Re: TRIAD (was RE: Some scrapper in NC has an old machine Labled TRIAD he is scrapping

2016-11-23 Thread jon clark
Let me know what more pictures or information would be helpful in knowing
if it is worth saving.  I can take pictures of the terminals.but if
anything specific is needed off of the Triad main let me know.

On Nov 23, 2016 11:58 AM, "william degnan"  wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Jay West  wrote:
>
> > The "scrapper" in NC that has the Triad contacted me directly, he had
> seen
> > the discussion of the system in the classiccmp archives.
> >
> > He wasn't sure how to get his contact info out there, so he emailed me
> with
> > his name and direct phone number. I don't want to just post it publicly
> > (although it may already be out there somewhere, I don't know).
> >
> > If someone is spearheading the effort to save this machine, please
> contact
> > me offlist and I'll provide the contact info.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > J
> >
> >
> >
> Not sure if anyone mentioned this but I am guessing this is a Novell
> server.  Not many here seem to be into preserving Novell servers and such.
>I could be mistaken.
>
> Bill
>


Re: TRIAD (was RE: Some scrapper in NC has an old machine Labled TRIAD he is scrapping

2016-11-23 Thread william degnan
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Jay West  wrote:

> The "scrapper" in NC that has the Triad contacted me directly, he had seen
> the discussion of the system in the classiccmp archives.
>
> He wasn't sure how to get his contact info out there, so he emailed me with
> his name and direct phone number. I don't want to just post it publicly
> (although it may already be out there somewhere, I don't know).
>
> If someone is spearheading the effort to save this machine, please contact
> me offlist and I'll provide the contact info.
>
> Best,
>
> J
>
>
>
Not sure if anyone mentioned this but I am guessing this is a Novell
server.  Not many here seem to be into preserving Novell servers and such.
   I could be mistaken.

Bill


TRIAD (was RE: Some scrapper in NC has an old machine Labled TRIAD he is scrapping

2016-11-23 Thread Jay West
The "scrapper" in NC that has the Triad contacted me directly, he had seen
the discussion of the system in the classiccmp archives.

He wasn't sure how to get his contact info out there, so he emailed me with
his name and direct phone number. I don't want to just post it publicly
(although it may already be out there somewhere, I don't know).

If someone is spearheading the effort to save this machine, please contact
me offlist and I'll provide the contact info.

Best,

J




Re: Some scrapper in NC has an old machine Labled TRIAD he is scrapping

2016-11-20 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Josh Dersch

> Someone should try to rescue that; they're very rare...

I personally don't want to get into this (I'm already knee-deep in PDP-11
stuff), but I can help with the logistics; I'm down in SE Virginia, very
close to the NC line. So if someone wants to do this, but is e.g. on the West
Coast, I can wrangle getting it, and getting it shipped out.

Noel


Re: Some scrapper in NC has an old machine Labled TRIAD he is scrapping

2016-11-20 Thread James B DiGriz
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 21:12:17 -0800
Josh Dersch  wrote:

> Looks like a rebadged Interdata 7/32 (or similar) to me.  Someone
> should try to rescue that; they're very rare...
> 
> 
> - Josh
> 
> 
> On 11/19/16 8:35 PM, TeoZ wrote:
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Sure looks like an 7/32 or 8/32 front panel. 

I am a few hundred from Florence. Too much for me to take on right now,
but I do have a 10x10 available to me reasonable, that I was planning
to get anyway. I'm willing to pick up, or assist, and store temporarily
if anyone wants to rescue this system. 

jbdigriz


Re: Some scrapper in NC has an old machine Labled TRIAD he is scrapping

2016-11-20 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 11/20/2016 07:05 AM, Al Kossow wrote:

> Priam bought Vertex and survived into the 5" era The priam 519 is
> equivalent to the Maxtor 2190

...later acquired by Atasi.  I still have a 519 with the Atasi label.  I
loved the Priam image of a discus thrower.

Atasi, IIRC, was acquired by Tandon sometime in the late 80s, I believe.


--Chuck



Re: Some scrapper in NC has an old machine Labled TRIAD he is scrapping

2016-11-20 Thread Al Kossow


On 11/19/16 11:14 PM, jim stephens wrote:

> The disk drives look a lot like Priam SMD drives.  Two to a tray, 8" form 
> factor.  About 150 or 300mb IIRC.  They had a
> very nice open frame 60mb and 90mb drive which i have a specimen of somewhere 
> as well that proceeded the 8" product.  I
> don't think they survived to make any later products.

Their 8" drives were available with a couple of different interfaces
Some companies building Multibus and Qbus systems sold them. The
Multibus systems generally used Ciprico Rimfire controllers. They also
made a 80mb disk system for the Lisa called the DataTower.

