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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2007:0884 CentOS 5 x86_64 gfs-kmod Update
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2007:0884
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kmod-gfs-xen-0.1.16-5.2.6.18_8.1.10.el5.x86_64.rpm
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[CentOS-announce] CESA-2007:0845 Important CentOS 5 x86_64 libvorbis Update
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[CentOS-announce] CESA-2007:0890 Moderate CentOS 5 i386 php Update
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2007:0890 Moderate
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2007:0890 Moderate
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[CentOS-es] Re: Resumen de CentOS-es, Vol 9, Envío 15
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Envie los mensajes para la lista CentOS-es a centos-es@centos.org Para subscribirse o anular su subscripción a través de WEB http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es O por correo electrónico, enviando un mensaje con el texto help en el asunto (subject) o en el cuerpo a: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Puede contactar con el responsable de la lista escribiendo a: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Si responde a algún contenido de este mensaje, por favor, edite la linea del asunto (subject) para que el texto sea mas especifico que: Re: Contents of CentOS-es digest Ademas, por favor, incluya en la respuesta solo aquellas partes del mensaje a las que esta respondiendo. Asuntos del día: 1. Problemas con Centos 5 y placa Intel DP965LT (Limbert Fuentes Quiroga) 2. Re: Problemas con Centos 5 y placa Intel DP965LT (Hardy Beltran Monasterios) 3. Como participar en los foros? (Emiliano Avendano) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:16:07 -0400 From: Limbert Fuentes Quiroga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CentOS-es] Problemas con Centos 5 y placa Intel DP965LT To: centos-es@centos.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Estimados, Por favor requiero de su colaboración. desde hace 2 días intento instalar CentOS 5 en una placa intel DP965LT con 3 discos SATA, pero hasta el momento no logro instalarlo. El problema que tengo es que durante la instalación solo me reconoce 2 discos pero el tercer disco no me reconoce, requiero tener los tres discos para configurarlo en Raid 5. Gracias de antemano por su colaboración. Saludos -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:37:25 -0400 From: Hardy Beltran Monasterios [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CentOS-es] Problemas con Centos 5 y placa Intel DP965LT To: centos-es@centos.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 El mié, 19-09-2007 a las 14:16 -0400, Limbert Fuentes Quiroga escribió: Estimados, Por favor requiero de su colaboración. desde hace 2 dÃas intento instalar CentOS 5 en una placa intel DP965LT con 3 discos SATA, pero hasta el momento no logro instalarlo. El problema que tengo es que durante la instalación solo me reconoce 2 discos pero el tercer disco no me reconoce, requiero tener los tres discos para configurarlo en Raid 5. Gracias de antemano por su colaboración. Será que esto te sirve: http://www.softwarelibre.org.bo/pipermail/general/2007-September/001692.html Cuéntamos como te va. Saludos Gracias por responder Te comento que ya intente con todas estas opciones y aun asi no me reconoce el tercer disco en la instalación, lo extraño es que en el bios de la placa me reconoce los tres discos y no asi en la instalación de linux. Saludos ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
[CentOS-es] Hola a Todos ...Consejos
Hola, Colegas. Resulta que hace algun tiempo que estaba alejado de la administracion de redes y ahora comence de nuevo y me encuentro que todos los servidores de la empresa son Windows (todos los dias dan problemas) y quiero quitarme todo esto de arriba. Tengo la instalacion de CentOS 5 y esto ha cambiado mucho desde que lo deje en RedHat 7.1 y necesito algunos consejos: 1. Puedo con el desarrollo actual que tiene Linux quitar el PDC de Windows y activar samba y que las estaciones Windows se autentifiquen en linux normalmente ? Que necesito para eso ? 2. En la actualidad hay Exchange para el correo electronico, antiguamente utilizaba sendmail pero hay nuevas aplicaciones de correo y queria ver cual de ellas es la mejor o mas completa en estos momentos, pues tengo varios tipos de usuarios y con diferentes tipos de alcance en la mensajeria, hay algunos que solo pueden enviar dentro de la empresa, otros con alcance nacional y determinados dominios y direcciones y los restantes sin ninguna restriccion, ademas quiero eliminar el Outlook y poner una interfase web para tener mas control y quitarme problemas de encima. 3. De proxy tengo un ISA que no es muy amigable para mi, prefiero squid pero hay algunas cosas que nunca hice con squid, por ejemplo yo antiguamente al usuario que podia navegar pues podia navegar, pero el problema es la navegacion aqui es por tipo de usuario, hay pcs que pueden navegar por la intranet de la empresa, otros que pueden tener acceso a publicaciones y sitios especificos y los demas acceso completo, tambien hay usuarios que pueden usar gestores de descargas como DAP, GetRigth, etc y otros NO, o sea, pueden tener navegacion pero no se les debe permitir descargar nada. Esto antes se hacia con las ACL pero ahora no se que nivel de personalizacion pueda lograr con ello. 4. Necesito algun servicio de comunicacion SIP, hay montado OfficeLive pero quizas pueda lograrse algun otro mejor que permita crear salas de chat, o brinde mas opciones. 5. Tengo varias aplicaciones hechas en Foxpro para DOS, Visual Basic 6, Access y demas. Queria probar alguna pc con Ubuntu y correr alguna de estas aplicaciones, me comentaron que habia cierto emulador para esto pero lo desconozco, alguien podria aclararme que hay de cierto en esto; esto es con el objetivo de hacer algunas pruebas y ver si tambien me quito el dichoso windows de las estaciones de trabajo. Bueno, estas son algunas dudas que tengo despues de tanto tiempo. Espero sus acertados consejos... slds, Dioblan pd. acentos omitidos intencionalmente... ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
[CentOS-es] desarrollo de aplicacion grande
Hola, miren nuevamente acudo a uds. para ver que me puedan colaborar y brindar sugerencias sobre lo siguiente: Acabo de ingresar a trabajar a un empresa, en la cual se tiene previsto desarrollar una gran aplicacion financiera (por los modulos de que se componen sera una aplicacion de buen tamaño). Resulta que las personas que finaciaran este desarrollo, tienen casi decidido afrontar este desarrollo en .net(sqlserver+c#+asp.net) principalmente por temas de rapidez en el desarrollo, obviamnete algunos de los desarrolladores tenemos la mision de cambiar esta decision y plantear el uso de SL, segun la distribucion de la empresa y sus sucursales se tendria el siguiente entorno: * aplicacion en entorno web (indispensable) * 1 oficina central * 20 a 25 surcursales (20 a 30 usuarios cada una) * conexion por medio de adsl de 256,512, 1Mb (Segun la posibilidad de acceso en cada sucursal) * se dispondra de clientes remotos internacionalmente (via internet) Se tiene previsto disponer un servidor (aplicacion+BD) en cada una para mejorar el acceso a la aplicacion por parte de los usuarios locales y hacer que estos no sientan el fecto de su velocidad de acceso (entre la of central y su sucursal que puede ser baja), pero por debajo hacer que los servidores de las sucursales se sincronicen con el servidor central para tener los datos actualizados (replicacion). Bueno mi consulta, va referida a que segun estas caracteristicas se puede plantear mejores alternativas, tanto para acceso como para implementacion, a mi personalmente me gustaria saber si todo esto se puede hacer con herramientas de software libre tanto en BD como en desarrollo y cuales podrian ser las mejores alternativas, y si alguno tuviera alguna experincia , me gustaria me la comparta. disculpen la aplitud del mensaje y gracias adelantadas para los que me den alguna sugerencia Graciela ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
[CentOS-es] Saludos y primeras preguntas
Hola a Todos ...ConsejosUn saludos a toda la gente del foro, Tengo ya tiempo con CentOS y me parece genial esta distribución. Con respecto a CentOS 5.0 Tengo algunas consultas: 1. Antes yo cargaba Centos 4.5 en modo consola con el parametro vga=791 para tener una resolución de 1024 x 768 en modo texto. Pero eso no funciona ahora en CentOS 5. Alguien sabe como hacerlo ? 2. El servicio DNS ( named ) no funciona por que le falta archivos de configuración, sabe alguien en que paquete o como puedo dejar funcionando de forma básica este servicio ??? Bueno ... son dos inconvenientes que he tenido con respecto a CentOS 5, por lo demas todo super bien. Saludos y gracias de antemano por la ayuda. Javier. ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] desarrollo de aplicacion grande
El día 20/09/07, Graciela Urquieta [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Hola, miren nuevamente acudo a uds. para ver que me puedan colaborar y brindar sugerencias sobre lo siguiente: Acabo de ingresar a trabajar a un empresa, en la cual se tiene previsto desarrollar una gran aplicacion financiera (por los modulos de que se componen sera una aplicacion de buen tamaño). Resulta que las personas que finaciaran este desarrollo, tienen casi decidido afrontar este desarrollo en .net(sqlserver+c#+asp.net) principalmente por temas de rapidez en el desarrollo, bueno también se debe pensar en costos de implementación , licencias por el uso y la distribución y un montón de costos añadidos al desarrollo legal con herramientas de microsoft. Por otro lado esta la pregunta... ¿que es mas importante.. desarrollo rápido o aplicaciones integras seguras y efectivas? Por otra parte al desarrollar con asp estan destinando a los usuarios a ser usuarios windows. Los servidores de datos y los servidores de aplicaciones seran propensos siempre a virus y demás problemas Al ejecutar aplicaciones en windows necesitas una maquina con mayores carateristicas para brindar un servicio adecuado comparado con la maquina que necesitas si utilizas servidores linux obviamnete algunos de los desarrolladores tenemos la mision de cambiar esta decision y plantear el uso de SL, segun la distribucion de la empresa y sus sucursales se tendria el siguiente entorno: * aplicacion en entorno web (indispensable) * 1 oficina central * 20 a 25 surcursales (20 a 30 usuarios cada una) * conexion por medio de adsl de 256,512, 1Mb (Segun la posibilidad de acceso en cada sucursal) * se dispondra de clientes remotos internacionalmente (via internet) Se tiene previsto disponer un servidor (aplicacion+BD) en cada una para mejorar el acceso a la aplicacion por