Re: Astounding Asking Price

2018-10-29 Thread Holm Tiffe via cctalk
Adrian Graham via cctalk wrote:

>  >It looks nice externally, and it has the pedestal, which is nice, but the
> >seller has not even give the spec or posted pics of the innards and it is
> >"untested". At that price I would expect a bit more information..
> 
> Instant alarm bells to me are a seller posting a London address but the
> item is 'for pickup only in Budapest, Hungary'
> 

I'm pretty sure there is nothing wrong with them, I (as a german)
have only positive experiences with people from Hungary.
Hungary is EU like Germany and UK is still EU.. that makes it possible
to buy and sell w/o any customs, only the shipping costs may be higher.
You can place your stuff in the best market you think..that's all.

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RE: Astounding Asking Price

2018-10-24 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote:

> > Instant alarm bells to me are a seller posting a London address but the 
> > item is
> > 'for pickup only in Budapest, Hungary'
> 
> Yes I noticed that too. Very odd, and £750 to ship to the UK!!

 They just chose to pay taxes in the UK and/or to fall under the UK 
jurisdiction, which is one of the benefits of the single EU market for 
businesses.  It's not uncommon and there are various reasons to do that, 
generally to lower the cost and/or the risk of running a business.  It's 
just like many US companies are registered in the state of Delaware even 
though they really run their business elsewhere.

 If you look through their store, you'll find other items whose price and 
postage are both reasonable, so it just could be an oddball case of 
getting the asking price wrong.  I guess you can always ask them if they 
really mean it.  Also it starts getting tricky to ship individual items 
abroad from/to many places once you get above 20kg (~44lbs), and they say 
it (indirectly) in the description, stating that they'll use your carrier 
of choice.

 FWIW,

  Maciej


RE: Astounding Asking Price

2018-10-24 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
Sadly this is on the wrong side of the pond. I would like to repair the one I 
have in any case.

 

In fact, while I think I know the pinout of the F11 chips from a KDF11-A 
printset, can anyone confirm that pin 23 of the DIL package is the RESET 
signal? If that is correct then it is oscillating and resetting the machine 
constantly. I am trying to trace the source, but it seems to go through quite a 
few chips and I haven’t yet traced its source.

 

Regards

 

Rob

 

From: Warner Losh [mailto:i...@bsdimp.com] 
Sent: 24 October 2018 21:23
To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; Rob Jarratt ; General 
Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts 
Subject: Re: Astounding Asking Price

 

 

On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 2:20 PM Warner Losh mailto:i...@bsdimp.com> > wrote:

 

On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:53 AM Rob Jarratt via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org> > wrote:

My jaw dropped when I saw this:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223201002247?ul_noapp=true



It looks nice externally, and it has the pedestal, which is nice, but the
seller has not even give the spec or posted pics of the innards and it is
"untested". At that price I would expect a bit more information..



As it happens, I am trying to fix my 350 at the moment.

 

Untested Pro 350's are like US$150-US$250 range on ebay typically.

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-DIGITAL-EQUIPMENT-CORP-DEC-RAINBOW-PC350-I-COMPUTER-FLOPPY-DISK/332562279306?epid=583415379
 
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-DIGITAL-EQUIPMENT-CORP-DEC-RAINBOW-PC350-I-COMPUTER-FLOPPY-DISK/332562279306?epid=583415379&hash=item4d6e41ab8a:g:qR0AAOSw9NBafMjq:sc:FedExHomeDelivery!80602!US!-1:rk:1:pf:1&frcectupt=true>
 
&hash=item4d6e41ab8a:g:qR0AAOSw9NBafMjq:sc:FedExHomeDelivery!80602!US!-1:rk:1:pf:1&frcectupt=true

 

OK, not really a Rainbow, but that's the term to search for if you want to buy 
one cheap. This one is $99.

 

Warner



Re: Astounding Asking Price

2018-10-24 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 2:20 PM Warner Losh  wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:53 AM Rob Jarratt via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>> My jaw dropped when I saw this:
>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223201002247?ul_noapp=true
>>
>>
>>
>> It looks nice externally, and it has the pedestal, which is nice, but the
>> seller has not even give the spec or posted pics of the innards and it is
>> "untested". At that price I would expect a bit more information..
>>
>>
>>
>> As it happens, I am trying to fix my 350 at the moment.
>>
>
> Untested Pro 350's are like US$150-US$250 range on ebay typically.
>

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-DIGITAL-EQUIPMENT-CORP-DEC-RAINBOW-PC350-I-COMPUTER-FLOPPY-DISK/332562279306?epid=583415379&hash=item4d6e41ab8a:g:qR0AAOSw9NBafMjq:sc:FedExHomeDelivery!80602!US!-1:rk:1:pf:1&frcectupt=true

OK, not really a Rainbow, but that's the term to search for if you want to
buy one cheap. This one is $99.

