Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

2018-12-05 Thread Rico Pajarola via cctalk
I have a Fujitsu Leia2 S-4. Does anyone have a manual for it? (even if it's
Japanese)

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 2:03 AM Chris Hanson via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> There are also the Fujitsu LeiA SPARC portables. I’ve used OPENSTEP 4.2 on
> one…
>
>   -- Chris
>
> > On Dec 3, 2018, at 8:45 PM, Alan Perry via cctalk 
> wrote:
> >
> > A company called RDI made the Britelite and Powerlite laptops. They
> eventually merged with Tadpole, which made its own SPARC laptops
> (SPARCbooks). As someone else mentioned, there were different Britelite
> models based on the various Sun lunchbox system boards. When I had my
> Britelite IPX on display on VCF, someone told me that they recognized the
> case as something used in another laptop.
> >
> > Sun never made their own laptop, but they made a portable called the
> SPARCstation Voyager.
> >
> > On 12/3/18 7:33 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
> >> Very Nice collection! Yes  have to love that  laptop. Did not know  SUN
> made one. or  I  guess a third  party  put the  Sun  goodies in a case of
> their  design?  either way   NEAT!
> >>
> >>
> >> Seeing   a  nice  run of  systems like this in wonderful condition  is
> great!
> >>
> >>
> >> Ed#
> >>
> >> In a message dated 12/2/2018 5:49:49 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
> >>
> >> I will have to get back with you on the audio. It is on offline backup
> >> media and I need to find it.
> >>
> >> Here is a link to some photos of the exhibit -
> >> https://photos.app.goo.gl/7qC8UbEYCeCf9CBo7
> >>
> >> The RDI Britelite (laptop) is a SPARCstation IPX system board in a
> >> laptop chassis. It was in the Day 1 exhibit, but not the Day 2 exhibit
> >> because the power adapter died on the morning of the second day.
> >>
> >> One of the photos is an opened-up SPARCstation LX, which is very similar
> >> on the inside to your IPC.
> >>
> >> My exhibit next year will be on early 90s SPARC clones.
> >>
> >> alan
> >>
> >> On 12/2/18 1:43 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
> >> > Alan...   would   love  a  copy  of  the  audio  for  our archives
> here.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Would  like to  see pix  of  your  display too  sounds neat!
> >> >
> >> > Any  other   files  text  or  otherwise  welcome  also  to  this
> address   or  drop  us a   dropbox  link
> >> >
> >> > The  Sun  workstations  I  never  knew too much  about as at the
> time   did not  seems  like  old  history  nor  did  we use any  so playing
> catchup!
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in  advance...
> >> >
> >> > Ed#
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > In a message dated 12/2/2018 12:44:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> cctalk@classiccmp.org  writes:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > There is only room for drives in the top half of the chassis.  The PSU
> >> > and an assembly that holds the drives fills the top half. A 3.5"
> >> > half-height drive fits in one side of the assembly and a 3.5" floppy
> >> > drive fits in the other. The PSU cables go from the rear to the front
> of
> >> > that side of the chassis, below the FDD (when the chassis is closed).
> >> >
> >> > I did an exhibit on Sun lunchbox systems, including the IPC (4/40),
> for
> >> > PNW VCF earlier this year. I looked for press kits, posters, etc. to
> use
> >> > in the exhibit, but could only find text files. I know people who
> worked
> >> > at Sun on the development of those early SPARCstations and none of
> them
> >> > had any of that kind of material.
> >> >
> >> > I had an audio cassette "Introducing the IPC" for Sun sales. I donated
> >> > it to CHM this year (but I ripped the audio before I sent it to them).
> >> >
> >> > alan
> >> >
> >> > On 12/2/18 10:13 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
> >> >> Thanks  for the  info  to  get it  open!  when  back at the  office
>  shall   do that..   there  may  be  drives in 2 places -  on board and
> the off board  one. Always interesting to  explore  something   one  has
> only  read  about!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Along the   same  line  of  UNIX   stuff   we  have a COBALT   1U
> Pretty  blue  sever and a  COBALT  CUBE.  I  do remember   lusting  after
> one of these   1U  COBALT  servers when they  were  current didn't  have
> anything in  the  budget back then  though  for  one.  I  have  been  told
> SUN eventually ended up  owning COBALT.
> >> >>
> >> >> As  will all that   wehave  we  are  looking  for any  ad
> slicks   press kitsposters,  wild artwork   for the  Sun $/40,and
> the  2  COBALT  machines..
> >> >>
> >> >> Ed Sharpe archivist  for SMECC www.smecc.org 
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:15:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> ape...@snowmoose.com  writes:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes. It is next to floppy in the upper half of the chassis. There is
> a 50-pin (IDC connectors) ribbon cable that goes down to system board at
> the bottom of the lower half of the chassis. The chassis splits in the
> vertical 

Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

2018-12-05 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
There are some sparcstation voyagers for sale on ebay. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WORKING-Rare-SUN-Voyager-SPARCstation-Model-146/131537725894?hash=item1ea04269c6:g:xAoAAOSwBLlVgLN8

