RE: Apple II Rev 2 value?

[Brad]

I have tons of integer roms and spare keys.  I am a veteran of that whole 
business. :)  I recall trying the flush method on my Rev 4 here but it turned 
out to be fruitless on a lot of them.  I think mine spent time in the Titanic's 
purser's safe.

So value wise, could I go $1300-1800 without causing offence?  I actually 
prefer the broken machines -- just fun to fix up.  But also because the initial 
outlay hopefully is cheaper.

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From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Corey Cohen
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 3:59 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts <cct...@classiccmp.org>
Cc: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: Apple II Rev 2 value?

Sticking keys are normal if it's a datanetics keyboard (original).  You can 
recover the switches usually by flushing then with 91% ISP and lots of 
mechanical motion.   I usually pull the key cap off and use a needle nose 
pliers about 50 times on each switch flushing it every so often using the ISP 
in an eye dropper.Even if there is a key or two you can't recover they can 
be found for about $10-15 each every so often on eBay.  

A set of Integer Roms on a language card will cost you about $150.  

Just remember when you usually see these early Apple II up for sale they 
usually aren't working correctly.  Keep that in mind when you research prices.  
Early Apple II are like Rev-0 and Rev-1 ALTAIR, people usually don't sell them 
in perfect working condition unless you had some .  So easier to buy one 
with potential and get to running.  

Cheers,
Corey

corey cohen
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> On Oct 31, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Brad <unclefal...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> 
> I had a closer look at the Rev 2.  The keyboard is non functional (all the 
> keys stick).  The ROMs are applesoft, not integer basic (it has a ram add on 
> card too).  It powers up but nothing happens.  Would that still have us in 
> the $2k range?  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Corey 
> Cohen
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 4:08 AM
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts <cct...@classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: Apple II Rev 2 value?
> 
> Yep.  I have a spare blank datanetics PCB if you want to transfer your 
> switches to a PCB which doesn't have repairs.  This is for the version with 
> the separate encoder daughter board.  
> 
> Cheers,
> Corey
> 
> corey cohen
> uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ
> 
>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 2:11 PM, Corey Cohen <appleco...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> 
>> If the keyboard is a datanetics with the daughter board, I may have a spare 
>> empty PCB if you want it to transfer your switches.  I'll check tonight. 
>> 
>> Where are you located?
>> 
>> It actually should be a silver supply.  I have a rev-4 with original silver 
>> supply.   I elected to repair instead of replace my supply. 
>> 
>> So I would think about $1000 to 1500 when all together.  The big question is 
>> that hole you mentioned was drilled into the case.  Can you be more 
>> specific? That affects the value.  
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Corey
>> 
>> corey cohen
>> uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ
>> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Brad <unclefal...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My Rev 4 has an Apple Rev 4 board in it.  Basically I tossed the clone 
>>> board and PSU and replaced with what should be the correct motherboard 
>>> (w/integer basic ROMs) and I think PSU.  PSU seems to be a matter of 
>>> debate, some have suggested to me it should be the silver A2M, others said 
>>> it should be the gold 2+ style one I have in there now.  Not sure on that.  
>>> The keyboard is the original for sure, but I had to do some trace repair on 
>>> it using short jumper wires.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of 
>>> Corey Cohen
>>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 9:45 AM
>>> To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts <cct...@classiccmp.org>
>>> Cc: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts 
>>> <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Apple II Rev 2 value?
>>> 
>>> Well your rev-4 setup isn't going to be worth top dollar because of the 
>>> condition and clone motherboard, you don't mention if it's the original 
>>> datanetics keyboard and if the powersupply is the original one.  Infact it 
>>> may only be worth a couple of hundred dollars or less.   
>>> 
>>> Basically the answers to those questions determine if you are simply 
>>> selling a case or a case with ex

RE: Apple II Rev 2 value?

[Brad]

Thanks Corey.  My keyboard is actually the brown single board version.  

Here's a picture of the hole in the back where the add on switch is (and some 
other pics of my unit): 
http://s1381.photobucket.com/user/unclefalter/library/Apple%20II%20A2S1  
That tiny switch is all there is -- it was used to switch power on and off for 
the clone psu.

I have been looking for a silver A2M power supply for eons but they seem to be 
hotly contested.

