Re: Digression - Ah Yes!! The PDP-10
On 10/25/17 5:18 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctech wrote: -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Robert Adamson via cctalk Sent: 25 October 2017 20:56 To: cct...@classiccmp.org Subject: Digression - Ah Yes!! The PDP-10 Beginning of the 70's I was using a pdp-10 at TSL (Time Sharing Limited, UK) over a phone line writing logic simulation software in Fortran. Remember it fondly, especially the number of times I needed to redial in and try to reconnect to my session. Still smell the teletype. Cost about £10 for the 20 seconds cpu-time or so just to compile the program!!! I used to use the DECSYSTEM-20 from a Teletype (until they got replaced by VDUs). That is why I really wanted a nice Model 33 ASR, which I now have. I sometimes connect it up to SIMH running TOPS-20 to relive the happiest part of my school days. Roll on a few years and I was actually at the console of a 10 at Smiths doing IC layout graphics interactively on their Lady Jane suite. What a great single-user machine! (and I still remember my username and password from TSL, typed it so often it burned in). My experience with DEC PDP-10 is 1970-71, the BOCES LIRCs system. A PDP01 and PDP-8I (the timeshare system from the year before). It was a timeshare system spanning two counties with over 300 highschool users. Actual loads ran from about 150 to as high as 300 where all the terminal lines and concentrater lines were in use. Most were 100baud though at the site there were 8 lines at as high as 4800. Spent my time as user and part time system monitor at the site. My favorite terminal then was a Hazeltine H1000 class TTY. The processor was the first version a KA10 with 64kwords of core initially and later 128K with an added 128K swapping drum. OS was TOPS 10. Really liked the machine and it was pretty to look at with the programmers console. Favorite core location to watch was 150Q. Allison
Re: Digression - Ah Yes!! The PDP-10
oddly there were times you could dial into a broken dec 10 connect and end up connected to someone elses session Ed# In a message dated 10/25/2017 2:18:30 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: > -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Robert > Adamson via cctalk > Sent: 25 October 2017 20:56 > To: cct...@classiccmp.org > Subject: Digression - Ah Yes!! The PDP-10 > > Beginning of the 70's I was using a pdp-10 at TSL (Time Sharing Limited, UK) > over a phone line writing logic simulation software in Fortran. Remember it > fondly, especially the number of times I needed to redial in and try to > reconnect to my session. Still smell the teletype. Cost about £10 for the 20 > seconds cpu-time or so just to compile the program!!! > I used to use the DECSYSTEM-20 from a Teletype (until they got replaced by VDUs). That is why I really wanted a nice Model 33 ASR, which I now have. I sometimes connect it up to SIMH running TOPS-20 to relive the happiest part of my school days. > Roll on a few years and I was actually at the console of a 10 at Smiths doing IC > layout graphics interactively on their Lady Jane suite. What a great single-user > machine! > > (and I still remember my username and password from TSL, typed it so often it > burned in). >
RE: Digression - Ah Yes!! The PDP-10
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Robert > Adamson via cctalk > Sent: 25 October 2017 20:56 > To: cct...@classiccmp.org > Subject: Digression - Ah Yes!! The PDP-10 > > Beginning of the 70's I was using a pdp-10 at TSL (Time Sharing Limited, UK) > over a phone line writing logic simulation software in Fortran. Remember it > fondly, especially the number of times I needed to redial in and try to > reconnect to my session. Still smell the teletype. Cost about £10 for the 20 > seconds cpu-time or so just to compile the program!!! > I used to use the DECSYSTEM-20 from a Teletype (until they got replaced by VDUs). That is why I really wanted a nice Model 33 ASR, which I now have. I sometimes connect it up to SIMH running TOPS-20 to relive the happiest part of my school days. > Roll on a few years and I was actually at the console of a 10 at Smiths doing IC > layout graphics interactively on their Lady Jane suite. What a great single-user > machine! > > (and I still remember my username and password from TSL, typed it so often it > burned in). >
Digression - Ah Yes!! The PDP-10
Beginning of the 70's I was using a pdp-10 at TSL (Time Sharing Limited, UK) over a phone line writing logic simulation software in Fortran. Remember it fondly, especially the number of times I needed to redial in and try to reconnect to my session. Still smell the teletype. Cost about £10 for the 20 seconds cpu-time or so just to compile the program!!! Roll on a few years and I was actually at the console of a 10 at Smiths doing IC layout graphics interactively on their Lady Jane suite. What a great single-user machine! (and I still remember my username and password from TSL, typed it so often it burned in). Bob > -Original Message- > Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 18:42:42 +0100 > From: "Rob Jarratt"> To: "'Dave Wade'" , "'General Discussion: > On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'" , "'Kip > Koon'" > > Subject: Re: Which Dec Emulation is the MOST useful and Versatile?. > Message-ID: <003101d34cef$7eca53c0$7c5efb40$@ntlworld.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Ah the PDP10! Although the very first computer I used was a PDP11, it > was so briefly that I really consider the PDP10 (in DECSYSTEM-20 form) > to be my first computer. It is easy to emulate in SIMH, although the > SIMH emulation is of a less capable processor (KS10) and I think KLH10 > is the best emulator for that (but I have never used it). > ... > > Rob