Re: Morrow 8" disk image CP/M uploaded
On 05/09/2017 09:56 PM, william degnan via cctech wrote: > Hi, > > I was contacted though my site by someone looking for a boot disk for their > California Computer System S-100 2200 computer with Morrow's Disk Jockey > DJ/DMA floppy disk controller. I checked and found what might be a > suitable disk. > > I imaged the disk and the file has been uploaded to my web site along with > a PDF of the directory the original owner printed and inserted into the > disk sleeve. Does anyone have such a drive controller and would like to > take a look at this image to see if it's usable? Uploaded, here: > > http://vintagecomputer.net/disk_images/Morrow/ > > There may be something wrong with the disk. The label reads > 8" Morrow E14 Phil's System Disk Backup 9/22/86 > Permanent error on boot track > > Despite what was printed on the lable I was able to image the disk without > error. I am hoping the error referred to in the hand-written label is not > a physical error and can be edited/corrected. Maybe this disk is > salvageable, maybe the error is a BIOs thing. > > There was talk about trying to find a diskJockey boot disk on this list a > few weeks ago (right?), if so I hope this is useful. If anyone attempts to > read, let me know how it goes. > > Bill > As you have found out the system tracks (the first two tracks/cylinders) on the media are very system specific. It can be perfect but wrong controller and it will not boot or it can even be the right controller but wrong serial ports then it boots but can't communicate. FYI the CCS system CPU board (IF CCS) has a good monitor on the board and can do a fair amount of stuff. IF he has the CCS IO board and disk controller life is easier as the DISK controller carries the boot code. bitsavers has manuals. If one has the sorurce for bios building a bootable disk is not terrible to do by hand. In that case the existing disk may be at least partially useful as CP/M (CCP and BDOS) is universal and only the bios is system specific. Allison
Re: Morrow 8" disk image CP/M uploaded
Hi, On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 11:31:21AM -0400, Mark G Thomas via cctalk wrote: > Hi Bill, > > On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 09:56:15PM -0400, william degnan via cctalk wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I was contacted though my site by someone looking for a boot disk for their > > California Computer System S-100 2200 computer with Morrow's Disk Jockey > > DJ/DMA floppy disk controller. I checked and found what might be a > > suitable disk. > > > > I imaged the disk and the file has been uploaded to my web site along with > > a PDF of the directory the original owner printed and inserted into the > > disk sleeve. Does anyone have such a drive controller and would like to > > take a look at this image to see if it's usable? Uploaded, here: > > > > http://vintagecomputer.net/disk_images/Morrow/ > > > > There may be something wrong with the disk. The label reads > > 8" Morrow E14 Phil's System Disk Backup 9/22/86 > > Permanent error on boot track > > > > Despite what was printed on the lable I was able to image the disk without > > error. I am hoping the error referred to in the hand-written label is not > > a physical error and can be edited/corrected. Maybe this disk is > > salvageable, maybe the error is a BIOs thing. > > > > There was talk about trying to find a diskJockey boot disk on this list a > > few weeks ago (right?), if so I hope this is useful. If anyone attempts to > > read, let me know how it goes. > > > > Bill > > There are at least two different versions of this controller, with different > ROM decode addresses. It's non-trivial to modify the card -- not just a jumper > and PROM to change. The boot disk is specific to which version of the > card. I have the earlier version of the card with the BIOS at E000H, and > have been meaning to try the images from Herb's disks. > > These cards are nice in that they include a serial port, so the provided > CP/M boot disk and CBIOS will boot up to a functional enough system > to further configure for specific hardware, solving the chicken and > egg problem with CP/M BIOS and hardware configuration. > > Newer versions of this card have BIOS at F800H, which Mike Loewen has > images for, which are probably good, for that version of the card. > It would be helpful if the person inquiring could determine which version > of the card they have. > > When I was working on this, I found manuals for both versions on Bitsavers > (I think), which should have enough info to match up with the card: > > 0xE000 Morrow Disk Jockey 2D Floppy Controller Users Manual 1980 rev2.pdf > 0xF800 Disk_Jockey_2_Model_B_Technical_Reference_Rev_1_Dec82.pdf > > Please feel free to put the person inquiring in contact with me. I'd like > to get mine booting, and may be able to help them do similarly. Sorry to follow up my own post, but I realized after I posted this that the DJ/DMA is a different product than the DJ/2D models I incorrectly responded about, so I don't have anything to offer here. -- Mark G. Thomas (m...@misty.com), KC3DRE