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Corey Cohen
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 4:08 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts <cct...@classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: Apple II Rev 2 value?

Yep.  I have a spare blank datanetics PCB if you want to transfer your switches 
to a PCB which doesn't have repairs.  This is for the version with the separate 
encoder daughter board.  

Cheers,
Corey 

corey cohen
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> On Oct 30, 2015, at 2:11 PM, Corey Cohen <appleco...@optonline.net> wrote:
> 
> If the keyboard is a datanetics with the daughter board, I may have a spare 
> empty PCB if you want it to transfer your switches.  I'll check tonight. 
> 
> Where are you located?
> 
> It actually should be a silver supply.  I have a rev-4 with original silver 
> supply.   I elected to repair instead of replace my supply. 
> 
> So I would think about $1000 to 1500 when all together.  The big question is 
> that hole you mentioned was drilled into the case.  Can you be more specific? 
> That affects the value.  
> 
> Cheers,
> Corey
> 
> corey cohen
> uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ
> 
>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Brad <unclefal...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> My Rev 4 has an Apple Rev 4 board in it.  Basically I tossed the clone board 
>> and PSU and replaced with what should be the correct motherboard (w/integer 
>> basic ROMs) and I think PSU.  PSU seems to be a matter of debate, some have 
>> suggested to me it should be the silver A2M, others said it should be the 
>> gold 2+ style one I have in there now.  Not sure on that.  The keyboard is 
>> the original for sure, but I had to do some trace repair on it using short 
>> jumper wires.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Corey Cohen
>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 9:45 AM
>> To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts <cct...@classiccmp.org>
>> Cc: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts 
>> <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
>> Subject: Re: Apple II Rev 2 value?
>> 
>> Well your rev-4 setup isn't going to be worth top dollar because of the 
>> condition and clone motherboard, you don't mention if it's the original 
>> datanetics keyboard and if the powersupply is the original one.  Infact it 
>> may only be worth a couple of hundred dollars or less.   
>> 
>> Basically the answers to those questions determine if you are simply selling 
>> a case or a case with extras.  Notice I didn't say you are selling a Rev4 
>> Apple II because the motherboard is missing.  
>> 
>> Also depending on the hole that was drilled also that can impact the value a 
>> lot for a case since people looking for a case want a good condition one. 
>> 
>> Answer those questions and we will give you a good idea. 
>> 
>> As for the Rev 2.  In the condition explained I'd expect maybe 2k.  btw.  
>> Rev 0 are going for more 3k if they are in complete condition.  Most aren't. 
>>  They tend to have replacement parts like supply or keyboard.  If the 
>> motherboard is replaced they are just a case.   
>> 
>> Also with anything timing is important, if a person is looking at the time, 
>> they may spend more than if no one is looking at that specific time.  I have 
>> seen eBay auctions sometimes too late and kicked my self how low something 
>> went for.   You just never know.  
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Corey
>> 
>> corey cohen
>> uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ
>> 
>>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 5:36 PM, Brad <unclefal...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a rev 4 Apple II in the 38000 s/n range.  I'm hoping to, over 
>>> the years, gradually trade my way up to a Rev 0.  I've seen Rev 0 
>>> units go on ebay recently for around $3000ish.  Below that seems to 
>>> be a jumble, mostly to do with completeness, originality, etc.  
>>> Although, no always.  Some have had motherboards upgraded to newer versions 
>>> and still gone for $2500.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I'm looking to move up.  My questions (and I realize this is 
>>> all
>>> opinion):
>>> 
>>> 
>

RE: Apple II Rev 2 value?

[Brad]

I had a closer look at the Rev 2.  The keyboard is non functional (all the keys 
stick).  The ROMs are applesoft, not integer basic (it has a ram add on card 
too).  It powers up but nothing happens.  Would that still have us in the $2k 
range?  

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Corey Cohen
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 4:08 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts <cct...@classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: Apple II Rev 2 value?

Yep.  I have a spare blank datanetics PCB if you want to transfer your switches 
to a PCB which doesn't have repairs.  This is for the version with the separate 
encoder daughter board.  

