Re: [CentOS] Boot disk changes from /dev/sda during install to /dev/sdb on first boot

[Jeff Larsen]

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:51 AM, Joseph L. Casale
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >It's been suggested (in the Dell Linux mailing list) that it is
>  >related to the virtual CD device of the DRAC.
>
>  As far as I know, it is. I recall something about it emulating a
>  usb drive so it could be hot plugged with a new "disc" if you will.
>
>
>  >But why would it change after install? Is it perhaps a difference in 
> drivers that are
>  >available in the installer vs. the live kernel?
>
>  How did you install out of curiosity?

DRAC Virtual CD (full CentOS disk 1 of 4) in one instance, Virtual CD
with http install in another.

>
>
>  >How can I find out what /dev/sda is? Any way to force the drive order
>  >from the CentOS side? No relevant options that I have found in BIOS or
>  >RAID setup.
>
>  What info do you get when you cat some of the /sys/block/sd{a b}/ files 
> after its booted?

removable = 1, size = 0 among others.

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RE: [CentOS] Boot disk changes from /dev/sda during install to /dev/sdb on first boot

[Joseph L. Casale]

>It's been suggested (in the Dell Linux mailing list) that it is
>related to the virtual CD device of the DRAC.

As far as I know, it is. I recall something about it emulating a
usb drive so it could be hot plugged with a new "disc" if you will.

>But why would it change after install? Is it perhaps a difference in drivers 
>that are
>available in the installer vs. the live kernel?

How did you install out of curiosity?

>How can I find out what /dev/sda is? Any way to force the drive order
>from the CentOS side? No relevant options that I have found in BIOS or
>RAID setup.

What info do you get when you cat some of the /sys/block/sd{a b}/ files after 
its booted?

jlc
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[CentOS] Boot disk changes from /dev/sda during install to /dev/sdb on first boot

[Jeff Larsen]

CentOS 4.6 x86_64, Dell PE2950 with DRAC5, onboard SAS RAID 1, 2 arrays.

After booting installed system, /dev/sda exists but does not appear to
be a hard disk. fdisk -l displays nothing for sda. CentOS is on
/dev/sdb and the second RAID 1 array is now /dev/sdc.

It's been suggested (in the Dell Linux mailing list) that it is
related to the virtual CD device of the DRAC. But why would it change
after install? Is it perhaps a difference in drivers that are
available in the installer vs. the live kernel?

How can I find out what /dev/sda is? Any way to force the drive order
from the CentOS side? No relevant options that I have found in BIOS or
RAID setup.

bash-3.00# ls -l /dev/sd*
brw-rw  1 root disk 8,  0 Apr 29 05:15 /dev/sda
brw-rw  1 root disk 8, 16 Apr 29 05:15 /dev/sdb
brw-rw  1 root disk 8, 17 Apr 29 05:15 /dev/sdb1
brw-rw  1 root disk 8, 18 Apr 29 05:15 /dev/sdb2
brw-rw  1 root disk 8, 19 Apr 29 05:15 /dev/sdb3
brw-rw  1 root disk 8, 32 Apr 29 05:15 /dev/sdc

/dev/cdrom points at /dev/hda

mount /dev/sda /mnt yeilds 'No medium found'

When virtual CD media is connected via DRAC, it is found at
/dev/cdrom1 which links to /dev/scd0

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[CentOS] No module named snack

[Matt Morgan]

Hi everyone--I'm back on the list after some time not managing any Centos
machines. It's good to be back.

I'm trying to switch a server from sendmail to postfix. It's Centos 4.6. I
installed postfix and system-switch-mail. When I run system-switch-mail, I
get

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/sbin/system-switch-mail", line 89, in 
main()
  File "/usr/sbin/system-switch-mail", line 76, in main
from switchmail_tui import mainDialog
  File "/usr/share/system-switch-mail/switchmail_tui.py", line 36, in

from snack import *
ImportError: No module named snack

"Snack" appears to be a python module provided by a package called newt,
which is installed:

# rpm -qf /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/snack.py
newt-0.51.6-9.rhel4

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks a lot,
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Re: [CentOS] kickstart question

[Ben]

Jerry Geis wrote:

I have a couple lines like:

part / --ondisk=sda --fstype ext3 --size=2 --asprimary
part swap  --ondisk=sda   --size=4000  --asprimary
part /home --ondisk=sda --fstype ext3 --size=1 --asprimary --grow

in my kickstart file.

Is there a way to have 1 kickstart file that works for hda and sda 
both???


So I would like to have 1 kickstart file that works for either a hda 
install or sda install.

Thanks,
Jerry

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Jerry,

see the attached example of my partitioning %pre script i use for all my 
builds.


hope it helps.

