Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org
The whois record for pdp8.org lists its DNS servers as ns.spiritone.com and ns2.spiritone.com. What is interesting is that neither of those entries are in the spiritone.com dns servers from my point of view. However DNSStuff can get A records for those queries. This means that they are providing different views probably depending on if you are inside their network or outside. And they probably let DNSStuff in because that makes stuff look less broken. The simplest solution is to host the record with the registrar or one of the professional hosting services. Usually the registrar will host the record as part of the registration fee. On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > > > On Oct 8, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Vincent Slyngstad via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > I wrote to Aaron a couple of days ago, and mentioned Jay's offer to him. > > > > I did hear back from him -- he's aware of the problem and does have his > site backed up. > > (He didn't volunteer any details about his plans, but I assume he's got > things in hand.) > > > > Vince > > Thanks Vince, I’ve not spoken to Aaron for years, so good to know he’s > still around. > > Zane > > > -- Doug Ingraham PDP-8 SN 1175
Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org
> On Oct 8, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Vincent Slyngstad via cctalk > wrote: > > I wrote to Aaron a couple of days ago, and mentioned Jay's offer to him. > > I did hear back from him -- he's aware of the problem and does have his site > backed up. > (He didn't volunteer any details about his plans, but I assume he's got > things in hand.) > > Vince Thanks Vince, I’ve not spoken to Aaron for years, so good to know he’s still around. Zane
Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org
I wrote to Aaron a couple of days ago, and mentioned Jay's offer to him. I did hear back from him -- he's aware of the problem and does have his site backed up. (He didn't volunteer any details about his plans, but I assume he's got things in hand.) Vince
Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org
Maybe Jay can locate him and offer to re host it? Ed# In a message dated 10/7/2017 10:25:34 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 09:01:32AM -0700, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: [...] > My copy appears to be 724MB. The .zip is 619 MB and the .7z came in > at 596 MB. Interesting. I am again rerunning some download, this time set to continue if there were some failed files. And recording it all via /usr/bin/script, so I can later skim over it. BTW, (because definition of megabyte seems to vary even from one command to another): => (971 5): tar cpf - PDP8/DUMP_pdp8_org_20171007_0001/ | wc -c 566804480 => du -skx PDP8/DUMP_pdp8_org_20171007_0001/pdp-8.org/test-scans/ 17128PDP8/DUMP_pdp8_org_20171007_0001/pdp-8.org/test-scans/ => tar cpf - PDP8/DUMP_pdp8_org_20171007_0001/pdp-8.org/test-scans/ | wc -c 17530880 > The 16 MB I got for test-scans doesn't look important, though. (It > seems to be several rescans of the H724 schematic.) > >Vince This is how it looks in my copy, too. -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home ** ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** ** ** ** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com **
Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org
On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 07:25:16PM +0200, Tomasz Rola wrote: > On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 09:01:32AM -0700, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: > [...] > > My copy appears to be 724MB. The .zip is 619 MB and the .7z came in > > at 596 MB. > > Interesting. I am again rerunning some download, this time set to > continue if there were some failed files. And recording it all via > /usr/bin/script, so I can later skim over it. > > BTW, (because definition of megabyte seems to vary even from one > command to another): > > => (971 5): tar cpf - PDP8/DUMP_pdp8_org_20171007_0001/ | wc -c > 566804480 > > => du -skx PDP8/DUMP_pdp8_org_20171007_0001/pdp-8.org/test-scans/ > 17128 PDP8/DUMP_pdp8_org_20171007_0001/pdp-8.org/test-scans/ > > => tar cpf - PDP8/DUMP_pdp8_org_20171007_0001/pdp-8.org/test-scans/ | wc -c > 17530880 Also: => tar cpf - PDP8/DUMP_pdp8_org_20171007_0001/pdp-8.org/scans/ | wc -c 496281600 -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home** ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** ** ** ** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com **
Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org
On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 09:01:32AM -0700, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: [...] > My copy appears to be 724MB. The .zip is 619 MB and the .7z came in > at 596 MB. Interesting. I am again rerunning some download, this time set to continue if there were some failed files. And recording it all via /usr/bin/script, so I can later skim over it. BTW, (because definition of megabyte seems to vary even from one command to another): => (971 5): tar cpf - PDP8/DUMP_pdp8_org_20171007_0001/ | wc -c 566804480 => du -skx PDP8/DUMP_pdp8_org_20171007_0001/pdp-8.org/test-scans/ 17128 PDP8/DUMP_pdp8_org_20171007_0001/pdp-8.org/test-scans/ => tar cpf - PDP8/DUMP_pdp8_org_20171007_0001/pdp-8.org/test-scans/ | wc -c 17530880 > The 16 MB I got for test-scans doesn't look important, though. (It > seems to be several rescans of the H724 schematic.) > >Vince This is how it looks in my copy, too. -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home** ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** ** ** ** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com **
Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org
From: "Tomasz Rola via cctalk" Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 7:11 AM On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 10:01:40AM -0400, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: Did you get it all? Anyone else download it? I have got - probably - all. It is slightly above 500m in size (first try kind of misfired, but a second one seems to have yelded). I am trying to check if there might have been some missing parts that I did not get, but it looks complete (at least so as there were no dirs hidden from general public). The site seems to be gone. The address seems to be gone from DNS, but I may try again later. My copy appears to be 724MB. The .zip is 619 MB and the .7z came in at 596 MB. The 16 MB I got for test-scans doesn't look important, though. (It seems to be several rescans of the H724 schematic.) Vince
Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org
On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 10:46:14AM -0400, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: >> >> Anyone who still has access to it should down-load the entire > thing promptly. >> >> > I am >> > wget -r -np -nc -U lynx -w 2 -l 0 http://pdp-8.org/ >> > right now. >> >> Did you get it all? Anyone else download it? > >I have got - probably - all. > > Did you get /scans/ and /test-scans/? Yes. This was why I had to do it twice. Robots prevented this at first try. I have put a line into my /etc/hosts and now I can again access the site. In case my tar is needed, Jay West wrote he would contact me later. -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home** ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** ** ** ** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com **
Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org
> >> Anyone who still has access to it should down-load the entire thing promptly. > > > I am > > wget -r -np -nc -U lynx -w 2 -l 0 http://pdp-8.org/ > > right now. > > Did you get it all? Anyone else download it? I have got - probably - all. Did you get /scans/ and /test-scans/?
Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org
Might be obvious, but since we know the IP, and that seems to be stable one can just modify /etc/hosts to have a pdp-8.org address and just mirror the result that way.
Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org
On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 10:01:40AM -0400, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > From: Tomasz Rolak > > >> Anyone who still has access to it should down-load the entire thing > promptly. > > > I am > > wget -r -np -nc -U lynx -w 2 -l 0 http://pdp-8.org/ > > right now. > > Did you get it all? Anyone else download it? I have got - probably - all. It is slightly above 500m in size (first try kind of misfired, but a second one seems to have yelded). I am trying to check if there might have been some missing parts that I did not get, but it looks complete (at least so as there were no dirs hidden from general public). The site seems to be gone. The address seems to be gone from DNS, but I may try again later. -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home** ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** ** ** ** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com **
Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org
> From: Tomasz Rolak >> Anyone who still has access to it should down-load the entire thing promptly. > I am > wget -r -np -nc -U lynx -w 2 -l 0 http://pdp-8.org/ > right now. Did you get it all? Anyone else download it? Noel
Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org
> On Oct 6, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk > wrote: > > Alas, http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/decemu.html times out. Probably gone > for good. Or rather, bad. Not to worry, that’s all on my hard drive, I just need time to move it to my own webserver. Zane
Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org
Any DNS records pointing to Aracnet or Spiritone servers, are erratic at best, at the moment. Zane > On Oct 6, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote: > > curious wonder why it works for some but not all... Ed# > > > In a message dated 10/6/2017 1:47:03 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: > >> From: Vincent Slyngstad > >> Aaron's website seems to be working for me > > Anyone who still has access to it should down-load the entire thing > promptly. > > Noel >
RE: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org
I was both stuck out of town as well as suffering a local mbox snafu so I did not see this thread. If anyone managed to save it, and the owner cannot be contacted/found, I'd be happy to host it (or at least house it if permission is not obvious). J
Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org
On Fri, Oct 06, 2017 at 04:46:56PM -0400, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > From: Vincent Slyngstad > > > Aaron's website seems to be working for me > > Anyone who still has access to it should down-load the entire thing promptly. > > Noel I am wget -r -np -nc -U lynx -w 2 -l 0 http://pdp-8.org/ right now. Any clues how big this is going to be? Alas, http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/decemu.html times out. Probably gone for good. Or rather, bad. -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home** ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** ** ** ** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com **
Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org
curious wonder why it works for some but not all... Ed# In a message dated 10/6/2017 1:47:03 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: > From: Vincent Slyngstad > Aaron's website seems to be working for me Anyone who still has access to it should down-load the entire thing promptly. Noel
Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org
> From: Vincent Slyngstad > Aaron's website seems to be working for me Anyone who still has access to it should down-load the entire thing promptly. Noel
Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org
> On Oct 6, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk > wrote: > > ... > Of course a site may go any moment. Any site, I mean. True. If it's still around (even if only via IP address), judicious use of "wget" can preserve the whole thing. I did that with a particularly interesting website I feared might be purged from the Internet, though so far it hasn't been. paul
Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org
On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 09:09:12PM -0700, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > I’m not sure if Aaron’s website was offline prior to the last couple > days or not, as I honestly don’t remember the last time that I [...] Hi, I have loaded the homepage in a browser and were able to download one papertape image from http://pdp-8.org/papertape/ Of course a site may go any moment. Any site, I mean. -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home** ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** ** ** ** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com **
Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org
I don’t know what happened to Aaron, I’ve not spoken with him in years. The company he used to work for, which has been housing his website, appears to be in the process of falling apart. As it happens, I host my DEC Emulation pages with them as well. Zane > On Oct 6, 2017, at 8:53 AM, Ed via cctalk wrote: > > go to archive.org and suck down a copy of it. > multiple people should keep copies? > Did the fellow pass away? > Ed# > > > In a message dated 10/6/2017 6:21:36 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: > > >> On Oct 6, 2017, at 5:10 AM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk > wrote: >> >> ... >> Same here. I get a "server failed" DNS error when trying to look up > pdp8.org. > > I get "No such domain" both from my own DNS server, and from the one at > Google (8.8.8.8). But "whois" shows the name registered to Aaron, expiring > in March 2018. > > paul >
Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org
OK got it but some missing but some of that seems to be external sites that are belly up. Ed# In a message dated 10/6/2017 8:53:07 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: go to archive.org and suck down a copy of it. multiple people should keep copies? Did the fellow pass away? Ed# In a message dated 10/6/2017 6:21:36 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: > On Oct 6, 2017, at 5:10 AM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: > > ... > Same here. I get a "server failed" DNS error when trying to look up pdp8.org. I get "No such domain" both from my own DNS server, and from the one at Google (8.8.8.8). But "whois" shows the name registered to Aaron, expiring in March 2018. paul
Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org
go to archive.org and suck down a copy of it. multiple people should keep copies? Did the fellow pass away? Ed# In a message dated 10/6/2017 6:21:36 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: > On Oct 6, 2017, at 5:10 AM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: > > ... > Same here. I get a "server failed" DNS error when trying to look up pdp8.org. I get "No such domain" both from my own DNS server, and from the one at Google (8.8.8.8). But "whois" shows the name registered to Aaron, expiring in March 2018. paul
Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org
> On Oct 6, 2017, at 5:10 AM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk > wrote: > > ... > Same here. I get a "server failed" DNS error when trying to look up pdp8.org. I get "No such domain" both from my own DNS server, and from the one at Google (8.8.8.8). But "whois" shows the name registered to Aaron, expiring in March 2018. paul
Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org
Jim Stephens wrote: On 10/5/2017 11:28 PM, Vincent Slyngstad via cctalk wrote: From: "Zane Healy via cctalk" Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2017 9:09 PM I'm not sure if Aaron's website was offline prior to the last couple days or not, as I honestly don't remember the last time that I visited, but it's offline now. Aaron once upon a time, used to work for what was a really great ISP, aracnet.com, and that's apparently where his website was still being hosted. Aracnet has vanished under rather suspicious circumstances, and with it, both Aaron's website, and my DEC emulation pages website. I'm not sure what's going on, but Aaron's website seems to be working for me this evening. Vince Not even slightly working for me. pdp8.org entered in a browser times out. There are bits and pieces on archive.org. I tried on a remote system in case there was a problem with the domain local to my house. If the website is something other than the above, that would be my problem. ( I also tried pdp-8.org, times out as well). pdp8.org is registered to Aaron. Time: 12:30am 10/6/2017 PDT thanks jim Same here. I get a "server failed" DNS error when trying to look up pdp8.org. However, one of my ISP's nameservers still has the ip address cached for pdp8.org as 216.99.193.149. The pdp8.org webserver is still active on that ip address, however I cannot display the site in a browser because there are multiple websites on that ip address and the default one is some art gallery rather than pdp8.org. It looks to me that if the domain name hosting is moved elsewhere, the problem should be sorted out. If there is a danger of the webserver going away, putting 216.99.193.149 into a hosts file for pdp8.org (and maybe www.pdp8.org) might allow a browser to find the site. Regards, Peter Coghlan.
Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org
On 10/5/2017 11:28 PM, Vincent Slyngstad via cctalk wrote: From: "Zane Healy via cctalk" Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2017 9:09 PM I’m not sure if Aaron’s website was offline prior to the last couple days or not, as I honestly don’t remember the last time that I visited, but it’s offline now. Aaron once upon a time, used to work for what was a really great ISP, aracnet.com, and that’s apparently where his website was still being hosted. Aracnet has vanished under rather suspicious circumstances, and with it, both Aaron’s website, and my DEC emulation pages website. I'm not sure what's going on, but Aaron's website seems to be working for me this evening. Vince Not even slightly working for me. pdp8.org entered in a browser times out. There are bits and pieces on archive.org. I tried on a remote system in case there was a problem with the domain local to my house. If the website is something other than the above, that would be my problem. ( I also tried pdp-8.org, times out as well). pdp8.org is registered to Aaron. Time: 12:30am 10/6/2017 PDT thanks jim
Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org
From: "Zane Healy via cctalk" Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2017 9:09 PM I’m not sure if Aaron’s website was offline prior to the last couple days or not, as I honestly don’t remember the last time that I visited, but it’s offline now. Aaron once upon a time, used to work for what was a really great ISP, aracnet.com, and that’s apparently where his website was still being hosted. Aracnet has vanished under rather suspicious circumstances, and with it, both Aaron’s website, and my DEC emulation pages website. I'm not sure what's going on, but Aaron's website seems to be working for me this evening. Vince