Cheers,
Corey 

corey cohen
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> On Oct 30, 2015, at 2:11 PM, Corey Cohen <appleco...@optonline.net> wrote:
> 
> If the keyboard is a datanetics with the daughter board, I may have a spare 
> empty PCB if you want it to transfer your switches.  I'll check tonight. 
> 
> Where are you located?
> 
> It actually should be a silver supply.  I have a rev-4 with original silver 
> supply.   I elected to repair instead of replace my supply. 
> 
> So I would think about $1000 to 1500 when all together.  The big question is 
> that hole you mentioned was drilled into the case.  Can you be more specific? 
> That affects the value.  
> 
> Cheers,
> Corey
> 
> corey cohen
> uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ
> 
>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Brad <unclefal...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> My Rev 4 has an Apple Rev 4 board in it.  Basically I tossed the clone board 
>> and PSU and replaced with what should be the correct motherboard (w/integer 
>> basic ROMs) and I think PSU.  PSU seems to be a matter of debate, some have 
>> suggested to me it should be the silver A2M, others said it should be the 
>> gold 2+ style one I have in there now.  Not sure on that.  The keyboard is 
>> the original for sure, but I had to do some trace repair on it using short 
>> jumper wires.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Corey Cohen
>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 9:45 AM
>> To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts <cct...@classiccmp.org>
>> Cc: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts 
>> <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
>> Subject: Re: Apple II Rev 2 value?
>> 
>> Well your rev-4 setup isn't going to be worth top dollar because of the 
>> condition and clone motherboard, you don't mention if it's the original 
>> datanetics keyboard and if the powersupply is the original one.  Infact it 
>> may only be worth a couple of hundred dollars or less.   
>> 
>> Basically the answers to those questions determine if you are simply selling 
>> a case or a case with extras.  Notice I didn't say you are selling a Rev4 
>> Apple II because the motherboard is missing.  
>> 
>> Also depending on the hole that was drilled also that can impact the value a 
>> lot for a case since people looking for a case want a good condition one. 
>> 
>> Answer those questions and we will give you a good idea. 
>> 
>> As for the Rev 2.  In the condition explained I'd expect maybe 2k.  btw.  
>> Rev 0 are going for more 3k if they are in complete condition.  Most aren't. 
>>  They tend to have replacement parts like supply or keyboard.  If the 
>> motherboard is replaced they are just a case.   
>> 
>> Also with anything timing is important, if a person is looking at the time, 
>> they may spend more than if no one is looking at that specific time.  I have 
>> seen eBay auctions sometimes too late and kicked my self how low something 
>> went for.   You just never know.  
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Corey
>> 
>> corey cohen
>> uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ
>> 
>>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 5:36 PM, Brad <unclefal...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a rev 4 Apple II in the 38000 s/n range.  I'm hoping to, over 
>>> the years, gradually trade my way up to a Rev 0.  I've seen Rev 0 
>>> units go on ebay recently for around $3000ish.  Below that seems to 
>>> be a jumble, mostly to do with completeness, originality, etc.  
>>> Although, no always.  Some have had motherboards upgraded to newer versions 
>>> and still gone for $2500.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I'm looking to move up.  My questions (and I realize this is 
>>> all
>>> opinion):
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 1)  What would my Apple II rev 4 be worth?  Again it's serial number is
>>> in the 38000 range, black label.  It was in France and had its 
>>> origin

Re: Apple II Rev 2 value?

[Corey Cohen]

Yep.  I have a spare blank datanetics PCB if you want to transfer your switches 
to a PCB which doesn't have repairs.  This is for the version with the separate 
encoder daughter board.  