Ben
%include /tmp/part-include

%pre

#!/bin/bash

set $(list-harddrives)

#$1 = 1st disk name
#$2 = 1st disk size
#$3 = 2nd disk name
#$4 = 2nd disk size
#so on

let numhd=$#/2

drive1=$1
drive2=$3

# calculate swap
mem=$(grep MemTotal /proc/meminfo | awk '{print $2}')
swap=$(( $mem / 1000 * 2 ))

#Write out partition scheme based on whether there are 1 or 2 hard drives

if [ $numhd == "2" ] ; then
#2 drives
echo "# partitioning scheme generated in %pre for 2 drives" 
> /tmp/part-include
echo "bootloader --location=mbr --driveorder=$drive1,$drive2"   
>> /tmp/part-include
echo "clearpart --all --initlabel"  
>> /tmp/part-include
echo "part raid.11 --size=100 --ondisk=$drive1" 
>> /tmp/part-include
echo "part raid.21 --size=100 --ondisk=$drive2" 
>> /tmp/part-include
echo "part raid.13 --size=100 --ondisk=$drive1 --grow"  
>> /tmp/part-include
echo "part raid.23 --size=100 --ondisk=$drive2 --grow"  
>> /tmp/part-include

echo "raid /boot --fstype ext3 --level=RAID1 --device=md0 raid.11 
raid.21"  >> /tmp/part-include
echo "raid pv.01 --level=RAID1 --device=md2 raid.13 raid.23"
>> /tmp/part-include

echo "volgroup vg0 pv.01"   
>> /tmp/part-include

echo "logvol swap --fstype swap --name=swap --vgname=vg0 --size=$swap"  
 >> /tmp/part-include
echo "logvol / --fstype ext3 --name=root --vgname=vg0 --size=300 
--grow">> /tmp/part-include
else
#1 drive
echo "# partitioning scheme generated in %pre for 1 drives" 
> /tmp/part-include
echo "bootloader --location=mbr --driveorder=$drive1"   
>> /tmp/part-include
echo "clearpart --all --initlabel"  
>> /tmp/part-include
echo "part /boot --fstype ext3 --size=100   --ondisk=$drive1"   
>> /tmp/part-include
echo "part swap  --fstype ext3 --size=$swap --ondisk=$drive1"   
>> /tmp/part-include
echo "part / --fstype ext3 --size=300   --ondisk=$drive1  --grow"   
>> /tmp/part-include
fi

[ -f /tmp/part-include ] || touch /tmp/part-include
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RE: [CentOS] Turning off Win2008 machines from a CentOS box

[Joseph L. Casale]

>I haven't tested this, but in theory...
>
>$ net rpc shutdown -U Administrator -S servername

That worked perfectly and simplified my procedure greatly!
Thanks,
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[CentOS] X just died then restarted

[fred smith]

Just had a weird thing happen that I've never encountered before.

Running Centos 5.x (updated) on 32-bit (Athlon XP).

Was going along in Firefox when suddenly my screen went black and the hard
drive light came on mostly steady for several seconds. After a little bit
I got back the X login screen. It normally comes up on F7, but F7 was dead
(with some text I'll paste in below in case it means anything to someone)
and (since I have another dedicated app on F8) it came up on F9.

The last few entries in /var/log/messages, which are about the right
time, are:

Apr 30 18:34:44 hostname restorecond: Will not restore a file with more than 
one hard link (/etc/resolv.conf) No such file or directory 
Apr 30 18:34:52 hostname kernel: NVRM: not using NVAGP, an AGPGART backend is 
loaded!
Apr 30 18:35:10 hostname gconfd (username-32302): GConf server is not in use, 
shutting down.
Apr 30 18:35:10 hostname gconfd (username-32302): Exiting
Apr 30 18:36:59 hostname restorecond: Will not restore a file with more than 
one hard link (/etc/resolv.conf) No such file or directory 
Apr 30 18:37:22 hostname gconfd (username-8990): starting (version 2.14.0), pid 
8990 user 'username'
Apr 30 18:37:22 hostname gconfd (username-8990): Resolved address 
"xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory" to a read-only configuration 
source at position 0
Apr 30 18:37:22 hostname gconfd (username-8990): Resolved address 
"xml:readwrite:/home/username/.gconf" to a writable configuration source at 
position 1
Apr 30 18:37:22 hostname gconfd (username-8990): Resolved address 
"xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults" to a read-only configuration 
source at position 2
Apr 30 18:37:27 hostname pcscd: winscard.c:219:SCardConnect() Reader E-Gate 0 0 
Not Found
Apr 30 18:37:27 hostname last message repeated 4 times
Apr 30 18:37:30 hostname gconfd (username-8990): Resolved address 
"xml:readwrite:/home/username/.gconf" to a writable configuration source at 
position 0


and the stuff on the F7 screen is (hard to read and surely incomplete):


 b7913000-b7a52000 rw-p b7913000 00:00 0
 b7a52000-b7a7c000 rw-s 
 00:08 192315392  /SYSV (deleted)
 b7a7c000-b7abc000 rw-s d3f9 
00:10 6900   /dev/nvidia0
  b7abc000-b7ac rw-s d050 00:10 6900   
/dev/nvidia0
   b7ac-b7fc rw-s d000 00:10 6900   /dev/nvidia0

b7fc-b7fd rw-s e480 00:10 6900   /dev/nvidia0
 b7fd-b7fd4000 rw-p 
b7fd 00:00 0
 b7fd4000-b7fd5000 rw-s e4682000 00:10 6900   /dev/nvidia0
  
b7fd5000-b7fd6000 rw-s e468 00:10 6900   /dev/nvidia0
   b7fd6000-b7fde000 rw-s 
240bb000 00:10 6900   /dev/nvidia0
b7fde000-b7fdf000 rw-s 1dc43000 00:10 6900
 /dev/nvidia0
 b7fdf000-b7fef000 rw-s 2473 00:10 6900   /dev/nvidia0
  
bf864000-bf87f000 rwxp bf864000 00:00 0  [stack]
  bf87f000-bf881000 rw-p 
bf87f000 00:00 0


So since the stuff from /var/log/messages mentions agpgart and this
stuff from F7 mentions /dev/nvidia, I'm guessing the nvidia drivers had
some kind of brain fart (:) ??