parte de los usuarios locales y hacer que estos no sientan el fecto de su velocidad de acceso (entre la of central y su sucursal que puede ser baja), pero por debajo hacer que los servidores de las sucursales se sincronicen con el servidor central para tener los datos actualizados (replicacion). Bueno mi consulta, va referida a que segun estas caracteristicas se puede plantear mejores alternativas, tanto para acceso como para implementacion, a mi personalmente me gustaria saber si todo esto se puede hacer con herramientas de software libre tanto en BD como en desarrollo y cuales podrian ser las mejores alternativas, y si alguno tuviera alguna experincia , me gustaria me la comparta. una de las mejores soluciones que se me ocurre es PHP + POSTGRESQL+ APACHE php como lenguaje base, he oído de delphi for php que es una herramienta de diseño visual que genera código php sería una excelente alternativa. otra alternativa bastante buena es utilizar un framework de aplicaciones para que la codificación sea rápida... aun cuando existen muchos en la red me parece que los mejores y mas completos son cake y el framework de zend En cuanto a apache no hay mucho que decir es un excelente servidor de aplicaciones que soporta una gran cantidad de lenguajes php, jsp, ruby y muchos otros POSTGRESQL bueno es en mi opinión uno de los mejores servidores de base de datos tiene mucha robustez y seguridad, tiene la base de los scripts bajo linus con lo que puedes hacer maravillas como copias automáticas, manejo de cambios y mucho más También tiene soporte a varios lenguajes procedurales y al clásico pl/psql En cuanto al tema de la replicacion sobre postgres Slony o DBLink disculpen la aplitud del mensaje y gracias adelantadas para los que me den alguna sugerencia Graciela ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es -- Vladito VLADIMIR E. CASTRO SALAS La libertad no es el objetivo... es el PRINCIPIO ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] desarrollo de aplicacion grande
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{Spam?} Re: [CentOS-es] Saludos y primeras preguntas
Javier Aquino H. wrote:
Hola a Todos ...ConsejosUn saludos a toda la gente del foro,
Tengo ya tiempo con CentOS y me parece genial esta distribución.
Con respecto a CentOS 5.0 Tengo algunas consultas:
1. Antes yo cargaba Centos 4.5 en modo consola con el parametro vga=791 para
tener una resolución de 1024 x 768 en modo texto. Pero eso no funciona ahora en
CentOS 5. Alguien sabe como hacerlo ?
2. El servicio DNS ( named ) no funciona por que le falta archivos de
configuración, sabe alguien en que paquete o como puedo dejar funcionando de
forma básica este servicio ???
Debes instalar el paquete caching-nameserver, el archivo existe pero con
otro nombre.
/etc/named.caching-nameserver.conf
recuerda ajustar estos parámetros:
listen-on port 53 { 127.0.0.1; };
allow-query { localhost; };
match-clients { localhost; };
match-destinations { localhost; };
saludos!
epe
Bueno ... son dos inconvenientes que he tenido con respecto a CentOS 5, por lo demas todo super bien.
Saludos y gracias de antemano por la ayuda.
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Re: [CentOS-es] desarrollo de aplicacion grande
On 9/20/07, Graciela Urquieta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hola, miren nuevamente acudo a uds. para ver que me puedan colaborar y brindar sugerencias sobre lo siguiente: Acabo de ingresar a trabajar a un empresa, en la cual se tiene previsto desarrollar una gran aplicacion financiera (por los modulos de que se componen sera una aplicacion de buen tamaño). Resulta que las personas que finaciaran este desarrollo, tienen casi decidido afrontar este desarrollo en .net(sqlserver+c#+asp.net) principalmente por temas de rapidez en el desarrollo, obviamnete algunos de los desarrolladores tenemos la mision de cambiar esta decision y plantear el uso de SL, segun la distribucion de la empresa y sus sucursales se tendria el siguiente entorno: * aplicacion en entorno web (indispensable) * 1 oficina central * 20 a 25 surcursales (20 a 30 usuarios cada una) * conexion por medio de adsl de 256,512, 1Mb (Segun la posibilidad de acceso en cada sucursal) * se dispondra de clientes remotos internacionalmente (via internet) Se tiene previsto disponer un servidor (aplicacion+BD) en cada una para mejorar el acceso a la aplicacion por parte de los usuarios locales y hacer que estos no sientan el fecto de su velocidad de acceso (entre la of central y su sucursal que puede ser baja), pero por debajo hacer que los servidores de las sucursales se sincronicen con el servidor central para tener los datos actualizados (replicacion). Bueno mi consulta, va referida a que segun estas caracteristicas se puede plantear mejores alternativas, tanto para acceso como para implementacion, a mi personalmente me gustaria saber si todo esto se puede hacer con herramientas de software libre tanto en BD como en desarrollo y cuales podrian ser las mejores alternativas, y si alguno tuviera alguna experincia , me gustaria me la comparta. disculpen la aplitud del mensaje y gracias adelantadas para los que me den alguna sugerencia Graciela ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es Porque siempre el foco es en desarrollar rapido la mayoria de los sistemas fallan por la falta de mantenimiento a mediano / largo plazo y otro tanto por no pensar en hacer las aplicaciones escalables o crecimiento. si, hay que liberar pronto pero parte de liberar un sistema es tener en cuenta el mantenimiento y su costo a mediano y largo plazo en cuanto a las herramientas si solo sabes usar un martillo todos los problemas los veras como clavos. y claro que se puede hacer con software libre .. en cuanto a las herramientas : Base de datos : PostgreSQL lenguajes : Python ( con django o turbogears o modpython ) o el recien liberado como GPL Java aunque aun no este como para produccion la version libre pero se puede iniciar con el de SUN luego cambiar el JRE por uno 100% libre como icedtea -- Leonel ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] desarrollo de aplicacion grande
Hola, de principio gracias a todos por responder y dar sus sugerencias, a lo mejor que algunas cosas no las upe explicar bien, ahora detallo esas, para que tengan una idea mas clara: * Tengo enetendio que si se busco, para ver si existia aplicaciones que cumplan con los requerimientos, lastimosamente no encontraron una. ademas que para ir desarrollando modulos faltantes sobre alguna aplicacion candidata, decidieron que era preferible desarrollarla completa. * Para que tengan una idea la aplicacion no solo toca aspectos financieros, mas alcontrario toma aspectos de control y seguimiento de proyectos de inversion (pagos, reversiones, etc), adquisiciones nacionales e internacionales, manejo de cartera para creditos a sectores productivos, control y seguimiento de obras financiadas por distintos organismos (gubernamentales, ongs, etc) y varios otros modulos relacionados con financiamientos a proyectos. * El tiempo previsto es de 10 meses, contatando almenos 10 desarrolladores expertos en la herramienta, tambien se planifico una capcitacion para todos los que ya trabajamos para que estemos al nivel de los contratados. De entre todas las sugerencias, existen algunas que no conocia y me llaman la atencion, por ejemplo: * Catalyst (este puede generar CRUDs de forma automatica?, al igual que symfony y RoR?) * XSP mod_mono (he visto que en las aplicaciones .net pueden compilar y obtener un .exe de la aplicacion y publicarla en el IIS, esto es soportado por XSP y mod_mono?) agradeceria si me pudiesen dar mas detalles al respecto. atte Graciela ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] desarrollo de aplicacion grande
En mi trabajo usamos en entornos de producción lo siguiente: 1) JBOSS como servidor de aplicaciones. 2) PostgreSQL como SGBD. 3) J2EE Esta configuración cumple perfectamente los requisitos que planteastes inicialmente, añadiende se consigue perfectamente alta disponibilidad. Como entorno de desarrollo: Eclipse Como ves el conjunto es idóneo para el entorno que estás planteando. Es más, si te empeñas en el uso de plataforma .NET, está MONO, pero mi recomendación es la indicada al comienzo: JBOSS + PGSQL + J2EE. Salu2 El Jue, 20 de Septiembre de 2007, 23:12, Graciela Urquieta escribió: Hola, de principio gracias a todos por responder y dar sus sugerencias, a lo mejor que algunas cosas no las upe explicar bien, ahora detallo esas, para que tengan una idea mas clara: * Tengo enetendio que si se busco, para ver si existia aplicaciones que cumplan con los requerimientos, lastimosamente no encontraron una. ademas que para ir desarrollando modulos faltantes sobre alguna aplicacion candidata, decidieron que era preferible desarrollarla completa. * Para que tengan una idea la aplicacion no solo toca aspectos financieros, mas alcontrario toma aspectos de control y seguimiento de proyectos de inversion (pagos, reversiones, etc), adquisiciones nacionales e internacionales, manejo de cartera para creditos a sectores productivos, control y seguimiento de obras financiadas por distintos organismos (gubernamentales, ongs, etc) y varios otros modulos relacionados con financiamientos a proyectos. * El tiempo previsto es de 10 meses, contatando almenos 10 desarrolladores expertos en la herramienta, tambien se planifico una capcitacion para todos los que ya trabajamos para que estemos al nivel de los contratados. De entre todas las sugerencias, existen algunas que no conocia y me llaman la atencion, por ejemplo: * Catalyst (este puede generar CRUDs de forma automatica?, al igual que symfony y RoR?) * XSP mod_mono (he visto que en las aplicaciones .net pueden compilar y obtener un .exe de la aplicacion y publicarla en el IIS, esto es soportado por XSP y mod_mono?) agradeceria si me pudiesen dar mas detalles al respecto. atte Graciela ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS] Linux groups and policies
umair shakil wrote: Dear All Salam, Does anyone work on Linux groups and policies like; I have squid.conf, i want to run it by my user and for starting and restarting services only sudo can be command but we want to totally eleminate ROOT password. when a user is in the sudoers list, and they use the sudo command to execute predefined commands as root, sudo prompts for the USERS password, not the root password. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Linux groups and policies
