restricted overwrite and cd cloning

2004-01-13 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
Hi there,
I have discovered that dvd+rw-tools (which I use through k3b) that I 
have the possibility to write the discs in restricted overwrite format. 
I'm not a technical guy and someone adviced it to me as a replacement 
for udf. What are the similarities and the differences between both?

I have bought a Spanish dictionary on cd-rom and I wanted to copy it to 
have a backup copy. The cd is copy protected, what is actually nonsense, 
since nothing can prevent installations from the original cd. To make 
this backup copy I used CloneCD (a Windoze program) succesfully. But in 
Linux readcd complains about a sector error in some sectors (when only 
2% is read). How can I clone this copy protected cd under Linux?

Thanks for your help,
Pablo



restricted overwrite and cd cloning

2004-01-13 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
Hi there,

I have discovered that dvd+rw-tools (which I use through k3b) that I 
have the possibility to write the discs in restricted overwrite format. 
I'm not a technical guy and someone adviced it to me as a replacement 
for udf. What are the similarities and the differences between both?

I have bought a Spanish dictionary on cd-rom and I wanted to copy it to 
have a backup copy. The cd is copy protected, what is actually nonsense, 
since nothing can prevent installations from the original cd. To make 
this backup copy I used CloneCD (a Windoze program) succesfully. But in 
Linux readcd complains about a sector error in some sectors (when only 
2% is read). How can I clone this copy protected cd under Linux?

Thanks for your help,

Pablo



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Re: cdrecord and scsi-3 compliance

2004-01-13 Thread Joerg Schilling

>From: Andy Polyakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>> One can imagine burners w/ disc change mechanism,

>One should rather imagine e.g. FCAL tower enclosure for multiple
>off-the-shelf units. Host can address individual units by LUN, but it
>(addressing) is done at lower communication layer, not in command data
>block. I mean if one would project SCSI-3 on ISO 7 layer networking
>model and put command block at transport layer, LUN addressing would end
>up at network, if not link layer.

True for good old SCSI, not true for ATAPI drives.
They just don't have a different way to signal lun numbers.

>As for disc changing units. MMC specification provides for this through
>MECHANISM STATUS(BDh) and "slotted" LOAD/UNLOAD MEDIA(A6h) commands.
>Media is changed explicitly by issueing latter command. A.

I've never seen any drive that supports this and I did not yet see an OS
where it seems that this is supported.

Using different luns will just work anywhere.

Jörg

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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD and Liteon DVDRW LDW-451S?

2004-01-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
>From: Anssi Saari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>All right! I managed to burn an ISO image to DVD-R at 4x and to DVD-RW
>at 1x (it's 1x media). Burn went fine and I was able to verify the data
>too based on md5, on the writer at least. 

>I don't have any + media, so I can't test those, but - media seems to work
>fine based on these two burns. -atip seems to return decent information
>as well. I notice -prcap still doesn't say the drive can write any kind
>of DVD, but maybe it should.

If you like this to be fixed, request a a bugfix for the firmware of the
drive from the manufacturer.

Jörg

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RE: CDROM / DVD writing problems on Solaris 9 (x86)

2004-01-13 Thread nick . newton
I applied the DMA patch to the Solaris box prior to my email.

Regards,

Nick

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Subject: Re: CDROM / DVD writing problems on Solaris 9 (x86)



>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>I am currently having problems configuring a TEAC DV-W50E DVD writer to
work
>correctly under Solaris 9 (x86) using either the Solaris cdrw utility and
>the cdrecord-prodvd-2.01a21-i386-pc-solaris2.9 utility from Joerg
Schilling,
>although the drive does work correctly using Nero on Windows2000.
>PC details
>Intel PIII with 192 MB memory running SunOS icmp6-1 5.9 Generic_112234-08
>i86pc i386 i86pc
>The extract below gives details of the errors observed using
>cdrecord-prodvd:

Please READ the solaris related READMEs in the source directory!

If you don't enable DMA, you will have problems.

Jvrg

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Re: cdrecord and scsi-3 compliance

2004-01-13 Thread Joerg Schilling

>From: Andy Polyakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>> One can imagine burners w/ disc change mechanism,

>One should rather imagine e.g. FCAL tower enclosure for multiple
>off-the-shelf units. Host can address individual units by LUN, but it
>(addressing) is done at lower communication layer, not in command data
>block. I mean if one would project SCSI-3 on ISO 7 layer networking
>model and put command block at transport layer, LUN addressing would end
>up at network, if not link layer.

True for good old SCSI, not true for ATAPI drives.
They just don't have a different way to signal lun numbers.