FWIW, I'm running the Nvidia 96.43.01 drivers, direct from Nvidia
and not any repository. 

Any ideas?

Thanks!

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Re: [CentOS] determining correct size for LV copy operations

[John R Pierce]

Kai Schaetzl wrote:

I have some problems with copying LV volumes and determining correct size.
For instance, if I want to copy an LV from one machine to another. I dd 
the LV to a file on the other machine, then dd the file to the new LV.

That fails, because a few MB are missing.
  



I'd probably use dump ... | restore ...   to copy it, assuming its an 
e2fs/e3fs on that logical volume.   then the volume sizes are immaterial.





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[CentOS] determining correct size for LV copy operations

[Kai Schaetzl]

I have some problems with copying LV volumes and determining correct size.
For instance, if I want to copy an LV from one machine to another. I dd 
the LV to a file on the other machine, then dd the file to the new LV.
That fails, because a few MB are missing.

source:
  LV Name/dev/VolGroup01/LogVol01
  LV Size4.62 GB

target:
  LV Name/dev/xenvm/lvmtest1
  LV Size4.62 GB

Both were created with lvcreate -L 4.62GB, but there's obviously a small 
rounding or whatever difference. The size of the physical extents seems to 
be different.

I can determine the size of the output file
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 4966055936 Apr 30 21:19 lvmtest1.img

That is 4849664K which is the smallest size unit that lvcreate accepts.
lvcreate -L 4849664K --name lvmtest1 xenvm - and then it fits.
But I hope there's a better way to determine the *exact* size?

Kai

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Re: [CentOS] Re: kickstart question

[Joshua Baker-LePain]

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 at 4:30pm, Jerry Geis wrote



/ I have a couple lines like:
/>/
/>/ part / --ondisk=sda --fstype ext3 --size=2 --asprimary
/>/ part swap  --ondisk=sda   --size=4000  --asprimary
/>/ part /home --ondisk=sda --fstype ext3 --size=1 --asprimary --grow
/>/
/>/ in my kickstart file.
/>/
/>/ Is there a way to have 1 kickstart file that works for hda and sda 
both???

/
If you only expect to have 1 drive in the systems you're installing, you 
can just leave off the "--ondisk=".




Thanks, what do I do when I am installing RAID with 2 disks then.


AFAIK, there you're stuck with calling the disks by hda/sda.

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[CentOS] Re: kickstart question

[Jerry Geis]

/ I have a couple lines like:
/>/
/>/ part / --ondisk=sda --fstype ext3 --size=2 --asprimary
/>/ part swap  --ondisk=sda   --size=4000  --asprimary
/>/ part /home --ondisk=sda --fstype ext3 --size=1 --asprimary --grow
/>/
/>/ in my kickstart file.
/>/
/>/ Is there a way to have 1 kickstart file that works for hda and sda both???
/
If you only expect to have 1 drive in the systems you're installing, you 
can just leave off the "--ondisk=".


  

Thanks, what do I do when I am installing RAID with 2 disks then.

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Re: [CentOS] kickstart question

[Joshua Baker-LePain]

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 at 2:46pm, Jerry Geis wrote


I have a couple lines like:

part / --ondisk=sda --fstype ext3 --size=2 --asprimary
part swap  --ondisk=sda   --size=4000  --asprimary
part /home --ondisk=sda --fstype ext3 --size=1 --asprimary --grow

in my kickstart file.

Is there a way to have 1 kickstart file that works for hda and sda both???


If you only expect to have 1 drive in the systems you're installing, you 
can just leave off the "--ondisk=".


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RE: [CentOS] DVD reader: Hardware problem or OS glitch?

[Lanny Marcus]

On 29 April 2008, "John"  wrote
>Message: 42
> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:43:43 -0400
 > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 >Well I seen a few post back today but can't tell from heads ot tails what's
 >what of it.
 > I seen where there was "Dell" in the command prompt machine name??

Yes. Dell Dimension 4300. My box is a Dell Dimension 2400.

 >By any chance is any type of Dell Virtual Media Drive Software installed on
 >the machine if it's a dell machine? It's a longshot guess if it is a dell it
 >may be causing you problems.

No. That's not installed. I wiped the hard drives last Thanksgiving
and probably that wasn't the first time, after receiving the machines.

 >Also please post you fstab and mtab files. It may be helpful in pointing out
> the problem. Also have you run yum update on the machine?

fstab:

/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 /   ext3defaults1 1
LABEL=/boot /boot   ext3defaults1 2
devpts  /dev/ptsdevpts  gid=5,mode=620  0 0
tmpfs   /dev/shmtmpfs   defaults0 0
proc/proc   procdefaults0 0
sysfs   /syssysfs   defaults0 0
/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01 swapswapdefaults0 0


mtab:

/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 / ext3 rw 0 0
proc /proc proc rw 0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0 0
/dev/hda3 /boot ext3 rw 0 0
tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0
none /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc rw 0 0

John: As I posted about one hour ago, today I moved the Teac DV-516D
DVD/CD reader to my box. Exactly the same problem there. I'm not sure
if the drive is sick (I think it is OK, but I will try, ASAP, to find
TEAC Diagnostics for it and run that) or if it is something in the
Kernel or elsewhere in CentOS 5 that does not support the Teac drive.

