Re: Sun Monochrome TTL Monitors

2018-12-07 Thread Kyle Owen via cctalk
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 10:46 AM Stefan Skoglund 
wrote:

>
> You have one the ECL one ie (i think) bwtwo.
>
> https://www.sun3arc.org/FEH/CPU/3_60.phtml


Ahh, so it's built onto the board itself. Cool. I'll see about what it
would take to convert it to something else; might be a good Verilog
project. Might see about using the project Al mentioned for inspiration.

Thanks!

Kyle


Re: Sun Monochrome TTL Monitors

2018-12-07 Thread Stefan Skoglund via cctalk
fre 2018-12-07 klockan 08:07 -0600 skrev Kyle Owen via cctalk:
> Upon closer inspection, it appears as though I have no frame buffer.
> Drats.
> 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/ariFxb8xggERExkU9
> 
> Anyone have a spare that would work?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kyle

You have one the ECL one ie (i think) bwtwo.

https://www.sun3arc.org/FEH/CPU/3_60.phtml



Re: Sun Monochrome TTL Monitors

2018-12-07 Thread Kyle Owen via cctalk
Upon closer inspection, it appears as though I have no frame buffer. Drats.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ariFxb8xggERExkU9

Anyone have a spare that would work?

Thanks,

Kyle


Re: Sun Monochrome TTL Monitors

2018-12-06 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk



On 12/6/18 10:45 AM, Kyle Owen via cctalk wrote:
> What are people doing for early Sun monitor replacements? I've got a Sun
> 3/60 that I'd like to hook up to a modern monitor, but am unaware of any
> means of doing so.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Kyle
> 

http://tenoxvga.tenox.net/
https://github.com/tenox7/tenoxvga

could be a starting point



Re: Sun Monochrome TTL Monitors

2018-12-06 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 2:31 PM Ethan Dicks via cctalk 
wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 2:29 PM Ethan Dicks  wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 1:45 PM Kyle Owen via cctalk
> >  wrote:
> > > What are people doing for early Sun monitor replacements? I've got a
> Sun
> > > 3/60 that I'd like to hook up to a modern monitor, but am unaware of
> any
> > > means of doing so.
> >
> > Kyle, which framebuffer do you have?
>
> Kyle,
>
> To be more clear, since you mentioned "TTL mono" in your subject line,
> do you have a bwtwo or something else?
>
> -ethan
>

I have had a lot of mono monitors that might have worked, went through them
all, did not find it as easy as I would have hoped and I presently don't
think I have one that synchs.  Jon Chapman should know.
b


Re: Sun Monochrome TTL Monitors

2018-12-06 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 2:29 PM Ethan Dicks  wrote:
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 1:45 PM Kyle Owen via cctalk
>  wrote:
> > What are people doing for early Sun monitor replacements? I've got a Sun
> > 3/60 that I'd like to hook up to a modern monitor, but am unaware of any
> > means of doing so.
>
> Kyle, which framebuffer do you have?

Kyle,

To be more clear, since you mentioned "TTL mono" in your subject line,
do you have a bwtwo or something else?

-ethan


Re: Sun Monochrome TTL Monitors

2018-12-06 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 1:45 PM Kyle Owen via cctalk
 wrote:
> What are people doing for early Sun monitor replacements? I've got a Sun
> 3/60 that I'd like to hook up to a modern monitor, but am unaware of any
> means of doing so.

Kyle, which framebuffer do you have?   Here's a shot of the color
framebuffer http://www.obsolyte.com/sunPICS/sun3/color360r.jpg  The
old monochrome framebuffers used ECL signals, IIRC, and that plus the
refresh rate might be problematic with modern displays.

I also have a 3/60 that is sitting out on my bench that would love to
learn the answer to this question.  Earlier this year I finally got a
Sun3 keyboard (yes... one can make a Sun4 to Sun3 passive adapter, but
I never got around to it) and somewhere I have an optical mouse with
the modular jack that goes with it (again, an adapter can be made).

Absent the answer, I was planning on starting out with a SCSI drive
(or an ESDI drive in a Sun3 shoebox) and a serial terminal, just to
get the machine running something.

All of my real Sun experience starts with the SPARC1 in the early 90s.
I didn't really get to play with the Sun3 line when it was current.

-ethan


Sun Monochrome TTL Monitors

2018-12-06 Thread Kyle Owen via cctalk
What are people doing for early Sun monitor replacements? I've got a Sun
3/60 that I'd like to hook up to a modern monitor, but am unaware of any
means of doing so.

Thanks!

Kyle