Re: Is this a new record?

2021-04-27 Thread Ian Finder via cctalk
Hi,

I'm the guy who got the PERQ 1 keyboard from Chris for a $100 donation.

Since I got @'ed here, I felt the need to state:

1) The PERQ 1 KB is foam and foil, and isn't a space cadet full of wild
keys, so I don't think the keyboard collectors are after them for BIG
MONEY.
(Which is great, I wish they all were undesirable.) It's rather nasty
vacuum form and I'd be surprised to find out the keyboarders want 'em.

2) I've re-foiled it

3) To defend my honor I feel the need to clarify that I've attached it to a
*REAL PERQ 1* which is otherwise complete. No USB, raspberry PIs, etc.

4) I can provide any reference info on it to folks who need.

Thx,

~ I

On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 6:04 AM Chris Zach via cctalk 
wrote:

> Oh weird. Who did I send that keyboard to then. Oh, Ian. I did send it
> to him with the request he dump the ROMs and such so other people can
> build replicas, I'd say reach out to him.
>
> Josh: Do you need a Perq1 or Perq2 keyboard. I have a pair of P2
> keybards but then again I also have a pair of Perq2's in addition to one
> Perq1 and a second Perq1 shell with just the disk drive.
>
> It's finally (a) warming up and (b) people getting vaccinated so maybe I
> can get some help this summer removing more of that stuff. The Microvax
> 3400 is not going to go up the steps easily...
>
> C
>
> On 4/23/2021 12:22 AM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 4/22/2021 7:30 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> >> On 4/22/21 5:08 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:
> >>> Jesus, I just traded a Perq1 keyboard to a guy for a $100 donation to
> >>> a food bank of his choice.
> >>
> >> josh dersch is looking for a keyboard and a monitor
> >>
> > He already chimed in.  His search also triggered as soon as it was
> > posted.  Up to 4900 in first hour.  Ridiculous.
> >
> > One has to wonder for these two (another keyboard maybe a month ago)
> > where the machines are these are "liberated" from, or if the actual
> > owners are missing them.
> >
> > thanks
> > Jim
>


Re: Is this a new record?

2021-04-23 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 4:20 PM Josh Dersch via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/164815576309
>
> $9570 for a keyboard.

There were several retracted bids around $5,500, $9,000, and $10,000
which were retracted immediately after they were placed. I wonder if
that was bidders placing high bids just to probe what the current high
bidder upper limit was before retracting their probe bid. That's one
of the reasons why it isn't the best idea to place your true high bid
early, and instead wait until the very end.


Re: Is this a new record?

2021-04-23 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Oh weird. Who did I send that keyboard to then. Oh, Ian. I did send it 
to him with the request he dump the ROMs and such so other people can 
build replicas, I'd say reach out to him.


Josh: Do you need a Perq1 or Perq2 keyboard. I have a pair of P2 
keybards but then again I also have a pair of Perq2's in addition to one 
Perq1 and a second Perq1 shell with just the disk drive.


It's finally (a) warming up and (b) people getting vaccinated so maybe I 
can get some help this summer removing more of that stuff. The Microvax 
3400 is not going to go up the steps easily...


C

On 4/23/2021 12:22 AM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:



On 4/22/2021 7:30 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:

On 4/22/21 5:08 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:
Jesus, I just traded a Perq1 keyboard to a guy for a $100 donation to 
a food bank of his choice.


josh dersch is looking for a keyboard and a monitor

He already chimed in.  His search also triggered as soon as it was 
posted.  Up to 4900 in first hour.  Ridiculous.


One has to wonder for these two (another keyboard maybe a month ago) 
where the machines are these are "liberated" from, or if the actual 
owners are missing them.


thanks
Jim


Re: Is this a new record?

2021-04-23 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 7:33 PM Chris Zach via cctalk 
wrote:

> Not anymore. I still need to figure out if/how to get the big monitor
> out, but the little one is safe, as are two digitizers (one complete), a
> mouse thing, and a keyboard.
>

I am still on the hunt for a PERQ keyboard and display for a unit I
recently acquired, though it's far from urgent.


>
> And so many floppies. Oi.
>

If you need help imaging them, I'm happy to share the load.

- Josh



>
> C
>
>
> On 4/22/2021 10:30 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> > On 4/22/21 5:08 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:
> >> Jesus, I just traded a Perq1 keyboard to a guy for a $100 donation to
> >> a food bank of his choice.
> >
> > josh dersch is looking for a keyboard and a monitor
>


Re: Is this a new record?

2021-04-22 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
> $9570 for a keyboard.

Insanity! Is it gold plated?


On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 12:22 PM jim stephens via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

>
>
> On 4/22/2021 7:30 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> > On 4/22/21 5:08 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:
> >> Jesus, I just traded a Perq1 keyboard to a guy for a $100 donation to
> >> a food bank of his choice.
> >
> > josh dersch is looking for a keyboard and a monitor
> >
> He already chimed in.  His search also triggered as soon as it was
> posted.  Up to 4900 in first hour.  Ridiculous.
>
> One has to wonder for these two (another keyboard maybe a month ago)
> where the machines are these are "liberated" from, or if the actual
> owners are missing them.
>
> thanks
> Jim
>


Re: Is this a new record?

2021-04-22 Thread jim stephens via cctalk




On 4/22/2021 7:30 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:

On 4/22/21 5:08 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:
Jesus, I just traded a Perq1 keyboard to a guy for a $100 donation to 
a food bank of his choice.


josh dersch is looking for a keyboard and a monitor

He already chimed in.  His search also triggered as soon as it was 
posted.  Up to 4900 in first hour.  Ridiculous.


One has to wonder for these two (another keyboard maybe a month ago) 
where the machines are these are "liberated" from, or if the actual 
owners are missing them.


thanks
Jim


Re: Is this a new record?