Wayne


> On Dec 4, 2018, at 9:05 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> https://janit.iki.fi/docs/SPARCstationVoyagerJTF.pdf
> 
> 
> This   document shows  some   data  on  this   unit.  It is  like the  design 
>  of  today's  ALL IN ONE   computers  offering an uncluttered   footprint on 
> the   desk  top.   Never saw  one of these  either in person!
> Another NEAT  one!   Ed#
>  
>  
> In a message dated 12/3/2018 9:45:53 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
> ape...@snowmoose.com writes:
> 
>  
> A company called RDI made the Britelite and Powerlite laptops. They 
> eventually merged with Tadpole, which made its own SPARC laptops 
> (SPARCbooks). As someone else mentioned, there were different Britelite 
> models based on the various Sun lunchbox system boards. When I had my 
> Britelite IPX on display on VCF, someone told me that they recognized the 
> case as something used in another laptop.
> 
> Sun never made their own laptop, but they made a portable called the 
> SPARCstation Voyager.
> 
> On 12/3/18 7:33 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
> Very Nice collection!Yes  have to love that  laptop. Did not know  SUN 
> made one. or  I  guess a third  party  put the  Sun  goodies in a case of 
> their  design?  either way   NEAT!
> 
> 
>  
> Seeing   a  nice  run  of  systems like this in wonderful condition  is  
> great!
>  
>  
> Ed#
>  
> In a message dated 12/2/2018 5:49:49 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
> cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
>  
> I will have to get back with you on the audio. It is on offline backup 
> 
> media and I need to find it.
> 
> Here is a link to some photos of the exhibit - 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/7qC8UbEYCeCf9CBo7
> 
> The RDI Britelite (laptop) is a SPARCstation IPX system board in a 
> laptop chassis. It was in the Day 1 exhibit, but not the Day 2 exhibit 
> because the power adapter died on the morning of the second day.
> 
> One of the photos is an opened-up SPARCstation LX, which is very similar 
> on the inside to your IPC.
> 
> My exhibit next year will be on early 90s SPARC clones.
> 
> alan
> 
>> On 12/2/18 1:43 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
>> Alan...   would   love  a  copy  of  the  audio  for  our  archives  here.
>> 
>> 
>> Would  like to  see pix  of  your  display too  sounds  neat!
>> 
>> Any  other   files  text  or  otherwise  welcome  also   to  this  address   
>> or  drop  us a   dropbox  link
>> 
>> The  Sun  workstations  I  never  knew too much  about as  at the time   did 
>> not  seems  like  old  history  nor  did  we  use any  so playing catchup!
>> 
>> Thanks in  advance...
>> 
>> Ed#
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> In a message dated 12/2/2018 12:44:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
>> cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> There is only room for drives in the top half of the chassis.  The PSU
>> and an assembly that holds the drives fills the top half. A 3.5"
>> half-height drive fits in one side of the assembly and a 3.5" floppy
>> drive fits in the other. The PSU cables go from the rear to the front of
>> that side of the chassis, below the FDD (when the chassis is closed).
>> 
>> I did an exhibit on Sun lunchbox systems, including the IPC (4/40), for
>> PNW VCF earlier this year. I looked for press kits, posters, etc. to use
>> in the exhibit, but could only find text files. I know people who worked
>> at Sun on the development of those early SPARCstations and none of them
>> had any of that kind of material.
>> 
>> I had an audio cassette "Introducing the IPC" for Sun sales. I donated
>> it to CHM this year (but I ripped the audio before I sent it to them).
>> 
>> alan
>> 
>>> On 12/2/18 10:13 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
>>> Thanks  for the  info  to  get it  open!  when  back at the  office   shall 
>>>   do that..   there  may  be  drives in 2 places -  on board and  the off 
>>> board  one. Always interesting to  explore  something   one  has  only  
>>> read  about!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Along the   same  line  of  UNIX   stuff   we  have a  COBALT   1U Pretty  
>>> blue  sever and a  COBALT  CUBE.  I  do remember   lusting  after  one of 
>>> these   1U  COBALT  servers when they  were  current didn't  have anything 
>>> in  the  budget  back then  though  for  one.  I  have  been  told  SUN  
>>> eventually ended up  owning COBALT.
>>> 
>>> As  will all that   wehave  we  are  looking  for  any  ad slicks   
>>> press kitsposters,  wild artwork   for  the  Sun $/40,and the  2  
>>> COBALT  machines..
>>> 
>>> Ed Sharpe archivist  for SMECC  www.smecc.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:15:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
>>> ape...@snowmoose.com writes:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes. It is next to floppy in the upper half of the chassis. There is a 
>>> 50-pin (IDC connectors) ribbon cable that goes down to system board at the 
>>> bottom of 

Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

2018-12-04 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
OK that is promising!

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail

On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 Chris Hanson  wrote:
Most Suns of that era don’t need intact NVRAM to run, you can just key in a few 
lines of Forth when you start it up (to set its Ethernet address and serial 
number), then tell it to boot off network/disk/CD, and it’ll be fine.

-- Chris

> 

On Dec 1, 2018, at 6:55 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk  wrote:
> 
> BUMMER
> It may become a static display.
> 
> Ed#
> 
> 
> In a message dated 12/1/2018 7:53:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
> cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
> 
> 
> A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM. 
> 
> Yes, one with the dreaded battery.
> 
> alan
> 
> On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
>> we were given this and a hard dribe a floor standimg decwriter. does 
>> this use NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed
>> 
>> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
> 



Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

2018-12-04 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
There are also the Fujitsu LeiA SPARC portables. I’ve used OPENSTEP 4.2 on one…

  -- Chris

> On Dec 3, 2018, at 8:45 PM, Alan Perry via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> A company called RDI made the Britelite and Powerlite laptops. They 
> eventually merged with Tadpole, which made its own SPARC laptops 
> (SPARCbooks). As someone else mentioned, there were different Britelite 
> models based on the various Sun lunchbox system boards. When I had my 
> Britelite IPX on display on VCF, someone told me that they recognized the 
> case as something used in another laptop.
> 
> Sun never made their own laptop, but they made a portable called the 
> SPARCstation Voyager.
> 
> On 12/3/18 7:33 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
>> Very Nice collection! Yes  have to love that  laptop. Did not know  SUN made 
>> one. or  I  guess a third  party  put the  Sun  goodies in a case of their  
>> design?  either way   NEAT!
>> 
>> 
>> Seeing   a  nice  run of  systems like this in wonderful condition  is  
>> great!
>> 
>> 
>> Ed#
>> 
>> In a message dated 12/2/2018 5:49:49 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
>> cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
>> 
>> I will have to get back with you on the audio. It is on offline backup
>> media and I need to find it.
>> 
>> Here is a link to some photos of the exhibit -
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/7qC8UbEYCeCf9CBo7
>> 
>> The RDI Britelite (laptop) is a SPARCstation IPX system board in a
>> laptop chassis. It was in the Day 1 exhibit, but not the Day 2 exhibit
>> because the power adapter died on the morning of the second day.
>> 
>> One of the photos is an opened-up SPARCstation LX, which is very similar
>> on the inside to your IPC.
>> 
>> My exhibit next year will be on early 90s SPARC clones.
>> 
>> alan
>> 
>> On 12/2/18 1:43 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
>> > Alan...   would   love  a  copy  of  the  audio  for  our archives  here.
>> >
>> >
>> > Would  like to  see pix  of  your  display too  sounds neat!
>> >
>> > Any  other   files  text  or  otherwise  welcome  also  to  this  address  
>> >  or  drop  us a   dropbox  link
>> >
>> > The  Sun  workstations  I  never  knew too much  about as at the time   
>> > did not  seems  like  old  history  nor  did  we use any  so playing 
>> > catchup!
>> >
>> > Thanks in  advance...
>> >
>> > Ed#
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > In a message dated 12/2/2018 12:44:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
>> > cctalk@classiccmp.org  writes:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > There is only room for drives in the top half of the chassis.  The PSU
>> > and an assembly that holds the drives fills the top half. A 3.5"
>> > half-height drive fits in one side of the assembly and a 3.5" floppy
>> > drive fits in the other. The PSU cables go from the rear to the front of
>> > that side of the chassis, below the FDD (when the chassis is closed).
>> >
>> > I did an exhibit on Sun lunchbox systems, including the IPC (4/40), for
>> > PNW VCF earlier this year. I looked for press kits, posters, etc. to use
>> > in the exhibit, but could only find text files. I know people who worked
>> > at Sun on the development of those early SPARCstations and none of them
>> > had any of that kind of material.
>> >
>> > I had an audio cassette "Introducing the IPC" for Sun sales. I donated
>> > it to CHM this year (but I ripped the audio before I sent it to them).
>> >
>> > alan
>> >
>> > On 12/2/18 10:13 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
>> >> Thanks  for the  info  to  get it  open!  when  back at the  office   
>> >> shall   do that..   there  may  be  drives in 2 places -  on board and  
>> >> the off board  one. Always interesting to  explore  something   one  has  
>> >> only  read  about!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Along the   same  line  of  UNIX   stuff   we  have a COBALT   1U Pretty  
>> >> blue  sever and a  COBALT  CUBE.  I  do remember   lusting  after  one of 
>> >> these   1U  COBALT  servers when they  were  current didn't  have 
>> >> anything in  the  budget back then  though  for  one.  I  have  been  
>> >> told  SUN eventually ended up  owning COBALT.
>> >>
>> >> As  will all that   wehave  we  are  looking  for any  ad slicks   
>> >> press kitsposters,  wild artwork   for the  Sun $/40,and the  2  
>> >> COBALT  machines..
>> >>
>> >> Ed Sharpe archivist  for SMECC www.smecc.org 
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:15:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
>> >> ape...@snowmoose.com  writes:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Yes. It is next to floppy in the upper half of the chassis. There is a 
>> >> 50-pin (IDC connectors) ribbon cable that goes down to system board at 
>> >> the bottom of the lower half of the chassis. The chassis splits in the 
>> >> vertical middle in a, if looking at the chassis, fairly obvious place. 
>> >> Because of the cables that run from the top to bottom, it effectively 
>> >> hinges at the front of the chassis. There a couple buttons on the side to 
>> >> release and sometimes a 

Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

2018-12-04 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
Most Suns of that era don’t need intact NVRAM to run, you can just key in a few 
lines of Forth when you start it up (to set its Ethernet address and serial 
number), then tell it to boot off network/disk/CD, and it’ll be fine.

  -- Chris

> On Dec 1, 2018, at 6:55 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> BUMMER
> It may become a static  display.
>  
> Ed#
>  
>  
> In a message dated 12/1/2018 7:53:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
> cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
> 
>  
> A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM. 
> 
> Yes, one with the dreaded battery.
> 
> alan
> 
> On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
>> we were given this and a hard dribe a floor standimg decwriter. does 
>> this use NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed
>> 
>> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
> 



Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

2018-12-04 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
https://janit.iki.fi/docs/SPARCstationVoyagerJTF.pdf


This   document shows  some   data  on  this   unit.  It is  like the  design  
of  today's  ALL IN ONE   computers  offering an uncluttered   footprint on the 
  desk  top.   Never saw  one of these  either in person!
Another NEAT  one!   Ed#
 
 
In a message dated 12/3/2018 9:45:53 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
ape...@snowmoose.com writes:

 
A company called RDI made the Britelite and Powerlite laptops. They eventually 
merged with Tadpole, which made its own SPARC laptops (SPARCbooks). As someone 
else mentioned, there were different Britelite models based on the various Sun 
lunchbox system boards. When I had my Britelite IPX on display on VCF, someone 
told me that they recognized the case as something used in another laptop.

Sun never made their own laptop, but they made a portable called the 
SPARCstation Voyager.

On 12/3/18 7:33 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
Very Nice collection!    Yes  have to love that  laptop. Did not know  SUN made 
one. or  I  guess a third  party  put the  Sun  goodies in a case of their  
design?  either way   NEAT!


 
Seeing   a  nice  run  of  systems like this in wonderful condition  is  great!
 
 
Ed#
 
In a message dated 12/2/2018 5:49:49 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
 
I will have to get back with you on the audio. It is on offline backup 

media and I need to find it.

Here is a link to some photos of the exhibit - 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/7qC8UbEYCeCf9CBo7

The RDI Britelite (laptop) is a SPARCstation IPX system board in a 
laptop chassis. It was in the Day 1 exhibit, but not the Day 2 exhibit 
because the power adapter died on the morning of the second day.

One of the photos is an opened-up SPARCstation LX, which is very similar 
on the inside to your IPC.

My exhibit next year will be on early 90s SPARC clones.

alan

On 12/2/18 1:43 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
> Alan...   would   love  a  copy  of  the  audio  for  our  archives  here.
>
>
> Would  like to  see pix  of  your  display too  sounds  neat!
> 
> Any  other   files  text  or  otherwise  welcome  also   to  this  address   
> or  drop  us a   dropbox  link
> 
> The  Sun  workstations  I  never  knew too much  about as  at the time   did 
> not  seems  like  old  history  nor  did  we  use any  so playing catchup!
> 
> Thanks in  advance...
> 
> Ed#
> 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 12/2/2018 12:44:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
> cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
>
> 
>
> There is only room for drives in the top half of the chassis.  The PSU
> and an assembly that holds the drives fills the top half. A 3.5"
> half-height drive fits in one side of the assembly and a 3.5" floppy
> drive fits in the other. The PSU cables go from the rear to the front of
> that side of the chassis, below the FDD (when the chassis is closed).
>
> I did an exhibit on Sun lunchbox systems, including the IPC (4/40), for
> PNW VCF earlier this year. I looked for press kits, posters, etc. to use
> in the exhibit, but could only find text files. I know people who worked
> at Sun on the development of those early SPARCstations and none of them
> had any of that kind of material.
>
> I had an audio cassette "Introducing the IPC" for Sun sales. I donated
> it to CHM this year (but I ripped the audio before I sent it to them).
>
> alan
>
> On 12/2/18 10:13 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
>> Thanks  for the  info  to  get it  open!  when  back at the  office   shall  
>>  do that..   there  may  be  drives in 2 places -  on board and  the off 
>> board  one. Always interesting to  explore  something   one  has  only  read 
>>  about!
>>
>>
>>
>> Along the   same  line  of  UNIX   stuff   we  have a  COBALT   1U Pretty  
>> blue  sever and a  COBALT  CUBE.  I  do remember   lusting  after  one of 
>> these   1U  COBALT  servers when they  were  current didn't  have anything 
>> in  the  budget  back then  though  for  one.  I  have  been  told  SUN  
>> eventually ended up  owning COBALT.
>>
>> As  will all that   we    have  we  are  looking  for  any  ad slicks   
>> press kits    posters,  wild artwork   for  the  Sun $/40,    and the  2  
>> COBALT  machines..
>>
>> Ed Sharpe archivist  for SMECC  www.smecc.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:15:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
>> ape...@snowmoose.com writes:
>>
>>
>> Yes. It is next to floppy in the upper half of the chassis. There is a 
>> 50-pin (IDC connectors) ribbon cable that goes down to system board at the 
>> bottom of the lower half of the chassis. The chassis splits in the vertical 
>> middle in a, if looking at the chassis, fairly obvious place. Because of the 
>> cables that run from the top to bottom, it effectively hinges at the front 
>> of the chassis. There a couple buttons on the side to release and sometimes 
>> a security cable bit to remove (phillips screw).
>>
>> On 12/1/18 7:08 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
>> Hi  Alan - The  hard drive is same  size cabinet    

Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

2018-12-04 Thread Ethan via cctalk
Sun never made their own laptop, but they made a portable called the 
SPARCstation Voyager.


I own a Voyager (Can bring it to the next VCF East if needed.) I have been 
looking for the padded bag that goes with it for a long time. Any leads 
appreciated!



- Ethan



Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

2018-12-03 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk




On 12/3/18 5:00 PM, Michael Thompson via cctech wrote:

Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2018 16:49:37 -0800
From: Alan Perry 
Subject: Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with
 battery?

The RDI Britelite (laptop) is a SPARCstation IPX system board in a
laptop chassis.


I have IPC, IPX, and LX versions of the RDI Britelite.


I was referring to the one in the photos, which is a Britelite IPX, 
explaining why it is in an exhibit of Sun lunchbox systems.






Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

2018-12-03 Thread Michael Thompson via cctalk
>
> Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2018 16:49:37 -0800
> From: Alan Perry 
> Subject: Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with
> battery?
>
> The RDI Britelite (laptop) is a SPARCstation IPX system board in a
> laptop chassis.
>

I have IPC, IPX, and LX versions of the RDI Britelite.

-- 
Michael Thompson


Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

2018-12-03 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
A company called RDI made the Britelite and Powerlite laptops. They 
eventually merged with Tadpole, which made its own SPARC laptops 
(SPARCbooks). As someone else mentioned, there were different Britelite 
models based on the various Sun lunchbox system boards. When I had my 
Britelite IPX on display on VCF, someone told me that they recognized 
the case as something used in another laptop.


Sun never made their own laptop, but they made a portable called the 
SPARCstation Voyager.


On 12/3/18 7:33 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
Very Nice collection! Yes  have to love that  laptop. Did not know  
SUN made one. or  I  guess a third  party  put the  Sun  goodies in a 
case of their  design?  either way   NEAT!



Seeing   a  nice  run of  systems like this in wonderful condition  
is  great!



Ed#

In a message dated 12/2/2018 5:49:49 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:


I will have to get back with you on the audio. It is on offline backup
media and I need to find it.

Here is a link to some photos of the exhibit -
https://photos.app.goo.gl/7qC8UbEYCeCf9CBo7

The RDI Britelite (laptop) is a SPARCstation IPX system board in a
laptop chassis. It was in the Day 1 exhibit, but not the Day 2 exhibit
because the power adapter died on the morning of the second day.

One of the photos is an opened-up SPARCstation LX, which is very similar
on the inside to your IPC.

My exhibit next year will be on early 90s SPARC clones.

alan

On 12/2/18 1:43 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
> Alan...   would   love  a  copy  of  the  audio  for  our archives  
here.

>
>
> Would  like to  see pix  of  your  display too  sounds neat!
>
> Any  other   files  text  or  otherwise  welcome  also  to  this  
address   or  drop  us a   dropbox  link

>
> The  Sun  workstations  I  never  knew too much  about as at the 
time   did not  seems  like  old  history  nor  did  we use any  so 
playing catchup!

>
> Thanks in  advance...
>
> Ed#
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/2/2018 12:44:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
cctalk@classiccmp.org  writes:

>
>
>
> There is only room for drives in the top half of the chassis.  The PSU
> and an assembly that holds the drives fills the top half. A 3.5"
> half-height drive fits in one side of the assembly and a 3.5" floppy
> drive fits in the other. The PSU cables go from the rear to the front of
> that side of the chassis, below the FDD (when the chassis is closed).
>
> I did an exhibit on Sun lunchbox systems, including the IPC (4/40), for
> PNW VCF earlier this year. I looked for press kits, posters, etc. to use
> in the exhibit, but could only find text files. I know people who worked
> at Sun on the development of those early SPARCstations and none of them
> had any of that kind of material.
>
> I had an audio cassette "Introducing the IPC" for Sun sales. I donated
> it to CHM this year (but I ripped the audio before I sent it to them).
>
> alan
>
> On 12/2/18 10:13 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
>> Thanks  for the  info  to  get it  open!  when  back at the  
office   shall   do that..   there  may  be  drives in 2 places -  on 
board and  the off board  one. Always interesting to  explore  
something   one  has  only  read  about!

>>
>>
>>
>> Along the   same  line  of  UNIX   stuff   we  have a COBALT   1U 
Pretty  blue  sever and a  COBALT  CUBE.  I  do remember   lusting  
after  one of these   1U  COBALT  servers when they  were  current 
didn't  have anything in  the  budget back then  though  for  one.  I  
have  been  told  SUN eventually ended up  owning COBALT.

>>
>> As  will all that   we    have  we  are  looking  for any  ad 
slicks   press kits    posters,  wild artwork   for the  Sun $/40,    
and the  2  COBALT  machines..

>>
>> Ed Sharpe archivist  for SMECC www.smecc.org 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:15:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
ape...@snowmoose.com  writes:

>>
>>
>> Yes. It is next to floppy in the upper half of the chassis. There 
is a 50-pin (IDC connectors) ribbon cable that goes down to system 
board at the bottom of the lower half of the chassis. The chassis 
splits in the vertical middle in a, if looking at the chassis, fairly 
obvious place. Because of the cables that run from the top to bottom, 
it effectively hinges at the front of the chassis. There a couple 
buttons on the side to release and sometimes a security cable bit to 
remove (phillips screw).

