Re: Old HP test equipment power connectors...

2015-05-28 Thread Tothwolf

On Thu, 28 May 2015, Jules Richardson wrote:

On 05/27/2015 04:18 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:

I did a little checking today--I compared a male 163-type receptacle 
with a C14 receptacle.  The mounting ear holes appear to have the same 
spacing; the C14 is about 3/4 thick, where the 163 (metal shell) is 
about 1/2 thickness, so you'd need to enlarge the mounting holes about 
1/8  on the top and bottom.


Aha, I'm not a fan of non-reversible mods if I've got an alternative.

I'm leaning toward the C5/6 connectors at the moment; I see the cables 
around once in a while, but I'm not sure about the availability of 
chassis-mount sockets (I expect they're generally PCB-mount).


Option 2 is to use a mounting plate with a grommet and simply have a 
permanently-attached power cable - separate power cables on things are 
just there to get lost anyway ;-)


I'll arrange a trip back to the site where some of the test equipment 
came from though as there may be a nest of the original cables there - 
the problem will be finding them, as it was a bit of a dumping ground 
for ancient tech.


Try these:

Schurter 0724 series:
  4300.0100 - solder terminals
  4300.0101 - pcb terminals

Schurter 2561 series:
  6160.0001 - solder terminals

Schurter 2562 series:
  6160.0002 - pcb terminals

http://www.schurter.com/Components/Connectors/Connectors-Inlets-Outlets

http://www.mouser.com/Connectors/Power-Connectors/AC-Power-Entry-Modules/_/N-axiqi/

[I couldn't do much more than a quick search since I'm really busy with 
flood cleanup.]


Keep in mind the C5/C6 couplers are only rated for 2.5A.

Something else other list members may find interesting is the Bulgin 
PX0578/63. Those are a C13 input coupler with 0.25in (6.3mm) quick connect 
terminals. I'm using some of these to connect power to some really small 
SeaSonic switch mode PSUs for embedded applications.


Both Bulgin and Schurter have all sorts of IEC 60320 connectors/couplers, 
but the best way to find them is to look at the datasheets and not 
Mouser's search. Mouser often has the terminations, mounting type, and 
sometimes even the coupler type listed wrong, so I always use the 
manufacturer's part number when searching.


Re: Old HP test equipment power connectors...

2015-05-27 Thread Tothwolf

On Tue, 26 May 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote:

On 05/26/2015 08:28 PM, Brent Hilpert wrote:

Like wulfman and chuck and as described on my page, I replace the 
chassis inlet whenever I can, although occasionally it's not possible 
due to proximity of other chassis elements as the IEC inlet is slightly 
larger.


Belden made a lot of cords for HP and others, and sometimes you can still 
find them NOS in their original packages.


Right now, I'm cursing the guy who thought that the cloverleaf or 
mouseketeer power receptacle was a good idea.  I'm sitting here 
looking at an HP ScanJet wondering if it would be worth the effort to 
replace it.


Fer heaven's sake, what was wrong with the IEC connector?


Which specific IEC connector? A lot of people think of the C13 as the only 
IEC connector, but there is a whole family of IEC 60320 (IEC 320) 
connectors. If by cloverleaf or mouseketeer you are referring to the 
C7 or C5 couplers, those types are part of the IEC 60320 standard. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60320 (Full disclosure: I have access to 
copies of the official 60320 standards and I spent a good deal of time 
working with some other editors on the material for Wikipedia). Now, if 
you want to talk about really weird connectors, Sony had a number of power 
connectors which can be incredibly hard to find replacements for today...


Re: Old HP test equipment power connectors...

2015-05-27 Thread Dale H. Cook
At 10:25 PM 5/26/2015, Jules Richardson wrote:

... is there a classiccmp-type list equivalent for old test gear?

Yahoogroups.com hosts a number of them. I sub lists there for GR, HP, and Tek, 
as well as the TestEquipTrader list for buying and selling vintage equipment.

Dale H. Cook, GR / HP Collector, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA
http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/radios/index.html 



Re: Old HP test equipment power connectors...

2015-05-26 Thread Jules Richardson

On 05/26/2015 09:27 PM, Kyle Owen wrote:

Yes, there does appear to be a name for them: the 163 connector.

http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~hilpert/e/powerConn/index.html


Thanks - that's the critter!

My modified calculator cable is probably the Japanese calculator type, 
although it seems to work OK with 163-type sockets despite the mention of 
the pin diameter of the 163 being a little larger (presumably the 
receptacles within the plug are pressing up against the pins of the 163 
type socket, but not actually fitting over them).


I would much rather have the right type, obviously!


Big thanks to our own Brent Hilpert for the great reference!


Indeed :-)

Jules



RE: Old HP test equipment power connectors...

2015-05-26 Thread tony duell
 
 Right now, I'm cursing the guy who thought that the cloverleaf or
 mouseketeer power receptacle was a good idea.  I'm sitting here
 looking at an HP ScanJet wondering if it would be worth the effort to
 replace it.
 
 Fer heaven's sake, what was wrong with the IEC connector?

If you mean the one that a mad friend of mine calls the 'figure of 12' (on the 
grounds that the
2 pin one used on radios, etc, is often called a 'figure of 8') then I believe 
it _is_ an IEC
connector, in the same standard as the more familiar 'kettle plug'.

The thing that annoys me about this connector is that a rewireable cable socket 
does not
seem to exist. Just moulded cables, which I dislike on the grounds I can't 
check that the wires
are properly connected (and not just held on one strand). A rewireable 'figure 
of 8' does exist,
but the version I have seen doesn't have a proper cable clamp.

-tony


Re: Old HP test equipment power connectors...

2015-05-26 Thread Glen Slick
On May 26, 2015 8:28 PM, Brent Hilpert hilp...@cs.ubc.ca wrote:

 On 2015-May-26, at 7:27 PM, Kyle Owen wrote:
  Yes, there does appear to be a name for them: the 163 connector.
 
  http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~hilpert/e/powerConn/index.html
 
  Big thanks to our own Brent Hilpert for the great reference!

 Thanks for the mention. Note the 163 name is my 'best estimate' for the
type name.

 Sphere appears to have some currently in stock, see bottom of page:
 http://www.sphere.bc.ca/test/wallwarts.html

Also:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171763233717