Dear, Thanks for help, i need a proper link or documentation. i dont only need to excute the command but needs to edit the file too. I made some attempt but not effected, i m using ubunto as desktop, put my site in /var/www/umair. i made the group data. put user alpacino in it and chown root:data to /var/www/umair. when i edit index.html through user alpacino it says changing Readonly file. Regards, Umair Shakil ETD On 9/20/07, John R Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: umair shakil wrote: Dear All Salam, Does anyone work on Linux groups and policies like; I have squid.conf, i want to run it by my user and for starting and restarting services only sudo can be command but we want to totally eleminate ROOT password. when a user is in the sudoers list, and they use the sudo command to execute predefined commands as root, sudo prompts for the USERS password, not the root password. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Problems building LPRng src RPM
James A. Peltier wrote: ... It looked like it went through the ./configure portion OK. Any ideas? Has someone else gotta LPRng to work on CentOS 5? Yes. With difficulty. :-) This problem is fixed by: 1. installing the LPRng src rpm 2. cd /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES 3. mkdir unpack 4. cd unpack 5. tar zxf ../LPRng-3.8.27.tgz 6. vi LPRng-3.8.27/Makefile.in 7. Change line 45 from: SHELL=@SHELL@ to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ 8. tar zcf ../LPRng-3.8.27.tgz LPRng-3.8.27 9. cd /usr/src/redhat/SPECS 10.rpmbuild -bb LPRng.spec There are other errors later on; I can't recall how I fixed this, maybe disabling kerberos support? Mogens -- Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg A/S, Computer Department Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Fax: +45 33 27 47 08 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.crc.dk ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Linux groups and policies
umair shakil wrote: Dear, Thanks for help, i need a proper link or documentation. i dont only need to excute the command but needs to edit the file too. I made some attempt but not effected, I'd recommend jsut about any introduction to unix administration book, that should explain the file access rights. i m using ubunto as desktop, put my site in /var/www/umair. i made the group data. put user alpacino in it and chown root:data to /var/www/umair. when i edit index.html through user alpacino it says changing Readonly file. why would root own your website? far more common for the user to own his own website files. anyways, does group 'data' have write privileges to the file /var/www/umair/index.html ? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] running php4 and php5 parallel
Is it possible to run php4 and php5 parallel in Centos4 somehow? If the parallel php5 could be installed from rpm also that would be great also. Regards, Peter ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] running php4 and php5 parallel
Peter Peltonen wrote: Is it possible to run php4 and php5 parallel in Centos4 somehow? If the parallel php5 could be installed from rpm also that would be great also. Not both as apache_mod. You can use one as mod and the other one as cgi. Anyway, PHP4 will almost certainly expire next year (www.gophp5.org) -- 21:50:04 up 2 days, 9:07, 0 users, load average: 0.92, 0.37, 0.18 - Lic. Martín Marqués | SELECT 'mmarques' || Centro de Telemática| '@' || 'unl.edu.ar'; Universidad Nacional| DBA, Programador, del Litoral | Administrador - ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 31, Issue 8
Pirhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2007:0898 Moderate CentOS 4 ia64 xorg-x11 - security update To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2007:0898 https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2007-0898.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ia64: updates/ia64/RPMS/xorg-x11-6.8.2-1.EL.31.ia64.rpm updates/ia64/RPMS/xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL-6.8.2-1.EL.31.ia64.rpm updates/ia64/RPMS/xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU-6.8.2-1.EL.31.ia64.rpm updates/ia64/RPMS/xorg-x11-Xdmx-6.8.2-1.EL.31.ia64.rpm updates/ia64/RPMS/xorg-x11-Xnest-6.8.2-1.EL.31.ia64.rpm updates/ia64/RPMS/xorg-x11-Xvfb-6.8.2-1.EL.31.ia64.rpm updates/ia64/RPMS/xorg-x11-deprecated-libs-6.8.2-1.EL.31.ia64.rpm updates/ia64/RPMS/xorg-x11-deprecated-libs-devel-6.8.2-1.EL.31.ia64.rpm updates/ia64/RPMS/xorg-x11-devel-6.8.2-1.EL.31.ia64.rpm updates/ia64/RPMS/xorg-x11-doc-6.8.2-1.EL.31.ia64.rpm updates/ia64/RPMS/xorg-x11-font-utils-6.8.2-1.EL.31.ia64.rpm updates/ia64/RPMS/xorg-x11-libs-6.8.2-1.EL.31.ia64.rpm updates/ia64/RPMS/xorg-x11-sdk-6.8.2-1.EL.31.ia64.rpm updates/ia64/RPMS/xorg-x11-tools-6.8.2-1.EL.31.ia64.rpm updates/ia64/RPMS/xorg-x11-twm-6.8.2-1.EL.31.ia64.rpm updates/ia64/RPMS/xorg-x11-xauth-6.8.2-1.EL.31.ia64.rpm updates/ia64/RPMS/xorg-x11-xdm-6.8.2-1.EL.31.ia64.rpm updates/ia64/RPMS/xorg-x11-xfs-6.8.2-1.EL.31.ia64.rpm -- Pasi Pirhonen - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://pasi.pirhonen.eu/ Top-postings silently ignored -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/attachments/20070919/b71ff2cb/attachment-0001.bin -- Message: 12 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:50:30 +0300 From: Pasi Pirhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2007:0898 Moderate CentOS 4 s390(x) xorg-x11- security update To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2007:0898 https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2007-0898.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: s390: updates/s390/RPMS/xorg-x11-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390.rpm updates/s390/RPMS/xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390.rpm updates/s390/RPMS/xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390.rpm updates/s390/RPMS/xorg-x11-Xdmx-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390.rpm updates/s390/RPMS/xorg-x11-Xnest-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390.rpm updates/s390/RPMS/xorg-x11-Xvfb-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390.rpm updates/s390/RPMS/xorg-x11-deprecated-libs-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390.rpm updates/s390/RPMS/xorg-x11-deprecated-libs-devel-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390.rpm updates/s390/RPMS/xorg-x11-devel-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390.rpm updates/s390/RPMS/xorg-x11-font-utils-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390.rpm updates/s390/RPMS/xorg-x11-libs-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390.rpm updates/s390/RPMS/xorg-x11-tools-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390.rpm updates/s390/RPMS/xorg-x11-twm-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390.rpm updates/s390/RPMS/xorg-x11-xauth-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390.rpm updates/s390/RPMS/xorg-x11-xdm-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390.rpm updates/s390/RPMS/xorg-x11-xfs-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390.rpm s390x: updates/s390x/RPMS/xorg-x11-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390x.rpm updates/s390x/RPMS/xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390x.rpm updates/s390x/RPMS/xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390x.rpm updates/s390x/RPMS/xorg-x11-Xdmx-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390x.rpm updates/s390x/RPMS/xorg-x11-Xnest-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390x.rpm updates/s390x/RPMS/xorg-x11-Xvfb-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390x.rpm updates/s390x/RPMS/xorg-x11-deprecated-libs-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390x.rpm updates/s390x/RPMS/xorg-x11-deprecated-libs-devel-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390x.rpm updates/s390x/RPMS/xorg-x11-devel-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390x.rpm updates/s390x/RPMS/xorg-x11-font-utils-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390x.rpm updates/s390x/RPMS/xorg-x11-libs-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390x.rpm updates/s390x/RPMS/xorg-x11-tools-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390x.rpm updates/s390x/RPMS/xorg-x11-twm-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390x.rpm updates/s390x/RPMS/xorg-x11-xauth-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390x.rpm updates/s390x/RPMS/xorg-x11-xdm-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390x.rpm updates/s390x/RPMS/xorg-x11-xfs-6.8.2-1.EL.31.s390x.rpm -- Pasi Pirhonen - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://pasi.pirhonen.eu/ Top-postings silently ignored -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/attachments/20070920/2fd7a260/attachment-0001.bin -- ___ CentOS-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce End of CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 31, Issue 8 ** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org
[CentOS] Openoffice 2.3 on centos 5 issue
I have just install OOo 2.3 on new centos 5 box. However OO keep open registration wizard everytime launched, even though i already select i do not want to register. I've been playing with $HOME/.openoffice.org2/ but still no luck. This problem did not happen on FC6, so i guess its not OOo bug. --beast ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] CentOS-4.5 and LG cd-rom/dvd burner
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:36:55 -0400, Steve Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't have such a guide at my fingertips, but try this procedure first: 1) open the File Browser and navigate to the directory containing the ISOs. 2) right-click on the first ISO. 3) select Write to Disc... 4) Make sure that your LG drive is selected in the Write disc to: field. 5) Insert a blank CD. 6) Click Write. 7) Repeat for other ISOs. I guess that I have been around Linux far, far too long. It would never have crossed my mind that creating a cd or dvd would ever be that simple! Thanks. Jim -- *** E-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** James B. Byrnemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Harte Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Choosing VPN Server
Does openvpn support IPsec well? I want the server to work cooperation with a Microsoft ISA Server inside the intranet with site-to-site vpn mode. For that reason I want the server has good compatibility with windows. On 9/19/07, Alain Spineux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenVPN works with windows too (client or server). The same configuration files works on both OS. Very easy to enable multiple VPN connection at the same time. On 9/19/07, Brian Mathis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/19/07, Wei Yu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am facing a task of choosing vpn server. I do not know which is better. The one distributed with CentOS4.5 only supports pppd (or maybe pptp but I cannot find it). If I want to use PPTP or L2TP, which one should I choose? OpenVPN? Poptop? Thanks. I suggest OpenVPN. It's modern, very secure, and had a wide range of options and usage scenarios. PPTP / L2TP is a pain to get working, and it has some security issues. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Alain Spineux aspineux gmail com May the sources be with you ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Zijing 15# 1404B Tsinghua Univ. +86 -10 -51537235 Zig ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Choosing VPN Server
