Re: cctalk Digest, Vol 42, Issue 14

[Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk]

> On Mar 14, 2018, at 2:03 PM, Fred via cctalk  wrote:
> 
> 
>> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:28:11 -0600
>> From: Grant Taylor 
>> Subject: Re: cctalk Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13
>> Message-ID:
>>  <6a172546-d8f1-13b9-f843-8fdba5799...@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net>
>> 
>> If power / cooling / noise wasn't an issue, I'd also be interested in an
>> Multiprise 3000.
> 
>> But, I'm happily married and I would like to keep it that way.
> 
> The power requirements aren't that bad, are they?
> 
> I think Guy Sotomayor (spelling, apologies if I'm butchering ...) has a
> MP3K that I believe I bid against him on eBay once, and he ended up
> getting it (which made me feel a bit better).  It's what I call a 1/4
> fridge size.

Spelling’s correct!

Realistically, none of these are really that big power hogs.  MP3K runs on a
normal 120v/20A circuit (I believe it’s about ~1500W when fully configured).

I don’t run it 24/7 (actually I haven’t run it in a while…too much other stuff 
going
on at the moment).

My 4331 (whose peripherals required 208v 3-phase) all told needs ~20KVA.
That *will* put a dent in my power bill.

> 
> There were/are multi MP3K's on eBay currently that I've been watching, and
> one didn't know if there was an OS on it (Not sure I'd want to fight that
> battle with IBM, although a corner of the Internet lengthy forum post
> (yes, anecdotes are not evidence) leads me to believe they at least are
> "sympathetic" to hobbyists, but they won't publically admit it.   ... but
> I still didn't want to chance getting a paperweight.  The other one is way
> too much for me $ wise.

I think one of them is an Enterprise Server and not an MP3K.

> 
> I have a basement and 220V available.   For an IBM Mainframe of my own,
> damn the power bill.  :)   As long as it doesn't have the awful whine of
> an Alpha DS10-L I don't think my wife would mind.

That’s also why all of my “stuff” (junk as my wife calls it) is in a separate 
building
on our property.  Out of sight/out of mind.  ;-)

My shop has dedicated 220V @ 200A, so I have a “reasonable” amount of power.  
;-)

> 
> I will admit to myself that at some point there will be a limit to how
> many systems I can have at the house though running 24/7 :)

;-)

The only stuff that I run 24/7 is my network infrastructure, work machines
and my iMac that is our media server (which is getting perilously close to
completely filling a 16TB RAID).

TTFN - Guy

Re: cctalk Digest, Vol 42, Issue 14

[Fred via cctalk]

> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:28:11 -0600
> From: Grant Taylor 
> Subject: Re: cctalk Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13
> Message-ID:
>   <6a172546-d8f1-13b9-f843-8fdba5799...@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net>
>
> If power / cooling / noise wasn't an issue, I'd also be interested in an
> Multiprise 3000.

> But, I'm happily married and I would like to keep it that way.

The power requirements aren't that bad, are they?

I think Guy Sotomayor (spelling, apologies if I'm butchering ...) has a
MP3K that I believe I bid against him on eBay once, and he ended up
getting it (which made me feel a bit better).  It's what I call a 1/4
fridge size.

There were/are multi MP3K's on eBay currently that I've been watching, and
one didn't know if there was an OS on it (Not sure I'd want to fight that
battle with IBM, although a corner of the Internet lengthy forum post
(yes, anecdotes are not evidence) leads me to believe they at least are
"sympathetic" to hobbyists, but they won't publically admit it.   ... but
I still didn't want to chance getting a paperweight.  The other one is way
too much for me $ wise.

I have a basement and 220V available.   For an IBM Mainframe of my own,
damn the power bill.  :)   As long as it doesn't have the awful whine of
an Alpha DS10-L I don't think my wife would mind.

I will admit to myself that at some point there will be a limit to how
many systems I can have at the house though running 24/7 :)

Fred