Re: Morrow 8" disk image CP/M uploaded
Hi Bill, On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 09:56:15PM -0400, william degnan via cctalk wrote: > Hi, > > I was contacted though my site by someone looking for a boot disk for their > California Computer System S-100 2200 computer with Morrow's Disk Jockey > DJ/DMA floppy disk controller. I checked and found what might be a > suitable disk. > > I imaged the disk and the file has been uploaded to my web site along with > a PDF of the directory the original owner printed and inserted into the > disk sleeve. Does anyone have such a drive controller and would like to > take a look at this image to see if it's usable? Uploaded, here: > > http://vintagecomputer.net/disk_images/Morrow/ > > There may be something wrong with the disk. The label reads > 8" Morrow E14 Phil's System Disk Backup 9/22/86 > Permanent error on boot track > > Despite what was printed on the lable I was able to image the disk without > error. I am hoping the error referred to in the hand-written label is not > a physical error and can be edited/corrected. Maybe this disk is > salvageable, maybe the error is a BIOs thing. > > There was talk about trying to find a diskJockey boot disk on this list a > few weeks ago (right?), if so I hope this is useful. If anyone attempts to > read, let me know how it goes. > > Bill There are at least two different versions of this controller, with different ROM decode addresses. It's non-trivial to modify the card -- not just a jumper and PROM to change. The boot disk is specific to which version of the card. I have the earlier version of the card with the BIOS at E000H, and have been meaning to try the images from Herb's disks. These cards are nice in that they include a serial port, so the provided CP/M boot disk and CBIOS will boot up to a functional enough system to further configure for specific hardware, solving the chicken and egg problem with CP/M BIOS and hardware configuration. Newer versions of this card have BIOS at F800H, which Mike Loewen has images for, which are probably good, for that version of the card. It would be helpful if the person inquiring could determine which version of the card they have. When I was working on this, I found manuals for both versions on Bitsavers (I think), which should have enough info to match up with the card: 0xE000 Morrow Disk Jockey 2D Floppy Controller Users Manual 1980 rev2.pdf 0xF800 Disk_Jockey_2_Model_B_Technical_Reference_Rev_1_Dec82.pdf Please feel free to put the person inquiring in contact with me. I'd like to get mine booting, and may be able to help them do similarly. Mark -- Mark G. Thomas (m...@misty.com), KC3DRE
Morrow 8" disk image CP/M uploaded
Hi, I was contacted though my site by someone looking for a boot disk for their California Computer System S-100 2200 computer with Morrow's Disk Jockey DJ/DMA floppy disk controller. I checked and found what might be a suitable disk. I imaged the disk and the file has been uploaded to my web site along with a PDF of the directory the original owner printed and inserted into the disk sleeve. Does anyone have such a drive controller and would like to take a look at this image to see if it's usable? Uploaded, here: http://vintagecomputer.net/disk_images/Morrow/ There may be something wrong with the disk. The label reads 8" Morrow E14 Phil's System Disk Backup 9/22/86 Permanent error on boot track Despite what was printed on the lable I was able to image the disk without error. I am hoping the error referred to in the hand-written label is not a physical error and can be edited/corrected. Maybe this disk is salvageable, maybe the error is a BIOs thing. There was talk about trying to find a diskJockey boot disk on this list a few weeks ago (right?), if so I hope this is useful. If anyone attempts to read, let me know how it goes. Bill