OpenVPN doesn't support IPSec at all. It's an SSL implementation. You'll want to look at Openswan (http://www.openswan.org/) for IPSec. PS. The www is very important when going to the openswan site. Their webserver is configured funky. For Microsoft compatibility, Poptop and Openswan are your best bets. Neither are a piece of cake to setup, but I personally find Openswan easier ... but then I've been using it in a production environment for 5 or 6 years (was Freeswan). -Ken - Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:25:05 +0800 From: Wei Yu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Choosing VPN Server To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Does openvpn support IPsec well? I want the server to work cooperation with a Microsoft ISA Server inside the intranet with site-to-site vpn mode. For that reason I want the server has good compatibility with windows. On 9/19/07, Alain Spineux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenVPN works with windows too (client or server). The same configuration files works on both OS. Very easy to enable multiple VPN connection at the same time. On 9/19/07, Brian Mathis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/19/07, Wei Yu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am facing a task of choosing vpn server. I do not know which is better. The one distributed with CentOS4.5 only supports pppd (or maybe pptp but I cannot find it). If I want to use PPTP or L2TP, which one should I choose? OpenVPN? Poptop? Thanks. I suggest OpenVPN. It's modern, very secure, and had a wide range of options and usage scenarios. PPTP / L2TP is a pain to get working, and it has some security issues. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Alain Spineux aspineux gmail com May the sources be with you ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Zijing 15# 1404B Tsinghua Univ. +86 -10 -51537235 Zig - End message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] xorg-x11
On 9/20/07, Barton Callender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank-you for the response, I have xorg-x11-server-sdk package installed. I am trying to rebuild fluxbox source from kbs-Centos repos. I get this error message: - xorg-x11-devel is needed by fluxbox-0.9.13-1.i38 You'll probably have to modify the spec to get this to build correctly. That package is a centos4 package name, and doesn't exist in centos5. There's also no direct 'Provides' for it, as it's been split over a couple different packages. You should see that line in the BuildRequires: section of the spec file. Change it to the xorg-x11-server-sdk package and try the build again. -- During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Problems building LPRng src RPM
On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 08:16 +0200, Mogens Kjaer wrote: James A. Peltier wrote: ... It looked like it went through the ./configure portion OK. Any ideas? Has someone else gotta LPRng to work on CentOS 5? Yes. With difficulty. :-) This problem is fixed by: 1. installing the LPRng src rpm 2. cd /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES 3. mkdir unpack 4. cd unpack 5. tar zxf ../LPRng-3.8.27.tgz 6. vi LPRng-3.8.27/Makefile.in 7. Change line 45 from: SHELL=@SHELL@ to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ 8. tar zcf ../LPRng-3.8.27.tgz LPRng-3.8.27 9. cd /usr/src/redhat/SPECS 10.rpmbuild -bb LPRng.spec Preferred way to do this would be to create a patch to be applied in the spec file. The above should work as a quick-and-dirty fix, but hides the changes in the tarball without changing the version. Phil ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] xorg-x11
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:43:56 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] xorg-x11 On 9/19/07, Barton Callender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, Are there any xorg-x11-devel or xorg-server-devel rpm for centos 5? Yes and no. The packages for xorg have been renamed slightly (a change inherited from upstream) and the number of packages involved in the xorg suite has exploded. You probably want the xorg-x11-server-sdk package, though there are some others which you may also need. You can run the following command to see them all: yum list xorg-x11\* -- During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Hi, Thank-you for the response, I have xorg-x11-server-sdk package installed. I am trying to rebuild fluxbox source from kbs-Centos repos. I get this error message: - xorg-x11-devel is needed by fluxbox-0.9.13-1.i38 Thank-you _ Capture your memories in an online journal! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 2 nics, 2 networks, 2 switches
On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 13:52 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: are there OTHER networks on the WAN accessed via B's gateway/router ? network A's gateway is the internet route? if B's gateway has routes to the rest of 10.x.x.x, I'd just define a static route like 10.0.0.0/8 - B's gateway/router's IP, and leave the DEFAULT gateway as network A's internet/DMZ router. Ok, I'm totally lost on this. I think I did what you suggested, but it didn't work. I'm actually surprised I haven't found more info on configuring two NICs for two separate networks. I thought it would have been a relatively common procedure, and therefore fairly well documented. Anyone know of half decent sites that discuss how to implement what I'm trying to do? Regards, Ranbir -- Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu Linux 2.6.22.2-42.fc6 i686 GNU/Linux 10:59:24 up 20 days, 9:23, 4 users, load average: 0.92, 0.58, 0.49 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] LDAP / PAM -- Invalid Credentials Error
Thank you for you response, but I might not have been clear in my original email. All of the other servers (servers[1-9]) are working properly, i.e. the user 'testuser' is able to log in using the password I set, and is able to change the password using passwd, among other things of course. So because of this, I assume LDAP is working properly. My question is why can't 'testuser' log into the actual LDAP server? There must be some configuration difference, but I just can't find it. I obviously would not change /etc/pam.d/system-auth manually, I would use 'authconfig' to make any changes. I already turned off WINBIND and that did nothing to fix it. Unless something has to be restarted, (other than ldap, sshd) then this wasn't the cause. The /etc/ldap.conf is configured properly, on all machines, which is why I assume the user is able to log into the other 9 servers. These are CentOS 4.5 servers, so they are running openldap-2.2.13-7.4E Running 'getend passwd' (didn't know that command, thanks for that one) shows the user, so I assume the password is correctly setup (kinda already knew that since he can log into all other machines) I will keep trying, and will read through the documentation. On Sep 19, 2007, at 11:00 PM, Craig White wrote: you can't bind as a user that doesn't have a password you don't have users until you have configured /etc/ldap.conf properly 1 - use 'system-config-authentication' and don't edit /etc/pam.d/system-auth uncheck Windows authentication and winbindd goes away 2 - edit /etc/ldap.conf to properly match your ldap setup, when you get it set up properly, the command 'getent passwd' will first list the contents of /etc/passwd and then list whatever you have setup for nss_base_passwd in /etc/ldap.conf 3 - you really need better understanding of LDAP...try a book I'll recommend a really old one but really good for basic LDAP knowledge... LDAP System Administration by Gerald Carter or OpenLDAP v 2.3 (included with CentOS-5) http://www.openldap.org/doc/admin23/ OpenLDAP v 2.2 (included with CentOS-4) http://www.openldap.org/doc/admin22/ a hint here...you don't say whether you're using CentOS-4 or CentOS-5 man ldap.conf # refers to ldap.conf supplied by openldap - the file located at /etc/openldap/ldap.conf and man 8 ldap.conf (CentOS-4 IIRC) or man pam_ldap (CentOS-5) refers to /etc/ldap.conf (supplied as part of padl's nss) good luck Craig On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 18:19 -0400, Von Landfried wrote: Hello, I am having a small issue with LDAP, and I hope someone here might be able to provide a few tips. I am unable to authenticate as user 'testuser' on server 'storage' and the following errors appear in /var/log/messages on server 'storage' Sep 19 16:56:17 storage sshd(pam_unix)[3124]: check pass; user unknown Sep 19 16:56:17 storage sshd(pam_unix)[3124]: authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=test-kja1 Sep 19 16:56:17 storage sshd[3124]: pam_ldap: error trying to bind as user uid=testuser,ou=People,dc=example,dc=local (Invalid credentials) I am also unable to issue this command: # passwd testuser passwd: Unknown user name 'testuser'. but this command works fine: # finger testuser Login: testuserName: Test User Directory: /home/testuser Shell: /bin/bash Never logged in. No mail. No Plan. The server 'storage' is the LDAP host server, and there are about 9 other servers configured to use 'storage' to authenticate users. All 9 of them allow 'testuser' to login and also for him to change his password. Issuing this command: # ldapsearch -x -b 'uid=testuser,ou=People,dc=example,dc=local' '(objectclass=*)' # extended LDIF # # LDAPv3 # base uid=testuser,ou=People,dc=example,dc=local with scope sub # filter: (objectclass=*) # requesting: ALL # # testuser, People, example.local dn: uid=testuser,ou=People,dc=example,dc=local uid: testuser cn: Sean Cook objectClass: account objectClass: posixAccount objectClass: top objectClass: shadowAccount shadowMax: 9 shadowWarning: 7 loginShell: /bin/bash uidNumber: 547 gidNumber: 500 homeDirectory: /home/testuser # search result search: 2 result: 0 Success # numResponses: 2 # numEntries: 1 I think the issue might be with PAM, because comparing all files I can think of doesnt point me to any differences except /etc/pam.d/ system-auth The LDAP server 'storage' has WINBIND turned on, as follows: authrequired /lib/security/$ISA/pam_env.so authsufficient/lib/security/$ISA/pam_unix.so likeauth nullok authsufficient/lib/security/$ISA/pam_ldap.so use_first_pass authsufficient/lib/security/$ISA/pam_winbind.so use_first_pass authrequired /lib/security/$ISA/pam_deny.so account required /lib/security/$ISA/pam_unix.so broken_shadow
Re: [CentOS] Choosing VPN Server
