RE: [CentOS-docs] potential wiki on encryption

2008-09-04 Thread Chris *
This is a newer version of the proposed whole disk encryption HowTo.  I have 
added a section that attempts to combine the information in 
http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/EncryptedFilesystem.  All information has 
not been incorporated, but I tried to keep the instructions for having non-root 
partitions consistent with the steps and methods outlined earlier in the 
document.  I think that this does allow for additional encrypted partitions as 
described in the TipsAndTricks document.

Here's the latest version.

Whole (Most) Disk Encryption on CentOS 5




This document is in the process of being developed




Credit To Others



The primary source for this document was 
http://www.tummy.com/Community/Articles/cryptoroot-f8/.
It was heavily used but adapted to CentOS5 and with some changes which
simplify and improve the process. Other sources that were used are 
http://musialek.org/?p=3 and 
http://agiletesting.blogspot.com/2008/05/encrypting-linux-root-partition-with.html.




Summary


 This document contains step by step instructions for encrypting the
entire disk including swap space with the exception of the /boot
partition on CentOS 5. It assumes that you are planning to encrypt your
disk from install and that your disk is /dev/sda. This document was
created with with CentOS 5.0 before any patches or updates were
applied. There are some optional components within this document that
are not technically necessary for encrypting the disk. Those components
can be ignored for testing, but they should be followed on any “real”
systems.


The end of the document contains optional configurations. This is
useful if you prefer to have additional partitions on the disk. The
step by step instructions will leave a disk with two partitions, /boot
(/dev/sda1) and an LVM (/dev/sda2) partition which contains all system
volumes. The optional section will contain the differences needed to
have an additional partition (/dev/sda3) which may be used as a data
store, NFS share, etc.




Step One: Prepare the disk


 The first step is to prepare the disk. The installer partitioning
software doesn't have the flexibility to be able to do this, so you
will need to switch to the shell and perform the setup manually.



Once the installer has moved into the GUI, press Ctrl-Alt-F2 to get a command 
prompt.



OPTIONAL – Overwrite and randomize the entire
disk. Use shred or dd to overwrite the disk. The technical merits of
multiple overwrites of shred vs. using /dev/random with dd are beyond
the scope of this document. The default options of shred take a very,
very long time to run. The time to complete on any sizeable disk would
likely be measured in days. This note applies to all statements about
radomizing the disks or partitions in this document. 

 # shred -v /dev/sda


or

 # dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda


 
 Use fdisk to create the partitions for install. You will
need to create a /boot partition and an LVM partition at the end of the
disk. The gap in between the two partitions will become your encrypted
file-system. This document will refer to the boot partition as
/dev/sda1 and the install partition at the end of the disk as
/dev/sda3. The encrypted partition will become /dev/sda2.


The partition at the end of the disk should be smaller than the
empty space between /boot and your LVM partition so that there is room
for the meta-data associated with the encryption. The LVM partition
really only needs to be large enough to install the system. You will be
able to expand the system volumes if you like after you have a working,
encrypted system. 
 # fdisk /dev/sda

 RedHat documentation recommends 100MB for the boot partition. Over
time, the /boot partition can fill up as a result of updated kernels if
it is not regularly cleaned. Using a larger /boot partition may be
beneficial. /dev/sda1 should be of type 83 (Linux) and should be
bootable. /dev/sda3 should have sufficient space to perform the
installation. The partition type of /dev/sda3 should be 8e (Linux LVM).
When done, it should look something like: 
 DeviceBoot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
 /dev/sda1   *   1  65  521955   83  Linux
 /dev/sda3   2   3040183554065   8e  Linux LVM

 If you are not familiar with the fdisk commands, you can type “?”
at the fdisk prompt to see a list of commands. Once you have the disk
partitioned correctly (view the partition table with the “p” command
within fdisk), remember to write the partition table while exiting with
the “w” command.



Return to the GUI to complete the installation. Press Ctrl-Alt-F6 to return to 
the GUI.




Step Two: Installing the OS


 The installation must be done using the graphical installer because
the text installer doesn't allow a custom installation to use LVM.



