Re: Possible way to get better bug reports/support requests for CDRecord

2002-10-27 Thread Matthias . Riese
Lourens Veen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Yesterday, MPlayer crashed on me. In itself that's not so 
> interesting, but what was interesting was their crash handler. A 
> message popped up explaining that MPlayer had crashed, and that 
> that was a bug. Then it proceeded to explain how to get basic 
> debugging info, with a reference to a web page explaining how to 
> submit bug reports. It also told me not to expect any reply unless 
> I followed these rules to the letter.
> 
> I'm wondering, would this be a useful feature for CDRecord? It could 
> print such a message when an error occurs, perhaps with a command 
> line switch to turn it off for expert users who know that what 
> they're doing might go wrong, or for use in shell scripts that only 
> want a return value.
> 
> I know there's a feature freeze now, but perhaps this could be 
> included before the next release still? I bet a lot of people will 
> upgrade and have problems, this may well be a good way to manage 
> the chaos a bit better.

Well, this kind of crash handler is just a signal handler - some code
which is executed when the operating system tells a process (a program
being executed) that it has done something way wrong. It replaces the
default behaviour of dumping the core. So the process has to do
something what the operating system can recognize as being wrong.

By now I never saw cdrecord crashing in this way. cdrecord certainly
outputs SCSI error messages if something goes wrong, but these are
errors detected by cdrecord itself. The operating system stays
completely cool about them.

So what's needed is some translation of plain SCSI error messages to
instructions what could be done to fix it. However this is a feature
already wished for a dozen times, which requires knowledge about:

- SCSI MMC standards & Co

- the hardware out there and its behaviour

- the behaviour of involved software like the operating system (for
  all the many flavours and versions)

There was already the idea of extracting the mailings to this list to
a database for easiness of search. Well, I personally go with a
searchable mailing list archive.

Regards, Matthias


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Re: CDRecord-ProDVD

2002-10-27 Thread Meino Christian Cramer
From: Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CDRecord-ProDVD
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:12:35 +0100 (CET)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

schilling> >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Oct 25 18:54:35 2002
schilling> 
schilling> >I am not even sure why are you even on this list if everything is
schilling> >answered in the man pages or readmes. 
schilling> 
schilling> >Remember, not all questions are directed at you. I don't remember
schilling> >emailing you, but emailing the mailing list. There are many other people
schilling> >on the list who might answer a question even though the answer might be
schilling> >hidden deep inside a man page in a poorly written sentence. If you feel
schilling> >that the answer is in the man page, just keep that to yourself. 
schilling> 
schilling> ... ans none of the other people did answer within a day
schilling> 
schilling> Jörg

   Äh... sorry... WHAT ?

keep hacking!
Meino

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Possible way to get better bug reports/support requests for CDRecord

2002-10-27 Thread Lourens Veen
Yesterday, MPlayer crashed on me. In itself that's not so 
interesting, but what was interesting was their crash handler. A 
message popped up explaining that MPlayer had crashed, and that 
that was a bug. Then it proceeded to explain how to get basic 
debugging info, with a reference to a web page explaining how to 
submit bug reports. It also told me not to expect any reply unless 
I followed these rules to the letter.

I'm wondering, would this be a useful feature for CDRecord? It could 
print such a message when an error occurs, perhaps with a command 
line switch to turn it off for expert users who know that what 
they're doing might go wrong, or for use in shell scripts that only 
want a return value.

I know there's a feature freeze now, but perhaps this could be 
included before the next release still? I bet a lot of people will 
upgrade and have problems, this may well be a good way to manage 
the chaos a bit better.

Comments?

Lourens

PS: Oh, I'm willing to write the text if you want me to. I'm not a 
native English speaker but my written English is as good as that.
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Re: CDRecord-ProDVD

2002-10-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
>From: csj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>>  If you believe that the man page should be rewritten, you are welcome
>>  to do the job!
>> 
>>  I would be happy if at least some of the cdrtools users leave their 
>>  attitute of only waiting for being supplied with free software.

>Since the discussion drifted to language, I'd like to comment on the
>following cdrecord output:

>Track 01:5 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf 100%]  10.6x.  2.47% done,
>estimate finish Sat Oct 26 04:57:16 2002

>I believe "estimate finish" is better rendered as "estimated finish",
>unless the phrase expands to "I estimate the burn will finish at [*]".
>Otherwise I tend to read it as "The burn's estimated finish is at [*]",
>where "estimated" is used as a participle modifiying the noun "finish."
>Constructions similar to this would be "unwritten law" or "estimated
>time of arrival" (ETA).

The text is not from cdrecord but from mkisofs and has been writtn by
Eric Youngdale - a nativ English speaking american.

Jörg

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Re: CDRecord-ProDVD

2002-10-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
>From: Karl Bellve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>As far as reading man pages and readmes...I bet I am one of the few
>people on this planet that has gotten rscsi to even work!