I have not run YUM update to update everything. Possibly I will do
that tonight and let it go all night.

Thank you! Lanny
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Re: [CentOS] DVD reader: Hardware problem or OS glitch?

[Lanny Marcus]

On 29 April 2008, "Alan Bartlett"  wrote:
> Message: 38
> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:18:00 +0100
> From: "Alan Bartlett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] DVD reader: Hardware problem or OS glitch?
> Message-ID:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Lanny or Bill - Sorry I'm loosing track. One of you has three boxes;
> in boxes #1 & #2 the drives behaves as you want, in box #3 the drive
> misbehaves. Have you tried the test of swapping the drives in - say -
> boxes #2 & #3 and seeing if the problem moves with the optical drive
> or stays with box, #3?

Alan: Today, I removed the Teac DV-516D DVD/CD reader, manufactured
October 2004, in Japan, from my daughters box. I temporarily hooked it
up in my box. The exact same problem! I could not see the contents of a
DVD-R, but, I was able to see the contents of my Knoppix Live CD,
without any problem. So, I did not bother with the PITA of removing the
DVD/CD reader from my box, and trying that one in my daughters box.

I booted my daughters box with my Knoppix Live CD V. 5.1.1 and it also
showed the FC6 Install DVD to be blank.

I suspect:

(a) The Teac DV-516D DVD/CD reader is not supported in this kernel or
somewhere else in CentOS 5.or

(b) The DVD/CD reader is somewhat faulty.

(c) However, Windows XP shows it to be "OK" and I can see the contents
of the FC6 install DVD OK, in Windoze. Also, I can boot from the CentOS5
and FC6 Install DVD's, without any problem. And, I was able to mount the
FC6 Install DVD, in a terminal and install the RPM I wanted to install,
without any problems. Thank you, very much, for your time and ideas!
Lanny

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[CentOS] kickstart question

[Jerry Geis]

I have a couple lines like:

part / --ondisk=sda --fstype ext3 --size=2 --asprimary
part swap  --ondisk=sda   --size=4000  --asprimary
part /home --ondisk=sda --fstype ext3 --size=1 --asprimary --grow

in my kickstart file.

Is there a way to have 1 kickstart file that works for hda and sda both???

So I would like to have 1 kickstart file that works for either a hda 
install or sda install.

Thanks,
Jerry

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Re: [CentOS] Turning off Win2008 machines from a CentOS box

[Toby Bluhm]

Joseph L. Casale wrote:

I understand this may be able to be done with Samba?
Anyone know the syntax for a CentOS 5.1 Samba client
and what needs to be done to Windows 2008 Server to
allow this (I suspect out of the box it wouldn't allow it)?

I was hoping to use SSH with keys and script the login
and execution of the native win shutdown command, but
I have had troubles making any of the usual win SSH
Daemons work under Windows 2008 Server x64.

  



winexe opens a command prompt on XP boxes. You can script the shutdown - 
have no idea if it'll work on 2008:


winexe -A $accountname //$computername "cmd /c shutdown -s -t 60"

and down it goes.


http://eol.ovh.org/winexe/


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Re: [CentOS] problem installation of mplayer

[Ned Slider]

MHR wrote:

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 5:02 AM, Ralph Angenendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Mamun wrote:

Guys,
I already installed CentOs,but can anyone give a sample of repo files and 
priorities.conf file.

As for this 2 files i am unable to install mplayer.

See 

mplayer is in rpmforge and atrpms (watch out when mixing those,
use priorities).



I've had excellent results on CentOS with rpmforge, and highly
recommend it.  (I haven't tried atrpms.)



Same here - mplayer from RPMForge works great for me.

Regards,

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Re: [CentOS] Turning off Win2008 machines from a CentOS box

[John R Pierce]

Joseph L. Casale wrote:

I understand this may be able to be done with Samba?
Anyone know the syntax for a CentOS 5.1 Samba client
and what needs to be done to Windows 2008 Server to
allow this (I suspect out of the box it wouldn't allow it)?
  


I haven't tested this, but in theory...

   $ net rpc shutdown -U Administrator -S servername

and it will prompt for the Administrator account password.  
Administrator can be replaced with any windows account that has admin 
privs on the target server.If its in a domain, presumably you could 
use DOMAINNAME\\domainuser as the username, where that domainuser has 
admin privs on the server.


this assumes you're on the same network and not firewalled against basic 
RPC type operations, this would be the case in the typical business 
network, but NOT if the machine is hardened and running as an internet 
server or in a DMZ.

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Re: [CentOS] problem installation of mplayer

[MHR]

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 5:02 AM, Ralph Angenendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Mamun wrote:
> > Guys,
> > I already installed CentOs,but can anyone give a sample of repo files and 
> > priorities.conf file.
> >
> > As for this 2 files i am unable to install mplayer.
>
> See 
>
> mplayer is in rpmforge and atrpms (watch out when mixing those,
> use priorities).
>

I've had excellent results on CentOS with rpmforge, and highly
recommend it.  (I haven't tried atrpms.)