For the partitioning, select “Custom”, and tell it to format sda1 as /boot, and 
sda3 as an LVM physical partition.


Then use the “LVM” button to create a volume group, 

[CentOS-es] sin acceso a samba desde fuera de la red

2008-09-04 Thread Fred Alexander García Natividad
Buenos días amigos; soy novato en linux y espero que puedan ayudarme.

Mi problema es que no puedo acceder desde mi casa a mis archivos compartidos
con samba; esto ocurrio luego de realizar una actualización de mi servidor
con yum.

He revisado la configuración, pense que podía ser el router, pero puedo
conectarme con ssh a mi server, incluso no estan habilitados los servicios
de iptables ni selinux. Probe cambiando la validación con share en lugar de
user y tampoco me sirvio. No tengo ningun problema de conexion en la red
interna.

Mil gracias por la ayuda que me puedan brindar.

Atte.

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Re: [CentOS-es] Squid y ftp

2008-09-04 Thread Enrique Rosario
Saludos.
Conrespecto al ftp.proxy y el 
Frox las ultimas actualizaciones son del 2005. No se me parece como 
desatendido. No existe otro que este mas actual.
-Original Message-

From: Carlos Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: centos-es@centos.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 13:44:04 -0500

Subject: Re: [CentOS-es] Squid y ftp




Saludos.

1)
Revisa la directiva no cache y combinala con una ACL que identifique el 
trafico FTP

2)
Hasta donde recuerdo squid es únicamente un proxy HTTP con soporte 
limitado para FTP. En otras palabras, hacer uploads FTP y administrar 
carpetas y archivos por FTP no es posible


Tienes entonces dos opciones:

a) permites conexion directa a los FTP que quieres administrar sin que pasen 
por squid y colocas en la lista de sitios que no pasan por el proxy del 
navegador el nombre y/o IP del sitio FTP


b) Implementas un proxy FTP como Frox o ftp.proxy (me da la impresión de 
que son la misma cosa) y usas un cliente FTP y no un navegador como explorer 
(ojo que un cliente FTP y un explorador son dos cosas distintas y funcionan 
muy distinto ante un proxy FTP)


Hasta la proxima.
Carlos.


2008/9/2 Enrique Rosario [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Saludos. 
 
Necesito me ayuden en dos cosas. 
 

1- Como hacer para que squid no me cachee el contenido de los sitios 
FTP que visito. 
2- Como hago para poder subir cosas a un ftp 
remoto pasando como proxy por el squid. Con cliente Iexplorer o 
Firefox.


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[CentOS-es] Servidor de llaves

2008-09-04 Thread Fancisco Torrez
Hola, sobre el tema de gpg, he visto que hay
formas de subir las llaves a sitios publicos mediante el protocolo
hkp, mi consulta es que software usan para implementar un servidor que
permita aceptar ese protocolo

Dicho de otra forma con que herramienta puedo montar mi servidor de
llaves (keyserver), sobre Centos


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[CentOS-es] Controlador de Dominio

2008-09-04 Thread Wilder Deza
Holas gente, una consulta tengo la obligación de implementar un 
controlador de dominio, pero ahora por un tema de costos, se ha tomado 
la opción de poder realizar el CD en Linux, ahora no se si se puede 
hacer eso en linux. Agradezco desde ya su ayuda.. estamos alando.

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Re: [CentOS-es] Squid y ftp

2008-09-04 Thread Carlos Martinez
Saludos.

Es cierto. Hace ya buen rato que no actualizan esos proxies FTP.
Desafortunadamente no hay mas de donde escoger o yo no logre encontrar otra
alternativa diferente.

La buena noticia es que frox, funciona muy bien y es bastante estable a
pesar de tener 3 años de no ser modificado.

Hasta la proxima.

Carlos.

2008/9/4 Enrique Rosario [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Saludos.
 Conrespecto al ftp.proxy y el Frox las ultimas actualizaciones son del
 2005. No se me parece como desatendido. No existe otro que este mas actual.


 -Original Message-
 From: Carlos Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: centos-es@centos.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 13:44:04 -0500
 Subject: Re: [CentOS-es] Squid y ftp

  Saludos.

