3, the version I'm trying to get running on it. 
> Unfortunately, I can't get the dang thing to boot my 4.1.3 or 4.1.4 CD's.  
> It'll boot my 4.1.5 disc, however.  The 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 CD's are labeled "AIX 
> for clients" or something like that, and I seem to recall having trouble 
> getting other RS/6000's to boot from this 4.1.3 CD, even though it's genuine 
> original media, and reads just fine in a working system.
>
>
> Anyone know a way to check what systems an old AIX 4.1 disc supports, or have 
>  C20 or similar MCA machine running 4.1.3?
>
>
> My other thought was to try to NIM boot it using my ThinkPad 860 as a NIM 
> server (running 4.1.5), but it unfortunately doesn't have enough capacity to 
> hold a lpp_source and a SPOT, and even then it looks like the 4.1.3 disc may 
> not have enough stuff on it to support the C20 anyway...
>
>
> Anyway, thanks in advance!
>

Re: AIX 4.1.3 on 7009-C20 RS/6000

[Rico Pajarola via cctalk]

As far as I remember trying to install the client version of AIX on a
server type machine will bomb early in the installation, but it will give
you some confirmation that it did indeed boot from the CD. Maybe your CD is
indeed bad.

Any specific reason why you want to run 4.1.3 and not 4.1.5, 4.2.1 or
4.3.3? (is there any hardware that only works with 4.1.3?).


On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 4:57 AM, Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Any RS/6000 hobbyists out there?
>
>
> I got my old 7009-C20 pretty tricked out and hardware carefully selected
> to be compatible with AIX 4.1.3, the version I'm trying to get running on
> it. Unfortunately, I can't get the dang thing to boot my 4.1.3 or 4.1.4
> CD's.  It'll boot my 4.1.5 disc, however.  The 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 CD's are
> labeled "AIX for clients" or something like that, and I seem to recall
> having trouble getting other RS/6000's to boot from this 4.1.3 CD, even
> though it's genuine original media, and reads just fine in a working system.
>
>
> Anyone know a way to check what systems an old AIX 4.1 disc supports, or
> have  C20 or similar MCA machine running 4.1.3?
>
>
> My other thought was to try to NIM boot it using my ThinkPad 860 as a NIM
> server (running 4.1.5), but it unfortunately doesn't have enough capacity
> to hold a lpp_source and a SPOT, and even then it looks like the 4.1.3 disc
> may not have enough stuff on it to support the C20 anyway...
>
>
> Anyway, thanks in advance!
>
>

AIX 4.1.3 on 7009-C20 RS/6000

[Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk]

Any RS/6000 hobbyists out there?


I got my old 7009-C20 pretty tricked out and hardware carefully selected to be 
compatible with AIX 4.1.3, the version I'm trying to get running on it. 
Unfortunately, I can't get the dang thing to boot my 4.1.3 or 4.1.4 CD's.  
It'll boot my 4.1.5 disc, however.  The 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 CD's are labeled "AIX 
for clients" or something like that, and I seem to recall having trouble 
getting other RS/6000's to boot from this 4.1.3 CD, even though it's genuine 
original media, and reads just fine in a working system.


Anyone know a way to check what systems an old AIX 4.1 disc supports, or have  
C20 or similar MCA machine running 4.1.3?


My other thought was to try to NIM boot it using my ThinkPad 860 as a NIM 
server (running 4.1.5), but it unfortunately doesn't have enough capacity to 
hold a lpp_source and a SPOT, and even then it looks like the 4.1.3 disc may 
not have enough stuff on it to support the C20 anyway...


Anyway, thanks in advance!