Re: ID these DEC floppy disks

2022-02-18 Thread Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk 

Thanks for that. My memory is now refreshed!

Nigel Johnson, MSc., MIEEE, MCSE VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU
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On 2022-02-18 07:51, Sytse van Slooten via cctalk wrote:

http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp11/xxdp/Turnbull_XXDP_Feb93.pdf  


This doc gives an overview of the naming.

The leading C means PDP-11, but is not used in the file names on the xxdp packs 
and floppies - you'll see it in the listings though.

Cheers
Sytse


On 18 Feb 2022, at 03:12, Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk  
wrote:

 From my (very stale) memory, FWIW

DEC Diagnostic file names were configured thus:

First Letter - machine they run on.  ones I remember:  Z=all Unibus, 
V=LSI-11(18-bit), J=11/73(22-bit) etc.  Strangely, I seem to remember that C 
represented 11/45, but maybe they changed the scheme at one point. I got into 
sales and management with Emulex after the 11/73A!  Or perhaps the letter C was 
prepended as a media type and the rest follows the pattern

Second and third letters, the system part they were designed for.  Strangely, 
VMSxxx would be memory tests for the LSI-11, nothing to do with VMS/

Fourth letter was the actual diagnostic name if more than one for each part.

Fifth and sixth letters were major and minor rev levels.

So really the names were only unique to four positions.

When running them, I would usually only type the first four letters followed by 
two question marks.

So maybe ZUF and ZXD were amalgamations of various tests!

Or maybe they changed the scheme :-)

cheers,

Nigel


Nigel Johnson, MSc., MIEEE, MCSE VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU
Amateur Radio, the origin of the open-source concept!
Skype:tilbury2591nw.john...@ieee.org



On 2022-02-17 20:26, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote:

On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 4:28 PM Chris Zach via cctalk
   wrote:

Hey all!

While going through floppies I found these and was wondering what they
were. Only clue in Google was someone asking in 1997 same thing.

BL-T540B-M1 CZUFDB1 USER TESTS
BL-T541B-M1 CZXD1B1 FIELD SERVICE TESTS 1
BL-T542B-MC CZXD2B0 FIELD SERVICE TESTS 2
BL-T565B-MC CZXD3B0 FIELD SERVICE TESTS 3
BL-T583B-MC CZXD4B0 FIELD SERVICE TESTS 4

Any ideas? The first one does not have a write protect tab, the others
do. There is also one other disk I found

CZMX4E0 Micro 11 Maint RX50 4

On this one the write protect flag was torn off (was on from factory and
removed)

My guess is that these are Micro-11 diagnostic test disks, as
mentioned in Section 5.7 USER TEST DISKETTES, on Page 5-12, of this
manual:
MicroPDP-11 Systems Technical Manual, EK-MIC11-TM-002
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp11/microPDP11/EK-MIC11-TM-002_MicroPDP11_Systems_Technical_Manual_Sep85.pdf

These possibly related tests are listed as being included as part of
the XXDP distribution on page A-22 of the PDP-11 Diagnostic Handbook,
1988
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp11/xxdp/PDP11_DiagnosticHandbook_1988.pdf

ZUFlEO.BINMICRO-11 USER TEST #1
ZUF2EO.BINMICRO-11 USER TEST #2
ZUF3AO.BINMICRO-11 USER TEST #3
ZUF4AO.BINMICRO-11 USER TEST #4

If you have the ability to create ImageDsk images of these disks it
might be interesting to take a look at them.

Re: ID these DEC floppy disks

2022-02-18 Thread Sytse van Slooten via cctalk 
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp11/xxdp/Turnbull_XXDP_Feb93.pdf 


This doc gives an overview of the naming.

The leading C means PDP-11, but is not used in the file names on the xxdp packs 
and floppies - you'll see it in the listings though.