 1)
 Revisa la directiva no cache y combinala con una ACL que identifique el
 trafico FTP

 2)
 Hasta donde recuerdo squid es únicamente un proxy HTTP con soporte
 limitado para FTP. En otras palabras, hacer uploads FTP y administrar
 carpetas y archivos por FTP no es posible

 Tienes entonces dos opciones:

 a) permites conexion directa a los FTP que quieres administrar sin que
 pasen por squid y colocas en la lista de sitios que no pasan por el proxy
 del navegador el nombre y/o IP del sitio FTP

 b) Implementas un proxy FTP como Frox o ftp.proxy (me da la impresión de
 que son la misma cosa) y usas un cliente FTP y no un navegador como explorer
 (ojo que un cliente FTP y un explorador son dos cosas distintas y funcionan
 muy distinto ante un proxy FTP)

 Hasta la proxima.
 Carlos.

 2008/9/2 Enrique Rosario [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

   Saludos.

 Necesito me ayuden en dos cosas.

 1- Como hacer para que squid no me cachee el contenido de los sitios FTP
 que visito.
 2- Como hago para poder subir cosas a un ftp remoto pasando como proxy por
 el squid. Con cliente Iexplorer o Firefox.


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Re: [CentOS-es] Controlador de Dominio

2008-09-04 Thread BlackHand
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 15:55 -0500, Wilder Deza wrote:
 Holas gente, una consulta tengo la obligación de implementar un 
 controlador de dominio, pero ahora por un tema de costos, se ha tomado 
 la opción de poder realizar el CD en Linux, ahora no se si se puede 
 hacer eso en linux.

si es posible

http://www.samba.org
http://www.google.com/search?q=samba+pdc

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Re: [CentOS-es] sin acceso a samba desde fuera de la red

2008-09-04 Thread Mario Ganga
Hola




2008/9/4 Fred Alexander García Natividad [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Buenos días amigos; soy novato en linux y espero que puedan ayudarme.

 Mi problema es que no puedo acceder desde mi casa a mis archivos
 compartidos con samba; esto ocurrio luego de realizar una actualización de
 mi servidor con yum.

 He revisado la configuración, pense que podía ser el router, pero puedo
 conectarme con ssh a mi server, incluso no estan habilitados los servicios
 de iptables ni selinux. Probe cambiando la validación con share en lugar de
 user y tampoco me sirvio. No tengo ningun problema de conexion en la red
 interna.

 Mil gracias por la ayuda que me puedan brindar.

 Atte.

 Fred García Natividad

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Re: [CentOS-es] sin acceso a samba desde fuera de la red

2008-09-04 Thread Mario Ganga
Hola de nuevo

  revisaste los log???   tail -f  /var/log/samba/smb.log y   tail -f
/var/log/samba/nmb.log, parece que son esos

  Tambien un  hace  tail -f /var/log/messages...

  el parametro hostallow e interfaces  agregaste tu ip o red???...

  es lo que te puedo decir con la informacion que envisate...


Atte.
Mario


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 Hola




 2008/9/4 Fred Alexander García Natividad [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Buenos días amigos; soy novato en linux y espero que puedan ayudarme.

 Mi problema es que no puedo acceder desde mi casa a mis archivos
 compartidos con samba; esto ocurrio luego de realizar una actualización de
 mi servidor con yum.

 He revisado la configuración, pense que podía ser el router, pero puedo
 conectarme con ssh a mi server, incluso no estan habilitados los servicios
 de iptables ni selinux. Probe cambiando la validación con share en lugar de
 user y tampoco me sirvio. No tengo ningun problema de conexion en la red
 interna.

 Mil gracias por la ayuda que me puedan brindar.

 Atte.

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Re: [CentOS] How to check for rootkit, troians etc in backed up files?

2008-09-04 Thread Mike McCarty

M. Fioretti wrote:

Hi,

there is a remote (VPS) Centos 4.2 server which *may* have been
compromised. Reinstalling everything from scratch isn't a problem, it
may even be an occasion to improve a few things, the question is
another.


I use rkhunter and chkrootkit. I run them regularly.