Cheers,
Corey 

corey cohen
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> On Oct 30, 2015, at 2:11 PM, Corey Cohen <appleco...@optonline.net> wrote:
> 
> If the keyboard is a datanetics with the daughter board, I may have a spare 
> empty PCB if you want it to transfer your switches.  I'll check tonight. 
> 
> Where are you located?
> 
> It actually should be a silver supply.  I have a rev-4 with original silver 
> supply.   I elected to repair instead of replace my supply. 
> 
> So I would think about $1000 to 1500 when all together.  The big question is 
> that hole you mentioned was drilled into the case.  Can you be more specific? 
> That affects the value.  
> 
> Cheers,
> Corey 
> 
> corey cohen
> uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ
> 
>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Brad <unclefal...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> My Rev 4 has an Apple Rev 4 board in it.  Basically I tossed the clone board 
>> and PSU and replaced with what should be the correct motherboard (w/integer 
>> basic ROMs) and I think PSU.  PSU seems to be a matter of debate, some have 
>> suggested to me it should be the silver A2M, others said it should be the 
>> gold 2+ style one I have in there now.  Not sure on that.  The keyboard is 
>> the original for sure, but I had to do some trace repair on it using short 
>> jumper wires.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Corey Cohen
>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 9:45 AM
>> To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts <cct...@classiccmp.org>
>> Cc: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
>> Subject: Re: Apple II Rev 2 value?
>> 
>> Well your rev-4 setup isn't going to be worth top dollar because of the 
>> condition and clone motherboard, you don't mention if it's the original 
>> datanetics keyboard and if the powersupply is the original one.  Infact it 
>> may only be worth a couple of hundred dollars or less.   
>> 
>> Basically the answers to those questions determine if you are simply selling 
>> a case or a case with extras.  Notice I didn't say you are selling a Rev4 
>> Apple II because the motherboard is missing.  
>> 
>> Also depending on the hole that was drilled also that can impact the value a 
>> lot for a case since people looking for a case want a good condition one. 
>> 
>> Answer those questions and we will give you a good idea. 
>> 
>> As for the Rev 2.  In the condition explained I'd expect maybe 2k.  btw.  
>> Rev 0 are going for more 3k if they are in complete condition.  Most aren't. 
>>  They tend to have replacement parts like supply or keyboard.  If the 
>> motherboard is replaced they are just a case.   
>> 
>> Also with anything timing is important, if a person is looking at the time, 
>> they may spend more than if no one is looking at that specific time.  I have 
>> seen eBay auctions sometimes too late and kicked my self how low something 
>> went for.   You just never know.  
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Corey 
>> 
>> corey cohen
>> uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ
>> 
>>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 5:36 PM, Brad <unclefal...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a rev 4 Apple II in the 38000 s/n range.  I'm hoping to, over 
>>> the years, gradually trade my way up to a Rev 0.  I've seen Rev 0 
>>> units go on ebay recently for around $3000ish.  Below that seems to be 
>>> a jumble, mostly to do with completeness, originality, etc.  Although, 
>>> no always.  Some have had motherboards upgraded to newer versions and still 
>>> gone for $2500.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I'm looking to move up.  My questions (and I realize this is 
>>> all
>>> opinion):
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 1)  What would my Apple II rev 4 be worth?  Again it's serial number is
>>> in the 38000 range, black label.  It was in France and had its 
>>> original board replaced with a clone board, and some customization 
>>> including a small switch for power that was drilled into the back of 
>>> the case was done.  I have installed a Rev 4 board with Integer Basic 
>>> chips.  I also did some repairs on the keyboard and it is fully 
>>> functional, but the repairs involved a couple of jumper wires to deal with 
>>> bad traces.
>>> 
>>> 2)  What would you be willing to pay for a 12000 range s/n Rev 2 that is
>>> in so/so  condition, some rusty chip legs and non-functional keyboard?  
>>> Is a Rev 2 anything special?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
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Re: Apple II Rev 2 value?

[Corey Cohen]

Sticking keys are normal if it's a datanetics keyboard (original).  You can 
recover the switches usually by flushing then with 91% ISP and lots of 
mechanical motion.   I usually pull the key cap off and use a needle nose 
pliers about 50 times on each switch flushing it every so often using the ISP 
in an eye dropper.Even if there is a key or two you can't recover they can 
be found for about $10-15 each every so often on eBay.  

A set of Integer Roms on a language card will cost you about $150.  

Just remember when you usually see these early Apple II up for sale they 
usually aren't working correctly.  Keep that in mind when you research prices.  
Early Apple II are like Rev-0 and Rev-1 ALTAIR, people usually don't sell them 
in perfect working condition unless you had some .  So easier to buy one 
with potential and get to running.  

