Re: HP-HIL keyboards with PS/2 connectors
In a message dated 8/26/2016 8:51:16 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, phb@gmail.com writes: On 2016-08-26 12:37 PM, Eric Christopherson wrote: > Years ago I bought two HP 9000/715s. I've barely done anything with them, > so I don't remember for sure if they even came with keyboards. That unit's > keyboards are supposed to be HP-HIL, and I know there was a breakout box to > use a PS/2 *connector* on such a keyboard; but I'm wondering about the > particulars of that. > > I have run across one HP keyboard in my stash, which has a PS/2 connector. > It only partially works on a PC -- certain keys don't register at all. What > I'd like to know is: is it certain that this is just a broken beige box PC > keyboard? The alternative I'm pondering is that it's really an HP-HIL > keyboard with a PS/2 connector that just coincidentally seems to partially > work on a PC. That's unlikely, I know, but I just want confirmation to rule > it out. > It is probably just a broken PC keyboard the communication protocols on PS/2 and HP-HIL are very different. and the HP HIL keyboad has a TOTALLY different connector also...
Re: HP-HIL keyboards with PS/2 connectors
and here are all the part numbers http://www.ambry.com/hp-computer-model/9000/715/64.html On 8/26/16 8:58 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > > > On 8/26/16 8:37 AM, Eric Christopherson wrote: >> Years ago I bought two HP 9000/715s. I've barely done anything with them, >> so I don't remember for sure if they even came with keyboards. That unit's >> keyboards are supposed to be HP-HIL, and I know there was a breakout box to >> use a PS/2 *connector* on such a keyboard; but I'm wondering about the >> particulars of that. >> >> I have run across one HP keyboard in my stash, which has a PS/2 connector. >> It only partially works on a PC -- certain keys don't register at all. What >> I'd like to know is: is it certain that this is just a broken beige box PC >> keyboard? The alternative I'm pondering is that it's really an HP-HIL >> keyboard with a PS/2 connector that just coincidentally seems to partially >> work on a PC. That's unlikely, I know, but I just want confirmation to rule >> it out. >> > > http://rescue.sunhelp.narkive.com/oV3C9nJx/hp-9000-715-keyboard-adapter-module > > The 715/(64/80/100) use standard PS/2 keyboards and mice. But there > wasn't enough room on the back of the machine for all the connectors. So > these machines come with a small box that has a HP-HIL, a PS/2 keyboard > and a PS/2 mouse connector on one side and is connected with a 10 pin > cable to the machine. There is no electronic in the box, it is just a > small break out box. > > The older 715/(33/50/75) are HIL only. They may look similar, but they > are quite different to the later 715/(64/80/100). (Different CPU and > chipset, IO bus, firmware...) >
Re: HP-HIL keyboards with PS/2 connectors
On 8/26/16 8:37 AM, Eric Christopherson wrote: > Years ago I bought two HP 9000/715s. I've barely done anything with them, > so I don't remember for sure if they even came with keyboards. That unit's > keyboards are supposed to be HP-HIL, and I know there was a breakout box to > use a PS/2 *connector* on such a keyboard; but I'm wondering about the > particulars of that. > > I have run across one HP keyboard in my stash, which has a PS/2 connector. > It only partially works on a PC -- certain keys don't register at all. What > I'd like to know is: is it certain that this is just a broken beige box PC > keyboard? The alternative I'm pondering is that it's really an HP-HIL > keyboard with a PS/2 connector that just coincidentally seems to partially > work on a PC. That's unlikely, I know, but I just want confirmation to rule > it out. > http://rescue.sunhelp.narkive.com/oV3C9nJx/hp-9000-715-keyboard-adapter-module The 715/(64/80/100) use standard PS/2 keyboards and mice. But there wasn't enough room on the back of the machine for all the connectors. So these machines come with a small box that has a HP-HIL, a PS/2 keyboard and a PS/2 mouse connector on one side and is connected with a 10 pin cable to the machine. There is no electronic in the box, it is just a small break out box. The older 715/(33/50/75) are HIL only. They may look similar, but they are quite different to the later 715/(64/80/100). (Different CPU and chipset, IO bus, firmware...)
Re: HP-HIL keyboards with PS/2 connectors
On 2016-08-26 12:37 PM, Eric Christopherson wrote: Years ago I bought two HP 9000/715s. I've barely done anything with them, so I don't remember for sure if they even came with keyboards. That unit's keyboards are supposed to be HP-HIL, and I know there was a breakout box to use a PS/2 *connector* on such a keyboard; but I'm wondering about the particulars of that. I have run across one HP keyboard in my stash, which has a PS/2 connector. It only partially works on a PC -- certain keys don't register at all. What I'd like to know is: is it certain that this is just a broken beige box PC keyboard? The alternative I'm pondering is that it's really an HP-HIL keyboard with a PS/2 connector that just coincidentally seems to partially work on a PC. That's unlikely, I know, but I just want confirmation to rule it out. It is probably just a broken PC keyboard the communication protocols on PS/2 and HP-HIL are very different.
HP-HIL keyboards with PS/2 connectors
Years ago I bought two HP 9000/715s. I've barely done anything with them, so I don't remember for sure if they even came with keyboards. That unit's keyboards are supposed to be HP-HIL, and I know there was a breakout box to use a PS/2 *connector* on such a keyboard; but I'm wondering about the particulars of that. I have run across one HP keyboard in my stash, which has a PS/2 connector. It only partially works on a PC -- certain keys don't register at all. What I'd like to know is: is it certain that this is just a broken beige box PC keyboard? The alternative I'm pondering is that it's really an HP-HIL keyboard with a PS/2 connector that just coincidentally seems to partially work on a PC. That's unlikely, I know, but I just want confirmation to rule it out. -- Eric Christopherson