Warner


Re: Astounding Asking Price

2018-10-24 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:53 AM Rob Jarratt via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> My jaw dropped when I saw this:
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223201002247?ul_noapp=true
>
>
>
> It looks nice externally, and it has the pedestal, which is nice, but the
> seller has not even give the spec or posted pics of the innards and it is
> "untested". At that price I would expect a bit more information..
>
>
>
> As it happens, I am trying to fix my 350 at the moment.
>

Untested Pro 350's are like US$150-US$250 range on ebay typically.

Warner


Re: Astounding Asking Price

2018-10-24 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk



> On Oct 24, 2018, at 11:53 AM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> My jaw dropped when I saw this:
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223201002247?ul_noapp=true
> 
> It looks nice externally, and it has the pedestal, which is nice, but the
> seller has not even give the spec or posted pics of the innards and it is
> "untested". At that price I would expect a bit more information..

That's about the list price of that machine when it was new.  For today, it 
makes no sense at all.

paul



RE: Astounding Asking Price

2018-10-24 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk



> -Original Message-
> From: Adrian Graham [mailto:binarydinosa...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 24 October 2018 17:00
> To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; Jarratt RMA ; General
> Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts 
> Subject: Re: Astounding Asking Price
> 
> >It looks nice externally, and it has the pedestal, which is nice, but the
> >seller has not even give the spec or posted pics of the innards and it is
> >"untested". At that price I would expect a bit more information..
> 
> Instant alarm bells to me are a seller posting a London address but the item 
> is
> 'for pickup only in Budapest, Hungary'
> 

Yes I noticed that too. Very odd, and £750 to ship to the UK!!


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> w: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk
> 
> 
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 16:53, Rob Jarratt via cctalk 
> wrote:
> My jaw dropped when I saw this:
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223201002247?ul_noapp=true
> 
> 
> 
> It looks nice externally, and it has the pedestal, which is nice, but the
> seller has not even give the spec or posted pics of the innards and it is
> "untested". At that price I would expect a bit more information..
> 
> 
> 
> As it happens, I am trying to fix my 350 at the moment.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> 
> Rob



Re: Astounding Asking Price

2018-10-24 Thread Geoffrey Oltmans via cctalk
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 10:53 AM Rob Jarratt via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> My jaw dropped when I saw this:
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223201002247?ul_noapp=true
>
>
>
> It looks nice externally, and it has the pedestal, which is nice, but the
> seller has not even give the spec or posted pics of the innards and it is
> "untested". At that price I would expect a bit more information..
>
>
>
> As it happens, I am trying to fix my 350 at the moment.
>
>
>
Would it make you feel bad if I told you I threw away a perfectly good 350
with the pedestal as pictured in the early 90s? ;)


Re: Astounding Asking Price

2018-10-24 Thread Adrian Graham via cctalk
 >It looks nice externally, and it has the pedestal, which is nice, but the
>seller has not even give the spec or posted pics of the innards and it is
>"untested". At that price I would expect a bit more information..

Instant alarm bells to me are a seller posting a London address but the
item is 'for pickup only in Budapest, Hungary'

-- 
adrian/witchy
Owner of Binary Dinosaurs, the UK's biggest home computer collection?
t: @binarydinosaursf: facebook.com/binarydinosaurs
w: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk


On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 16:53, Rob Jarratt via cctalk 
wrote:

> My jaw dropped when I saw this:
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223201002247?ul_noapp=true
>
>
>
> It looks nice externally, and it has the pedestal, which is nice, but the
> seller has not even give the spec or posted pics of the innards and it is
> "untested". At that price I would expect a bit more information..
>
>
>
> As it happens, I am trying to fix my 350 at the moment.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Rob
>
>


Astounding Asking Price

2018-10-24 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
My jaw dropped when I saw this:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223201002247?ul_noapp=true

 

It looks nice externally, and it has the pedestal, which is nice, but the
seller has not even give the spec or posted pics of the innards and it is
"untested". At that price I would expect a bit more information..

 

As it happens, I am trying to fix my 350 at the moment.

 

Regards

 

Rob