Re: Did DEC make a Daisy Wheel printer?

[Doug Ingraham via cctalk]

On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Electronics Plus via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I had some DEC branded daisy wheel printers years ago, but they are long
> gone now. There was also an LA75 and and LA210, IIRC.
>
> Cindy
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> >> On 10/08/2017 10:19 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
> >>>> Did DEC make any sort of impact printer, besides dot-matrix
> printers?  I have an LA50 or two, and dot-matrix isn’t what I’m after.
> >>>
> DEC sold a number of printers of varying speeds.  I think they may all
> have been drum printers, but there may have been a band or train printer,
> too.  these were all based on mechanisms made by other outfits, with DEC
> controller and branding.  But, not a lot of installations bought them, as
> DEC added a premium to the price. I've only seen the real DEC printers in
> advertising and handbook photos.
>
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I have a DEC branded daisy wheel printer.  I think it is a Diablo 1620.  It
was part of a ClassIC which is an 8/a with RX-01 and VT terminal of some
type in a desk with a chair.  This one had the daisy wheel printer and a
DECwriter.  I have not looked closely at the printer mechanism.  The
DECwriter is in pretty bad shape but I have the 8/a and RX-01 running
(mostly).  The original desk and chair are going to be refurbished next.

What is the purpose of the query?

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Doug Ingraham
PDP-8 SN 1175

RE: Did DEC make a Daisy Wheel printer?

[Electronics Plus via cctalk]

I had some DEC branded daisy wheel printers years ago, but they are long gone 
now. There was also an LA75 and and LA210, IIRC.

Cindy

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>> On 10/08/2017 10:19 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>>>> Did DEC make any sort of impact printer, besides dot-matrix printers?  I 
>>>> have an LA50 or two, and dot-matrix isn’t what I’m after.
>>>
DEC sold a number of printers of varying speeds.  I think they may all have 
been drum printers, but there may have been a band or train printer, too.  
these were all based on mechanisms made by other outfits, with DEC controller 
and branding.  But, not a lot of installations bought them, as DEC added a 
premium to the price. I've only seen the real DEC printers in advertising and 
handbook photos.

jon


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Re: Did DEC make a Daisy Wheel printer?

[Jon Elson via cctalk]

On 10/08/2017 10:19 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:

Did DEC make any sort of impact printer, besides dot-matrix printers?  I have 
an LA50 or two, and dot-matrix isn’t what I’m after.


DEC sold a number of printers of varying speeds.  I think 
they may all have been drum printers, but there may have 
been a band or train printer, too.  these were all based on 
mechanisms made by other outfits, with DEC controller and 
branding.  But, not a lot of installations bought them, as 
DEC added a premium to the price. I've only seen the real 
DEC printers in advertising and handbook photos.


jon

Re: Did DEC make a Daisy Wheel printer?

[Rod Smallwood via cctalk]

On 10/10/2017 07:50, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote:

On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:


Did DEC make any sort of impact printer, besides dot-matrix printers?  I
have an LA50 or two, and dot-matrix isn’t what I’m after.


They sold some drum, chain, and band printers, but I think they were all
OEM'd.  Late examples were the LP25, LP26, and LP27/LP29. Note that some
system-specific printer subsystems (e.g., LP11-xx, LP20-xx, and LP32-xx)
contained printers with their own separate designations.

As far as I recall, the only printer mechanisms DEC made themselves were
dot matrix impact or electrolytic.  Of course, they also OEM'd some
dot-matrix printers, including the LA50 and LA75.

I remember seeing the LA-36 Production Line at Westfield in 1975.
They made them by the 1000. When I sold them my MOQ was 500.

Rod

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Wanted one pdp-8/i rocker switch leaver to copy.

Re: Did DEC make a Daisy Wheel printer?

[Eric Smith via cctalk]

On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Did DEC make any sort of impact printer, besides dot-matrix printers?  I
> have an LA50 or two, and dot-matrix isn’t what I’m after.
>

They sold some drum, chain, and band printers, but I think they were all
OEM'd.  Late examples were the LP25, LP26, and LP27/LP29. Note that some
system-specific printer subsystems (e.g., LP11-xx, LP20-xx, and LP32-xx)
contained printers with their own separate designations.