>>
>> On 12/1/18 7:08 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
>> Hi  Alan - The  hard drive is same  size cabinet with  I  guess 
a  SCSSI   cable.  I  will have  to  look  at it   further...   wonder 
if starting it  out on  a  variac  would  help the capacitors  like  
I  do  with the old radio sets  here in the museum  ed#

>>
>>
>> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:04:03 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
>> ape...@snowmoose.com  writes:
>>
>> Well, as I said, in my experience, 

Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

2018-12-03 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Very Nice collection!    Yes  have to love that  laptop. Did not know  SUN made 
one. or  I  guess a third  party  put the  Sun  goodies in a case of their  
design?  either way   NEAT!


 
Seeing   a  nice  run  of  systems like this in wonderful condition  is  great!
 
 
Ed#
 
In a message dated 12/2/2018 5:49:49 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:

 
I will have to get back with you on the audio. It is on offline backup 

media and I need to find it.

Here is a link to some photos of the exhibit - 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/7qC8UbEYCeCf9CBo7

The RDI Britelite (laptop) is a SPARCstation IPX system board in a 
laptop chassis. It was in the Day 1 exhibit, but not the Day 2 exhibit 
because the power adapter died on the morning of the second day.

One of the photos is an opened-up SPARCstation LX, which is very similar 
on the inside to your IPC.

My exhibit next year will be on early 90s SPARC clones.

alan

On 12/2/18 1:43 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
> Alan...   would   love  a  copy  of  the  audio  for  our  archives  here.
>
>
> Would  like to  see pix  of  your  display too  sounds  neat!
> 
> Any  other   files  text  or  otherwise  welcome  also   to  this  address   
> or  drop  us a   dropbox  link
> 
> The  Sun  workstations  I  never  knew too much  about as  at the time   did 
> not  seems  like  old  history  nor  did  we  use any  so playing catchup!
> 
> Thanks in  advance...
> 
> Ed#
> 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 12/2/2018 12:44:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
> cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
>
> 
>
> There is only room for drives in the top half of the chassis.  The PSU
> and an assembly that holds the drives fills the top half. A 3.5"
> half-height drive fits in one side of the assembly and a 3.5" floppy
> drive fits in the other. The PSU cables go from the rear to the front of
> that side of the chassis, below the FDD (when the chassis is closed).
>
> I did an exhibit on Sun lunchbox systems, including the IPC (4/40), for
> PNW VCF earlier this year. I looked for press kits, posters, etc. to use
> in the exhibit, but could only find text files. I know people who worked
> at Sun on the development of those early SPARCstations and none of them
> had any of that kind of material.
>
> I had an audio cassette "Introducing the IPC" for Sun sales. I donated
> it to CHM this year (but I ripped the audio before I sent it to them).
>
> alan
>
> On 12/2/18 10:13 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
>> Thanks  for the  info  to  get it  open!  when  back at the  office   shall  
>>  do that..   there  may  be  drives in 2 places -  on board and  the off 
>> board  one. Always interesting to  explore  something   one  has  only  read 
>>  about!
>>
>>
>>
>> Along the   same  line  of  UNIX   stuff   we  have a  COBALT   1U Pretty  
>> blue  sever and a  COBALT  CUBE.  I  do remember   lusting  after  one of 
>> these   1U  COBALT  servers when they  were  current didn't  have anything 
>> in  the  budget  back then  though  for  one.  I  have  been  told  SUN  
>> eventually ended up  owning COBALT.
>>
>> As  will all that   we    have  we  are  looking  for  any  ad slicks   
>> press kits    posters,  wild artwork   for  the  Sun $/40,    and the  2  
>> COBALT  machines..
>>
>> Ed Sharpe archivist  for SMECC  www.smecc.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:15:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
>> ape...@snowmoose.com writes:
>>
>>
>> Yes. It is next to floppy in the upper half of the chassis. There is a 
>> 50-pin (IDC connectors) ribbon cable that goes down to system board at the 
>> bottom of the lower half of the chassis. The chassis splits in the vertical 
>> middle in a, if looking at the chassis, fairly obvious place. Because of the 
>> cables that run from the top to bottom, it effectively hinges at the front 
>> of the chassis. There a couple buttons on the side to release and sometimes 
>> a security cable bit to remove (phillips screw).
>>
>> On 12/1/18 7:08 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
>> Hi  Alan - The  hard drive is same  size cabinet    with  I  guess a  
>> SCSSI   cable.  I  will have  to  look  at  it   further...   wonder if 
>> starting it  out on  a  variac   would  help the capacitors  like  I  do  
>> with the old radio sets  here in the museum  ed#
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:04:03 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
>> ape...@snowmoose.com writes:
>>
>> Well, as I said, in my experience, the NVRAMs that you can buy new from 
>> Mouser work good enough. And the mod to the original battery isn't that hard 
>> to make.
>>
>> In my experience with IPCs, the bigger problem is the power supplies. If the 
>> PS on the IPC that you have now doesn't need to be re'capped now, it will 
>> need it soon. After that will likely be the HDD that needs work. Almost all 
>> of my HDDs that originally shipped with lunchbox systems up to the 424 meg 
>> (ST1480N) have died. The price for working 50-pin SCSI HDDs are at a point 
>> that SD2SCSI parts make 

Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

2018-12-02 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
I will have to get back with you on the audio. It is on offline backup 
media and I need to find it.


Here is a link to some photos of the exhibit - 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/7qC8UbEYCeCf9CBo7


The RDI Britelite (laptop) is a SPARCstation IPX system board in a 
laptop chassis. It was in the Day 1 exhibit, but not the Day 2 exhibit 
because the power adapter died on the morning of the second day.


One of the photos is an opened-up SPARCstation LX, which is very similar 
on the inside to your IPC.


My exhibit next year will be on early 90s SPARC clones.

alan

On 12/2/18 1:43 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:

Alan...   would   love  a  copy  of  the  audio  for  our  archives  here.


Would  like to  see pix  of  your  display too  sounds  neat!
  
Any  other   files  text  or  otherwise  welcome  also   to  this  address   or  drop  us a   dropbox  link
  
The  Sun  workstations  I  never  knew too much  about as  at the time   did not  seems  like  old  history  nor  did  we  use any  so playing catchup!
  
Thanks in  advance...
  
Ed#
  
  
  
In a message dated 12/2/2018 12:44:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:


  


There is only room for drives in the top half of the chassis.  The PSU
and an assembly that holds the drives fills the top half. A 3.5"
half-height drive fits in one side of the assembly and a 3.5" floppy
drive fits in the other. The PSU cables go from the rear to the front of
that side of the chassis, below the FDD (when the chassis is closed).

