RE: [CentOS] DVD reader: Hardware problem or OS glitch?

[John]

 
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On Sunday 27 April 2008 13:38:50 Lanny Marcus wrote:
> On 26 April 2008, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 16:57:25 +0100
> > From: Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [CentOS] DVD reader: Hardware problem or OS glitch?
> > To: CentOS mailing list 
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> > The support page for the Dell Dimension 4300 is dated 2001.  If 
> > that's the approximate age, it's quite possible that it doesn't read
DVDs.
> > My Packard Bell of similar age sometimes can read one, sometimes 
> > can't, but it's not really supposed to, I think.
>
> Anne: This is something that worked fine, for several years. It was my 
> box, before my daughter got it, and I used the DVD drive, without 
> problems. That it works OK in MS Windows XP and that I can boot the 
> box from the same DVD, without problems, has me leaning more toward a 
> problem with CentOS 5 Mounting the DVD, in that box. If it is a HW 
> problem, I would think the problem would also appear in Windows and 
> when I boot from that DVD. However, that it works OK, in 2 other 
> Desktops, would possibly indicate a HW problem in that box. TIA, Lanny
>
Hmm - do you have one of those disks with the micro-brushes that you use to
clean the lens of a DVD drive?  It could be nothing worse than that.  I
don't know what she used it for under XP, but if it was for reading
commercial disks they are undoubtably easier to read than home-burned ones,
and its possible that the linux driver is not as good either.  OTOH, it
could be something quite different :-)

Anne


Did you do a mount /dev/hdc /mnt/media?


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RE: [CentOS] DKMS

[John]

It was a Bounced message. 


John

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Kai Schaetzl wrote on Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:31:14 +0200:

> John wrote on Sat, 05 Apr 2008 16:52:03 -0400:

Hm, just to clarify, I don't know where this message came from, I wrote it
weeks ago. It must have been on hold and accidently released much too late.
Obviously, it doesn't make sense to add such a comment to an old thread
three weeks later.

Kai

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Re: [CentOS] dmidecode for CentOS 2.1? [hardware serial number and type]

[John Newbigin]

rpm -qf /usr/sbin/dmidecode
kernel-utils-2.4-6.1.EL

CentOS 2 is not dead yet.

dmidecode does exist and should work fine.

John.

Simon Jolle wrote:

Hi CentOS users

I have here old CentOS 2.1 server on IBM Xseries 336. How to see
serial number and machine type?

It seems that "dmidecode" is not available for CentOS 2.1

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Re: [CentOS] kernel-vm repo

[Clint Dilks]

Akemi Yagi wrote:

On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Clint Dilks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Hi People,

 I have downloaded
http://dev.centos.org/~tru/kernel-vm/5/RPMS/i386/kernel-vm-2.6.18-53.1.14.el5.i686.rpm

but was just wondering if these kernel-vm rpms are in a yum repository.
Previous posts to centos.org suggest this, so can someone please let me know
what repo it should be coming from so I can see why my system doesn't see
them.



There is no repository for them.  Please also note that these kernels
are under testing although there have been no known issues so far.
But you need to install manually.

Akemi
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Thanks for the response, have a good day :)

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Re: [CentOS] kernel-vm repo

[Akemi Yagi]

On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Clint Dilks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi People,
>
>  I have downloaded
> http://dev.centos.org/~tru/kernel-vm/5/RPMS/i386/kernel-vm-2.6.18-53.1.14.el5.i686.rpm
> 
> but was just wondering if these kernel-vm rpms are in a yum repository.
> Previous posts to centos.org suggest this, so can someone please let me know
> what repo it should be coming from so I can see why my system doesn't see
> them.

There is no repository for them.  Please also note that these kernels
are under testing although there have been no known issues so far.
But you need to install manually.

Akemi
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[CentOS] kernel-vm repo

[Clint Dilks]

Hi People,

I have downloaded 
http://dev.centos.org/~tru/kernel-vm/5/RPMS/i386/kernel-vm-2.6.18-53.1.14.el5.i686.rpm 
 
but was just wondering if these kernel-vm rpms are in a yum repository.  
Previous posts to centos.org suggest this, so can someone please let me 
know what repo it should be coming from so I can see why my system 
doesn't see them. 


Thanks.

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Re: [CentOS] f/oss routing solution?

[Ramon Nieto]

Try quagga (www.quagga.net), it is based on zebra, as you can see on the site the last version was released 9/2007, the last version of zebra it's from 9/2005.Check this url  http://www.openmaniak.com/quagga.php it is a good tutorial.--- El dom 27-abr-08, Rogelio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:De:: Rogelio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Asunto: [CentOS] f/oss routing solution?A: "CentOS mailing list" Fecha: domingo, 27 abril, 2008, 12:23 pmI'm looking for an open source router solution, and someone from the list recently recommended zebra (www.zebra.org). I haven't yet identified all my needs, but
 I'm guessing that it will do all my routing needs for a, say, class C set of IP addresses, particularly if I ever have to do anything BGP-related.