If you keep your machine clean, then your backups will be, too.

If you get compromised, then your backups since compromise are
suspect.

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Re: [CentOS] kickstart problems

2008-09-04 Thread Romeo Ninov



Paolo Supino  wrote / napísal(a):



On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Marco Fretz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


hi,

we had the same problem with newer HP pcs and servers (broadcom nics).
pxe works well on broadcom, the install not. doesn't matter if you're
using kickstart or manual install.

the problem was in centos 4.2. after updating the install
environment to
4.5 the problem was gone... so it was a driver issue! the install
kernel
is not exactly the normal linux kernel i think.

if anaconda just says that it cannot find install image, etc. the
system
has no connectivity at this time.

hope this is helpful...

bests
 marco

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   Paolo Supino wrote:
Hi Nate
   

3: After the error comes up I get the HTTP setup
configuration
   screen with
the source website (in IP) and CentOS
directory as I
 entered
   them in the
pxeconfiguration file and as it appears in
the kickstart
   configuration file
and all I have to do is press the 'OK' button to
 continue the
   installation
to a successful completion.

   If that's the case the next most likely culprit is

url --url http://192.168.11.1/source


   Just because the PXE boot loader can download the
 kickstart
   config does not mean that the installation process
 will work
   with that NIC.

   Also I've had lots of broadcom systems not
work with
kickstart over
   the years, it's not uncommon for newer systems
to have
 newer
   revs of the chipsets and those revs not being
 supported by the
   installer.

   But it sounds like in your case it does work, so I
 would look
   at the url above, as it likely is the cause of the
 problem.
Check
   the http access logs on the server for 404s and
 similar errors.

   nate

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Hi Nate

 After figuring what I was doing wrong (see
previous reply
...) I started going through each of my systems
in order to
boot them and install CentOS 5.2 on each. For the
most
 part it
works, but only for the most part? Because once
in a few
 boots
(not machine specific) anaconda stops and either
asks me what
interface it needs to configure 

Re: [CentOS] VMWare Server doesn't like new CentOS installation?

2008-09-04 Thread Tru Huynh
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 06:22:19PM -0700, MHR wrote:
 I just got a nice, shiny new machine at work, a Core 2 Duo, on which I
 ...
 went and got the latest VMWare Server, 1.0.7, from VMWare, pulled down
 their rpm, installed it, and ran vmware-config.pl, which is what I
 have to do (at home) after every new kernel install, too.
...
 
 If you do have inetd or xinetd installed, make sure that /etc/inetd.conf 
 or
 /etc/xinetd.d exists.
 The configuration will continue, but you should re-run
 /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl after you fix the super-server.

You don't have xinetd installed (not installed by default).
rpm -q xinetd || yum install xinetd
and re-run vmware-config.pl

btw, if you have SElinux enforced you will probably need to run:
restorecon -v /etc/services

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] OT: Migration from Evolution to Thunderbird (Thunderbird mbox files)

2008-09-04 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg



Lanny Marcus wrote:
snip

However, in the imap.gmail.com folder
INBOX.msf file properties,
Type is shown as C source code
and MIME type is shown as text/x-csrc


This is irrelevant, whatever tool you are using to see the type of 
that file is wrong.



If someone on the list can point me to where the mbox files for 
Thunderbird on Linux are located, that will be much appreciated. 


You didn't tell us where you're looking, so I can't be sure... But I 
suspect you're looking in the right place.
However with IMAP the mail can stay on the server, so unless you tell 
your MUA to download a copy locally you only see index files.

