Re: Researching IBM rare equipment from 50s to 80s
I worked with an ex-IBMer who told me about this thing. It was nick-named "The Noodle Snatcher" - with a puff of air it wiggled the mag tape and wrapped it around a drum for read/write. It had a nasty habit of mis-handling the tape. He told me that during a sales presentation to a customer, this happened, it wrinkled the tape wrapped it around the drum, and then put the crumpled tape back in the holder. The IBM salesman, without missing a beat, said, "and when it finds BAD data..." From: cctech on behalf of Jay Jaeger via cctech Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 1:04 PM To: cctech@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Researching IBM rare equipment from 50s to 80s On 12/14/2018 4:41 AM, Peter Van Peborgh via cctech wrote: > Fellow geeks of more mature vintage, > > Do any of you guys know whether it is possible to find out to whom any IBM > equipment was sold back in the day? (Still chasing IBM 2321 Data Cell - I > never learn!) > > Many thanks, > > peter > Well, if your intention is to actually find one, can't help. I do know that Wisconsin DOT had one back in the day, on an IBM 360/50, but it was gone before I started work there. I think that I have a large negative of the beastie lying around somewhere. No, it is not stuffed anywhere. Indeed the building that formerly housed it (and was home for me during my career) was razed just this year. In general, even if IBM still had such records, I am sure that they would not release them, and doubt that they would be indexed in fine detail such that you could find customers of any particular machine type (unless they fed them to Watson ;) ). Leased units would have been turned back into IBM. Purchased units would have been mostly traded in and scrapped. A Google Search found these instances of customer units (there may well be more - I stopped after a few pages) http://www.columbia.edu/cu/computinghistory/datacell.html https://www.facebook.com/HealthManagementTechnology/photos/ibm-2321-data-cell-drive/132475567020/ https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IBM2321DataCellAtUMich.jpg JRJ
RE: Researching IBM rare equipment from 50s to 80s
For the very early stuff u can't do much better than the US Army's Ballistic Research Lab surveys, a number of which are on line at http://www.ed-thelen.org/comp-hist/merged.html Tom -Original Message- From: Peter Van Peborgh [mailto:pe...@vanpeborgh.eu] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 2:42 AM To: Subject: Researching IBM rare equipment from 50s to 80s Fellow geeks of more mature vintage, Do any of you guys know whether it is possible to find out to whom any IBM equipment was sold back in the day? (Still chasing IBM 2321 Data Cell - I never learn!) Many thanks, peter || | | || | | || Peter Van Peborgh 62 St Mary's Rise Writhlington Radstock SomersetBA3 3PD UK 01761 439 234 || | | || | | ||
Re: Researching IBM rare equipment from 50s to 80s
On 12/14/2018 4:41 AM, Peter Van Peborgh via cctech wrote: > Fellow geeks of more mature vintage, > > Do any of you guys know whether it is possible to find out to whom any IBM > equipment was sold back in the day? (Still chasing IBM 2321 Data Cell - I > never learn!) > > Many thanks, > > peter > Well, if your intention is to actually find one, can't help. I do know that Wisconsin DOT had one back in the day, on an IBM 360/50, but it was gone before I started work there. I think that I have a large negative of the beastie lying around somewhere. No, it is not stuffed anywhere. Indeed the building that formerly housed it (and was home for me during my career) was razed just this year. In general, even if IBM still had such records, I am sure that they would not release them, and doubt that they would be indexed in fine detail such that you could find customers of any particular machine type (unless they fed them to Watson ;) ). Leased units would have been turned back into IBM. Purchased units would have been mostly traded in and scrapped. A Google Search found these instances of customer units (there may well be more - I stopped after a few pages) http://www.columbia.edu/cu/computinghistory/datacell.html https://www.facebook.com/HealthManagementTechnology/photos/ibm-2321-data-cell-drive/132475567020/ https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IBM2321DataCellAtUMich.jpg JRJ
Re: Researching IBM rare equipment from 50s to 80s
On Fri, Dec 14, 2018, 6:11 AM E. Groenenberg via cctech < cctech@classiccmp.org wrote: > On Fri, December 14, 2018 11:41, Peter Van Peborgh via cctech wrote: > > Fellow geeks of more mature vintage, > > > > Do any of you guys know whether it is possible to find out to whom any > IBM > > equipment was sold back in the day? (Still chasing IBM 2321 Data Cell - I > > never learn!) > > > > Many thanks, > > > > peter > > > > Try contacting the ABN Amrobank datacenter in Amstelveen. > They have (had?) some vintage IBM stuff on display in the various > spots there. > > Their address is : Eleanor Rooseveltlaan 1, 1183 CC Amstelveen. > > Ed > -- > Ik email, dus ik besta. > Just because it is tangentially on topic...In the USA, other than IBM itself one can try the Hagley Museum archives in Wilmington, Delaware. There is an IBM document subarchive there. In 1987 while working for IBM as a college student intern I was dispatched once to retrieve some docs stored there. I dont know what the extent of the IBM component of the archive is, or if it is Wilmington/Philadelpia/DuPont only. Related to Hagley I recently retrieved RCA docs there. There is also UNIVAC stuff. Needle in a haystack B >
Re: Researching IBM rare equipment from 50s to 80s
On Fri, December 14, 2018 11:41, Peter Van Peborgh via cctech wrote: > Fellow geeks of more mature vintage, > > Do any of you guys know whether it is possible to find out to whom any IBM > equipment was sold back in the day? (Still chasing IBM 2321 Data Cell - I > never learn!) > > Many thanks, > > peter > Try contacting the ABN Amrobank datacenter in Amstelveen. They have (had?) some vintage IBM stuff on display in the various spots there. Their address is : Eleanor Rooseveltlaan 1, 1183 CC Amstelveen. Ed -- Ik email, dus ik besta.
Researching IBM rare equipment from 50s to 80s
Fellow geeks of more mature vintage, Do any of you guys know whether it is possible to find out to whom any IBM equipment was sold back in the day? (Still chasing IBM 2321 Data Cell - I never learn!) Many thanks, peter || | | || | | || Peter Van Peborgh 62 St Mary's Rise Writhlington Radstock SomersetBA3 3PD UK 01761 439 234 || | | || | | ||