I did an exhibit on Sun lunchbox systems, including the IPC (4/40), for
PNW VCF earlier this year. I looked for press kits, posters, etc. to use
in the exhibit, but could only find text files. I know people who worked
at Sun on the development of those early SPARCstations and none of them
had any of that kind of material.

I had an audio cassette "Introducing the IPC" for Sun sales. I donated
it to CHM this year (but I ripped the audio before I sent it to them).

alan

On 12/2/18 10:13 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:

Thanks  for the  info  to  get it  open!  when  back at the  office   shall   
do that..   there  may  be  drives in 2 places -  on board and  the off board  
one. Always interesting to  explore  something   one  has  only  read  about!



Along the   same  line  of  UNIX   stuff   we  have a  COBALT   1U Pretty  blue 
 sever and a  COBALT  CUBE.  I  do remember   lusting  after  one of these   1U 
 COBALT  servers when they  were  current didn't  have anything in  the  budget 
 back then  though  for  one.  I  have  been  told  SUN  eventually ended up  
owning COBALT.

As  will all that   we    have  we  are  looking  for  any  ad slicks   press 
kits    posters,  wild artwork   for  the  Sun $/40,    and the  2  COBALT  
machines..

Ed Sharpe archivist  for SMECC  www.smecc.org




In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:15:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
ape...@snowmoose.com writes:


Yes. It is next to floppy in the upper half of the chassis. There is a 50-pin 
(IDC connectors) ribbon cable that goes down to system board at the bottom of 
the lower half of the chassis. The chassis splits in the vertical middle in a, 
if looking at the chassis, fairly obvious place. Because of the cables that run 
from the top to bottom, it effectively hinges at the front of the chassis. 
There a couple buttons on the side to release and sometimes a security cable 
bit to remove (phillips screw).

On 12/1/18 7:08 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
Hi  Alan - The  hard drive is same  size cabinet    with  I  guess a  SCSSI 
  cable.  I  will have  to  look  at  it   further...   wonder if starting it  
out on  a  variac   would  help the capacitors  like  I  do  with the old radio 
sets  here in the museum  ed#


In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:04:03 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
ape...@snowmoose.com writes:

Well, as I said, in my experience, the NVRAMs that you can buy new from Mouser 
work good enough. And the mod to the original battery isn't that hard to make.

In my experience with IPCs, the bigger problem is the power supplies. If the PS 
on the IPC that you have now doesn't need to be re'capped now, it will need it 
soon. After that will likely be the HDD that needs work. Almost all of my HDDs 
that originally shipped with lunchbox systems up to the 424 meg (ST1480N) have 
died. The price for working 50-pin SCSI HDDs are at a point that SD2SCSI parts 
make more sense (unless you want to exhibit them as they originally ran).

alan

On 12/1/18 6:55 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
BUMMER
It may become a static  display.

Ed#


In a message dated 12/1/2018 7:53:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:

A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM.

Yes, one with the dreaded battery.

alan

On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:

we were given this and a hard dribe a floor standimg decwriter. does this 
use NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail




Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

2018-12-02 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Alan...   would   love  a  copy  of  the  audio  for  our  archives  here.


Would  like to  see pix  of  your  display too  sounds  neat!
 
Any  other   files  text  or  otherwise  welcome  also   to  this  address   or 
 drop  us a   dropbox  link
 
The  Sun  workstations  I  never  knew too much  about as  at the time   did 
not  seems  like  old  history  nor  did  we  use any  so playing catchup! 
 
Thanks in  advance...
 
Ed#
 
 
 
In a message dated 12/2/2018 12:44:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:

 

There is only room for drives in the top half of the chassis.  The PSU 
and an assembly that holds the drives fills the top half. A 3.5" 
half-height drive fits in one side of the assembly and a 3.5" floppy 
drive fits in the other. The PSU cables go from the rear to the front of 
that side of the chassis, below the FDD (when the chassis is closed).

I did an exhibit on Sun lunchbox systems, including the IPC (4/40), for 
PNW VCF earlier this year. I looked for press kits, posters, etc. to use 
in the exhibit, but could only find text files. I know people who worked 
at Sun on the development of those early SPARCstations and none of them 
had any of that kind of material.

I had an audio cassette "Introducing the IPC" for Sun sales. I donated 
it to CHM this year (but I ripped the audio before I sent it to them).

alan

On 12/2/18 10:13 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
> Thanks  for the  info  to  get it  open!  when  back at the  office   shall   
> do that..   there  may  be  drives in 2 places -  on board and  the off board 
>  one. Always interesting to  explore  something   one  has  only  read  about!
>
>
> 
> Along the   same  line  of  UNIX   stuff   we  have a  COBALT   1U Pretty  
> blue  sever and a  COBALT  CUBE.  I  do remember   lusting  after  one of 
> these   1U  COBALT  servers when they  were  current didn't  have anything in 
>  the  budget  back then  though  for  one.  I  have  been  told  SUN  
> eventually ended up  owning COBALT.
> 
> As  will all that   we    have  we  are  looking  for  any  ad slicks   press 
> kits    posters,  wild artwork   for  the  Sun $/40,    and the  2  COBALT  
> machines..
> 
> Ed Sharpe archivist  for SMECC  www.smecc.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:15:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
> ape...@snowmoose.com writes:
>
> 
> Yes. It is next to floppy in the upper half of the chassis. There is a 50-pin 
> (IDC connectors) ribbon cable that goes down to system board at the bottom of 
> the lower half of the chassis. The chassis splits in the vertical middle in 
> a, if looking at the chassis, fairly obvious place. Because of the cables 
> that run from the top to bottom, it effectively hinges at the front of the 
> chassis. There a couple buttons on the side to release and sometimes a 
> security cable bit to remove (phillips screw).
>
> On 12/1/18 7:08 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
> Hi  Alan - The  hard drive is same  size cabinet    with  I  guess a  
> SCSSI   cable.  I  will have  to  look  at  it   further...   wonder if 
> starting it  out on  a  variac   would  help the capacitors  like  I  do  
> with the old radio sets  here in the museum  ed#
>
>
> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:04:03 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> ape...@snowmoose.com writes:
> 
> Well, as I said, in my experience, the NVRAMs that you can buy new from 
> Mouser work good enough. And the mod to the original battery isn't that hard 
> to make.
>
> In my experience with IPCs, the bigger problem is the power supplies. If the 
> PS on the IPC that you have now doesn't need to be re'capped now, it will 
> need it soon. After that will likely be the HDD that needs work. Almost all 
> of my HDDs that originally shipped with lunchbox systems up to the 424 meg 
> (ST1480N) have died. The price for working 50-pin SCSI HDDs are at a point 
> that SD2SCSI parts make more sense (unless you want to exhibit them as they 
> originally ran).
>
> alan
>
> On 12/1/18 6:55 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
> BUMMER
> It may become a static  display.
> 
> Ed#
> 
> 
> In a message dated 12/1/2018 7:53:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
> 
> A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM.
>
> Yes, one with the dreaded battery.
>
> alan
>
> On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
>> we were given this and a hard dribe a floor standimg decwriter. does 
>> this use NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed
>>
>> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail



Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

2018-12-02 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk



There is only room for drives in the top half of the chassis.  The PSU 
and an assembly that holds the drives fills the top half. A 3.5" 
half-height drive fits in one side of the assembly and a 3.5" floppy 
drive fits in the other. The PSU cables go from the rear to the front of 
that side of the chassis, below the FDD (when the chassis is closed).


I did an exhibit on Sun lunchbox systems, including the IPC (4/40), for 
PNW VCF earlier this year. I looked for press kits, posters, etc. to use 
in the exhibit, but could only find text files. I know people who worked 
at Sun on the development of those early SPARCstations and none of them 
had any of that kind of material.


I had an audio cassette "Introducing the IPC" for Sun sales. I donated 
it to CHM this year (but I ripped the audio before I sent it to them).


alan

On 12/2/18 10:13 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:

Thanks  for the  info  to  get it  open!  when  back at the  office   shall   
do that..   there  may  be  drives in 2 places -  on board and  the off board  
one. Always interesting to  explore  something   one  has  only  read  about!


  
Along the   same  line  of  UNIX   stuff   we  have a  COBALT   1U Pretty  blue  sever and a  COBALT  CUBE.  I  do remember   lusting  after  one of these   1U  COBALT  servers when they  were  current didn't  have anything in  the  budget  back then  though  for  one.  I  have  been  told  SUN  eventually ended up  owning COBALT.
  
As  will all that   we    have  we  are  looking  for  any  ad slicks   press kits    posters,  wild artwork   for  the  Sun $/40,    and the  2  COBALT  machines..
  
Ed Sharpe archivist  for SMECC  www.smecc.org
  
  
  
  
In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:15:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, ape...@snowmoose.com writes:


  
Yes. It is next to floppy in the upper half of the chassis. There is a 50-pin (IDC connectors) ribbon cable that goes down to system board at the bottom of the lower half of the chassis. The chassis splits in the vertical middle in a, if looking at the chassis, fairly obvious place. Because of the cables that run from the top to bottom, it effectively hinges at the front of the chassis. There a couple buttons on the side to release and sometimes a security cable bit to remove (phillips screw).


On 12/1/18 7:08 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
Hi  Alan - The  hard drive is same  size cabinet    with  I  guess a  SCSSI 
  cable.  I  will have  to  look  at  it   further...   wonder if starting it  
out on  a  variac   would  help the capacitors  like  I  do  with the old radio 
sets  here in the museum  ed#


In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:04:03 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
ape...@snowmoose.com writes:
  
Well, as I said, in my experience, the NVRAMs that you can buy new from Mouser work good enough. And the mod to the original battery isn't that hard to make.


In my experience with IPCs, the bigger problem is the power supplies. If the PS 
on the IPC that you have now doesn't need to be re'capped now, it will need it 
soon. After that will likely be the HDD that needs work. Almost all of my HDDs 
that originally shipped with lunchbox systems up to the 424 meg (ST1480N) have 
died. The price for working 50-pin SCSI HDDs are at a point that SD2SCSI parts 
make more sense (unless you want to exhibit them as they originally ran).

alan

On 12/1/18 6:55 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
BUMMER
It may become a static  display.
  
Ed#
  
  
In a message dated 12/1/2018 7:53:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time,

cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
  
A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM.


Yes, one with the dreaded battery.

alan

On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:

we were given this and a hard dribe a floor standimg decwriter. does this 
use NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed

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Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

2018-12-02 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Thanks  for the  info  to  get it  open!  when  back at the  office   shall   
do that..   there  may  be  drives in 2 places -  on board and  the off board  
one. Always interesting to  explore  something   one  has  only  read  about!


 
Along the   same  line  of  UNIX   stuff   we  have a  COBALT   1U Pretty  blue 
 sever and a  COBALT  CUBE.  I  do remember   lusting  after  one of these   1U 
 COBALT  servers when they  were  current didn't  have anything in  the  budget 
 back then  though  for  one.  I  have  been  told  SUN  eventually ended up  
owning COBALT.
 
As  will all that   we    have  we  are  looking  for  any  ad slicks   press 
kits    posters,  wild artwork   for  the  Sun $/40,    and the  2  COBALT  
machines..
 
Ed Sharpe archivist  for SMECC  www.smecc.org
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:15:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
ape...@snowmoose.com writes:

 
Yes. It is next to floppy in the upper half of the chassis. There is a 50-pin 
(IDC connectors) ribbon cable that goes down to system board at the bottom of 
the lower half of the chassis. The chassis splits in the vertical middle in a, 
if looking at the chassis, fairly obvious place. Because of the cables that run 
from the top to bottom, it effectively hinges at the front of the chassis. 
There a couple buttons on the side to release and sometimes a security cable 
bit to remove (phillips screw).

On 12/1/18 7:08 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
Hi  Alan - The  hard drive is same  size cabinet    with  I  guess a  SCSSI 
  cable.  I  will have  to  look  at  it   further...   wonder if starting it  
out on  a  variac   would  help the capacitors  like  I  do  with the old radio 
sets  here in the museum  ed#  


In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:04:03 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
ape...@snowmoose.com writes:
 
Well, as I said, in my experience, the NVRAMs that you can buy new from Mouser 
work good enough. And the mod to the original battery isn't that hard to make.

In my experience with IPCs, the bigger problem is the power supplies. If the PS 
on the IPC that you have now doesn't need to be re'capped now, it will need it 
soon. After that will likely be the HDD that needs work. Almost all of my HDDs 
that originally shipped with lunchbox systems up to the 424 meg (ST1480N) have 
died. The price for working 50-pin SCSI HDDs are at a point that SD2SCSI parts 
make more sense (unless you want to exhibit them as they originally ran).

alan

On 12/1/18 6:55 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
BUMMER
It may become a static  display.
 