Cheers
Sytse

> On 18 Feb 2022, at 03:12, Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> From my (very stale) memory, FWIW
> 
> DEC Diagnostic file names were configured thus:
> 
> First Letter - machine they run on.  ones I remember:  Z=all Unibus, 
> V=LSI-11(18-bit), J=11/73(22-bit) etc.  Strangely, I seem to remember that C 
> represented 11/45, but maybe they changed the scheme at one point. I got into 
> sales and management with Emulex after the 11/73A!  Or perhaps the letter C 
> was prepended as a media type and the rest follows the pattern
> 
> Second and third letters, the system part they were designed for.  Strangely, 
> VMSxxx would be memory tests for the LSI-11, nothing to do with VMS/
> 
> Fourth letter was the actual diagnostic name if more than one for each part.
> 
> Fifth and sixth letters were major and minor rev levels.
> 
> So really the names were only unique to four positions.
> 
> When running them, I would usually only type the first four letters followed 
> by two question marks.
> 
> So maybe ZUF and ZXD were amalgamations of various tests!
> 
> Or maybe they changed the scheme :-)
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Nigel
> 
> 
> Nigel Johnson, MSc., MIEEE, MCSE VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU
> Amateur Radio, the origin of the open-source concept!
> Skype:  tilbury2591nw.john...@ieee.org
> 
> 
> 
> On 2022-02-17 20:26, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 4:28 PM Chris Zach via cctalk
>>   wrote:
>>> Hey all!
>>> 
>>> While going through floppies I found these and was wondering what they
>>> were. Only clue in Google was someone asking in 1997 same thing.
>>> 
>>> BL-T540B-M1 CZUFDB1 USER TESTS
>>> BL-T541B-M1 CZXD1B1 FIELD SERVICE TESTS 1
>>> BL-T542B-MC CZXD2B0 FIELD SERVICE TESTS 2
>>> BL-T565B-MC CZXD3B0 FIELD SERVICE TESTS 3
>>> BL-T583B-MC CZXD4B0 FIELD SERVICE TESTS 4
>>> 
>>> Any ideas? The first one does not have a write protect tab, the others
>>> do. There is also one other disk I found
>>> 
>>> CZMX4E0 Micro 11 Maint RX50 4
>>> 
>>> On this one the write protect flag was torn off (was on from factory and
>>> removed)
>> My guess is that these are Micro-11 diagnostic test disks, as
>> mentioned in Section 5.7 USER TEST DISKETTES, on Page 5-12, of this
>> manual:
>> MicroPDP-11 Systems Technical Manual, EK-MIC11-TM-002
>> http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp11/microPDP11/EK-MIC11-TM-002_MicroPDP11_Systems_Technical_Manual_Sep85.pdf
>> 
>> These possibly related tests are listed as being included as part of
>> the XXDP distribution on page A-22 of the PDP-11 Diagnostic Handbook,
>> 1988
>> http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp11/xxdp/PDP11_DiagnosticHandbook_1988.pdf
>> 
>> ZUFlEO.BINMICRO-11 USER TEST #1
>> ZUF2EO.BINMICRO-11 USER TEST #2
>> ZUF3AO.BINMICRO-11 USER TEST #3
>> ZUF4AO.BINMICRO-11 USER TEST #4
>> 
>> If you have the ability to create ImageDsk images of these disks it
>> might be interesting to take a look at them.

Re: ID these DEC floppy disks

2022-02-17 Thread Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk 

From my (very stale) memory, FWIW

DEC Diagnostic file names were configured thus:

First Letter - machine they run on.  ones I remember:  Z=all Unibus, 
V=LSI-11(18-bit), J=11/73(22-bit) etc.  Strangely, I seem to remember 
that C represented 11/45, but maybe they changed the scheme at one 
point. I got into sales and management with Emulex after the 11/73A!  Or 
perhaps the letter C was prepended as a media type and the rest follows 
the pattern


Second and third letters, the system part they were designed for.  
Strangely, VMSxxx would be memory tests for the LSI-11, nothing to do 
with VMS/


Fourth letter was the actual diagnostic name if more than one for each part.

Fifth and sixth letters were major and minor rev levels.

So really the names were only unique to four positions.

When running them, I would usually only type the first four letters 
followed by two question marks.


So maybe ZUF and ZXD were amalgamations of various tests!

Or maybe they changed the scheme :-)

cheers,

Nigel


Nigel Johnson, MSc., MIEEE, MCSE VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU
Amateur Radio, the origin of the open-source concept!
Skype:  tilbury2591nw.john...@ieee.org



On 2022-02-17 20:26, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote:

On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 4:28 PM Chris Zach via cctalk
  wrote:

Hey all!