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Re: [CentOS] dmidecode for CentOS 2.1? [hardware serial number and type]

[Simon Jolle sjolle]

On 04/28/2008 02:23 AM, John Newbigin wrote:
> rpm -qf /usr/sbin/dmidecode
> kernel-utils-2.4-6.1.EL

Thank you

> CentOS 2 is not dead yet. 
> dmidecode does exist and should work fine.

> John.

cheers
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[CentOS] Turning off Win2008 machines from a CentOS box

[Joseph L. Casale]

I understand this may be able to be done with Samba?
Anyone know the syntax for a CentOS 5.1 Samba client
and what needs to be done to Windows 2008 Server to
allow this (I suspect out of the box it wouldn't allow it)?

I was hoping to use SSH with keys and script the login
and execution of the native win shutdown command, but
I have had troubles making any of the usual win SSH
Daemons work under Windows 2008 Server x64.

Any ideas would be appreciated!
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[CentOS] Re: OFF-TOPIC: Job opportunity in Augusta Georgia

[Scott Silva]

on 4-30-2008 7:08 AM Jim Perrin spake the following:

WAY Off topic here, but if anyone's in the Augusta, Georgia area and
wants to work as a web developer(css, html, flash, php, photoshop and
the other usual goodies), we've got a job opening.

If you like abuse, long hours, low pay, and lots of stress, we have
the perfect job for you.


I'm married so I already have all of those "fine" benefits!!



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Re: [CentOS] Re: case insensitive file system

[Kevin Krieser]

I can't think of anything I did special other than using force because  
I hadn't done a Safely Remove device on Windows last time.


I plan to try some experimentation again.

I had previously successfully copied many gigabytes of files from an  
NTFS USB hard drive during the same boot without issues.


On Apr 30, 2008, at 12:07 PM, Szabolcs Szakacsits wrote:



Hi Kevin,

Kevin Krieser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

I just tried NTFS-3G on a thumbdrive, and I was able to create a file
that differed only by case from another.  Then something got  
corrupted.


Could you please elaborate what you did and what kind of corruption  
happened?


We are doing very exhaustive testing (http://ntfs-3g.org/ 
quality.html) before
all public driver releases and we're not aware of any corruption  
problem, nor we

have been reported using the latest driver, version 1.2412.

The only issue I can imagine is if the thumbdrive wasn't properly  
unmounted

before removal. This can cause I/O errors like described at
http://ntfs-3g.org/support.html#ioerror

NTFS is case preserving and case sensitive in the NTFS POSIX  
filename space what
NTFS-3G uses. This may confuse some Windows applications but  
unfortunately there
isn't anything we could do about it, because exactly the same thing  
happen when
one uses the Microsoft NTFS driver to do the same. No difference.  
More at

http://ntfs-3g.org/support.html#posixfilenames1

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[CentOS] Re: case insensitive file system

[Scott Silva]

on 4-30-2008 7:07 AM Ruslan Sivak spake the following:

John R Pierce wrote:

Ruslan Sivak wrote:
We have an application that was build on a windows platform that 
expects a case insensitive file system. Is there a way to set one up 
in CentOS? NTFS should work, I think, but I feel uneasy using that 
under Linux.



NTFS is not whats case insensitive, its WINDOWS thats case insensitive.

you'll need to fix that application to either use all monocase names 
or to be self-consistent enough to run properly on a case sensitive 
system.



I will look into fixing the application, but it may not be possible.  
There must be a filesystem that I can use.  Mac's have HFS+ which can be 
case insensitive.  Aren't Macs pretty much Linux?  Isn't there a similar 
filesystem availalbe for linux?  I wouldn't run the whole system on it, 
just the portion that hosts the app.


Russ
I think that it is the OS that is case sensitive or not, not the filesystem. 
Posix systems are case sensitive, and since Windows isn't a posix system it 
doesn't have to be.


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[CentOS] Re: case insensitive file system

[Szabolcs Szakacsits]

Hi Kevin,

Kevin Krieser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I just tried NTFS-3G on a thumbdrive, and I was able to create a file  
> that differed only by case from another.  Then something got corrupted.

Could you please elaborate what you did and what kind of corruption happened? 

We are doing very exhaustive testing (http://ntfs-3g.org/quality.html) before
all public driver releases and we're not aware of any corruption problem, nor we
have been reported using the latest driver, version 1.2412.

The only issue I can imagine is if the thumbdrive wasn't properly unmounted
before removal. This can cause I/O errors like described at
http://ntfs-3g.org/support.html#ioerror

NTFS is case preserving and case sensitive in the NTFS POSIX filename space what
NTFS-3G uses. This may confuse some Windows applications but unfortunately there
isn't anything we could do about it, because exactly the same thing happen when
one uses the Microsoft NTFS driver to do the same. No difference. More at
http://ntfs-3g.org/support.html#posixfilenames1

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Re: [CentOS] system-config-cluster problem

[Doug Tucker]

Just FYI in case anyone else has this issue.  Thanks Scott Thistle for
the find!


