RE: Mitsubishi Melcard (edge connect type)

2021-04-11 Thread D. Resor via cctalk
After digging a bit further and disassembling a card I have here which was 
defective and peeling apart.  I now know that this is a Seiko-Epson not a 
Mitsubishi Melcard.  Seiko-Epson are 40 Contact Traces.  Mitsubishi are 50 
Contact Traces.  I also found a data sheet from the p/n silk screened on the 
PWB of the card here:

https://www.datasheetarchive.com/pdf/download.php?id=11082c69f543ba2dc23ee78386ce2ce49debd2=O=EPC032IEC0

Thanks for giving me a shove in the right direction.

Don Resor

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I don't know.  I do know that Roland also used something similar though the 
length of some of the contact points are different from the Mitsubishi Melcard.

Don Resor

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Subject: Re: Mitsubishi Melcard (edge connect type)

Isnt that the epson card standard?

Enviado do meu Tele-Movel

Em dom, 11 de abr de 2021 14:37, Chuck Guzis via cctalk < 
cctalk@classiccmp.org> escreveu:

> On 4/11/21 7:08 AM, D. Resor via cctalk wrote:
> > Does anyone recall what kind of hardware/software was used to 
> > read/write
> the
> > early Mitsubishi Melcard EPROM cards with the PCB edge connector
> contacts?
> >
> >  It was explained to me by someone that a EPROM programmer could be 
> > used, however I've never seen a socket which fits the edge card 
> > connector of
> these
> > cards.
>
> I don't know if it's exactly what you're looking for, but there's a 
> potload of information on Bitsavers, starting with PDF page 115:
>
>
> http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/mitsubishi/Mitsubishi_VLSI_MOS_Memory_RAM
> _ROM_and_Memory_Cards_Jan91.pdf
>
> --Chuck
>
>




RE: Mitsubishi Melcard (edge connect type)

2021-04-11 Thread D. Resor via cctalk
I don't know.  I do know that Roland also used something similar though the 
length of some of the contact points are different from the Mitsubishi Melcard.

Don Resor

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From: cctalk  On Behalf Of Alexandre Souza via 
cctalk
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 10:38 AM
To: Chuck Guzis ; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic 
Posts 
Subject: Re: Mitsubishi Melcard (edge connect type)

Isnt that the epson card standard?

Enviado do meu Tele-Movel

Em dom, 11 de abr de 2021 14:37, Chuck Guzis via cctalk < 
cctalk@classiccmp.org> escreveu:

> On 4/11/21 7:08 AM, D. Resor via cctalk wrote:
> > Does anyone recall what kind of hardware/software was used to 
> > read/write
> the
> > early Mitsubishi Melcard EPROM cards with the PCB edge connector
> contacts?
> >
> >  It was explained to me by someone that a EPROM programmer could be 
> > used, however I've never seen a socket which fits the edge card 
> > connector of
> these
> > cards.
>
> I don't know if it's exactly what you're looking for, but there's a 
> potload of information on Bitsavers, starting with PDF page 115:
>
>
> http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/mitsubishi/Mitsubishi_VLSI_MOS_Memory_RAM
> _ROM_and_Memory_Cards_Jan91.pdf
>
> --Chuck
>
>



Re: Mitsubishi Melcard (edge connect type)

2021-04-11 Thread Alexandre Souza via cctalk
Isnt that the epson card standard?

Enviado do meu Tele-Movel

Em dom, 11 de abr de 2021 14:37, Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> escreveu:

> On 4/11/21 7:08 AM, D. Resor via cctalk wrote:
> > Does anyone recall what kind of hardware/software was used to read/write
> the
> > early Mitsubishi Melcard EPROM cards with the PCB edge connector
> contacts?
> >
> >  It was explained to me by someone that a EPROM programmer could be used,
> > however I've never seen a socket which fits the edge card connector of
> these
> > cards.
>
> I don't know if it's exactly what you're looking for, but there's a
> potload of information on Bitsavers, starting with PDF page 115:
>
>
> http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/mitsubishi/Mitsubishi_VLSI_MOS_Memory_RAM_ROM_and_Memory_Cards_Jan91.pdf
>
> --Chuck
>
>


Re: Mitsubishi Melcard (edge connect type)

2021-04-11 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 4/11/21 7:08 AM, D. Resor via cctalk wrote:
> Does anyone recall what kind of hardware/software was used to read/write the
> early Mitsubishi Melcard EPROM cards with the PCB edge connector contacts?
> 
>  It was explained to me by someone that a EPROM programmer could be used,
> however I've never seen a socket which fits the edge card connector of these
> cards.

I don't know if it's exactly what you're looking for, but there's a
potload of information on Bitsavers, starting with PDF page 115:

http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/mitsubishi/Mitsubishi_VLSI_MOS_Memory_RAM_ROM_and_Memory_Cards_Jan91.pdf

--Chuck



Mitsubishi Melcard (edge connect type)

2021-04-11 Thread D. Resor via cctalk
Does anyone recall what kind of hardware/software was used to read/write the
early Mitsubishi Melcard EPROM cards with the PCB edge connector contacts?

 It was explained to me by someone that a EPROM programmer could be used,
however I've never seen a socket which fits the edge card connector of these
cards.

I've uploaded an image of the edge contact end of this type of card here:

http://www.hammondorganservice.com/downloads/images/melcard.jpg 

Seems these were also available in the SRAM variety as well.

Thanks
Don Resor