Re: Vulnerabilities (Was: [Simh] Fwd: VAX + Spectre

2019-09-17 Thread ben via cctalk

Windows _is_ Bells and Whistles, plus a couple of gongs.


No ... The GONGS is the chinese knock off.





Re: Vulnerabilities (Was: [Simh] Fwd: VAX + Spectre

2019-09-17 Thread ben via cctalk

On 9/17/2019 1:08 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:

On Tue, 17 Sep 2019, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
I could easily imagine a computer science exam question "Describe in 
one paragraph the specific design error that enabled the Meltdown 
attack".


I used to have some related questions in my microcomputer operating 
systems class.  One student (who later became my best friend and buddy) 
skipped the technical details and said, "The primary design error for 
MacOS and Windoze (sic) is that they placed a lower priority on 
security, than on being able to transparently and without user action, 
add smell-o-vision, dancing kangaroos and yodelling jellyfish."


(YES, that's where I got that phrase from.)


I say the concept of a) Time sharing and B) GUI and c) 8 bit bytes
and D) the C programming language have caused computer architecture
to go to dogs ...

Lets not forget some FORTH chips have been to known to meltdown
without any attacks just unlucky coding.
Ben.
Is true the yodelling jellyfish makes me wait 45 seconds for pop up
window to open after clicking on a menu item like "OPEN FILE"?



Re: Vulnerabilities (Was: [Simh] Fwd: VAX + Spectre

2019-09-17 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 21:09, Fred Cisin via cctalk
 wrote:

> One student (who later became my best friend and buddy)
> skipped the technical details and said, "The primary design error for
> MacOS and Windoze (sic) is that they placed a lower priority on security,
> than on being able to transparently and without user action, add
> smell-o-vision, dancing kangaroos and yodelling jellyfish."

«
> Windows _is_ Bells and Whistles, plus a couple of gongs.

Don't forget the horns, the custard pies and the water-powered whirling
knives.

-- mlooney and Red Drag Diva
»

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Re: Vulnerabilities (Was: [Simh] Fwd: VAX + Spectre

2019-09-17 Thread allison via cctalk
On 9/17/19 3:08 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Sep 2019, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
>> I could easily imagine a computer science exam question "Describe in
>> one paragraph the specific design error that enabled the Meltdown
>> attack".
> 
> I used to have some related questions in my microcomputer operating
> systems class.  One student (who later became my best friend and buddy)
> skipped the technical details and said, "The primary design error for
> MacOS and Windoze (sic) is that they placed a lower priority on
> security, than on being able to transparently and without user action,
> add smell-o-vision, dancing kangaroos and yodelling jellyfish."
> 
> (YES, that's where I got that phrase from.)

Fred,
I love it.

My feeling is if you don't stop the mongrel hordes at the door you've
lost. After all wasn't it Vonada that indicated computer are at best
partially tested?

Allison


Vulnerabilities (Was: [Simh] Fwd: VAX + Spectre

2019-09-17 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk

On Tue, 17 Sep 2019, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
I could easily imagine a computer science exam question "Describe in one 
paragraph the specific design error that enabled the Meltdown attack".


I used to have some related questions in my microcomputer operating 
systems class.  One student (who later became my best friend and buddy) 
skipped the technical details and said, "The primary design error for 
MacOS and Windoze (sic) is that they placed a lower priority on security, 
than on being able to transparently and without user action, add 
smell-o-vision, dancing kangaroos and yodelling jellyfish."


(YES, that's where I got that phrase from.)