On Thursday 20 September 2007, Ken Price wrote: OpenVPN doesn't support IPSec at all. It's an SSL implementation. You'll want to look at Openswan (http://www.openswan.org/) for IPSec. PS. The www is very important when going to the openswan site. Their webserver is configured funky. For Microsoft compatibility, Poptop and Openswan are your best bets. Neither are a piece of cake to setup, but I personally find Openswan easier ... but then I've been using it in a production environment for 5 or 6 years (was Freeswan). You'll want an L2TP setup, though, for best security, performance, and best compatibility. There are commercial Linux firewall boxes that do this easily; SmoothWall is one. Barring that, install l2tpd (for CentOS 4 it's on Karanbir's CentOS repo; for CentOS 5 I'm not sure, as I don't have extra repos enabled on any of my CentOS 5 boxes). Windows L2TP VPN's are the most secure, being PPP over L2TP over IPsec, without the holes that have plagued PPTP (PPP over L2TP does essentiall the same thing PPTP does, but in a more secure and standard manner). -- Lamar Owen Chief Information Officer Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Openoffice 2.3 on centos 5 issue
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:47:07 +0700 beast [EMAIL PROTECTED] took out a #2 pencil and scribbled: I have just install OOo 2.3 on new centos 5 box. However OO keep open registration wizard everytime launched, even though i already select i do not want to register. I've been playing with $HOME/.openoffice.org2/ but still no luck. This problem did not happen on FC6, so i guess its not OOo bug. --beast Although, I can't give you a resolution to your problem, other than possibly trying to reinstall (maybe something geeked out?). I also have OpenOffice on CentOS 5, I do not have that problem. I've not experienced that issue on either the CentOS 4.5 or 5 series. -- Alex White [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life is a prison, death is a release ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Choosing VPN Server
Wei Yu wrote: Does openvpn support IPsec well? I want the server to work cooperation with a Microsoft ISA Server inside the intranet with site-to-site vpn mode. For that reason I want the server has good compatibility with windows. You don't need IPSec for Windows ISA server compatibility, just add a server publishing rule that forwards your OpenVPN port of choice to the internal OpenVPN server, whether it is on CentOS or Windows doesn't matter. If you use a different SSL port then 443, which you will need to do if you also publish an https: site off of ISA, then you need to run a script that adds that port # to the list of authorized SSL ports on the ISA server. Also when deploying the OpenVPN client to your Windows laptops look at using Group Policy so they are all identically installed and configured. -Ross On 9/19/07, Alain Spineux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenVPN works with windows too (client or server). The same configuration files works on both OS. Very easy to enable multiple VPN connection at the same time. On 9/19/07, Brian Mathis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/19/07, Wei Yu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am facing a task of choosing vpn server. I do not know which is better. The one distributed with CentOS4.5 only supports pppd (or maybe pptp but I cannot find it). If I want to use PPTP or L2TP, which one should I choose? OpenVPN? Poptop? Thanks. I suggest OpenVPN. It's modern, very secure, and had a wide range of options and usage scenarios. PPTP / L2TP is a pain to get working, and it has some security issues. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org mailto:CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Alain Spineux aspineux gmail com May the sources be with you ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Zijing 15# 1404B Tsinghua Univ. +86 -10 -51537235 Zig __ This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete the original and any copy or printout thereof. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] webmin
hi there, i just insalled centos 4.5 minimal, but want to use yum to install webmin? anybody know how?? i try: yum install webmin but not found. thanks, T. Hiep ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] webmin
Hiep Nguyen wrote: hi there, i just insalled centos 4.5 minimal, but want to use yum to install webmin? anybody know how?? i try: yum install webmin but not found. thanks, T. Hiep ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Hi Nguyen, Webmin is available as webmin-1.250-1.2.el4.rf.noarch.rpm from rpmforge repository. Instructions for setting up rpmforge are here: http://wiki.centos.org/Repositories/RPMForge HTH, ~Ray ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] webmin
From your Centos browser, just go to *http://www.webmin.com* download the rpm and install using the default installer... Not a big trick a very easy install. Once installed you can access the program via *https:// your ip or web name:1 * login and away you go... Thanks, john plemons Hiep Nguyen wrote: hi there, i just insalled centos 4.5 minimal, but want to use yum to install webmin? anybody know how?? i try: yum install webmin but not found. thanks, T. Hiep ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] best source for rpmdevtools RPM in C5
On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 08:28 -0700, mark pryor wrote: hello, I'm going to try this question again. The first time I botched it and the answers I got were useless. I want to use rpmdevtools to help with some packaging chores. There is no C5 version that I can find. I've located an SRC RPM in a location that is known to be C5 compatible. There are 2 versions of rpmdevtools: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/6/SRPMS/rpmdevtools-6.1-0.1.fc6.src.rpm http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/6/SRPMS/rpmdevtools-5.3-1.fc6.src.rpm naturally I grabbed the highest version (6.1) and rebuilt it for EL5. The installation halted, missing a version of rpm-build higher than the base version in C5. It seems that rpm-build 4.4.2.1+ comes from FC7. This is the first time that I've seen an FC6 repo package that depended on something from FC7. To use the 6.1 version, you need an updated version of rpm ( 4.4.2 ). FC6 uses rpm-4.4.2.1, which is a slightly modified version of rpm-4.4.2 from F7 (F7 uses python-2.5, FC6 uses python-2.4). rpmdevtools 5.3.1 builds, installs, and works fine on C5. I think I made the right decisions here (balking at trying to install a higher version of rpm-build). If you need to use rpmdevtools, how would you approach the problem? What source repo would you use? Is there an rhel5 SRC RPM? Where is it? You can try looking at EPEL for it. EPEL is the rebuilding of Fedora Extras, by the Fedora team. If you look at http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/SRPMS/repoview/rpmdevtools.html , you will see that the most recent version is 5.3-1. -- Timothy Selivanow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux System Administrator EasyStreet Online Services, Inc. http://www.easystreet.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Re: webmin
Hiep Nguyen spake the following on 9/20/2007 9:36 AM: hi there, i just insalled centos 4.5 minimal, but want to use yum to install webmin? anybody know how?? i try: yum install webmin but not found. thanks, T. Hiep I see it on Dag Wieers repo, but it is way out of date. I would just download and install it. You can update it from inside webmin after it is running, and if you want to update a bunch of systems, you can set up clustering and update all of them from there at once. -- MailScanner is like deodorant... You hope everybody uses it, and you notice quickly if they don't ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: best source for rpmdevtools RPM in C5
On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 16:54 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote: Is it worth talking to the pkg maintainers at Fedora and getting rpmdevtools included in mirror.centos.org along with the mock we already have there ? I wouldn't mind it. I already rebuild and include it in my own repo, having it in CentOS would reduce that much work (not like it's that much work to begin with...but hey, any way to allow me to be more lazy ;) -- Timothy Selivanow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux System Administrator EasyStreet Online Services, Inc. http://www.easystreet.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Choosing VPN Server
I just want to point out that the default port for openvpn is 1194. SSL/TLS has absolutely nothing to do with port 443, except that https happens to use both port 443 and SSL/TLS. Otherwise, SSL/TLS is simply a toolkit used for encryption, and does not require any specific port whatsoever. Saying so would be like saying that glibc requires network port XYZ. The use of port 443 with openvpn is only mentioned as a convenience, because many firewalls allow traffic to port 443 to pass unrestricted, while they may block other ports. Those of you in the know probably already know this, but for those unfamiliar, the discussion may seem to imply that port 443 and SSL/TLS are tightly bound. This message is intended to clarify that implication. On 9/20/07, Ross S. W. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wei Yu wrote: Does openvpn support IPsec well? I want the server to work cooperation with a Microsoft ISA Server inside the intranet with site-to-site vpn mode. For that reason I want the server has good compatibility with windows. You don't need IPSec for Windows ISA server compatibility, just add a server publishing rule that forwards your OpenVPN port of choice to the internal OpenVPN server, whether it is on CentOS or Windows doesn't matter. If you use a different SSL port then 443, which you will need to do if you also publish an https: site off of ISA, then you need to run a script that adds that port # to the list of authorized SSL ports on the ISA server. Also when deploying the OpenVPN client to your Windows laptops look at using Group Policy so they are all identically installed and configured. -Ross On 9/19/07, Alain Spineux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenVPN works with windows too (client or server). The same configuration files works on both OS. Very easy to enable multiple VPN connection at the same time. On 9/19/07, Brian Mathis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/19/07, Wei Yu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am facing a task of choosing vpn server. I do not know which is better. The one distributed with CentOS4.5 only supports pppd (or maybe pptp but I cannot find it). If I want to use PPTP or L2TP, which one should I choose? OpenVPN? Poptop? Thanks. I suggest OpenVPN. It's modern, very secure, and had a wide range of options and usage scenarios. PPTP / L2TP is a pain to get working, and it has some security issues. -- Alain Spineux aspineux gmail com -- Zijing 15# 1404B Tsinghua Univ. +86 -10 -51537235 Zig ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Choosing VPN Server