Cheers,
Corey

corey cohen
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> On Oct 31, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Brad <unclefal...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> 
> I had a closer look at the Rev 2.  The keyboard is non functional (all the 
> keys stick).  The ROMs are applesoft, not integer basic (it has a ram add on 
> card too).  It powers up but nothing happens.  Would that still have us in 
> the $2k range?  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Corey Cohen
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 4:08 AM
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts <cct...@classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: Apple II Rev 2 value?
> 
> Yep.  I have a spare blank datanetics PCB if you want to transfer your 
> switches to a PCB which doesn't have repairs.  This is for the version with 
> the separate encoder daughter board.  
> 
> Cheers,
> Corey 
> 
> corey cohen
> uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ
> 
>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 2:11 PM, Corey Cohen <appleco...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> 
>> If the keyboard is a datanetics with the daughter board, I may have a spare 
>> empty PCB if you want it to transfer your switches.  I'll check tonight. 
>> 
>> Where are you located?
>> 
>> It actually should be a silver supply.  I have a rev-4 with original silver 
>> supply.   I elected to repair instead of replace my supply. 
>> 
>> So I would think about $1000 to 1500 when all together.  The big question is 
>> that hole you mentioned was drilled into the case.  Can you be more 
>> specific? That affects the value.  
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Corey
>> 
>> corey cohen
>> uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ
>> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Brad <unclefal...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My Rev 4 has an Apple Rev 4 board in it.  Basically I tossed the clone 
>>> board and PSU and replaced with what should be the correct motherboard 
>>> (w/integer basic ROMs) and I think PSU.  PSU seems to be a matter of 
>>> debate, some have suggested to me it should be the silver A2M, others said 
>>> it should be the gold 2+ style one I have in there now.  Not sure on that.  
>>> The keyboard is the original for sure, but I had to do some trace repair on 
>>> it using short jumper wires.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of 
>>> Corey Cohen
>>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 9:45 AM
>>> To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts <cct...@classiccmp.org>
>>> Cc: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts 
>>> <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Apple II Rev 2 value?
>>> 
>>> Well your rev-4 setup isn't going to be worth top dollar because of the 
>>> condition and clone motherboard, you don't mention if it's the original 
>>> datanetics keyboard and if the powersupply is the original one.  Infact it 
>>> may only be worth a couple of hundred dollars or less.   
>>> 
>>> Basically the answers to those questions determine if you are simply 
>>> selling a case or a case with extras.  Notice I didn't say you are selling 
>>> a Rev4 Apple II because the motherboard is missing.  
>>> 
>>> Also depending on the hole that was drilled also that can impact the value 
>>> a lot for a case since people looking for a case want a good condition one. 
>>> 
>>> Answer those questions and we will give you a good idea. 
>>> 
>>> As for the Rev 2.  In the condition explained I'd expect maybe 2k.  btw.  
>>> Rev 0 are going for more 3k if they are in complete condition.  Most 
>>> aren't.  They tend to have replacement parts like supply or keyboard.  If 
>>> the motherboard is replaced they are just a case.   
>>> 
>>> Also with anything timi

Re: Apple II Rev 2 value?

[Corey Cohen]

If the keyboard is a datanetics with the daughter board, I may have a spare 
empty PCB if you want it to transfer your switches.  I'll check tonight. 

Where are you located?

It actually should be a silver supply.  I have a rev-4 with original silver 
supply.   I elected to repair instead of replace my supply. 

So I would think about $1000 to 1500 when all together.  The big question is 
that hole you mentioned was drilled into the case.  Can you be more specific? 
That affects the value.  