 
Anyone have any pointers before I delve in?  Or possibly a recommendation for another open source routing solution?  Yeah, I know about Cisco stuff, but I'm hoping to limp along on a shoestring budget until I get a few more things in place, then I'll rethink everything.
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Re: [CentOS] f/oss routing solution?

[Max Hetrick]

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> You might also want to look at http://www.vyatta.org/ They seem to
> have a nice solution although i have not tried it.

My company just replaced a Cisco PIX firewall appliance with some IBM
hardware running Vyatta. We've gained some performance in our firewall
and router and are much happier.

You can run the community download which is a release or two behind the
main project, or you can purchase a Vyatta subscription which gives you
support and the latest and greatest.

My company has been extremely happy with Vyatta and their support is superb.

Regards,
Max

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Re: [CentOS] DKMS

[Ned Slider]

Akemi Yagi wrote:

On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Ned Slider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


It's easy
to forget there is now a whole generation of computer users who have known
nothing but the GUI and completely missed out on DOS or CP/M, and never
owned a Spectrum/Commodore/BBC Micro etc.


Wow, Ned, I never thought you were old enough to remember any of
those.  And this kind of statement usually triggers a long thread
because of the people who want to prove they are the oldest and the
wisest.   However, no such competition works out in the CentOS
community -- because no one can beat orc_orc (Russ Herrold).

Famous quote: "He is older than all of us combined" (by z00dax)

Akemi


/OT

LOL @ the quote!

I particularly liked the way you used "Ned" and "wisest" in the same 
paragraph, but you may need to work on the context :D


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Re: [CentOS] DKMS

[Akemi Yagi]

On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Ned Slider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It's easy
> to forget there is now a whole generation of computer users who have known
> nothing but the GUI and completely missed out on DOS or CP/M, and never
> owned a Spectrum/Commodore/BBC Micro etc.

Wow, Ned, I never thought you were old enough to remember any of
those.  And this kind of statement usually triggers a long thread
because of the people who want to prove they are the oldest and the
wisest.   However, no such competition works out in the CentOS
community -- because no one can beat orc_orc (Russ Herrold).

Famous quote: "He is older than all of us combined" (by z00dax)

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS] DKMS

[Kai Schaetzl]

Kai Schaetzl wrote on Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:31:14 +0200:

> John wrote on Sat, 05 Apr 2008 16:52:03 -0400:

Hm, just to clarify, I don't know where this message came from, I wrote it 
weeks ago. It must have been on hold and accidently released much too 
late. Obviously, it doesn't make sense to add such a comment to an old 
thread three weeks later.

Kai

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Re: [CentOS] f/oss routing solution?

[Finnur Örn Guðmundsson]

> I'm looking for an open source router solution, and someone from the list
> recently recommended zebra (www.zebra.org). I haven't yet identified all
> my
> needs, but I'm guessing that it will do all my routing needs for a, say,
> class C set of IP addresses, particularly if I ever have to do anything
> BGP-related.
>
> Anyone have any pointers before I delve in?  Or possibly a recommendation
> for another open source routing solution?  Yeah, I know about Cisco stuff,
> but I'm hoping to limp along on a shoestring budget until I get a few more
> things in place, then I'll rethink everything.
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You might also want to look at http://www.vyatta.org/ They seem to
have a nice solution although i have not tried it.

Bgrds,
Finnur
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[CentOS] f/oss routing solution?

[Rogelio]

I'm looking for an open source router solution, and someone from the list
recently recommended zebra (www.zebra.org). I haven't yet identified all my
needs, but I'm guessing that it will do all my routing needs for a, say,
class C set of IP addresses, particularly if I ever have to do anything
BGP-related.

Anyone have any pointers before I delve in?  Or possibly a recommendation
for another open source routing solution?  Yeah, I know about Cisco stuff,
but I'm hoping to limp along on a shoestring budget until I get a few more
things in place, then I'll rethink everything.
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Re: [CentOS] DKMS

[Ned Slider]

Robert Becker Cope wrote:

Kai Schaetzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


CentOS is *not* for users new to Linux or Unix-like operatings
systems. It isn't. Full stop.


Hopefully what you mean is that it isn't designed specifically for users that
are new to Linux. It is a perfectly fine distribution for those wanting to
learn Linux, though the learning curve may be a bit steep.

Is there any distro designed to train new Linux users?

robert



I think that depends on what the new user wants or expects from Linux. 
Sure there are distro's that attempt to hide or eliminate the exposure 
of new users to the command line, or choose to install 3rd party (non 
GPL/OS) stuff by default, or at least make it easy to do so from 
preconfigured repos.


Many (desktop) users converting from that other popular OS seem to 
expect things like multimedia support, 3rd party drivers, wireless etc 
to work out of the box by default, or at least be easy to install 
without having to resort to foreign commands on the command line (they 
easily forget none of these things worked on their previous OS out of 
the box!). Those users don't see the power of the command line and see 
it as a backwards step. It's easy to forget there is now a whole 
generation of computer users who have known nothing but the GUI and 
completely missed out on DOS or CP/M, and never owned a 
Spectrum/Commodore/BBC Micro etc.