If you know how to use and set up 'rsh' commands on your system, it is 
pretty simple. Setting up RSCSI on win32 really is not trivial,
but this is caused by win32 constraints.

Jörg

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Re: CDRecord-ProDVD

2002-10-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Oct 25 18:54:35 2002

>I am not even sure why are you even on this list if everything is
>answered in the man pages or readmes. 

>Remember, not all questions are directed at you. I don't remember
>emailing you, but emailing the mailing list. There are many other people
>on the list who might answer a question even though the answer might be
>hidden deep inside a man page in a poorly written sentence. If you feel
>that the answer is in the man page, just keep that to yourself. 

... ans none of the other people did answer within a day

Jörg

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cdrtools-1.11a39 ready

2002-10-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
NEW features of cdrtools-1.11a39:

Please have a look at the German open Source Center BerliOS at www.berlios.de
BerliOS will continue to support free hosting of cryptography projects even
when US laws change and don't allow to host cryptography projects in the USA.
Also look at sourcewell.berlios.de, the first Open Source announcement service
that itself is implemented as Open Source project.

* Important news 

For the 'Slottable Source Plugin Module' SSPM Features read README.SSPM

* Please Test *

There will soon be a new final release for cdrtools. Please do not send
new patches for new features before the final is out. Please note that 
the DVD-Video patch was a big modification (it took a week for only cleanly
integrating the patch) so please test!

** IMPORTANT:
In order to prepare a new major release, I now declare a feature freeze.
Only important Bug Fixes will be applied to the source until the next major
release has been published.

With 1.11a39 all known problems for cdrtools have been fixed.
1.11a39 is the first release candidate for the upcoming next major release.
After 1.11a39 only important and major bugs will be fixed
**

All:

-   Makefilesystem changed $(MAKE) to "$(MAKE)" to allow spaces
in pathnames

-   Small fixes for VMS

Libparanoia:

Libedc:

Libscg:

-   Try to fix problems with a bad patch send by Linus Torvalds
Clear O_NONBLOCK directly after opening a device to allow
libscg to work with old sg drivers.

-   Fixed several typo's.

-   Avoid to read from the media (when using the new experimental
Linux ATAPI transport) while trying to clear old sg driver status.

-   Woraround for Linux kernel design bug: CDROM_SEND_PACKET sets errno 
to EINVAL in case SCSI sense key is "Invalid command".

Rscsi:

Cdrecord:

-   Warn to use cdrecord blank=all if a drive rejects cdrecord blank=fast

-   Fixed a bug that became obvious with Yamaha AudioMaster mode and CD-Text
The problem was caused by the fact that cdrecord did not allow to overwrite
the lead in start time in cdrecord's internal data structures.

-   Fixed a bug with recognition of complete disks that came up after cdrecord
did allow to deal with >= 90 minute CD's.

-   Changed Text "BURN-Free was not used" to "BURN-Free was never needed" because
people did believe that the old text means that Burn-Proof has been disabled.

-   Man page now includes a hint that padsize is always using 2048 as sector size.

-   Fixed a bug with padsize=xxx if sector size was not 2048 bytes.
Cdrecord in this case did just divide the number of pad bytes by the
number of bytes in an output sized sector (e.g. 2448 or 2352 bytes).
This did result in a too low number of padding sectors.
The fix caused a complete rewrite of the pad size handling.

-   Treat packet mode similar to normal writing: Print Drive buffer fill ratio 
and current write speed.

-   Treat padding similar to normal writing: Print Drive buffer fill ratio and 
current write speed.

-   Make verbose printing consistent and non-jumping

-   A new experimental feature of the -immed flag is  to
tell  cdrecord  to try to wait short times wile writing
to the media. This is expected to free the IDE  bus  if
the  CD/DVD writer and the data source are connected to
the same IDE cable. In this  case,  the  CD/DVD  writer
would  otherwise  usually  block the IDE bus for nearly
all the time making it impossible to  fetch  data  from
the source drive.

As this is an experimental feature, I would like to get feedback.


/*--*/
New driveropts= option "tattoofile=". Use together with -checkrive 
to write an image of the right size to disk.

DiskT@2 hints:

In order to have "DISKTATTOO" listed in the "Driver flags",
the disk currently inserted must be usable for the DiskT@2 feature.
This means that there needs to be enough space on it.

You need an B&W image with 3744 pixels per line

Best start with a 3744 x 320 pixel image.
The correct size may be retrieved with
cdrecord driveropts=tattooinfo -checkdrive

To get RAW image data:

-   Take 'xv' and save the image in PBM/PGM/PPM (raw) mode

-   use a binary aware (must support unlimited linelength)
editor such as 'ved' and remove the header lines.
These lines look like:

P5
# CREATOR: XV Version 3.10a  Rev: 12/29/94 (PNG patch 1.2)
# CREATOR: XV Version 3.10a  Rev: 12/29/94 (PNG patch 1.2)
3744 144
255

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