As far as I recall, the only printer mechanisms DEC made themselves were
dot matrix impact or electrolytic.  Of course, they also OEM'd some
dot-matrix printers, including the LA50 and LA75.

Re: Did DEC make a Daisy Wheel printer?

[Adrian Graham via cctalk]

> On 8 Oct 2017, at 19:00, Jon Elson via cctalk  wrote:
> 
> On 10/08/2017 12:31 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
>> On 10/08/2017 10:19 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>>> Did DEC make any sort of impact printer, besides dot-matrix printers?  I 
>>> have an LA50 or two, and dot-matrix isn’t what I’m after.
>> You mean like the LQP03 or LQP45?   I don't know if DEC made the basic
>> mechanism, however.
>> 
>> --Chuck
>> 
>> 
> I'm sure DEC did NOT make the actual wheel motor assembly.  Qume and Diablo 
> were the two biggies in that arena.
> Probably because of patents and copyrights, you couldn't just make compatible 
> daisy wheel font wheels, either.

Well yes, it was a Qume 1220. DEC didn’t make an awful lot of stuff outside of 
the actual PDP/VAX area.

A

Re: Did DEC make a Daisy Wheel printer?

[allison via cctalk]

On 10/08/2017 01:19 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
> Did DEC make any sort of impact printer, besides dot-matrix printers?  I have 
> an LA50 or two, and dot-matrix isn’t what I’m after.
>
> Zane
>
>
LQP 01 and the 02 as well, Diablo daisy wheel...

Then there the LP 25,26,27 band printers.

So yes just a few.

Re: Did DEC make a Daisy Wheel printer?

[Zane Healy via cctalk]

> On Oct 9, 2017, at 7:33 AM, Jules Richardson via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 10/08/2017 12:27 PM, Adrian Graham via cctalk wrote:
>> My brain is telling me LQP02 so yes, a daisywheel. I’ve not seen one for
>> 30 years or so though.
> 
> I think the last time I saw one would have been around 25 years ago, when I 
> threw mine away :-(  It took up too much space for the interest level, and 
> hardware was so plentiful back then that I always thought there would  be 
> lots of them around forever.
> 
> Jules

Sadly, what I’m seeing is the availability is about Zero, additionally that 
appears to be the availability of the ink ribbons.  Oh, well, it was an insane 
idea anyway.

Zane

Re: Did DEC make a Daisy Wheel printer?

[Jules Richardson via cctalk]

On 10/08/2017 12:27 PM, Adrian Graham via cctalk wrote:

My brain is telling me LQP02 so yes, a daisywheel. I’ve not seen one for
30 years or so though.


I think the last time I saw one would have been around 25 years ago, when I 
threw mine away :-(  It took up too much space for the interest level, and 
hardware was so plentiful back then that I always thought there would  be 
lots of them around forever.


Jules

Re: Did DEC make a Daisy Wheel printer?

[Rod Smallwood via cctalk]

LQP02



On 08/10/2017 18:19, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:

Did DEC make any sort of impact printer, besides dot-matrix printers?  I have 
an LA50 or two, and dot-matrix isn’t what I’m after.

Zane




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Wanted one pdp-8/i rocker switch leaver to copy.

Re: Did DEC make a Daisy Wheel printer?

[william degnan via cctalk]

> > I'm sure DEC did NOT make the actual wheel motor assembly.  Qume and
Diablo were the two biggies in that arena.
> > Probably because of patents and copyrights, you couldn't just make
compatible daisy wheel font wheels, either.
> >
> > Jon
>

I had once a dec - branded  OEM Diablo, I still have a Commodore IEE OEM
Diablo printer, I have seen others.

Bill

Re: Did DEC make a Daisy Wheel printer?

[Zane Healy via cctalk]

> On Oct 8, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> On 10/08/2017 12:31 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
>> On 10/08/2017 10:19 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>>> Did DEC make any sort of impact printer, besides dot-matrix printers?  I 
>>> have an LA50 or two, and dot-matrix isn’t what I’m after.
>> You mean like the LQP03 or LQP45?   I don't know if DEC made the basic
>> mechanism, however.
>> 
>> --Chuck
>> 
>> 
> I'm sure DEC did NOT make the actual wheel motor assembly.  Qume and Diablo 
> were the two biggies in that arena.
> Probably because of patents and copyrights, you couldn't just make compatible 
> daisy wheel font wheels, either.
> 
> Jon

The one thing I googled up said that the printer the person was repairing had a 
Qume mechanism in it.