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Re: [CentOS] DVD reader: Hardware problem or OS glitch?

[Anne Wilson]

On Sunday 27 April 2008 13:38:50 Lanny Marcus wrote:
> On 26 April 2008, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 16:57:25 +0100
> > From: Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [CentOS] DVD reader: Hardware problem or OS glitch?
> > To: CentOS mailing list 
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> > The support page for the Dell Dimension 4300 is dated 2001.  If that's
> > the approximate age, it's quite possible that it doesn't read DVDs.
> > My Packard Bell of similar age sometimes can read one, sometimes
> > can't, but it's not really supposed to, I think.
>
> Anne: This is something that worked fine, for several years. It was my
> box, before my daughter got it, and I used the DVD drive, without
> problems. That it works OK in MS Windows XP and that I can boot the box
> from the same DVD, without problems, has me leaning more toward a
> problem with CentOS 5 Mounting the DVD, in that box. If it is a HW
> problem, I would think the problem would also appear in Windows and when
> I boot from that DVD. However, that it works OK, in 2 other Desktops,
> would possibly indicate a HW problem in that box. TIA, Lanny
>
Hmm - do you have one of those disks with the micro-brushes that you use to 
clean the lens of a DVD drive?  It could be nothing worse than that.  I don't 
know what she used it for under XP, but if it was for reading commercial 
disks they are undoubtably easier to read than home-burned ones, and its 
possible that the linux driver is not as good either.  OTOH, it could be 
something quite different :-)

Anne

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RE: [CentOS] DKMS

[John]

 
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Kai Schaetzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> CentOS is *not* for users new to Linux or Unix-like operatings 
> systems. It isn't. Full stop.

Hopefully what you mean is that it isn't designed specifically for users
that are new to Linux. It is a perfectly fine distribution for those wanting
to learn Linux, though the learning curve may be a bit steep.

Is there any distro designed to train new Linux users?

Robert

No there is none in my opinion.

CentOS Like RHEL is realy a network operating system. Thus, supporting
server applications mainly. IMHP, I would recommend a new user to it. Why?
Because it is a top notch Enterprise OS on the Desktop and Server.

I believe with the right education, teaching and awareness the user has
endless options unlike with a Microsoft OS. All of that depends on how the
community responds to helping and providing help, which is slowly evolving.
Your going to see a lot more "New Users" at the End of Life for Windows XP.
I realy do not think people want to fork out 300 - 400 dollars for
Vista...


John
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Re: [CentOS] DVD reader: Hardware problem or OS glitch?

[D Steward]

On Sat, 2008-04-26 at 16:57 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
> ... it's quite possible that it doesn't read DVDs.  My Packard 
> Bell of similar age sometimes can read one, sometimes can't, but it's not 
> really supposed to, I think.

It will depend upon the DVD drive and the type of DVD.
Many DVD-Rom drives of that vintage were not able to read DVD-RW discs,
nor discs of type DVD+R etc.

But this is not the OP's problem, since he said a Windows installation
on that same computer could read the DVD fine.

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RE: [CentOS] DKMS

[Robert Becker Cope]

Kai Schaetzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> CentOS is *not* for users new to Linux or Unix-like operatings
> systems. It isn't. Full stop.

Hopefully what you mean is that it isn't designed specifically for users that
are new to Linux. It is a perfectly fine distribution for those wanting to
learn Linux, though the learning curve may be a bit steep.

Is there any distro designed to train new Linux users?

robert

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Re: [CentOS] DVD reader: Hardware problem or OS glitch?

[Lanny Marcus]

On 26 April 2008, Anne Wilson wrote:
> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 16:57:25 +0100
> From: Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] DVD reader: Hardware problem or OS glitch?
> To: CentOS mailing list 
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> The support page for the Dell Dimension 4300 is dated 2001.  If that's
> the approximate age, it's quite possible that it doesn't read DVDs.
> My Packard Bell of similar age sometimes can read one, sometimes
> can't, but it's not really supposed to, I think.

Anne: This is something that worked fine, for several years. It was my
box, before my daughter got it, and I used the DVD drive, without
problems. That it works OK in MS Windows XP and that I can boot the box
from the same DVD, without problems, has me leaning more toward a
problem with CentOS 5 Mounting the DVD, in that box. If it is a HW
problem, I would think the problem would also appear in Windows and when
I boot from that DVD. However, that it works OK, in 2 other Desktops,
would possibly indicate a HW problem in that box. TIA, Lanny

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Re: [CentOS] DKMS

[Kai Schaetzl]

John wrote on Sat, 05 Apr 2008 16:52:03 -0400:

> But 75% don't know how to. All they know is they downloaded the cds.
> Took them a week to figure out how to make a bootable install disk. Then
> finally 24 hours to install the OS. Six hours to get on the Internet.
> Another 5 hours to setup email.

CentOS is *not* for users new to Linux or Unix-like operatings systems. It 
isn't. Full stop.

Kai

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