Re: M688 Flip Chip Unibus Power Fail Driver Modules

2021-01-08 Thread Steve Malikoff via cctalk
Noel said
>  (I said)   > There is an 11/15
>
> ??? Is that a typo for 'PDP-15'? The -11/15 looks just like an -11/20
>
>   https://www.ricomputermuseum.org/collections-gallery/equipment/dec-pdp-1115
>
> except it only has 16 address switches, not 18 as on the /20. (The front panel
> shown there has an OEM-specific re-paint; I couldn't quickly turn up an image
> of a DEC /15 front panel.)


Yes it was a typo sorry. I had meant to type 'PDP-15' but in my haste and 
having '11/15'
on the brain (owing to the FOX 2 I have) I mistakenly typed that instead.

Off-topic for this thread I guess, but, the FOX 2 has a two-tone green panel 
that are in the
Foxboro corporate colours, these being different shades to the Lab(?) 11/20 on 
the wiki page.
(Photo showing some of the FOX 2 switches at
http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?76489-reproduction-PDP-8e-toggle-switches/page2
 )
If anyone ever sees a DECwriter in green then that would likely be a Foxboro 
one as well.

I've also seen on eBay a front panel from a russian 11/15 clone, quite a crude 
manufacture.



Re: M688 Flip Chip Unibus Power Fail Driver Modules

2021-01-08 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
 > From: Steven Malikoff

 > Would that be part of this system at a Japanese computer museum? ...
 > the 11/05 has 'Unichannel15' on it

Yes, the 3 bays in the center are a PDP-15. (The indicator panel at the top
of the center bay is the one for the PDP-15 CPU; you can see it here:

  http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tech/DECIndicatorPanels.html

at the top of the 'PDP-15' section.) The Unichannel 15:

  https://gunkies.org/wiki/UNICHANNEL_15_System

is undoubtly there to drive the RK05; I don't think there's a native PDP-15
controller for that.


> There is an 11/15

??? Is that a typo for 'PDP-15'? The -11/15 looks just like an -11/20

  https://www.ricomputermuseum.org/collections-gallery/equipment/dec-pdp-1115

except it only has 16 address switches, not 18 as on the /20. (The front panel
shown there has an OEM-specific re-paint; I couldn't quickly turn up an image
of a DEC /15 front panel.)

Noel


Re: M688 Flip Chip Unibus Power Fail Driver Modules

2021-01-07 Thread Steve Malikoff via cctalk
Noel said
 > The "Spare Module Handbook" lists:
> > ...
> > MX11-B
>
> I apparently can't read. Should be "MX15-B":
>
>   https://gunkies.org/wiki/MX15-B_Memory_Multiplexer

Would that be part of this system at a Japanese computer museum? There is an 
11/15 and the 11/05 has 'Unichannel15' on it:
https://www.kcg.ac.jp/museum/en/computer/mini_computers/dec.html




Re: M688 Flip Chip Unibus Power Fail Driver Modules

2021-01-07 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> The "Spare Module Handbook" lists:
> ...
> MX11-B

I apparently can't read. Should be "MX15-B":

  https://gunkies.org/wiki/MX15-B_Memory_Multiplexer

  Noel


Re: M688 Flip Chip Unibus Power Fail Driver Modules

2021-01-07 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Ethan Dicks

> what are these found in?

The "Spare Module Handbook" lists:

  RH11-AB
  TM11, TMA11
  MX11-B

Does _anyone_ actually have an MX11? Any documentation would also be welcome;
all I've been able to find out about it is a listing for the addresses of
control registers.

Noel


RE: M688 Flip Chip Unibus Power Fail Driver Modules

2021-01-06 Thread Henk Gooijen via cctalk



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Onderwerp: Re: M688 Flip Chip Unibus Power Fail Driver Modules

On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 5:24 PM Noel Chiappa via cctalk
 wrote:
> Anyone need/want a couple of these? Someone has a group of 5 for sale on eBait
> (#184317666245), and I want a couple, but not _5_. The seller didn't respond
> to a request to split up the lot, so I'd like to go in with a couple of other
> people on the. Any takers?

I'm a "maybe"... what are these found in? (I have quite a bit of early
70s PDP-11 gear).

-ethan


ISTR that the M688 is optional in the RH-11 (MASSBUS interface for PDP-11),
but I am too lazy to check (still too early).

Henk, PA8PDP


Re: M688 Flip Chip Unibus Power Fail Driver Modules

2021-01-06 Thread Steve Malikoff via cctalk
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 5:24 PM Noel Chiappa via cctalk
>  wrote:
>> Anyone need/want a couple of these? Someone has a group of 5 for sale on 
>> eBait
>> (#184317666245), and I want a couple, but not _5_. The seller didn't respond
>> to a request to split up the lot, so I'd like to go in with a couple of other
>> people on the. Any takers?
>
> I'm a "maybe"... what are these found in? (I have quite a bit of early
> 70s PDP-11 gear).
>
> -ethan

It's not used in the PDP-11/15, that I can tell. I checked the 11/15 module 
utilisation
diagram and it specifies the KP11-A M7217 and M7218 Power Fail and Restart 
modules, which
my FOX2 does have installed.

Steve.



Re: M688 Flip Chip Unibus Power Fail Driver Modules

2021-01-06 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 5:24 PM Noel Chiappa via cctalk
 wrote:
> Anyone need/want a couple of these? Someone has a group of 5 for sale on eBait
> (#184317666245), and I want a couple, but not _5_. The seller didn't respond
> to a request to split up the lot, so I'd like to go in with a couple of other
> people on the. Any takers?

I'm a "maybe"... what are these found in? (I have quite a bit of early
70s PDP-11 gear).

-ethan