Zane

Re: Did DEC make a Daisy Wheel printer?

[Jon Elson via cctalk]

On 10/08/2017 12:31 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:

On 10/08/2017 10:19 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:

Did DEC make any sort of impact printer, besides dot-matrix printers?  I have 
an LA50 or two, and dot-matrix isn’t what I’m after.

You mean like the LQP03 or LQP45?   I don't know if DEC made the basic
mechanism, however.

--Chuck


I'm sure DEC did NOT make the actual wheel motor assembly.  
Qume and Diablo were the two biggies in that arena.
Probably because of patents and copyrights, you couldn't 
just make compatible daisy wheel font wheels, either.


Jon

Re: Did DEC make a Daisy Wheel printer?

[Ed via cctalk]

Yea... so   DEC  sold them... but  the  mech   was  oem  diablio?
 
 
In a message dated 10/8/2017 10:51:39 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:


our  printers  -- daisywheel type --  on  wps-8system   had a diablio 
mech as I remember... 
Ed#   _www.smec.org_ (http://www.smec.org) 



In a message dated  10/8/2017 10:35:55 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,   
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:


>  On Oct 8, 2017, at  10:31 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk  
  wrote:
> 
> On 10/08/2017 10:19 AM,  Zane Healy via cctalk  wrote:
>> Did DEC make any sort of impact  printer, besides  dot-matrix printers?  
I have an LA50 or two, and  dot-matrix  isn’t what I’m after.
> 
> You mean like the LQP03 or   LQP45?   I don't know if DEC made the basic
> mechanism,   however.
> 
> --Chuck
> 

Yes, that and the LQP02  that  Adrian just mentioned will get me pointed in 
the right   direction.

Zane

Re: Did DEC make a Daisy Wheel printer?

[Ed via cctalk]

our printers  -- daisywheel type --  on  wps-8   system   had a diablio 
mech as I remember... 
Ed#  _www.smec.org_ (http://www.smec.org) 
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/8/2017 10:35:55 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:


>  On Oct 8, 2017, at 10:31 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk  
 wrote:
> 
> On 10/08/2017 10:19 AM,  Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>> Did DEC make any sort of impact  printer, besides dot-matrix printers?  
I have an LA50 or two, and  dot-matrix isn’t what I’m after.
> 
> You mean like the LQP03 or  LQP45?   I don't know if DEC made the basic
> mechanism,  however.
> 
> --Chuck
> 

Yes, that and the LQP02 that  Adrian just mentioned will get me pointed in 
the right  direction.

Zane

Re: Did DEC make a Daisy Wheel printer?

[Zane Healy via cctalk]

> On Oct 8, 2017, at 10:31 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> On 10/08/2017 10:19 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>> Did DEC make any sort of impact printer, besides dot-matrix printers?  I 
>> have an LA50 or two, and dot-matrix isn’t what I’m after.
> 
> You mean like the LQP03 or LQP45?   I don't know if DEC made the basic
> mechanism, however.
> 
> --Chuck
> 

Yes, that and the LQP02 that Adrian just mentioned will get me pointed in the 
right direction.

Zane

Re: Did DEC make a Daisy Wheel printer?

[Chuck Guzis via cctalk]

On 10/08/2017 10:19 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
> Did DEC make any sort of impact printer, besides dot-matrix printers?  I have 
> an LA50 or two, and dot-matrix isn’t what I’m after.

You mean like the LQP03 or LQP45?   I don't know if DEC made the basic
mechanism, however.

--Chuck

Re: Did DEC make a Daisy Wheel printer?

[Adrian Graham via cctalk]

> On 8 Oct 2017, at 18:19, Zane Healy via cctalk  wrote:
> 
> Did DEC make any sort of impact printer, besides dot-matrix printers?  I have 
> an LA50 or two, and dot-matrix isn’t what I’m after.

My brain is telling me LQP02 so yes, a daisywheel. I’ve not seen one for 30 
years or so though.


—
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs - Celebrating Computing History from 1972 onwards

Did DEC make a Daisy Wheel printer?

[Zane Healy via cctalk]

Did DEC make any sort of impact printer, besides dot-matrix printers?  I have 
an LA50 or two, and dot-matrix isn’t what I’m after.

Zane