Re: Shipping a Flexowriter

[Paul Koning via cctalk]

> On Mar 23, 2018, at 1:43 PM, Kyle Owen via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> Thank you for the compliments! I'm looking forward to getting it going.
> 
> Any idea what the model (FIO) indicates?

I don't know that specific designation and I can't find my reference.  But I do 
know that Friden would make custom variations of the Flexowriter, for example 
with different characters on the type bars and other features.

An example is the Flexowriters used at labs and universities (MC and THE, for 
example) in Holland for ALGOL programming.  Those had _ and | characters that 
did not advance the carriage, for making keywords (underlined words) and 
characters like not-equal.  They also had a "stop on semicolon" feature on the 
tape duplication mechanism, so you could edit your programs by copying tape and 
stopping on a statement boundary.  I saw that model code a few months ago.

paul

Re: Shipping a Flexowriter

[Michael Zahorik via cctalk]

Kyle, my Friden is a Model SFD-V, although yours looks similar, apparently it 
is different. You will find that a lot of the old lube has combined with dust 
and dirt to make gummy grime. This sticky stuff will cause the relays and lever 
arms to stick and act sluggishly. I have found that a strip of paper pinched 
between the relay armature and pole piece then pulled out while pinching will 
remove a lot of it. So clean and oil, clean and oil. I have found a bunch of 
stuff on bitsavers and also had some help from the guys on GreenKeys. Good 
luck. Let me know if I can help.
 Mike Zahorik (414) 254-6768

  From: Kyle Owen via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk@classiccmp.org> 
 Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 12:44 PM
 Subject: Re: Shipping a Flexowriter
   
Thank you for the compliments! I'm looking forward to getting it going.

Any idea what the model (FIO) indicates?

Trying to locate some repair manuals and tips. Anything else I should look
for other than what's on Bitsavers?

The unit powers up and types with a few keys slow to act or return.
Carriage return doesn't latch when it gets to the left margin. Column 4 of
the punch is stuck on. Reader seems to work fine.

Thanks,

Kyle


   

Re: Shipping a Flexowriter

[Kyle Owen via cctalk]

Thank you for the compliments! I'm looking forward to getting it going.

Any idea what the model (FIO) indicates?

Trying to locate some repair manuals and tips. Anything else I should look
for other than what's on Bitsavers?

The unit powers up and types with a few keys slow to act or return.
Carriage return doesn't latch when it gets to the left margin. Column 4 of
the punch is stuck on. Reader seems to work fine.

Thanks,

Kyle

Re: Shipping a Flexowriter

[CuriousMarc via cctalk]

Wow! Complete with the matching desk and in perfect cosmetic condition. What a 
find. Congratulations!
Marc



On Mar 21, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Kyle Owen via cctalk  
wrote:

I ended up going with PakMail and was not disappointed. It arrived safe and
sound yesterday, and though the cost of shipping was almost as much as the
unit itself, I felt much better about paying a little more to make sure it
arrived without damage.

Pictures are here: https://imgur.com/a/xW480

Looking forward to getting it going!

Thanks for the suggestions,

Kyle

Re: Shipping a Flexowriter

[Ed Sharpe via cctalk]

Kyle, Really nice  with the matching  desk!
Lookin good!
 
Ed# - www.smecc.org 
 
In a message dated 3/21/2018 10:55:36 AM US Mountain Standard Time, 
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:

 
 I ended up going with PakMail and was not disappointed. It arrived safe and
sound yesterday, and though the cost of shipping was almost as much as the
unit itself, I felt much better about paying a little more to make sure it
arrived without damage.

Pictures are here: https://imgur.com/a/xW480

Looking forward to getting it going!

Thanks for the suggestions,

Kyle

Re: Shipping a Flexowriter

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

I have used PakMail before, no complaints
 -pete

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 10:55 AM, Kyle Owen via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I ended up going with PakMail and was not disappointed. It arrived safe and
> sound yesterday, and though the cost of shipping was almost as much as the
> unit itself, I felt much better about paying a little more to make sure it
> arrived without damage.
>
> Pictures are here: https://imgur.com/a/xW480
>
> Looking forward to getting it going!
>
> Thanks for the suggestions,
>
> Kyle
>
>

Re: Shipping a Flexowriter

[Kyle Owen via cctalk]

I ended up going with PakMail and was not disappointed. It arrived safe and
sound yesterday, and though the cost of shipping was almost as much as the
unit itself, I felt much better about paying a little more to make sure it
arrived without damage.