John R Pierce wrote: Ross S. W. Walker wrote: Wei Yu wrote: Does openvpn support IPsec well? I want the server to work cooperation with a Microsoft ISA Server inside the intranet with site-to-site vpn mode. For that reason I want the server has good compatibility with windows. You don't need IPSec for Windows ISA server compatibility... it does if the Windows ISA machine is the VPN server as he said. OpenVPN has a Windows version and if the OP wanted to run it on the ISA itself, he is welcome to, though not recommended as it decreases the hardness of the ISA server. OpenVPN server would probably virtualize well as the Internet connection will end up being the limiting bandwidth factor and Internet connectivity is always susceptible to wild latencies, so a little VM added latency surely wouldn't go noticed. frankly, for business site to site VPN, I generally recommend tossing ALL software and OS implementations in favor of Jupiter Netscreen or another router based implementation. I have to agree here, for site-to-site VPNs it is better with hardware accelerated devices on fixed IP addresses doing IPSec. -Ross __ This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete the original and any copy or printout thereof. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] iptables question
Hi all, With SELinux in permissive mode and iptables running, I'm unable to retrieve directory listings with ftp. stop iptables, and all appears again. This seems to be unrelated to passive/port modes for ftp client. If this is off topic, please let me know offlist and I'll take my question elsewhere. Otherwise I'll repost with output of # iptables status TIA, ~Ray ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] iptables question
On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 14:55 -0400, Ray Leventhal wrote: Hi all, With SELinux in permissive mode and iptables running, I'm unable to retrieve directory listings with ftp. stop iptables, and all appears again. This seems to be unrelated to passive/port modes for ftp client. Depending how you configured your iptables rules, you'll probably anyway need the ip_conntrack_ftp iptables module. You can modprobe it, or even better, declare it in /etc/sysconfig/iptables-config ... -- Fabian Arrotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Solution ? echo '16i[q]sa[ln0=aln100%Pln100/snlbx]sbA0D4D465452snlbxq' | dc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] iptables question
Fabian Arrotin wrote: On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 14:55 -0400, Ray Leventhal wrote: Hi all, With SELinux in permissive mode and iptables running, I'm unable to retrieve directory listings with ftp. stop iptables, and all appears again. This seems to be unrelated to passive/port modes for ftp client. Depending how you configured your iptables rules, you'll probably anyway need the ip_conntrack_ftp iptables module. You can modprobe it, or even better, declare it in /etc/sysconfig/iptables-config ... Thanks, Fabian. I'll have at the iptables-config ~Ray ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Postfix Questions
On 18 September 2007, John Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 11 snip Also, we run the SpamHaus blacklist. This works pretty good for inbound, but from time to time one of our hosting clients winds up on the blocklist because they are on a dynamic IP and someone else has recently used it for spamming. One could argue that my client should then go remove their IP from the blacklist to better insure their email actually makes it through any other level of spam filtering on other ISPs. But, that's a rosey concept! John: That happened to us, this week. I was unable to use the SMTP on my web site for somewhere between 48-67 hours, because of Spamhaus. Apparently, this morning, when my wife powered things up, we got a clean IP address. When I went to the Spamhaus web site, it showed the IP numbers clear, but, on other lists. Supposedly, if one uses SMTP Authentication, this problem goes away. However, I have always used SMTP Authentication. I do not want to change to another web hosting ISP, because this problem might follow me. And, I've been with them for almost 6 years. Also, Spamhaus says the problem should go away, in 1 or 2 hours, and in the past that was true, but not this time. Good for you, to want to handle this in a better way for your clients! Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Choosing VPN Server
Brian Mathis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The use of port 443 with openvpn is only mentioned as a convenience, because many firewalls allow traffic to port 443 to pass unrestricted, while they may block other ports. Absolutely right. I never intended to imply anything else. Sorry if there was any confusion. robert ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] A special kernel for linux as guest os
Dear Yagi-san, I heard from the horse's mouth that the CentOS team is working on the 100Hz centosplus kernel. I think your request triggered the action :-) They want make people happy. That sounds nice! This TIPS, CONFIG_HZ=100, is one of FAQs. It will make most of us happy. Now we can get kernel-vm package on dev.centos.org. Is it a test release of the special kernel? I installed the kernel-vm. Its change-log shows HZ=100. And the kernel seems better for clock interval on VMWare. Thanks a lot. Yuji ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] A special kernel for linux as guest os
On 9/20/07, Yuji Tsuchimoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Yagi-san, I heard from the horse's mouth that the CentOS team is working on the 100Hz centosplus kernel. I think your request triggered the action :-) They want make people happy. That sounds nice! This TIPS, CONFIG_HZ=100, is one of FAQs. It will make most of us happy. Now we can get kernel-vm package on dev.centos.org. Is it a test release of the special kernel? I installed the kernel-vm. Its change-log shows HZ=100. And the kernel seems better for clock interval on VMWare. Thanks a lot. Yuji Tsuchimoto-san, Yes, they are in testing. Some of us have been running the 100HZ kernel for more than 2 months and have not seen any problem so far. If you wish to know more details about the development of the virtualization-optimized kernel, please take a look at: http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2189 And feel free to add any comments you have on that report. Akemi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Disk De-Fraging in Linux
A couple of questions. Are there any linux tools that can de-frag an ext2/3 partition? Are there any advantages to doing so if you're running hardware RAID5? Are there advantages / disadvantages if you're running LVM? === Al ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Disk De-Fraging in Linux
Al Sparks wrote: A couple of questions. Are there any linux tools that can de-frag an ext2/3 partition? Are there any advantages to doing so if you're running hardware RAID5? Are there advantages / disadvantages if you're running LVM? === Al you're in luck cause you don't defrag an ext2/3 partition at all. defrag is for windows file systems. Ext file systems are a different animal all-together. -- Mark If you have found a very wise man, then you've found a man that at one time was an idiot and lived long enough to learn from his own stupidity. == Powered by CentOS4 (RHEL4) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] CentOS5 Network Problems
I have a very odd problem connecting to some websites from my CentOS 5 box Target websites: www.connecttech.com www.3ware.com (two of my HW vendors) I can usually get some kind of response, but if the content (download or page itself) is larger in size (downloads never pass 100K), then it hangs... When I fire-up wireshark, I get a lot of ougoing highlighted Checksum Errored packets but I don't know what's causing it... Here's what I've eliminated thus far: - Websites are up and responsive - Cable(s) is fine - Network drop is fine - I put myself behind a firewall to make sure it wasn't my network - Network card has been switched - Driver has been switched - Removed any firewall - wget has problems as well - Other computers on the same network work fine. Sites like maps.google.com work just fine... I'm open to any suggestion at this point. I'm completely lost. - G. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS5 Network Problems
semi linux wrote: I have a very odd problem connecting to some websites from my CentOS 5 box Target websites: www.connecttech.com www.3ware.com (two of my HW vendors) I can usually get some kind of response, but if the content (download or page itself) is larger in size (downloads never pass 100K), then it hangs... When I fire-up wireshark, I get a lot of ougoing highlighted Checksum Errored packets but I don't know what's causing it... Here's what I've eliminated thus far: - Websites are up and responsive - Cable(s) is fine - Network drop is fine - I put myself behind a firewall to make sure it wasn't my network - Network card has been switched - Driver has been switched - Removed any firewall - wget has problems as well - Other computers on the same network work fine. Sites like maps.google.com work just fine... I'm open to any suggestion at this point. I'm completely lost. - G. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos When you say network drop is fine does that mean from the switch to your computer? Have you tried a different port on your switch? -- James A. Peltier Technical Director, RHCE SCIRF | GrUVi @ Simon Fraser University - Burnaby Campus Phone : 604-291-3610 Fax : 604-291-3045 Mobile : 778-840-6434 E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website : http://gruvi.cs.sfu.ca | http://scirf.cs.sfu.ca MSN : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Re: CentOS5 Network Problems
semi linux spake the following on 9/20/2007 4:31 PM: I have a very odd problem connecting to some websites from my CentOS 5 box Target websites: www.connecttech.com www.3ware.com (two of my HW vendors) I can usually get some kind of response, but if the content (download or page itself) is larger in size (downloads never pass 100K), then it hangs... When I fire-up wireshark, I get a lot of ougoing highlighted Checksum Errored packets but I don't know what's causing it... Here's what I've eliminated thus far: - Websites are up and responsive - Cable(s) is fine - Network drop is fine - I put myself behind a firewall to make sure it wasn't my network - Network card has been switched - Driver has been switched - Removed any firewall - wget has problems as well - Other computers on the same network work fine. Sites like maps.google.com work just fine... I'm open to any suggestion at this point. I'm completely lost. - G. Have you eliminated interference from electrical sources? Tried another computer on that cable? -- MailScanner is like deodorant... You hope everybody uses it, and you notice quickly if they don't ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS5 Network Problems