>As for disc changing units. MMC specification provides for this through
>MECHANISM STATUS(BDh) and "slotted" LOAD/UNLOAD MEDIA(A6h) commands.
>Media is changed explicitly by issueing latter command. A.

I've never seen any drive that supports this and I did not yet see an OS
where it seems that this is supported.

Using different luns will just work anywhere.

Jörg

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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD and Liteon DVDRW LDW-451S?

2004-01-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
>From: Anssi Saari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>All right! I managed to burn an ISO image to DVD-R at 4x and to DVD-RW
>at 1x (it's 1x media). Burn went fine and I was able to verify the data
>too based on md5, on the writer at least. 

>I don't have any + media, so I can't test those, but - media seems to work
>fine based on these two burns. -atip seems to return decent information
>as well. I notice -prcap still doesn't say the drive can write any kind
>of DVD, but maybe it should.

If you like this to be fixed, request a a bugfix for the firmware of the
drive from the manufacturer.

Jörg

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Re: CDROM / DVD writing problems on Solaris 9 (x86)

2004-01-13 Thread Joerg Schilling

>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>I am currently having problems configuring a TEAC DV-W50E DVD writer to work
>correctly under Solaris 9 (x86) using either the Solaris cdrw utility and
>the cdrecord-prodvd-2.01a21-i386-pc-solaris2.9 utility from Joerg Schilling,
>although the drive does work correctly using Nero on Windows2000.
>PC details
>Intel PIII with 192 MB memory running SunOS icmp6-1 5.9 Generic_112234-08
>i86pc i386 i86pc
>The extract below gives details of the errors observed using
>cdrecord-prodvd:

Please READ the solaris related READMEs in the source directory!

If you don't enable DMA, you will have problems.

Jörg

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RE: CDROM / DVD writing problems on Solaris 9 (x86)

2004-01-13 Thread nick . newton
I applied the DMA patch to the Solaris box prior to my email.

Regards,

Nick

-Original Message-
From: Joerg Schilling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Newton, Nicholas : Enable
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CDROM / DVD writing problems on Solaris 9 (x86)



>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>I am currently having problems configuring a TEAC DV-W50E DVD writer to
work
>correctly under Solaris 9 (x86) using either the Solaris cdrw utility and
>the cdrecord-prodvd-2.01a21-i386-pc-solaris2.9 utility from Joerg
Schilling,
>although the drive does work correctly using Nero on Windows2000.
>PC details
>Intel PIII with 192 MB memory running SunOS icmp6-1 5.9 Generic_112234-08
>i86pc i386 i86pc
>The extract below gives details of the errors observed using
>cdrecord-prodvd:

Please READ the solaris related READMEs in the source directory!

If you don't enable DMA, you will have problems.

Jvrg

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Re: CDROM / DVD writing problems on Solaris 9 (x86)

2004-01-13 Thread Joerg Schilling

>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>I am currently having problems configuring a TEAC DV-W50E DVD writer to work
>correctly under Solaris 9 (x86) using either the Solaris cdrw utility and
>the cdrecord-prodvd-2.01a21-i386-pc-solaris2.9 utility from Joerg Schilling,
>although the drive does work correctly using Nero on Windows2000.
>PC details
>Intel PIII with 192 MB memory running SunOS icmp6-1 5.9 Generic_112234-08
>i86pc i386 i86pc
>The extract below gives details of the errors observed using
>cdrecord-prodvd:

Please READ the solaris related READMEs in the source directory!

If you don't enable DMA, you will have problems.

Jörg

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Re: cdrecord and scsi-3 compliance

2004-01-13 Thread Carsten Neumann
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, Rob Bogus wrote:
> >Looks like you confuse the Target ID with the lun.
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> I'm not sure what would lead you to that, I haven't even opened the 
> boxes to see if these drives *have* LUN jumpers. Typically they are on 
> the drive electronics board, implemented as a set of solder pads, 
> although I have seen some little mini-jumpers about 60% the size of a 
> Berg jumper.

OK,

set the LUN of one of those drives to != 0, and send the output of
cdrecord -scanbus , and we will see... :-)

Carsten



Re: cdrecord and scsi-3 compliance

2004-01-13 Thread Carsten Neumann
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, Rob Bogus wrote:
> >Looks like you confuse the Target ID with the lun.
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> I'm not sure what would lead you to that, I haven't even opened the 
> boxes to see if these drives *have* LUN jumpers. Typically they are on 
> the drive electronics board, implemented as a set of solder pads, 
> although I have seen some little mini-jumpers about 60% the size of a 
> Berg jumper.

OK,

set the LUN of one of those drives to != 0, and send the output of
cdrecord -scanbus , and we will see... :-)

Carsten


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