Re: Burning a Windows / DVD player compatible DVD
Thanks to everyone for the replies. I believe I have now produced a DVD which works (plays in Linux, Windows and my DVD player - something that I haven't had before) and I've asked some other people to test it to check if it works on their players. This was produced by following Joerg's instructions. If that doesn't work, I think I now understand what might be going wrong and how to further investigate and then hopefully fix the problem - so thanks everyone. Regards, Bob 2008/6/2 Andy Polyakov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I'm really struggling with this whole compatible DVD thing. For my amateur dramatics group, I have produced a DVD of our show, including menus and all sorts of fun like that. The DVD plays perfectly with xine dvd://video/dvd. I have burned the DVD in many different ways, such as growisofs -dvd-compat -dvd-video -Z /dev/scd1 . and most of the ways I burn it will work perfectly on my panasonic DVD player. However, when I distributed these DVD's to other people, I have received reports that they don't work on Windows machines (they apparently show up as a blank DVD), Mac's (similar I guess - but no detail on that) or some DVD drives (which just refuse to read them). I believe the DVD that was written that works on Linux and my DVD player is using the UDF file system, but several real DVD's I have use iso9660. Well, if a disk gets mounted as iso9600, it doesn't mean that there is no UDF directory structure. What you're likely to see it bridge-formatted disk containing both ISO9600 and UDF directory structures, and ISO9600 gets mounted by default. For reference, mkisofs -dvd-video produces layouts just like that. I tried burning it with iso9660 (actually using gnomebaker) and that fails to play on my DVD player, but it is recognised and can be played by a windows computer. Right, real DVD players can and some actually do refuse to play ISO9660-only media. While Windows can simply not care about file system, it sees just a bunch of media files to be played. What you're more likely to suffer from is incompatibility at media format level (see below), not file system or video content. I'm currently using DVD-R disks, which I understood to be more likely compatible with DVD players (although I may have that wrong because http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/ suggests that DVD+R disks are more compatible). It doesn't really say it. It discusses DVD+ format merits, it discusses how to improve compatibility of recordings, but the choice is left to individual reader. In case it is useful, I have pasted the output of dvd+rw-mediainfo for one of the burned DVD's at http://pastebin.com/m7479a9c For future I'd insist on including dvd+rw-mediainfo directly in message (as well as versioning information and even output produced during recording). On provided URL one can find: INQUIRY:[LITE-ON ][DVDRW LDW-451S ][GSB6] GET [CURRENT] CONFIGURATION: Mounted Media: 11h, DVD-R Sequential READ DVD STRUCTURE[#0h]: Last border-out at:2045*2KB=4188160 READ TRACK INFORMATION[#1]: Track Size:2247216*2KB READ CAPACITY: 2247216*2048=4602298368 For -dvd-compat/-video recording last border-out, track size and capacity would normally be the same. Inconsistently low last border-out value is known to confuse some players rendering such media unplayable in this players. Question is why is it low? I used to account it to media defects in lead-in area. At least if advised to try different media or media brand in such situation, other users seem to confirm that failure is not reproducible. However! As I realize now they all reported value of 2045... Common media fault? Hardly... Common firmware deficiency? Can be... Common usage pattern, such as interference with auto-mounting facility? Can be... At least it's least likely recording program's fault, because last border-out position is pure firmware domain, i.e. recording program has nothing to say about it (not to mention that it's generally known to come out right, i.e. equal to last written block + 1). Could anyone suggest how I should be burning these DVD's to ensure they are compatible with both windows and more DVD players? If you want to try DVD+R, then do make sure that you instruct your unit to burn it with so called DVD-ROM book-type with 'dvd+rw-booktype -dvd-rom -unit+r /dev/dvd'. Lite-on should allow you to do that. As for DVD-R. There was a case of malformed border-out position mentioned in http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/hcn.html, look for BTC. If your firmware can't correctly handle incremental recording, then -use-the-force-luke=dao might be solution even for you. A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Burning a Windows / DVD player compatible DVD
Hi, I'm really struggling with this whole compatible DVD thing. For my amateur dramatics group, I have produced a DVD of our show, including menus and all sorts of fun like that. The DVD plays perfectly with xine dvd://video/dvd. I have burned the DVD in many different ways, such as growisofs -dvd-compat -dvd-video -Z /dev/scd1 . and most of the ways I burn it will work perfectly on my panasonic DVD player. However, when I distributed these DVD's to other people, I have received reports that they don't work on Windows machines (they apparently show up as a blank DVD), Mac's (similar I guess - but no detail on that) or some DVD drives (which just refuse to read them). I believe the DVD that was written that works on Linux and my DVD player is using the UDF file system, but several real DVD's I have use iso9660. Well, if a disk gets mounted as iso9600, it doesn't mean that there is no UDF directory structure. What you're likely to see it bridge-formatted disk containing both ISO9600 and UDF directory structures, and ISO9600 gets mounted by default. For reference, mkisofs -dvd-video produces layouts just like that. I tried burning it with iso9660 (actually using gnomebaker) and that fails to play on my DVD player, but it is recognised and can be played by a windows computer. Right, real DVD players can and some actually do refuse to play ISO9660-only media. While Windows can simply not care about file system, it sees just a bunch of media files to be played. What you're more likely to suffer from is incompatibility at media format level (see below), not file system or video content. I'm currently using DVD-R disks, which I understood to be more likely compatible with DVD players (although I may have that wrong because http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/ suggests that DVD+R disks are more compatible). It doesn't really say it. It discusses DVD+ format merits, it discusses how to improve compatibility of recordings, but the choice is left to individual reader. In case it is useful, I have pasted the output of