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 at 4:31pm, semi linux wrote I have a very odd problem connecting to some websites from my CentOS 5 box Target websites: www.connecttech.com www.3ware.com (two of my HW vendors) I can usually get some kind of response, but if the content (download or page itself) is larger in size (downloads never pass 100K), then it hangs... I had an odd issue with an FC6 laptop on a hotel wireless network where any encrypted traffic (ssh, https) would hang after a certain amount. The fix was to turn off TCP window scaling (echo 0 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling). Some googling revealed that some routers have issues with TCP window scaling - I don't know why it only affected encrypted traffic in my case, but the fix may be worth a shot for you. -- Joshua Baker-LePain QB3 Shared Cluster Sysadmin UCSF ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: CentOS5 Network Problems
On 9/20/07, Scott Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: semi linux spake the following on 9/20/2007 4:31 PM: I have a very odd problem connecting to some websites from my CentOS 5 box Target websites: www.connecttech.com www.3ware.com (two of my HW vendors) I can usually get some kind of response, but if the content (download or page itself) is larger in size (downloads never pass 100K), then it hangs... When I fire-up wireshark, I get a lot of ougoing highlighted Checksum Errored packets but I don't know what's causing it... Here's what I've eliminated thus far: - Websites are up and responsive - Cable(s) is fine - Network drop is fine - I put myself behind a firewall to make sure it wasn't my network - Network card has been switched - Driver has been switched - Removed any firewall - wget has problems as well - Other computers on the same network work fine. Sites like maps.google.com work just fine... I'm open to any suggestion at this point. I'm completely lost. - G. Have you eliminated interference from electrical sources? Tried another computer on that cable? Yep... my WinXP laptop is sitting right next to the machine and I can switch the cable over to it w/o problem. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] ata1 bootup errors
ata1: port is slow to respond, this delay is known to occur on vacant SATA ports ata1: port failed to respond (30 secs) ata1: SRST failed (status 0xFF) ata1: SRST failed (err_mask=0x100) ata1: softreset failed, retrying in 5 secs ata1: SRST failed (status 0xFF) ata1: SRST failed (err_mask=0x100) ata1: softreset failed, retrying in 5 secs ata1: SRST failed (status 0xFF) ata1: SRST failed (err_mask=0x100) ata1: reset failed, giving up Since I don't have SATA drives, I don't need this to be checked. How do I turn this off? Running CentOS 5.0 (just upgraded frm 4.x). === Al ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS5 Network Problems
On 9/20/07, James A. Peltier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: semi linux wrote: I have a very odd problem connecting to some websites from my CentOS 5 box Target websites: www.connecttech.com www.3ware.com (two of my HW vendors) I can usually get some kind of response, but if the content (download or page itself) is larger in size (downloads never pass 100K), then it hangs... When I fire-up wireshark, I get a lot of ougoing highlighted Checksum Errored packets but I don't know what's causing it... Here's what I've eliminated thus far: - Websites are up and responsive - Cable(s) is fine - Network drop is fine - I put myself behind a firewall to make sure it wasn't my network - Network card has been switched - Driver has been switched - Removed any firewall - wget has problems as well - Other computers on the same network work fine. Sites like maps.google.com work just fine... I'm open to any suggestion at this point. I'm completely lost. - G. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos When you say network drop is fine does that mean from the switch to your computer? Have you tried a different port on your switch? I've used my laptop on the same network drop... I've changed from port A to B in this cube and I've tried A and B in the cube next to me... all four ports produce the same result with the system but work fine with my laptop. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS5 Network Problems
On 9/20/07, Joshua Baker-LePain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 at 4:31pm, semi linux wrote I have a very odd problem connecting to some websites from my CentOS 5 box Target websites: www.connecttech.com www.3ware.com (two of my HW vendors) I can usually get some kind of response, but if the content (download or page itself) is larger in size (downloads never pass 100K), then it hangs... I had an odd issue with an FC6 laptop on a hotel wireless network where any encrypted traffic (ssh, https) would hang after a certain amount. The fix was to turn off TCP window scaling (echo 0 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling). Some googling revealed that some routers have issues with TCP window scaling - I don't know why it only affected encrypted traffic in my case, but the fix may be worth a shot for you. -- Joshua Baker-LePain QB3 Shared Cluster Sysadmin UCSF Wicked! that worked... How weird... I'm going to have to look this up and read about it... it seems weird that the kernel would have it on by default if it's as common as it seems to me. Thanks a million! You don't happen to have any links of where you found this, do you? - G ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS5 Network Problems
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 at 5:04pm, semi linux wrote Wicked! that worked... How weird... I'm going to have to look this up and read about it... it seems weird that the kernel would have it on by default if it's as common as it seems to me. Thanks a million! You don't happen to have any links of where you found this, do you? Here's one: http://lwn.net/Articles/92727/ Bottom line is that the behavior is a result of broken routers, and the kernel leaves it enabled because it *should* work. -- Joshua Baker-LePain QB3 Shared Cluster Sysadmin UCSF ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] OT: packaging Bible posted to usenet as CHM
Maximum RPM has been posted to usenet as a compiled help file (CHM) the site http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm was recursively downloaded using wget -m url FAR, by Helpware, was used to build the CHM (WinXP). GIMP (linux) was used to make the cover graphic. the NZB is here http://www.tlviewer.org/max-rpm.nzb To see which usenet group and grab with Pan, look inside the NZB. the command below can be used to fetch it perl nzbperl.pl max-rpm.nzb nzbperl is here http://noisybox.net/computers/nzbperl/ if you need a x86_64 package for uudeview go here http://www.tlviewer.org/c5repo/web This was a nice one-day project. ps Does anyone know how to compile a CHM on Linux? I know a few chm clients on linux, but nothing that can build a CHM. regards, - Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: packaging Bible posted to usenet as CHM
On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 17:31 -0700, mark pryor wrote: Maximum RPM has been posted to usenet as a compiled help file (CHM) the site http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm was recursively downloaded using wget -m url Wouldn't it have been easier to check it out via hg? -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams [EMAIL PROTECTED] PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Disk De-Fraging in Linux
Al Sparks wrote: A couple of questions. Are there any linux tools that can de-frag an ext2/3 partition? Are there any advantages to doing so if you're running hardware RAID5? Are there advantages / disadvantages if you're running LVM? === Al you're in luck cause you don't defrag an ext2/3 partition at all. defrag is for windows file systems. Ext file systems are a different animal all-together. Why? What's different between NTFS and ext2/3 that defragging is needed in one but not the other? === Al ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Disk De-Fraging in Linux
Al Sparks wrote: Al Sparks wrote: A couple of questions. Are there any linux tools that can de-frag an ext2/3 partition? ext2, yes. ext3, no. And it is called a filesystem. A partition is a completely different thing. none for ext3 because it was not really necessary for ext2 and so the tool never got updated. Are there any advantages to doing so if you're running hardware RAID5? Are there advantages / disadvantages if you're running LVM? === Al you're in luck cause you don't defrag an ext2/3 partition at all. defrag is for windows file systems. Ext file systems are a different animal all-together. Why? What's different between NTFS and ext2/3 that defragging is needed in one but not the other? Implementation and design? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Disk De-Fraging in Linux
On 9/20/07, Al Sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? What's different between NTFS and ext2/3 that defragging is needed in one but not the other? Mostly it has to do with the way information is ordered and written to the filesystem. The old FAT filesystem (and to a lesser extent NTFS) was sloppy, and needed some periodic cleanup. EXT2/3 are a bit more elegant in their design and structure the data such that a defrag isn't really necessary. The filesystem *will* check itself every 180 days or every so many reboots via fsck. This is configurable with tune2fs. That's basically the high level explanation for the differences. Once you start getting down into the really low level stuff, that's where I fall asleep no matter how much caffiene I've had. -- During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ata1 bootup errors
ata1: port is slow to respond, this delay is known to occur on vacant SATA ports ata1: port failed to respond (30 secs) ata1: SRST failed (status 0xFF) ata1: SRST failed (err_mask=0x100) ata1: softreset failed, retrying in 5 secs ata1: SRST failed (status 0xFF) ata1: SRST failed (err_mask=0x100) ata1: softreset failed, retrying in 5 secs ata1: SRST failed (status 0xFF) ata1: SRST failed (err_mask=0x100) ata1: reset failed, giving up Since I don't have SATA drives, I don't need this to be checked. How do I turn this off? Running CentOS 5.0 (just upgraded frm 4.x). Enable SMART on BIOS setup. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Chroot tool
Jordi Espasa Clofent wrote:
Hi,
Currently I'm working on building chroot environment for a several
users. The needs of those users are different, so the binaries and their
libraries are differents too. The building process tends to be so tedious.