Cheers,
Corey 

corey cohen
uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Brad <unclefal...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> 
> My Rev 4 has an Apple Rev 4 board in it.  Basically I tossed the clone board 
> and PSU and replaced with what should be the correct motherboard (w/integer 
> basic ROMs) and I think PSU.  PSU seems to be a matter of debate, some have 
> suggested to me it should be the silver A2M, others said it should be the 
> gold 2+ style one I have in there now.  Not sure on that.  The keyboard is 
> the original for sure, but I had to do some trace repair on it using short 
> jumper wires.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Corey Cohen
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 9:45 AM
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts <cct...@classiccmp.org>
> Cc: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: Apple II Rev 2 value?
> 
> Well your rev-4 setup isn't going to be worth top dollar because of the 
> condition and clone motherboard, you don't mention if it's the original 
> datanetics keyboard and if the powersupply is the original one.  Infact it 
> may only be worth a couple of hundred dollars or less.   
> 
> Basically the answers to those questions determine if you are simply selling 
> a case or a case with extras.  Notice I didn't say you are selling a Rev4 
> Apple II because the motherboard is missing.  
> 
> Also depending on the hole that was drilled also that can impact the value a 
> lot for a case since people looking for a case want a good condition one. 
> 
> Answer those questions and we will give you a good idea. 
> 
> As for the Rev 2.  In the condition explained I'd expect maybe 2k.  btw.  Rev 
> 0 are going for more 3k if they are in complete condition.  Most aren't.  
> They tend to have replacement parts like supply or keyboard.  If the 
> motherboard is replaced they are just a case.   
> 
> Also with anything timing is important, if a person is looking at the time, 
> they may spend more than if no one is looking at that specific time.  I have 
> seen eBay auctions sometimes too late and kicked my self how low something 
> went for.   You just never know.  
> 
> Cheers,
> Corey 
> 
> corey cohen
> uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ
> 
>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 5:36 PM, Brad <unclefal...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> I have a rev 4 Apple II in the 38000 s/n range.  I'm hoping to, over 
>> the years, gradually trade my way up to a Rev 0.  I've seen Rev 0 
>> units go on ebay recently for around $3000ish.  Below that seems to be 
>> a jumble, mostly to do with completeness, originality, etc.  Although, 
>> no always.  Some have had motherboards upgraded to newer versions and still 
>> gone for $2500.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Anyway, I'm looking to move up.  My questions (and I realize this is 
>> all
>> opinion):
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 1)  What would my Apple II rev 4 be worth?  Again it's serial number is
>> in the 38000 range, black label.  It was in France and had its 
>> original board replaced with a clone board, and some customization 
>> including a small switch for power that was drilled into the back of 
>> the case was done.  I have installed a Rev 4 board with Integer Basic 
>> chips.  I also did some repairs on the keyboard and it is fully 
>> functional, but the repairs involved a couple of jumper wires to deal with 
>> bad traces.
>> 
>> 2)  What would you be willing to pay for a 12000 range s/n Rev 2 that is
>> in so/so  condition, some rusty chip legs and non-functional keyboard?  
>> Is a Rev 2 anything special?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks!
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Re: Apple II Rev 2 value?

[Corey Cohen]

Well your rev-4 setup isn't going to be worth top dollar because of the 
condition and clone motherboard, you don't mention if it's the original 
datanetics keyboard and if the powersupply is the original one.  Infact it may 
only be worth a couple of hundred dollars or less.   

Basically the answers to those questions determine if you are simply selling a 
case or a case with extras.  Notice I didn't say you are selling a Rev4 Apple 
II because the motherboard is missing.  

Also depending on the hole that was drilled also that can impact the value a 
lot for a case since people looking for a case want a good condition one. 

Answer those questions and we will give you a good idea. 

As for the Rev 2.  In the condition explained I'd expect maybe 2k.  btw.  Rev 0 
are going for more 3k if they are in complete condition.  Most aren't.  They 
tend to have replacement parts like supply or keyboard.  If the motherboard is 
replaced they are just a case.   

Also with anything timing is important, if a person is looking at the time, 
they may spend more than if no one is looking at that specific time.  I have 
seen eBay auctions sometimes too late and kicked my self how low something went 
for.   You just never know.  

Cheers,
Corey 

corey cohen
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> On Oct 29, 2015, at 5:36 PM, Brad  wrote:
> 
> I have a rev 4 Apple II in the 38000 s/n range.  I'm hoping to, over the
> years, gradually trade my way up to a Rev 0.  I've seen Rev 0 units go on
> ebay recently for around $3000ish.  Below that seems to be a jumble, mostly
> to do with completeness, originality, etc.  Although, no always.  Some have
> had motherboards upgraded to newer versions and still gone for $2500.
> 
> 
> 
> Anyway, I'm looking to move up.  My questions (and I realize this is all
> opinion):
> 
> 
> 
> 1)  What would my Apple II rev 4 be worth?  Again it's serial number is
> in the 38000 range, black label.  It was in France and had its original
> board replaced with a clone board, and some customization including a small
> switch for power that was drilled into the back of the case was done.  I
> have installed a Rev 4 board with Integer Basic chips.  I also did some
> repairs on the keyboard and it is fully functional, but the repairs involved
> a couple of jumper wires to deal with bad traces.
> 
> 2)  What would you be willing to pay for a 12000 range s/n Rev 2 that is
> in so/so  condition, some rusty chip legs and non-functional keyboard?  Is a
> Rev 2 anything special?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

RE: Apple II Rev 2 value?