Found this link

http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=1990

Basically, in the python script, it is calling "cman_tool" from /sbin,
but it is really in /usr/sbin. The workaround was:

# ln -s /usr/sbin/cman_tool /sbin


On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 09:24 -0500, Doug Tucker wrote:
> Anyone??
> 
> On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 10:12 -0500, Doug Tucker wrote:
> > I have a 2 node cluster that has been running for a year, and is still
> > up and working fine.  However, a yum update at some point broke
> > system-config-cluster and it cannot load the management tab anymore,
> > because it *thinks* the node is not part of a cluster, yet, all of the
> > definions are there and I can modify them and save, but cannot publish
> > the changes to the cluster using the tool.  Has anyone else experienced
> > this problem, or know what may be wrong?
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Re: [CentOS] case insensitive file system

[Toby Bluhm]

case insensitive on purpose filesystem:


http://www.brain-dump.org/projects/ciopfs/



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Re: [CentOS] case insensitive file system

[Ruslan Sivak]

Les Mikesell wrote:

Ruslan Sivak wrote:

Jim Perrin wrote:

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Ruslan Sivak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Does the entire filesystem need to be case insensitive, or is this a
web based product, where you can do some apache rewrite-fu to make
this work instead?

  
It is a web based product, but I'm not sure rewriterules would help.  
Lets say it's something like this


http://www.domain.com/index.php?action=foo

And inside index.php it does something like



This is a gross simplification, but it's my understanding that if the 
file was named 'foo.php' and someone typed in


http://www.domain.com/index.php?action=Foo

It would still work on windows, but not on linux because of case 
sensitivity.


How do the files get there?  I'd probably use a brute force approach 
like lowercasing everything on the way in, or if case needs to be 
preserved store the real files in one place but build a symlink tree 
somewhere else of all-lowercase names pointing to the real file, then 
lowercase the reference and access the name in the symlink directory.


If you absolutely have to do it through the filesystem, I think you 
could samba-mount a directory (perhaps even shared from the same 
machine) with the case insensitive option.


The files get there through the web app itself.  I will look into how 
hard it is to lowercase everything, but can't I just use something like 
vfat?  Isn't vfat case insensitive?


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Re: [CentOS] case insensitive file system

[Kai Schaetzl]

Ruslan Sivak wrote on Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:29:25 -0400:

> And inside index.php it does something like
> 
> 
> 
> This is a gross simplification, but it's my understanding that if the 
> file was named 'foo.php' and someone typed in
> 
> http://www.domain.com/index.php?action=Foo

did you mean page=Foo ?

I hope that was really just an example. If you take that input unchecked 
and include other files with it your security is non-existant.

> 
> It would still work on windows, but not on linux because of case 
> sensitivity.

Simple: downcase all variable input that you need for further processing.

If it's not external input, but your application simply does not 
differentiate between cases and sometimes includes "Somepage.php" and 
sometimes" somepage.php" that is really bad programming and it's also 
easily solved by a find/replace. Nothing big.


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Re: [CentOS] OFF-TOPIC: Job opportunity in Augusta Georgia

[Alan Bartlett]

2008/4/30 Jim Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Akemi Yagi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Jim Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  > WAY Off topic here, but if anyone's in the Augusta, Georgia area and
> >  >  wants to work as a web developer(css, html, flash, php, photoshop
> and
> >  >  the other usual goodies), we've got a job opening.
> >  >
> >  >  If you like abuse, long hours, low pay, and lots of stress, we have
> >  >  the perfect job for you.
> >
> >  Are you getting fired, Jim?  And this ad is to find / discourage your
> >  replacement?
>
> Hehe, no. Actually I'm getting another PFY to work in the office here,
> and I figure I'll just go ahead and start disillusioning them as early
> as possible :-P
>
> Our operation is growing far beyond what I or the other engineer here
> can comfortably manage, and we're looking to farm out the artistic
> type work to someone else.


And I had assumed that Jim had been promised promotion, from sweeper of the
floors to shelf duster, if he could find someone else to take over his broom
job . . . :-D

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Re: [CentOS] OFF-TOPIC: Job opportunity in Augusta Georgia

[Jim Perrin]

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Akemi Yagi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Jim Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > WAY Off topic here, but if anyone's in the Augusta, Georgia area and
>  >  wants to work as a web developer(css, html, flash, php, photoshop and
>  >  the other usual goodies), we've got a job opening.
>  >
>  >  If you like abuse, long hours, low pay, and lots of stress, we have
>  >  the perfect job for you.
>
>  Are you getting fired, Jim?  And this ad is to find / discourage your
>  replacement?

Hehe, no. Actually I'm getting another PFY to work in the office here,
and I figure I'll just go ahead and start disillusioning them as early
as possible :-P

Our operation is growing far beyond what I or the other engineer here
can comfortably manage, and we're looking to farm out the artistic
type work to someone else.


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Re: [CentOS] OFF-TOPIC: Job opportunity in Augusta Georgia

[Akemi Yagi]

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Jim Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> WAY Off topic here, but if anyone's in the Augusta, Georgia area and
>  wants to work as a web developer(css, html, flash, php, photoshop and
>  the other usual goodies), we've got a job opening.
>
>  If you like abuse, long hours, low pay, and lots of stress, we have
>  the perfect job for you.

Are you getting fired, Jim?  And this ad is to find / discourage your
replacement?