Pictures are here: https://imgur.com/a/xW480

Looking forward to getting it going!

Thanks for the suggestions,

Kyle

Re: Shipping a Flexowriter

[Robert via cctalk]

+2 for Pak Mail. I used their Plainview TX franchise, last year, to
send an AS/400e, with expansion chassis, all the way from Texas to
Canada.

They came and collected it (a 250 mile round trip), built a crate for
it and sent it LTL freight. The recipient was happy.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 2:38 PM, Curious Marc via cctalk
 wrote:
> +1 on Pak Mail too.
> Marc
>
>> On Feb 27, 2018, at 12:12 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 02/27/2018 11:37 AM, Ed Sharpe wrote:
>>> *In my  case  lady  worked at a  warehouse and had  her  people  palate
>>> and strap the  3 ttys!  saved $$   Pack mail is  great though  to  pack
>>> stuff if no other free reliable  option is there.   We have  to  ship a
>>>  large  group of  computer front panels  across  country  and  they
>>> handled it   really  well.
>>> *
>>>
>>> *Pack Mail  ships alot of  stuff  form many auction places too.*
>>
>> I've used *Pak Mail* several times for very large delicate items and
>> never have been disappointed.  Choose your store location, though--some
>> do not handle large things.
>>
>> One consideration is that they have contracts with the freight companies
>> and can often price shipping + packing for less than you'd get charged
>> for a single LTL shipment from a freight company.
>>
>> Have them ship it to another Pak Mail location, so you can pick it up,
>> sans pallet.
>>
>> Craters and Freighters is another good operation, though they tend to
>> operate on the East Coast.
>>
>> --Chuck
>>

Re: Shipping a Flexowriter

[Curious Marc via cctalk]

+1 on Pak Mail too. 
Marc

> On Feb 27, 2018, at 12:12 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
>> On 02/27/2018 11:37 AM, Ed Sharpe wrote:
>> *In my  case  lady  worked at a  warehouse and had  her  people  palate
>> and strap the  3 ttys!  saved $$   Pack mail is  great though  to  pack
>> stuff if no other free reliable  option is there.   We have  to  ship a
>>  large  group of  computer front panels  across  country  and  they
>> handled it   really  well.
>> *
>> 
>> *Pack Mail  ships alot of  stuff  form many auction places too.*
> 
> I've used *Pak Mail* several times for very large delicate items and
> never have been disappointed.  Choose your store location, though--some
> do not handle large things.
> 
> One consideration is that they have contracts with the freight companies
> and can often price shipping + packing for less than you'd get charged
> for a single LTL shipment from a freight company.
> 
> Have them ship it to another Pak Mail location, so you can pick it up,
> sans pallet.
> 
> Craters and Freighters is another good operation, though they tend to
> operate on the East Coast.
> 
> --Chuck
> 

Re: Shipping a Flexowriter

[Chuck Guzis via cctalk]

On 02/27/2018 11:37 AM, Ed Sharpe wrote:
> *In my  case  lady  worked at a  warehouse and had  her  people  palate
> and strap the  3 ttys!  saved $$   Pack mail is  great though  to  pack
> stuff if no other free reliable  option is there.   We have  to  ship a
>  large  group of  computer front panels  across  country  and  they
> handled it   really  well.
> *
> 
> *Pack Mail  ships alot of  stuff  form many auction places too.*

I've used *Pak Mail* several times for very large delicate items and
never have been disappointed.  Choose your store location, though--some
do not handle large things.

One consideration is that they have contracts with the freight companies
and can often price shipping + packing for less than you'd get charged
for a single LTL shipment from a freight company.

Have them ship it to another Pak Mail location, so you can pick it up,
sans pallet.

Craters and Freighters is another good operation, though they tend to
operate on the East Coast.

