Re: SAGE memory plane
On 9/17/18 9:10 PM, Mike Loewen wrote: > I'll have to look through my references to find out when it was deployed. > That training manual doesn't seem to be on > Bitsavers. :-) It would be nice to find it. Yes it would. The 'cold war secrets' site must have had access to a copy but I have no idea if the entire document was scanned
Re: SAGE memory plane
Its a shame it wasn't in the complete unit. Unless someone actually erases it, core memory will hold data until the sun swells up, as a red giant, and toast the earth. One always wonders what one would find on these old cores. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of Mike Loewen via cctalk Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 9:10:21 PM To: Al Kossow; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: SAGE memory plane On Sun, 16 Sep 2018, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/232927847019 > > https://secretsofcoldwarradar.omeka.net/exhibits/show/cold-war-radar-technology/item/4 > > can someone identify exactly what this box was called, when it was deployed, > and what training manual they are referring to? In the T.O. (http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/sage/3-32-0_Central_Computer_System_Vol1_Feb59.pdf), that cabinet is called "core memory 1", or 256² ferrite core array". We just called it "Big Mem". Here's a picture of the cabinet from McChord's SAGE: http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/SAGE/BigMem.jpg I'll have to look through my references to find out when it was deployed. That training manual doesn't seem to be on Bitsavers. :-) It would be nice to find it. > we have a couple > http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102633198 > > and they keep getting mis-identified. I have one, as well: http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/SAGE/Coreplane-1L.jpg Mike Loewen mloe...@cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/
Re: SAGE memory plane
On Sun, 16 Sep 2018, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/232927847019 https://secretsofcoldwarradar.omeka.net/exhibits/show/cold-war-radar-technology/item/4 can someone identify exactly what this box was called, when it was deployed, and what training manual they are referring to? In the T.O. (http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/sage/3-32-0_Central_Computer_System_Vol1_Feb59.pdf), that cabinet is called "core memory 1", or 256² ferrite core array". We just called it "Big Mem". Here's a picture of the cabinet from McChord's SAGE: http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/SAGE/BigMem.jpg I'll have to look through my references to find out when it was deployed. That training manual doesn't seem to be on Bitsavers. :-) It would be nice to find it. we have a couple http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102633198 and they keep getting mis-identified. I have one, as well: http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/SAGE/Coreplane-1L.jpg Mike Loewen mloe...@cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/
Re: SAGE memory plane
On 09/16/2018 08:45 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/232927847019 https://secretsofcoldwarradar.omeka.net/exhibits/show/cold-war-radar-technology/item/4 can someone identify exactly what this box was called, when it was deployed, and what training manual they are referring to? we have a couple http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102633198 and they keep getting mis-identified. The SAGE was the AN/FSQ-7 computer, possibly the sub-units had some IBM designation, although a quick scan of some bitsavers docs didn't turn that up. The SAGE main system were built on gigantic racks covered with modules with a row of tubes on them. So, no housing as we normally would expect. But, I think the core memory was different, and was built into a housing. I think the memory unit had few tubes in it, needed shielding and probably used controlled temperature, so a housing made more sense. But, that unit definitely matches what the SAGE core memory units looked like. Jon
SAGE memory plane
ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/232927847019 https://secretsofcoldwarradar.omeka.net/exhibits/show/cold-war-radar-technology/item/4 can someone identify exactly what this box was called, when it was deployed, and what training manual they are referring to? we have a couple http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102633198 and they keep getting mis-identified.