dvd+rw-mediainfo for one of the burned DVD's at http://pastebin.com/m7479a9c For future I'd insist on including dvd+rw-mediainfo directly in message (as well as versioning information and even output produced during recording). On provided URL one can find: INQUIRY:[LITE-ON ][DVDRW LDW-451S ][GSB6] GET [CURRENT] CONFIGURATION: Mounted Media: 11h, DVD-R Sequential READ DVD STRUCTURE[#0h]: Last border-out at:2045*2KB=4188160 READ TRACK INFORMATION[#1]: Track Size:2247216*2KB READ CAPACITY: 2247216*2048=4602298368 For -dvd-compat/-video recording last border-out, track size and capacity would normally be the same. Inconsistently low last border-out value is known to confuse some players rendering such media unplayable in this players. Question is why is it low? I used to account it to media defects in lead-in area. At least if advised to try different media or media brand in such situation, other users seem to confirm that failure is not reproducible. However! As I realize now they all reported value of 2045... Common media fault? Hardly... Common firmware deficiency? Can be... Common usage pattern, such as interference with auto-mounting facility? Can be... At least it's least likely recording program's fault, because last border-out position is pure firmware domain, i.e. recording program has nothing to say about it (not to mention that it's generally known to come out right, i.e. equal to last written block + 1). Could anyone suggest how I should be burning these DVD's to ensure they are compatible with both windows and more DVD players? If you want to try DVD+R, then do make sure that you instruct your unit to burn it with so called DVD-ROM book-type with 'dvd+rw-booktype -dvd-rom -unit+r /dev/dvd'. Lite-on should allow you to do that. As for DVD-R. There was a case of malformed border-out position mentioned in http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/hcn.html, look for BTC. If your firmware can't correctly handle incremental recording, then -use-the-force-luke=dao might be solution even for you. A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Burning a Windows / DVD player compatible DVD
Bob wrote: Hi, I'm really struggling with this whole compatible DVD thing. For my amateur dramatics group, I have produced a DVD of our show, including menus and all sorts of fun like that. The DVD plays perfectly with xine dvd://video/dvd. I have burned the DVD in many different ways, such as growisofs -dvd-compat -dvd-video -Z /dev/scd1 . and most of the ways I burn it will work perfectly on my panasonic DVD player. However, when I distributed these DVD's to other people, I have received reports that they don't work on Windows machines (they apparently show up as a blank DVD), Mac's (similar I guess - but no detail on that) or some DVD drives (which just refuse to read them). I believe the DVD that was written that works on Linux and my DVD player is using the UDF file system, but several real DVD's I have use iso9660. I tried burning it with iso9660 (actually using gnomebaker) and that fails to play on my DVD player, but it is recognised and can be played by a windows computer. I'm currently using DVD-R disks, which I understood to be more likely compatible with DVD players (although I may have that wrong because http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/ suggests that DVD+R disks are more compatible). In case it is useful, I have pasted the output of dvd+rw-mediainfo for one of the burned DVD's at http://pastebin.com/m7479a9c Could anyone suggest how I should be burning these DVD's to ensure they are compatible with both windows and more DVD players? I have been using DVD-R, creating the ISO images to burn with dvdstyler. I usually burn with growisofs, but I have used (original) cdrecord as well, and that works as well. I burn these on several machines, and often create the mpeg files using ffmpeg and starting with some other format. I create all my mpg files in 720x480 DVD format if they aren't already, I don't trust conversions to do it by magic. No magic trick. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Woe unto the statesman who makes war without a reason that will still be valid when the war is over... Otto von Bismark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Burning a Windows / DVD player compatible DVD
Hi, I'm really struggling with this whole compatible DVD thing. For my amateur dramatics group, I have produced a DVD of our show, including menus and all sorts of fun like that. The DVD plays perfectly with xine dvd://video/dvd. I have burned the DVD in many different ways, such as growisofs -dvd-compat -dvd-video -Z /dev/scd1 . and most of the ways I burn it will work perfectly on my panasonic DVD player. However, when I distributed these DVD's to other people, I have received reports that they don't work on Windows machines (they apparently show up as a blank DVD), Mac's (similar I guess - but no detail on that) or some DVD drives (which just refuse to read them). I believe the DVD that was written that works on Linux and my DVD player is using the UDF file system, but several real DVD's I have use iso9660. I tried burning it with iso9660 (actually using gnomebaker) and that fails to play on my DVD player, but it is recognised and can be played by a windows computer. I'm currently using DVD-R disks, which I understood to be more likely compatible with DVD players (although I may have that wrong because http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/ suggests that DVD+R disks are more compatible). In case it is useful, I have pasted the output of dvd+rw-mediainfo for one of the burned DVD's at http://pastebin.com/m7479a9c Could anyone suggest how I should be burning these DVD's to ensure they are compatible with both windows and more DVD players? Thanks a lot, Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Burning a Windows / DVD player compatible DVD
Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm really struggling with this whole compatible DVD thing. For my amateur dramatics group, I have produced a DVD of our show, including menus and all sorts of fun like that. The DVD plays perfectly with xine dvd://video/dvd. I have burned the DVD in many different ways, such as growisofs -dvd-compat -dvd-video -Z /dev/scd1 . and most of the ways I burn it will work perfectly on my panasonic DVD player. If you are on a recent Linux distro, you may first like to replace the broken mkisofs fork with the real software ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/ Release 2.01.01a40 is the latest 1) Create a _correct_ DVD video tree using video preparer software Make sure VIDEO_TS in all upper case 2) Call mkisofs -o xxx.iso -dvd-video some_dir some_dir needs to include VDEO_TS 3) write the image using cdrecord -v xxx.iso Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
