Re: A computer collection in Italy

2016-04-06 Thread Antonio Carlini

On 06/04/16 15:38, Dave Wade wrote:

I wish I had such an inventory of my collection


I wish I had a 4000sqm building nearby :-)

I'm much more likely to (eventually) build up an inventory of the stuff 
I do have (that's just time and effort ...).


Antonio

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RE: A computer collection in Italy

2016-04-06 Thread Dave Wade
I wish I had such an inventory of my collection

> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Pontus
> Sent: 06 April 2016 11:32
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> Subject: Re: A computer collection in Italy
> 
> On 04/05/2016 04:31 PM, Christian Corti wrote:
> > On Tue, 5 Apr 2016, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
> >> http://www.retrocomputing.net/
> >>
> >> Looks like he has both an 11/780 (though it looks to be in pieces)
> >> and a 390.
> >>
> >> Impressive collection.
> >
> > ... that get's much smaller if you omit all those entries for flat
> > band cables, connectors, heat sinks, power supplies ... The only place
> > with a similar approach is ISER, a catalog of any single atom they
> > have in their collection ;-) Impressive list, but absolutely useless
> > IMO (e.g. entries like "cable, length 1m, purpose unknown, color
> > black")
> >
> > Christian
> 
> Size doesn't matter. I'm more impressed by the fact that he has an
inventory,
> _with_ photos. I'm also impressed by the diversity and some rare items.
> 
> Perhaps I'm just young and impressionable :-)
> 
> /P



Re: A computer collection in Italy

2016-04-06 Thread Pontus

On 04/05/2016 04:31 PM, Christian Corti wrote:

On Tue, 5 Apr 2016, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:

http://www.retrocomputing.net/

Looks like he has both an 11/780 (though it looks to be in pieces) 
and a 390.


Impressive collection.


... that get's much smaller if you omit all those entries for flat 
band cables, connectors, heat sinks, power supplies ... The only place 
with a similar approach is ISER, a catalog of any single atom they 
have in their collection ;-) Impressive list, but absolutely useless 
IMO (e.g. entries like "cable, length 1m, purpose unknown, color black")


Christian


Size doesn't matter. I'm more impressed by the fact that he has an 
inventory, _with_ photos. I'm also impressed by the diversity and some 
rare items.


Perhaps I'm just young and impressionable :-)

/P


Re: A computer collection in Italy

2016-04-05 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2016-Apr-05, at 10:29 AM, Antonio Carlini wrote:
> On 05/04/16 15:31, Christian Corti wrote:
>> 
>> ... that get's much smaller if you omit all those entries for flat band 
>> cables, connectors, heat sinks, power supplies ... The only place with a 
>> similar approach is ISER, a catalog of any single atom they have in their 
>> collection ;-) Impressive list, but absolutely useless IMO (e.g. entries 
>> like "cable, length 1m, purpose unknown, color black")
>> 
> 
> I've never been there so I don't know for sure, but if he just had 10,000 
> cables he wouldn't really need to have bought a 4000sqm building :-)
> 
> His online catalogue is obviously incomplete: his prized VAX-11/780 doesn't 
> seem to be there for a start (at least not under the most obvious entries I 
> looked at).

http://www.retrocomputing.net/  --> Catalogo  --> D  --> Digital  --> Mini 
computer VAX 11/780  --> Fotografie

Dismantled to frame and modules. Didn't see the skins in the pics. Hope he has 
them.

(His server or network seems to be stumbling at this time, access is painful, 
was OK earlier).

Re: A computer collection in Italy

2016-04-05 Thread Antonio Carlini

On 05/04/16 15:31, Christian Corti wrote:


... that get's much smaller if you omit all those entries for flat 
band cables, connectors, heat sinks, power supplies ... The only place 
with a similar approach is ISER, a catalog of any single atom they 
have in their collection ;-) Impressive list, but absolutely useless 
IMO (e.g. entries like "cable, length 1m, purpose unknown, color black")


Christian



I've never been there so I don't know for sure, but if he just had 
10,000 cables he wouldn't really need to have bought a 4000sqm building :-)


His online catalogue is obviously incomplete: his prized VAX-11/780 
doesn't seem to be there for a start (at least not under the most 
obvious entries I looked at).