Priam bought Vertex and survived into the 5" era
The priam 519 is equivalent to the Maxtor 2190



Re: Some scrapper in NC has an old machine Labled TRIAD he is scrapping

2016-11-20 Thread James B DiGriz
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 21:12:17 -0800
Josh Dersch  wrote:

> Looks like a rebadged Interdata 7/32 (or similar) to me.  Someone
> should try to rescue that; they're very rare...
> 
> 
> - Josh
> 
> 
> On 11/19/16 8:35 PM, TeoZ wrote:
> > http://www.scrapmetalforum.com/general-electronics-recycling/30872-old-computer-peripherals-main-frame-etc-should-i.html
> >
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Triad was an auto parts vertical market system vendor back in the
'80s (maybe earlier, not sure). 

I looked at one of these systems back in the mid-80s with a Triad rep
and the owners of a auto parts warehouse/jobber chain I worked for, who
were considering purchasing one. I was told the hardware was based on
TI 990 gear. At least that one, anyway. I wasn't able to inspect the
boards, however. The terminals are an interesting design, for sure,
but I dunno if they're TI. 

The boss eventually went with a Xenix system (Altos 3086) running
another vendor's software package. The Triad certainly was an
interesting beast, though.  

The system I saw was in Beaufort, SC. The scrapper's is in Florence.
It's conceivable they are one and the same. Jobber had a store in
Florence, IIRC.

jbdigriz


Re: Some scrapper in NC has an old machine Labled TRIAD he is scrapping

2016-11-19 Thread jim stephens



On 11/19/2016 10:00 PM, Jon Elson wrote:


First picture, top left is a CDC 92185 tape drive (could be a 92181, 
but I think it is the first number), 1600/6250 BPI streaming drive. 
Very rugged, most likely still works.  If it is a SCSI drive, I may 
want it, or want boards from it if nobody else does. 
The disk drives look a lot like Priam SMD drives.  Two to a tray, 8" 
form factor.  About 150 or 300mb IIRC.  They had a very nice open frame 
60mb and 90mb drive which i have a specimen of somewhere as well that 
proceeded the 8" product.  I don't think they survived to make any later 
products.


Re: Some scrapper in NC has an old machine Labled TRIAD he is scrapping

2016-11-19 Thread jim stephens



On 11/19/2016 9:20 PM, Bob Rosenbloom wrote:
It could be a 7/32 or 8/32. There will be some custom Triad boards 
inside. Their systems were used in auto parts and hardware stores.
Disk drives may be Hawks. The terminals were plasma screens designed 
in house. The printers are TI Omni 800's rebadged Triad.
It looks like there are some CRT terminals on the floor. They are what 
I designed for them. It was my first Job out of college.
I worked at Triad from 1970-1981. 
I forwarded this to the guys here in Southern California who last worked 
for them, Art Shahan and Dale Tyler.  Also Rod Quigley if you know any 
of them, Bob.


They may have interest as they were the ones who turned out the lights.




Re: Some scrapper in NC has an old machine Labled TRIAD he is scrapping

2016-11-19 Thread Jon Elson

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First picture, top left is a CDC 92185 tape drive (could be 
a 92181, but I think it is the first number), 1600/6250 BPI 
streaming drive. Very rugged, most likely still works.  If 
it is a SCSI drive, I may want it, or want boards from it if 
nobody else does.


To the right of it, I really think, is a relabeled Interdata 
CPU.


Jon


Re: Some scrapper in NC has an old machine Labled TRIAD he is scrapping

2016-11-19 Thread Bob Rosenbloom
It could be a 7/32 or 8/32. There will be some custom Triad boards 
inside. Their systems were used in auto parts and hardware stores.
Disk drives may be Hawks. The terminals were plasma screens designed in 
house. The printers are TI Omni 800's rebadged Triad.
It looks like there are some CRT terminals on the floor. They are what I 
designed for them. It was my first Job out of college.

I worked at Triad from 1970-1981.

It would be wonderful if someone could save this stuff.

Bob

On 11/19/2016 9:12 PM, Josh Dersch wrote:
Looks like a rebadged Interdata 7/32 (or similar) to me.  Someone 
should try to rescue that; they're very rare...



- Josh


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Re: Some scrapper in NC has an old machine Labled TRIAD he is scrapping

2016-11-19 Thread Josh Dersch
Looks like a rebadged Interdata 7/32 (or similar) to me.  Someone should 
try to rescue that; they're very rare...



- Josh


On 11/19/16 8:35 PM, TeoZ wrote:

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