While going through floppies I found these and was wondering what they
were. Only clue in Google was someone asking in 1997 same thing.

BL-T540B-M1 CZUFDB1 USER TESTS
BL-T541B-M1 CZXD1B1 FIELD SERVICE TESTS 1
BL-T542B-MC CZXD2B0 FIELD SERVICE TESTS 2
BL-T565B-MC CZXD3B0 FIELD SERVICE TESTS 3
BL-T583B-MC CZXD4B0 FIELD SERVICE TESTS 4

Any ideas? The first one does not have a write protect tab, the others
do. There is also one other disk I found

CZMX4E0 Micro 11 Maint RX50 4

On this one the write protect flag was torn off (was on from factory and
removed)

My guess is that these are Micro-11 diagnostic test disks, as
mentioned in Section 5.7 USER TEST DISKETTES, on Page 5-12, of this
manual:
MicroPDP-11 Systems Technical Manual, EK-MIC11-TM-002
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp11/microPDP11/EK-MIC11-TM-002_MicroPDP11_Systems_Technical_Manual_Sep85.pdf

These possibly related tests are listed as being included as part of
the XXDP distribution on page A-22 of the PDP-11 Diagnostic Handbook,
1988
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp11/xxdp/PDP11_DiagnosticHandbook_1988.pdf

ZUFlEO.BINMICRO-11 USER TEST #1
ZUF2EO.BINMICRO-11 USER TEST #2
ZUF3AO.BINMICRO-11 USER TEST #3
ZUF4AO.BINMICRO-11 USER TEST #4

If you have the ability to create ImageDsk images of these disks it
might be interesting to take a look at them.

Re: ID these DEC floppy disks

2022-02-17 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk 
On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 4:28 PM Chris Zach via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> Hey all!
>
> While going through floppies I found these and was wondering what they
> were. Only clue in Google was someone asking in 1997 same thing.
>
> BL-T540B-M1 CZUFDB1 USER TESTS
> BL-T541B-M1 CZXD1B1 FIELD SERVICE TESTS 1
> BL-T542B-MC CZXD2B0 FIELD SERVICE TESTS 2
> BL-T565B-MC CZXD3B0 FIELD SERVICE TESTS 3
> BL-T583B-MC CZXD4B0 FIELD SERVICE TESTS 4
>
> Any ideas? The first one does not have a write protect tab, the others
> do. There is also one other disk I found
>
> CZMX4E0 Micro 11 Maint RX50 4
>
> On this one the write protect flag was torn off (was on from factory and
> removed)

My guess is that these are Micro-11 diagnostic test disks, as
mentioned in Section 5.7 USER TEST DISKETTES, on Page 5-12, of this
manual:
MicroPDP-11 Systems Technical Manual, EK-MIC11-TM-002
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp11/microPDP11/EK-MIC11-TM-002_MicroPDP11_Systems_Technical_Manual_Sep85.pdf

These possibly related tests are listed as being included as part of
the XXDP distribution on page A-22 of the PDP-11 Diagnostic Handbook,
1988
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp11/xxdp/PDP11_DiagnosticHandbook_1988.pdf

ZUFlEO.BINMICRO-11 USER TEST #1
ZUF2EO.BINMICRO-11 USER TEST #2
ZUF3AO.BINMICRO-11 USER TEST #3
ZUF4AO.BINMICRO-11 USER TEST #4

If you have the ability to create ImageDsk images of these disks it
might be interesting to take a look at them.

ID these DEC floppy disks

2022-02-17 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk 

Hey all!

While going through floppies I found these and was wondering what they 
were. Only clue in Google was someone asking in 1997 same thing.


BL-T540B-M1 CZUFDB1 USER TESTS
BL-T541B-M1 CZXD1B1 FIELD SERVICE TESTS 1
BL-T542B-MC CZXD2B0 FIELD SERVICE TESTS 2
BL-T565B-MC CZXD3B0 FIELD SERVICE TESTS 3
BL-T583B-MC CZXD4B0 FIELD SERVICE TESTS 4

Any ideas? The first one does not have a write protect tab, the others 
do. There is also one other disk I found


CZMX4E0 Micro 11 Maint RX50 4

On this one the write protect flag was torn off (was on from factory and 
removed)


C