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Re: [CentOS] case insensitive file system

[Les Mikesell]

Ruslan Sivak wrote:

Jim Perrin wrote:

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Ruslan Sivak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Does the entire filesystem need to be case insensitive, or is this a
web based product, where you can do some apache rewrite-fu to make
this work instead?

  
It is a web based product, but I'm not sure rewriterules would help.  
Lets say it's something like this


http://www.domain.com/index.php?action=foo

And inside index.php it does something like



This is a gross simplification, but it's my understanding that if the 
file was named 'foo.php' and someone typed in


http://www.domain.com/index.php?action=Foo

It would still work on windows, but not on linux because of case 
sensitivity.


How do the files get there?  I'd probably use a brute force approach 
like lowercasing everything on the way in, or if case needs to be 
preserved store the real files in one place but build a symlink tree 
somewhere else of all-lowercase names pointing to the real file, then 
lowercase the reference and access the name in the symlink directory.


If you absolutely have to do it through the filesystem, I think you 
could samba-mount a directory (perhaps even shared from the same 
machine) with the case insensitive option.


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Re: [CentOS] case insensitive file system

[Steven R. Ringwald]

On Wednesday 30 April 2008 07:49:14 am Ruslan Sivak wrote:

> >> 
> >>
> >> This is a gross simplification, but it's my understanding that if the
> >> file was named 'foo.php' and someone typed in
> >>
> >> http://www.domain.com/index.php?action=Foo
> >>
> >> It would still work on windows, but not on linux because of case
> >> sensitivity.
> >
> > there is always strtolower and strtoupper, since you are using PHP.

> I'm not using PHP, this was just an example.  I am considering using
> something like strtolower, but then I would have to have all the
> included files in lowercase, and I believe they are in camelcase now.


Hm... This little shell scriptlet might help (change the *.php to whatever 
extension you are using)


for i in `ls *.php`;
do
  orig=$i;
  new=`echo $i | tr [A-Z] [a-z]`;
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Re: [CentOS] case insensitive file system

[Ruslan Sivak]

Steven R. Ringwald wrote:

On Wednesday 30 April 2008 07:29:25 am Ruslan Sivak wrote:
  

Jim Perrin wrote:


On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Ruslan Sivak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Does the entire filesystem need to be case insensitive, or is this a
web based product, where you can do some apache rewrite-fu to make
this work instead?
  

It is a web based product, but I'm not sure rewriterules would help.
Lets say it's something like this

http://www.domain.com/index.php?action=foo

And inside index.php it does something like



This is a gross simplification, but it's my understanding that if the
file was named 'foo.php' and someone typed in

http://www.domain.com/index.php?action=Foo

It would still work on windows, but not on linux because of case
sensitivity.



there is always strtolower and strtoupper, since you are using PHP.

Steve
  


I'm not using PHP, this was just an example.  I am considering using 
something like strtolower, but then I would have to have all the 
included files in lowercase, and I believe they are in camelcase now.


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Re: [CentOS] case insensitive file system

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On Wednesday 30 April 2008 07:29:25 am Ruslan Sivak wrote:
> Jim Perrin wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Ruslan Sivak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Does the entire filesystem need to be case insensitive, or is this a
> > web based product, where you can do some apache rewrite-fu to make
> > this work instead?
>
> It is a web based product, but I'm not sure rewriterules would help.
> Lets say it's something like this
>
> http://www.domain.com/index.php?action=foo
>
> And inside index.php it does something like
>
> 
>
> This is a gross simplification, but it's my understanding that if the
> file was named 'foo.php' and someone typed in
>
> http://www.domain.com/index.php?action=Foo
>
> It would still work on windows, but not on linux because of case
> sensitivity.

there is always strtolower and strtoupper, since you are using PHP.

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RE: [CentOS] OFF-TOPIC: Job opportunity in Augusta Georgia

[Ross S. W. Walker]

Jim Perrin wrote:
> 
> If you like abuse, long hours, low pay, and lots of stress, we have
> the perfect job for you.
> 

Wow, you should really look for a job in sales!

-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] case insensitive file system

[Toby Bluhm]

Ruslan Sivak wrote:

John R Pierce wrote:

Ruslan Sivak wrote:
We have an application that was build on a windows platform that 
expects a case insensitive file system. Is there a way to set one up 
in CentOS? NTFS should work, I think, but I feel uneasy using that 
under Linux.



NTFS is not whats case insensitive, its WINDOWS thats case insensitive.

you'll need to fix that application to either use all monocase names 
or to be self-consistent enough to run properly on a case sensitive 
system.



I will look into fixing the application, but it may not be possible.  
There must be a filesystem that I can use.  Mac's have HFS+ which can 
be case insensitive.  Aren't Macs pretty much Linux?  Isn't there a 
similar filesystem availalbe for linux?  I wouldn't run the whole 
system on it, just the portion that hosts the app.





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RE: [CentOS] case insensitive file system

[Ross S. W. Walker]

Ruslan Sivak wrote:
> Jim Perrin wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Ruslan Sivak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Does the entire filesystem need to be case insensitive, or is this a
> > web based product, where you can do some apache rewrite-fu to make
> > this work instead?
> 
> It is a web based product, but I'm not sure rewriterules would help.  
> Lets say it's something like this
> 
> http://www.domain.com/index.php?action=foo
> 
> And inside index.php it does something like
> 
> 
> 
> This is a gross simplification, but it's my understanding that if the 
> file was named 'foo.php' and someone typed in
> 
> http://www.domain.com/index.php?action=Foo
> 
> It would still work on windows, but not on linux because of case 
> sensitivity.