2021-04-22 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Not anymore. I still need to figure out if/how to get the big monitor 
out, but the little one is safe, as are two digitizers (one complete), a 
mouse thing, and a keyboard.


And so many floppies. Oi.

C


On 4/22/2021 10:30 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:

On 4/22/21 5:08 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:
Jesus, I just traded a Perq1 keyboard to a guy for a $100 donation to 
a food bank of his choice.


josh dersch is looking for a keyboard and a monitor


Re: Is this a new record?

2021-04-22 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk

On 4/22/21 5:08 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:

Jesus, I just traded a Perq1 keyboard to a guy for a $100 donation to a food 
bank of his choice.


josh dersch is looking for a keyboard and a monitor


Re: Is this a new record?

2021-04-22 Thread Richard Pope via cctalk

Chuck and et al,
I just showed this to a friend of mine. She sent me a one word 
reply: 'Stupid'. I have to agree.

GOD Bless and Thanks,
rich!

On 4/22/2021 8:31 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:

On 4/22/21 5:13 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:

On Apr 22, 2021, at 5:08 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk  
wrote:

Jesus, I just traded a Perq1 keyboard to a guy for a $100 donation to a food 
bank of his choice. What is it with keyboards lately?

That’s a really good question.  Are they being used for emulators?  If so, I 
can sort of understand this.

The reason I have a DEC VT420 sitting next to my desk is so that I can have the 
appropriate keyboard, when I need it.  It uses LAT to talk to PDP-10, PDP-11, 
VAX, and Alpha systems (mostly emulated these days).

I’ve been seriously considering a Honeywell terminal, for accessing my Multics 
system (I have used the VT420).

As far as I can tell, they're being hacked to use as gaming keyboards.
  At least the IBM beam-spring ones seem to be.

Makes little sense to me.

--Chuck






Re: Is this a new record?

2021-04-22 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 4/22/21 5:13 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
> On Apr 22, 2021, at 5:08 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk  
> wrote:
>>
>> Jesus, I just traded a Perq1 keyboard to a guy for a $100 donation to a food 
>> bank of his choice. What is it with keyboards lately?
> 
> That’s a really good question.  Are they being used for emulators?  If so, I 
> can sort of understand this.
> 
> The reason I have a DEC VT420 sitting next to my desk is so that I can have 
> the appropriate keyboard, when I need it.  It uses LAT to talk to PDP-10, 
> PDP-11, VAX, and Alpha systems (mostly emulated these days).
> 
> I’ve been seriously considering a Honeywell terminal, for accessing my 
> Multics system (I have used the VT420).

As far as I can tell, they're being hacked to use as gaming keyboards.
 At least the IBM beam-spring ones seem to be.

Makes little sense to me.

--Chuck



Re: Is this a new record?

2021-04-22 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
On Apr 22, 2021, at 5:08 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk  
wrote:
> 
> Jesus, I just traded a Perq1 keyboard to a guy for a $100 donation to a food 
> bank of his choice. What is it with keyboards lately?

That’s a really good question.  Are they being used for emulators?  If so, I 
can sort of understand this.

The reason I have a DEC VT420 sitting next to my desk is so that I can have the 
appropriate keyboard, when I need it.  It uses LAT to talk to PDP-10, PDP-11, 
VAX, and Alpha systems (mostly emulated these days).

I’ve been seriously considering a Honeywell terminal, for accessing my Multics 
system (I have used the VT420).

Zane





Re: Is this a new record?

2021-04-22 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Jesus, I just traded a Perq1 keyboard to a guy for a $100 donation to a 
food bank of his choice. What is it with keyboards lately?


C

On 4/22/2021 7:36 PM, geneb via cctalk wrote:

On Thu, 22 Apr 2021, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote:


https://www.ebay.com/itm/164815576309

$9570 for a keyboard.

As much as I'd like to find a keyboard for my Lambda's second head, I
somehow doubt that's going to happen.  And now I think I need to go 
find a

really, really (really) safe place to keep the keyboard I *do* have...



I really hope that whomever bought it is going to mate it with an 
orphaned Lisp Machine.  Otherwise they belong in a shallow, unmarked grave.


g.



Re: Is this a new record?

2021-04-22 Thread geneb via cctalk

On Thu, 22 Apr 2021, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote:


https://www.ebay.com/itm/164815576309

$9570 for a keyboard.

As much as I'd like to find a keyboard for my Lambda's second head, I
somehow doubt that's going to happen.  And now I think I need to go find a
really, really (really) safe place to keep the keyboard I *do* have...



I really hope that whomever bought it is going to mate it with an orphaned 
Lisp Machine.  Otherwise they belong in a shallow, unmarked grave.


g.

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Re: Is this a new record?

2021-04-22 Thread Guy Sotomayor via cctalk
I have a number of keyboards that folks of this ilk like (several 
Symbolics keyboards and a number of 3278/9 keyboards). Fortunately, 
they're all connected to respective machines.


I did see that someone (on ebay) had taken an APL 3278 keyboard and 
converted it to USB!  Grr.  These people make me mad.


On 4/22/21 4:19 PM, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/164815576309

$9570 for a keyboard.

As much as I'd like to find a keyboard for my Lambda's second head, I
somehow doubt that's going to happen.  And now I think I need to go find a
really, really (really) safe place to keep the keyboard I *do* have...

- Josh


--
TTFN - Guy



Is this a new record?

2021-04-22 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
https://www.ebay.com/itm/164815576309

$9570 for a keyboard.

As much as I'd like to find a keyboard for my Lambda's second head, I
somehow doubt that's going to happen.  And now I think I need to go find a
really, really (really) safe place to keep the keyboard I *do* have...

- Josh