--Chuck

Re: Re: Shipping a Flexowriter

[Ed Sharpe via cctalk]

In my  case  lady  worked at a  warehouse and had  her  people  palate and 
strap the  3 ttys!  saved $$   Pack mail is  great though  to  pack stuff if no 
other free reliable  option is there.   We have  to  ship a  large  group of  
computer front panels  across  country  and  they handled it   really  well. 
 
Pack Mail  ships alot of  stuff  form many auction places too.
 
Ed# www.smecc.org 
 
In a message dated 2/27/2018 11:23:20 AM US Mountain Standard Time, 
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:

 
 On 02/27/2018 09:29 AM, dwight via cctalk wrote:
> I had a computer item palletized and shipped by Air Freight ( it went
> by surface ). An open pallet will not have things intentionally
> stacked on it. It is possible to have something dropped on it or a
> forklift tine rammed through it but that is another issue.
> 
> In my case, it worked out well but they did not deliver to my door (
> I have no loading dock ). I had to go and pick it up at their
> distribution center ( about a 25 mile drive ).

In my case, I simply used the local packaging franchise, Pak Mail.
Since they routinely load pallets, they didn't mind receiving one. Cost
me all of $5 for a warehouse fee--and they even helped load it into my
truck.

When I got it home, that's where the neighbor and six-pack came in handy.

--Chuck

Re: Shipping a Flexowriter

[Kyle Owen via cctalk]

The more quotes I get regarding shipping, the more I'm thinking to just
drive the 1300 miles (one way) and pick it up myself. I'd rather nothing
bad happen to it, as insurance money can't replace the unit (easily).

Any recommendations on finding a private carrier? It's in Colorado.

Kyle

Re: Shipping a Flexowriter

[Chuck Guzis via cctalk]

On 02/27/2018 09:29 AM, dwight via cctalk wrote:
> I had a computer item palletized and shipped by Air Freight ( it went
> by surface ). An open pallet will not have things intentionally
> stacked on it. It is possible to have something dropped on it or a
> forklift tine rammed through it but that is another issue.
> 
> In my case, it worked out well but they did not deliver to my door (
> I have no loading dock ). I had to go and pick it up at their
> distribution center ( about a 25 mile drive ).

In my case, I simply used the local packaging franchise, Pak Mail.
Since they routinely load pallets, they didn't mind receiving one.  Cost
me all of $5 for a warehouse fee--and they even helped load it into my
truck.

When I got it home, that's where the neighbor and six-pack came in handy.

--Chuck

Re: Re: Shipping a Flexowriter

[Ed Sharpe via cctalk]

Living in the dockless zone
 
Generally if they  deliver  to   your non dock  with a  lift gate truck the  
price of delivery does up  $40  to $100  A  while  back recently has  3  
tabletop  model 14 ... 5 level teletype  western union teletype  tape keyboard 
print on tape machines  shipped in strapped  to  palate  ...  2 for  an 
upcoming  display  on how the deaf  re purposed  teletypes to  their  network ( 
always looking  for ANYTHING  ELSE ON THIS  TOPIC) and  one to go in the tools 
of the journalist  display  over at the university.
 
The nice  people at the freight  place helped us  load them in one of our  
vehicles...
no  extra  charge and  they are  strong!
 
 
reminder... always  carry  plastic  sheeting in case things have  grease and 
oil... and  be  sure to have blankets  and cardboard sheeting to prevent 
scratching inside  vehicle.
 
Ed#  www.smec.org
 
 
In a message dated 2/27/2018 10:29:45 AM US Mountain Standard Time, 
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
 
 I had a computer item palletized and shipped by Air Freight ( it went by 
surface ). An open pallet will not have things intentionally stacked on it. It 
is possible to have something dropped on it or a forklift tine rammed through 
it but that is another issue.

In my case, it worked out well but they did not deliver to my door ( I have no 
loading dock ). I had to go and pick it up at their distribution center ( about 
a 25 mile drive ).