[Brad]

My Rev 4 has an Apple Rev 4 board in it.  Basically I tossed the clone board 
and PSU and replaced with what should be the correct motherboard (w/integer 
basic ROMs) and I think PSU.  PSU seems to be a matter of debate, some have 
suggested to me it should be the silver A2M, others said it should be the gold 
2+ style one I have in there now.  Not sure on that.  The keyboard is the 
original for sure, but I had to do some trace repair on it using short jumper 
wires.

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Subject: Re: Apple II Rev 2 value?

Well your rev-4 setup isn't going to be worth top dollar because of the 
condition and clone motherboard, you don't mention if it's the original 
datanetics keyboard and if the powersupply is the original one.  Infact it may 
only be worth a couple of hundred dollars or less.   

Basically the answers to those questions determine if you are simply selling a 
case or a case with extras.  Notice I didn't say you are selling a Rev4 Apple 
II because the motherboard is missing.  

Also depending on the hole that was drilled also that can impact the value a 
lot for a case since people looking for a case want a good condition one. 

Answer those questions and we will give you a good idea. 

As for the Rev 2.  In the condition explained I'd expect maybe 2k.  btw.  Rev 0 
are going for more 3k if they are in complete condition.  Most aren't.  They 
tend to have replacement parts like supply or keyboard.  If the motherboard is 
replaced they are just a case.   

Also with anything timing is important, if a person is looking at the time, 
they may spend more than if no one is looking at that specific time.  I have 
seen eBay auctions sometimes too late and kicked my self how low something went 
for.   You just never know.  

Cheers,
Corey 

corey cohen
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> On Oct 29, 2015, at 5:36 PM, Brad <unclefal...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> 
> I have a rev 4 Apple II in the 38000 s/n range.  I'm hoping to, over 
> the years, gradually trade my way up to a Rev 0.  I've seen Rev 0 
> units go on ebay recently for around $3000ish.  Below that seems to be 
> a jumble, mostly to do with completeness, originality, etc.  Although, 
> no always.  Some have had motherboards upgraded to newer versions and still 
> gone for $2500.
> 
> 
> 
> Anyway, I'm looking to move up.  My questions (and I realize this is 
> all
> opinion):
> 
> 
> 
> 1)  What would my Apple II rev 4 be worth?  Again it's serial number is
> in the 38000 range, black label.  It was in France and had its 
> original board replaced with a clone board, and some customization 
> including a small switch for power that was drilled into the back of 
> the case was done.  I have installed a Rev 4 board with Integer Basic 
> chips.  I also did some repairs on the keyboard and it is fully 
> functional, but the repairs involved a couple of jumper wires to deal with 
> bad traces.
> 
> 2)  What would you be willing to pay for a 12000 range s/n Rev 2 that is
> in so/so  condition, some rusty chip legs and non-functional keyboard?  
> Is a Rev 2 anything special?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Apple II Rev 2 value?

[Brad]

I have a rev 4 Apple II in the 38000 s/n range.  I'm hoping to, over the
years, gradually trade my way up to a Rev 0.  I've seen Rev 0 units go on
ebay recently for around $3000ish.  Below that seems to be a jumble, mostly
to do with completeness, originality, etc.  Although, no always.  Some have
had motherboards upgraded to newer versions and still gone for $2500.

 

Anyway, I'm looking to move up.  My questions (and I realize this is all
opinion):

 

1)  What would my Apple II rev 4 be worth?  Again it's serial number is
in the 38000 range, black label.  It was in France and had its original
board replaced with a clone board, and some customization including a small
switch for power that was drilled into the back of the case was done.  I
have installed a Rev 4 board with Integer Basic chips.  I also did some
repairs on the keyboard and it is fully functional, but the repairs involved
a couple of jumper wires to deal with bad traces.

2)  What would you be willing to pay for a 12000 range s/n Rev 2 that is
in so/so  condition, some rusty chip legs and non-functional keyboard?  Is a
Rev 2 anything special?

 

Thanks!