I'm using a odd script to automatize the copy of needed libraries, but
it not works very fine.
¿Is there some tool to automatize the chroot jails creation/management?
¿Do you use some kind of shell-script?
I haven't used it myself, but
http://olivier.sessink.nl/jailkit/howtos_chroot_shell.html
is supposed to be pretty good.
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Re: [CentOS] running php4 and php5 parallel
Dear Salam, I have not used this thing yet, but i suppose not recommended, may be libraries confliction occur, some abnormal behaviour may arise. Regards, Umair Shakil ETD On 9/20/07, Peter Peltonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to run php4 and php5 parallel in Centos4 somehow? If the parallel php5 could be installed from rpm also that would be great also. Regards, Peter ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] xorg-x11
Dear Salam, Please install Xorg-deval package and xorg-depereciated package too. They are available in YUM repository. Regards, Umair Shakil ETD On 9/20/07, Barton Callender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:43:56 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] xorg-x11 On 9/19/07, Barton Callender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, Are there any xorg-x11-devel or xorg-server-devel rpm for centos 5? Yes and no. The packages for xorg have been renamed slightly (a change inherited from upstream) and the number of packages involved in the xorg suite has exploded. You probably want the xorg-x11-server-sdk package, though there are some others which you may also need. You can run the following command to see them all: yum list xorg-x11\* -- During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Hi, Thank-you for the response, I have xorg-x11-server-sdk package installed. I am trying to rebuild fluxbox source from kbs-Centos repos. I get this error message: - xorg-x11-devel is needed by fluxbox-0.9.13-1.i38 Thank-you -- Make your little one a shining star! Shine on!http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] running php4 and php5 parallel
Maybe if you custom build them from source giving each it's own directory using --prefix you can do it, but Umair might still be right about library conflicts. Not including the libraries and binaries in any paths might solve the problem and execution still could happen via a shell script for each to append the proper path before launch, but this is all just guessing. Geoff Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld. -Original Message- From: umair shakil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:26:25 To:CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] running php4 and php5 parallel Dear Salam, I have not used this thing yet, but i suppose not recommended, may be libraries confliction occur, some abnormal behaviour may arise. Regards, Umair Shakil ETD On 9/20/07, Peter Peltonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to run php4 and php5 parallel in Centos4 somehow? If the parallel php5 could be installed from rpm also that would be great also. Regards, Peter ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org mailto:CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] webmin
Salam, No man yum has no webmin available. webmin-1.360.tar.gz I installed this package Regards, Umair Shakil ETD On 9/20/07, Hiep Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi there, i just insalled centos 4.5 minimal, but want to use yum to install webmin? anybody know how?? i try: yum install webmin but not found. thanks, T. Hiep ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] iptables question
Dear Salam, Try to add following enteries in table. /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 20 -j ACCEPT /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -p udp --dport 20 -j ACCEPT /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 21 -j ACCEPT /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 21 -j ACCEPT Then use iptables -L command to show the enteries. Regards, Umair Shakil ETD On 9/20/07, Ray Leventhal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, With SELinux in permissive mode and iptables running, I'm unable to retrieve directory listings with ftp. stop iptables, and all appears again. This seems to be unrelated to passive/port modes for ftp client. If this is off topic, please let me know offlist and I'll take my question elsewhere. Otherwise I'll repost with output of # iptables status TIA, ~Ray ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Disk De-Fraging in Linux
Dear Salam, Well i have used the command on shell updatedb it will allow you to make fast searching. Regards, Umair Shakil ETD On 9/21/07, Al Sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A couple of questions. Are there any linux tools that can de-frag an ext2/3 partition? Are there any advantages to doing so if you're running hardware RAID5? Are there advantages / disadvantages if you're running LVM? === Al ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Migrating from ancient Fedora (was Fedora Core 5 EOL on 2007-06-29)
Johnny Hughes wrote:
Kenneth Porter wrote:
On Wednesday, June 27, 2007 9:02 PM -0700 Akemi Yagi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Ahem, I know this is a CentOS mailing list. BUT, as more and more
people migrate from FC to CentOS, I thought placing this reminder here
was worthwhile. [I am still running *cough* FC5 on my own desktop, so
I am also running out of time]
For those of us migrating from ancient versions of Fedora, what gotchas
might one expect?
[snip]
WRT SELinux ... these are your friends:
WRT SELinux, just disable it is my suggestion. Or perhaps
switch to another distro which is not yet infected.
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Re: [CentOS] running php4 and php5 parallel
Hi, Let us suppose, you have PHP4 RPM installation, PHP5 source installation. you type php -v you should get only one output like PHP5, The PHP Group, Let us start the apache, and put some php function in a file phpinfo() in index.php. you will get only PHP5(suppose). I am trying to explain that your output is one (PHP4 or PHP5). The question of running both in parallel seems to be difficult in this scenario. It also says when u will get to know that which version is now u running Regards, Umair Shakil ETD On 9/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe if you custom build them from source giving each it's own directory using --prefix you can do it, but Umair might still be right about library conflicts. Not including the libraries and binaries in any paths might solve the problem and execution still could happen via a shell script for each to append the proper path before launch, but this is all just guessing. Geoff Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld. -Original Message- From: umair shakil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:26:25 To:CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] running php4 and php5 parallel Dear Salam, I have not used this thing yet, but i suppose not recommended, may be libraries confliction occur, some abnormal behaviour may arise. Regards, Umair Shakil ETD On 9/20/07, Peter Peltonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to run php4 and php5 parallel in Centos4 somehow? If the parallel php5 could be installed from rpm also that would be great also. Regards, Peter ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org mailto:CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Disk De-Fraging in Linux
On Thursday 20 September 2007, Al Sparks wrote: Why? What's different between NTFS and ext2/3 that defragging is needed in one but not the other? === Al And this is the right question to ask... Anyway - the answer about defragging, if you really care to understand it, is pretty length. FAT used to be horrible. It would always simply take the first available cluster and use that to store data. This resulted in a lot of fragmentation. NTFS is much better already. It still profits from defragging but the results don't make that much of a difference anymore as long as your partition doesn't get close to being full. It tries to allocate contiguous blocks and will even add some buffer to the end for file growth. ext2/3 is similar to ntfs in its fragmentation resistance. It however, has 2 more advantages. First, linux uses swap devices and stuff like mmapped files are still movable. In windows, swap files and some other files are not movable. The second advantage is reserved space. By default, each ext2/3 filesystem has 5% of its space reserved for root. ext2/3 simply assume you will never get past 95% full - so the data is laid out accordingly. Since you know you have at least 5% free disk blocks, you can leave a little bit more unallocated space at the end of each file... Its not much but it adds up over time. The worst possible scenario I've found for ext3 so far is cvs. With every checkin, cvs has to modify the whole file. It does so by writing a completely new file, then deleting the old one and moving the new file in place. This means that each time, the filesystem has to allocate new space. For a long time, I balanced stuff between servers, removed outdated code and so on. bi-monthly fsck would show about 1-2% fragmentation at about 75% filesystem full. Then a few large projects were imported. filesystem usage went up to 98% (someone did a tune2fs -m 0) and then the problems really started. I'm just about to go home now - 2am. I spent the last few hours reorganizing the cvs filesystem. A filesystem check showed 61% fragmentation! I moved old code off to a secondary server, then coppied things off, recreated the filesystem and then copied the data back. Results were impressive - my I/O subsystem can take about 1800 io ops per second. The result before that, was about 1.1MB/sec throughput measured in iostat with a few cvs processes running at the same time. After the reorg... again 1800 ios - but my throughput rose to a more useful 24 MB/sec... Anyway - bullet points: * there is no good way to measure (on a filesystem level) fragmentation other than fsck * try filefrag to check for fragmentation on a per file basis. * there is no online ext2/3 defragger that works on block level * there is a offline defragger for ext2 on block level e2defrag. ext3 would have to be converted to ext2 and back to ext3 after the defrag. * there are some filelevel fragmentation tools. They basically work by copying files around. This works on filesystems that had high utilization for a while, got fragmented but are now mostly empty again. I tried some of that on my cvs server but none ended up giving me good results. * if fsck shows high fragmentation (5% in my opinions) you should make sure the filesystem doesn't get that full and if you really want to defrag, copy the data off and back on. Its the best way to do it. And now I'm off to bed. Peter. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