Dwight



From: cctalk <cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org> on behalf of Cory Heisterkamp via 
cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 5:53:19 AM
To: Kyle Owen; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Shipping a Flexowriter

If you can guarantee nothing will end up placed on top, it should be fine
strapped to a pallet. One thought would be to remove the feet and use the
bolt holes to attach it to a square of plywood, then screw that to the
pallet. Cinching a strap down over the top of it would probably not end
well. Next I'd wrap the thing in lots of cling wrap in every direction:
Keeps the carriage from moving, the cover from popping off, and should
prevent the loss of any loose keycaps. If it still has the paper roll
holder on the back, this should help keep it in place. Feet can be bagged
and put in the type basket.

I had a 90 pound microwave shipped to me once via FedEx Freight on a
quarter? size pallet. A little googling, it looks like the US "beverage"
pallet is 36x36. Might be a good size for this.

Depending on the circumstances, a 'gentler' door to door private party
carrier could be a good alternative (at roughly the same cost). -C



On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 7:39 AM, Kyle Owen via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org
> wrote:

> Does anyone have any tips on preparing a Flexowriter for shipping? Any
> thoughts as to crate vs. pallet?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kyle
>

Re: Shipping a Flexowriter

[dwight via cctalk]

I had a computer item palletized and shipped by Air Freight ( it went by 
surface ). An open pallet will not have things intentionally stacked on it. It 
is possible to have something dropped on it or a forklift tine rammed through 
it but that is another issue.

In my case, it worked out well but they did not deliver to my door ( I have no 
loading dock ). I had to go and pick it up at their distribution center ( about 
a 25 mile drive ).

Dwight



From: cctalk <cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org> on behalf of Cory Heisterkamp via 
cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 5:53:19 AM
To: Kyle Owen; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Shipping a Flexowriter

If you can guarantee nothing will end up placed on top, it should be fine
strapped to a pallet. One thought would be to remove the feet and use the
bolt holes to attach it to a square of plywood, then screw that to the
pallet. Cinching a strap down over the top of it would probably not end
well. Next I'd wrap the thing in lots of cling wrap in every direction:
Keeps the carriage from moving, the cover from popping off, and should
prevent the loss of any loose keycaps. If it still has the paper roll
holder on the back, this should help keep it in place. Feet can be bagged
and put in the type basket.

I had a 90 pound microwave shipped to me once via FedEx Freight on a
quarter? size pallet. A little googling, it looks like the US "beverage"
pallet is 36x36. Might be a good size for this.

Depending on the circumstances, a 'gentler' door to door private party
carrier could be a good alternative (at roughly the same cost). -C



On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 7:39 AM, Kyle Owen via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org
> wrote:

> Does anyone have any tips on preparing a Flexowriter for shipping? Any
> thoughts as to crate vs. pallet?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kyle
>

Re: Shipping a Flexowriter

[Cory Heisterkamp via cctalk]

If you can guarantee nothing will end up placed on top, it should be fine
strapped to a pallet. One thought would be to remove the feet and use the
bolt holes to attach it to a square of plywood, then screw that to the
pallet. Cinching a strap down over the top of it would probably not end
well. Next I'd wrap the thing in lots of cling wrap in every direction:
Keeps the carriage from moving, the cover from popping off, and should
prevent the loss of any loose keycaps. If it still has the paper roll
holder on the back, this should help keep it in place. Feet can be bagged
and put in the type basket.

I had a 90 pound microwave shipped to me once via FedEx Freight on a
quarter? size pallet. A little googling, it looks like the US "beverage"
pallet is 36x36. Might be a good size for this.

Depending on the circumstances, a 'gentler' door to door private party
carrier could be a good alternative (at roughly the same cost). -C



On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 7:39 AM, Kyle Owen via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org
> wrote:

> Does anyone have any tips on preparing a Flexowriter for shipping? Any
> thoughts as to crate vs. pallet?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kyle
>

Re: Shipping a Flexowriter

[Bill Degnan via cctalk]

I guess the first thing you need is my address

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 8:39 AM, Kyle Owen via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org
> wrote:

> Does anyone have any tips on preparing a Flexowriter for shipping? Any
> thoughts as to crate vs. pallet?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kyle
>

Shipping a Flexowriter

[Kyle Owen via cctalk]

Does anyone have any tips on preparing a Flexowriter for shipping? Any
thoughts as to crate vs. pallet?

Thanks,

Kyle