Is this a php based app then?

You could look at storing your files in mysql which could be made
to be case insensitive and then you could full text index them
quicker and easier as well as preserve this functionality across
platforms.

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Re: [CentOS] case insensitive file system

[Ruslan Sivak]

Jim Perrin wrote:

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Ruslan Sivak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Does the entire filesystem need to be case insensitive, or is this a
web based product, where you can do some apache rewrite-fu to make
this work instead?

  
It is a web based product, but I'm not sure rewriterules would help.  
Lets say it's something like this


http://www.domain.com/index.php?action=foo

And inside index.php it does something like



This is a gross simplification, but it's my understanding that if the 
file was named 'foo.php' and someone typed in


http://www.domain.com/index.php?action=Foo

It would still work on windows, but not on linux because of case 
sensitivity.


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Re: [CentOS] case insensitive file system

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On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Ruslan Sivak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Does the entire filesystem need to be case insensitive, or is this a
web based product, where you can do some apache rewrite-fu to make
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[CentOS] OFF-TOPIC: Job opportunity in Augusta Georgia

[Jim Perrin]

WAY Off topic here, but if anyone's in the Augusta, Georgia area and
wants to work as a web developer(css, html, flash, php, photoshop and
the other usual goodies), we've got a job opening.

If you like abuse, long hours, low pay, and lots of stress, we have
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Re: [CentOS] case insensitive file system

[Ruslan Sivak]

John R Pierce wrote:

Ruslan Sivak wrote:
We have an application that was build on a windows platform that 
expects a case insensitive file system. Is there a way to set one up 
in CentOS? NTFS should work, I think, but I feel uneasy using that 
under Linux.



NTFS is not whats case insensitive, its WINDOWS thats case insensitive.

you'll need to fix that application to either use all monocase names 
or to be self-consistent enough to run properly on a case sensitive 
system.



I will look into fixing the application, but it may not be possible.  
There must be a filesystem that I can use.  Mac's have HFS+ which can be 
case insensitive.  Aren't Macs pretty much Linux?  Isn't there a similar 
filesystem availalbe for linux?  I wouldn't run the whole system on it, 
just the portion that hosts the app.


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Re: [CentOS] Linuxtag 2008 - call for meeting

[Kai Schaetzl]

Ralph Angenendt wrote on Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:04:09 +0200:

> Linuxtag 2008 in Berlin is coming closer by the minute (May 28th to May
> 31st 2008)

I might have liked to help you out at the booth, but unfortunately I'm on 
vacation during that time. Have fun!

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Re: [CentOS] problem installation of mplayer

[Ralph Angenendt]

Mamun wrote:
> Guys,
> I already installed CentOs,but can anyone give a sample of repo files and 
> priorities.conf file.
> 
> As for this 2 files i am unable to install mplayer.

See 

mplayer is in rpmforge and atrpms (watch out when mixing those,
use priorities).

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Guys,
I already installed CentOs,but can anyone give a sample of repo files and 
priorities.conf file.

As for this 2 files i am unable to install mplayer.
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Re: [CentOS] f/oss routing solution?

[Barry Brimer]

On Tue, 29 Apr 2008, John Bowden wrote:


On Sunday 27 April 2008 18:23:18 Rogelio wrote:

I'm looking for an open source router solution, and someone from the list
recently recommended zebra (www.zebra.org). I haven't yet identified all my
needs, but I'm guessing that it will do all my routing needs for a, say,
class C set of IP addresses, particularly if I ever have to do anything
BGP-related.

Anyone have any pointers before I delve in?  Or possibly a recommendation
for another open source routing solution?  Yeah, I know about Cisco stuff,
but I'm hoping to limp along on a shoestring budget until I get a few more
things in place, then I'll rethink everything.


CentOS / Red Hat distribute quagga which is a fork of zebra.  Same 
interface, which in itself is almost 100% cisco syntax.  You could also 
check out Vyatta .. they make open source routers .. not sure what their 
pricing/features are though.


Barry
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Re: [CentOS] f/oss routing solution?

[John Bowden]

On Sunday 27 April 2008 18:23:18 Rogelio wrote:
> I'm looking for an open source router solution, and someone from the list
> recently recommended zebra (www.zebra.org). I haven't yet identified all my
> needs, but I'm guessing that it will do all my routing needs for a, say,
> class C set of IP addresses, particularly if I ever have to do anything
> BGP-related.
>
> Anyone have any pointers before I delve in?  Or possibly a recommendation
> for another open source routing solution?  Yeah, I know about Cisco stuff,
> but I'm hoping to limp along on a shoestring budget until I get a few more
> things in place, then I'll rethink everything.

Hi Rogelio
There is / was a project called something like the CD router project. It would 
turn an old PC with all the PCI slots filled with NIC's and a CD ROM drive 
into a router. Don't know if its still around and I'm not on line at the 
moment to have a look. I'm almost sure I have a copy on CD at home some 
where, if you want let me know and I will have a look for it.
John

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