Ed#
 
 
In a message dated 12/1/2018 7:53:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
 
A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM. 

Yes, one with the dreaded battery.

alan

On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
> we were given this and a hard dribe a floor standimg decwriter. does this 
> use NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail



Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

2018-12-02 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Yes  separate.     - will  have to  see  who  made it   may  be  third  party 
pr  may  be  sun?   Ed#


In a message dated 12/2/2018 8:02:32 AM US Mountain Standard Time, 
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:

 
lör 2018-12-01 klockan 22:08 -0500 skrev ED SHARPE via cctalk:

> Hi Alan - The hard drive is same size cabinet with I 
> guess a SCSSI cable. I will have to look at it further... 
> wonder if starting it out on a variac would help the
> capacitors like I do with the old radio sets here in the museum 
> ed# 
> 
> 

Is the hard drive inside a lunchbox separate from the CPU's one ?

The CPU box do as someone else said have space for a halfheight device.
But the PSU is obviously probably in bad shape...

Those things (ie the IPC) had a habit of dying already in 1995



Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

2018-12-02 Thread Stefan Skoglund via cctalk
lör 2018-12-01 klockan 22:08 -0500 skrev ED SHARPE via cctalk:
> Hi  Alan - The  hard drive is same  size cabinetwith  I 
> guess a  SCSSI   cable.  I  will have  to  look  at  it   further... 
>  wonder if starting it  out on  a  variac   would  help the
> capacitors  like  I  do  with the old radio sets  here in the museum 
> ed#  
> 
> 

Is the hard drive inside a lunchbox separate from the CPU's one ?

The CPU box do as someone else said have space for a halfheight device.
But the PSU is obviously probably in bad shape...

Those things (ie the IPC) had a habit of dying already in 1995



Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

2018-12-01 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
Yes. It is next to floppy in the upper half of the chassis. There is a 
50-pin (IDC connectors) ribbon cable that goes down to system board at 
the bottom of the lower half of the chassis. The chassis splits in the 
vertical middle in a, if looking at the chassis, fairly obvious place. 
Because of the cables that run from the top to bottom, it effectively 
hinges at the front of the chassis. There a couple buttons on the side 
to release and sometimes a security cable bit to remove (phillips screw).


On 12/1/18 7:08 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
Hi  Alan - The  hard drive is same  size cabinet    with  I  guess 
a SCSSI   cable.  I  will have  to  look  at  it  further...   wonder 
if starting it  out on  a  variac  would  help the capacitors  like  
I  do  with the old radio sets  here in the museum  ed#


In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:04:03 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
ape...@snowmoose.com writes:


Well, as I said, in my experience, the NVRAMs that you can buy new 
from Mouser work good enough. And the mod to the original battery 
isn't that hard to make.


In my experience with IPCs, the bigger problem is the power supplies. 
If the PS on the IPC that you have now doesn't need to be re'capped 
now, it will need it soon. After that will likely be the HDD that 
needs work. Almost all of my HDDs that originally shipped with 
lunchbox systems up to the 424 meg (ST1480N) have died. The price for 
working 50-pin SCSI HDDs are at a point that SD2SCSI parts make more 
sense (unless you want to exhibit them as they originally ran).


alan

On 12/1/18 6:55 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:

BUMMER
It may become a static  display.

Ed#


In a message dated 12/1/2018 7:53:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:

A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM.
Yes, one with the dreaded battery.

alan

On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
> we were given this and a hard dribe a floor standimg
decwriter. does this use NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail





Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

2018-12-01 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Hi  Alan - The  hard drive is same  size cabinet    with  I  guess a  SCSSI 
  cable.  I  will have  to  look  at  it   further...   wonder if starting it  
out on  a  variac   would  help the capacitors  like  I  do  with the old radio 
sets  here in the museum  ed#  


In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:04:03 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
ape...@snowmoose.com writes:

 
Well, as I said, in my experience, the NVRAMs that you can buy new from Mouser 
work good enough. And the mod to the original battery isn't that hard to make.

In my experience with IPCs, the bigger problem is the power supplies. If the PS 
on the IPC that you have now doesn't need to be re'capped now, it will need it 
soon. After that will likely be the HDD that needs work. Almost all of my HDDs 
that originally shipped with lunchbox systems up to the 424 meg (ST1480N) have 
died. The price for working 50-pin SCSI HDDs are at a point that SD2SCSI parts 
make more sense (unless you want to exhibit them as they originally ran).

alan

On 12/1/18 6:55 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
BUMMER
It may become a static  display.
 
Ed#
 
 
In a message dated 12/1/2018 7:53:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
 
A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM. 

Yes, one with the dreaded battery.

alan

On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
> we were given this and a hard dribe a floor standimg decwriter. does this 
> use NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail



Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

2018-12-01 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
Well, as I said, in my experience, the NVRAMs that you can buy new from 
Mouser work good enough. And the mod to the original battery isn't that 
hard to make.


In my experience with IPCs, the bigger problem is the power supplies. If 
the PS on the IPC that you have now doesn't need to be re'capped now, it 
will need it soon. After that will likely be the HDD that needs work. 
Almost all of my HDDs that originally shipped with lunchbox systems up 
to the 424 meg (ST1480N) have died. The price for working 50-pin SCSI 
HDDs are at a point that SD2SCSI parts make more sense (unless you want 
to exhibit them as they originally ran).


alan

On 12/1/18 6:55 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:

BUMMER
It may become a static display.

Ed#


In a message dated 12/1/2018 7:53:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:


A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM.
Yes, one with the dreaded battery.

alan

On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
> we were given this and a hard dribe a floor standimg decwriter. 
does this use NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed

>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail





Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

2018-12-01 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
BUMMER
It may become a static  display.
 
Ed#
 
 
In a message dated 12/1/2018 7:53:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:

 
A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM. 

Yes, one with the dreaded battery.

alan

On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
> we were given this and a hard dribe a floor standimg decwriter. does this 
> use NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail



Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

2018-12-01 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM. 
Yes, one with the dreaded battery.


alan

On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:

we were given this and a hard dribe a floor  standimg decwriter.  does this 
use NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed

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Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

2018-12-01 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
SHOULD  SAY  HARD  DRIVE    COULD NOT  SEE OVER THE STACK  OF  BOOKS ON THE DESK


In a message dated 12/1/2018 6:04:12 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:

 
we were given this and a hard dribe a floor standimg decwriter. does this 
use NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed


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sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

2018-12-01 Thread Ed via cctalk
we were given this and a hard dribe a floor  standimg decwriter.  does this 
use NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed

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