Antonio


--
Antonio Carlini
arcarl...@iee.org



RE: A computer collection in Italy

2016-04-05 Thread Robert Jarratt


> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Antonio
> Carlini
> Sent: 05 April 2016 10:07
> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Subject: A computer collection in Italy
> 
> I came across this:
> 
> http://www.lastampa.it/2016/03/23/edizioni/biella/alberto-lingegnere-che-
> salva-le-vecchie-glorie-dei-computer-gV1q0KqnJI1hEGCzDrqiJJ/pagina.html
> 
> which lead me on to
> 
> http://www.lastampa.it/2015/08/25/edizioni/biella/dai-pc-di-jurassic-park-
> ai-primi-computer-del-cnr-nsFSDGxVnfcZv7B2oqxm7M/pagina.html
> 
> Alberto Rubinelli has a warehouse full of machines (8134 that have been
> catalogued and maybe 4000 more that are yet to be catalogued). The article
> mentions a VAX-11/780 and and an "IBM 390", but no pictures of either.
> There's a Laptop Grid Computer 1520 but it's not quite clear whether it is
one
> that flew on the shuttle or just the same type as one that did.
> 
> His aim is to have them all running and to open a museum.
> 
> Antonio
> 
> --
> Antonio Carlini
> arcarl...@iee.org


Actually I now realise I *have* been in contact with him, 7 years ago. I
asked if I could come and visit when next in the area (I visit the area
quite often), but at the time he didn't seem very ready for visitors. I will
try again at Christmas, as that will be my next visit.

The newspaper article says all the machines work, but I find that really
hard to believe. Probably journalistic hyperbole.

Regards

Rob



Re: A computer collection in Italy

2016-04-05 Thread Christian Corti

On Tue, 5 Apr 2016, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:

http://www.retrocomputing.net/

Looks like he has both an 11/780 (though it looks to be in pieces) and a 390.

Impressive collection.


... that get's much smaller if you omit all those entries for flat band 
cables, connectors, heat sinks, power supplies ... The only place with a 
similar approach is ISER, a catalog of any single atom they have in their 
collection ;-) Impressive list, but absolutely useless IMO (e.g. entries 
like "cable, length 1m, purpose unknown, color black")


Christian


Re: A computer collection in Italy

2016-04-05 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
Hi

Looks like this is his homepage:

http://www.retrocomputing.net/

Looks like he has both an 11/780 (though it looks to be in pieces) and a 390.

Impressive collection.

/P

On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 10:07:16AM +0100, Antonio Carlini wrote:
> I came across this:
> 
> http://www.lastampa.it/2016/03/23/edizioni/biella/alberto-lingegnere-che-salva-le-vecchie-glorie-dei-computer-gV1q0KqnJI1hEGCzDrqiJJ/pagina.html
> 
> which lead me on to
> 
> http://www.lastampa.it/2015/08/25/edizioni/biella/dai-pc-di-jurassic-park-ai-primi-computer-del-cnr-nsFSDGxVnfcZv7B2oqxm7M/pagina.html
> 
> Alberto Rubinelli has a warehouse full of machines (8134 that have been
> catalogued and maybe 4000 more that are yet to be catalogued). The article
> mentions a VAX-11/780 and and an "IBM 390", but no pictures of either.
> There's a Laptop Grid Computer 1520 but it's not quite clear whether it is
> one that flew on the shuttle or just the same type as one that did.
> 
> His aim is to have them all running and to open a museum.
> 
> Antonio
> 
> -- 
> Antonio Carlini
> arcarl...@iee.org
> 


RE: A computer collection in Italy

2016-04-05 Thread Rob Jarratt
Darn! I was in the area last week, well, the East side of Novara anyway. I have 
a vague recollection that I have been in touch with him a few years ago. Will 
check when I get home tonight

Rob

Sent from my Windows 10 phone

From: Antonio Carlini
Sent: 05 April 2016 11:51
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: A computer collection in Italy

I came across this:

http://www.lastampa.it/2016/03/23/edizioni/biella/alberto-lingegnere-che-salva-le-vecchie-glorie-dei-computer-gV1q0KqnJI1hEGCzDrqiJJ/pagina.html

which lead me on to

http://www.lastampa.it/2015/08/25/edizioni/biella/dai-pc-di-jurassic-park-ai-primi-computer-del-cnr-nsFSDGxVnfcZv7B2oqxm7M/pagina.html

Alberto Rubinelli has a warehouse full of machines (8134 that have been 
catalogued and maybe 4000 more that are yet to be catalogued). The 
article mentions a VAX-11/780 and and an "IBM 390", but no pictures of 
either. There's a Laptop Grid Computer 1520 but it's not quite clear 
whether it is one that flew on the shuttle or just the same type as one 
that did.

His aim is to have them all running and to open a museum.

Antonio

-- 
Antonio Carlini
arcarl...@iee.org