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Re: cdrecord floating point exception
Joerg Schilling wrote: Rob Bogus ro...@tmr.com wrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: From zoubi...@hotmail.com Fri Jan 30 21:07:19 2009 You did not install cdrecord correctly as you see from this messages. Cdrecord needs to be installed suid root in order to be able to open all needed devices and in order to send all needed SCSI commands. When are you going to fix that? Other software can burn without being root, clearly it can be done. If there are better commands to use with a This is a definitive wrong claim. There is No way to correctly write without root privileges. Try to kill hald and retry cdrecord after correctly installing it suid root. Time to learn to use a scalpel instead of a chain saw... You don't just kill hald on most modern distributions, things stop working. And the Try to learn that hald on Linux is broken and acts on wrong status changes. Nothing is ever your fault. Instead of learning from the applications which burn CDs and DVDs without being root, your software has problems with hald and you refuse to accept that changing the hald config fixes the problems and others can work with hald as is, and insist hald is at fault. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com Woe unto the statesman who makes war without a reason that will still be valid when the war is over... Otto von Bismark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to cdwrite-requ...@other.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@other.debian.org
Re: cdrecord floating point exception
Sorry to chime in again. Jörg Schilling is playing the funny guy twisting facts again: On Mo, 02 Feb 2009, Joerg Schilling wrote: 1) cdrecord writes to CDs. 2) cdrecord gets DVD writing code added and becomes cdrecord-ProDVD which is not free software. The free version of cdrecord continues to exist, without DVD writing capability. cdrecord-ProDVD becomes free for everyone later, someone takes parts of the cdrecord DVD code by reverse engineering and publishes patches that cause cdrecord to fail even with CD media. You are lying: Proof: From your website: ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/README: NOTE: the DVD-recording drivers have been added to the OpenSource part on May 15th 2006 with cdrtools-2.01.01a09. That was 2006. The first patch for adding DVD support to cdrecord I found in 1min searching was for cdrecord 1.11a08: http://www.abcpages.com/~mache/cdrecord-dvd.html cdrecord 1.11 was already released before 2001. At that time cdrecord-ProDVD was for sure not free. One of the Debian bug reports discussing that #248187 starts Sun, 9 May 2004 for cdrtools release 2.0+a30 Guys please see the the reality WHO is lying here. Or is Schillings missing at least 5 years??? Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining prein...@logic.atVienna University of Technology Debian Developer prein...@debian.org Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- CAMER (n.) A mis-tossed caber. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to cdwrite-requ...@other.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@other.debian.org
Re: cdrecord floating point exception
The only code that probably could be called free was growisofs, but growisofs at that time was not under GPL (altough the Author claimed so) because commercial publishing was not allowed. Growisofs is now free, but the change to a real free license was made after the complete cdrecord source was published under a free license. dvd+rw-tools were available under same license, GPL, all along, and nothing has changed after the complete cdrecord source was published under a free license. I suppose the above comment refers to http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/solaris.com.html. Quoting it: The agreement is not meant to encumber GPL-compliant usage of the sofware in question, for example no explicit permission/license is required, if the same party chooses to download and deploy it internally in their Solaris environment, e.g. for backup purposes, or even re-distribute it under GPL terms. I can assure that this was the intention from the moment of agreement, to be specific the moment Solaris support made its appearance in dvd+rw-tools in 2003. The note was indeed updated/clarified in 2006, but once again it has nothing to do with any cdrecord time-frame. Well, it might have been affected *indirectly*, as those who asked for clarification at the time might have been confused by misleading claims just like one in the very beginning of this message. A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to cdwrite-requ...@other.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@other.debian.org
Re: cdrecord floating point exception
Greg Wooledge wool...@eeg.ccf.org wrote: Perhaps before the name was used, but there was a fork with DVD capability before cdrecord got the ProDVD code. I used it because I had too many problems with the licensing of ProDVD and couldn't get permission to install it. Well, please try to find a proof that someone different did add DVD support to cdrecord before February/March 1998. You're playing with words. This is the timeline as I remember it: You are playing too 1) cdrecord writes to CDs. 2) cdrecord gets DVD writing code added and becomes cdrecord-ProDVD which is not free software. The free version of cdrecord continues to exist, without DVD writing capability. cdrecord-ProDVD becomes free for everyone later, someone takes parts of the cdrecord DVD code by reverse engineering and publishes patches that cause cdrecord to fail even with CD media. 4) growisofs (dvd+rwtools) comes along, adds DVD writing that works pretty well. 5) cdrecord's DVD writing code is merged into the free version of cdrecord. License is changed to a different free license. As there never have been two versions of cdrecord, there was of code no merge. 6) Debian forks wodim from an older cdrecord because they're uncertain of the new license. Not true - sorry. The license that is use with cdrecord was an aproved free license since more than a year at that time. These people never have been uncertain about the license, they just wanted to spread FUD. Nobody claims their DVD writing code is better than yours or older than yours. They just claim (correctly) that other code was FREE during a time when yours was not. The only code that probably could be called free was growisofs, but growisofs at that time was not under GPL (altough the Author claimed so) because commercial publishing was not allowed. Growisofs is now free, but the change to a real free license was made after the complete cdrecord source was published under a free license. You will not be able to do this because the official cdrecord DVD support has been introduced at a time, when only two other DVD recording programs have been available at all, one of them was from Pioneer. At the time cdrecord introduced DVD support, only 35 DVD recorders existed in the whole world. All well and good, but the resulting program was non-free and therefore many people could not use it, or chose not to use it. It is free NOW, and thank you for that, but we're discussing the state of affairs during the time cdrecord-ProDVD was non-free. As I mentioned many times before: There was an NDA at that time and you could not even buy the related writers without a personal permission from the chief of Pioneer. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to cdwrite-requ...@other.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@other.debian.org
Re: cdrecord floating point exception
Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote: Try to learn that hald on Linux is broken and acts on wrong status changes. Nothing is ever your fault. Instead of learning from the applications which burn CDs and DVDs without being root, your software has problems with hald and you refuse to accept that changing the hald config fixes the problems and others can work with hald as is, and insist hald is at fault. besides the fact that you _need_ root privileges in order to do the tasks cdrecord does, cdrecord exists many years longer than hald. I am of course willing to help the hald people to fix their software. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to cdwrite-requ...@other.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@other.debian.org