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Re: [CentOS] mysql

2008-09-04 Thread Mad Unix
However,  am thinking to do the following

mysqlhotcopy --allowold --flushlog -u lt;username --password=lt;password
lt;dbname /var/backups/mysql/

or

/usr/bin/mysqldump -u -p --all-databases -a 
/var/backups/mysql/$(date +%Y%m%d).sql
tar cf - /var/backups/mysql/$(date +%Y%m%d).sql | gzip -c 
/misc/backups/MySQL/$(date +%Y%m%d).tar.gz

Any recommendation 

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 On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Mad Unix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I need to replicate MySQL DB of mulltiple server on SiteA to my DR-Site
  Site_B... all DB
  are alocated on RHEL,SuSE,Centos,Debian, FreeBSD servers.
  I need a script to take Multiple MySql DataBase Backup and then import to
  SiteB, the replica
  can be done as cold or hotbackup and cron it
  Thanks

 I'm sure there are several folks on the list who would be willing to
 contract out for the creation of such a script. If you're looking for
 cheaper stuff though, you might want to have a look at maatkit or
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Re: [CentOS] kickstart problems

2008-09-04 Thread Romeo Ninov



Paolo Supino  wrote / napísal(a):


On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Romeo Ninov [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Paolo Supino  wrote / napísal(a):



On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Marco Fretz
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   hi,

   we had the same problem with newer HP pcs and servers
(broadcom nics).
   pxe works well on broadcom, the install not. doesn't matter
if you're
   using kickstart or manual install.

   the problem was in centos 4.2. after updating the install
   environment to
   4.5 the problem was gone... so it was a driver issue! the
install
   kernel
   is not exactly the normal linux kernel i think.

   if anaconda just says that it cannot find install image,
etc. the
   system
   has no connectivity at this time.

   hope this is helpful...

   bests
marco

   Paolo Supino wrote:
   
   
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   Hi Nate
  
   
   3: After the error comes up I get the
HTTP setup
   configuration
  screen with
   the source website (in IP) and CentOS
   directory as I
entered
  them in the
   pxeconfiguration file and as it
appears in
   the kickstart
  configuration file
   and all I have to do is press the
'OK' button to
continue the
  installation
   to a successful completion.
   
  If that's the case the next most likely
culprit is
   
   url --url http://192.168.11.1/source
   
   
  Just because the PXE boot loader can
download the
kickstart
  config does not mean that the
installation process
will work
  with that NIC.
   
  Also I've had lots of broadcom systems not
   work with
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Re: [CentOS] kickstart problems

2008-09-04 Thread John R Pierce

Paolo Supino wrote:
  On the other hand if you were right about it than RHEL/CentOS/Fedora 
installation would be unsuitable in any multihome configuration 
because it would map ETH devices differently (albeit once in a while) 
which means one whould have to swtich the cables because of network 
device remapping!!! and that isn't something users and corporations 
that use REHL (and there are many of those) would be willing to live 
with :-)



(please PLEASE trim quoted articles to just what you're commenting on, 
like I have above).



I've /never/ seen RHEL/CentOS or any of its predecessors renumber 
ethernet ports on a working system..   I've seen it number them 
backwards, such that eth0 was the port labeled '1' outside the chassis 
and eth1 was port '0', but it was extremely consistent about this (one 
specific case of this I remember is  RHEL2.1 or 3 on a Intel SE7501WV2 
dual xeon board).   I've had a pile of different RH linux configurations 
running on various servers for 10 or more years.



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Re: [CentOS] kickstart problems

2008-09-04 Thread Paolo Supino
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Romeo Ninov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Paolo, this problem occur only in RHEL/CentOS/other RH based distros and not
 in Slack, SuSE, Debian, etc. I was not going deeper in the problem, but that
 is the reality. BTW: You can play with MAC address in incfg files, but this
 is applicable only on already installed machine.About Your remarc for
 corporations and RH - you are right, but how often servers are restarted?
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Hi Romeo

  Not often :-) but I know of thousand of multihomed systems that are
installed via kickstart and never heard of issues like the ones you describe
and if it was a problem Red Hat would have fixed it a long time ago because
it would have seriously heart their bottom line ...




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Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread Romeo Ninov



[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote / napísal(a):

Spiro Harvey, Knossos Networks Ltd  scribbled on Wednesday, September 03,
2008 11:13 PM:

  

2) Why can you possibly help if you yourself are a newbie? It's just the
blind leading the blind.



I've noticed that sometimes only a not-so-new-newbie can help another newbie.
A pro can sometimes not see the problem from the newbies perspective, or
relate even, for the reason he or she *is* a pro and passed the obstacles
years ago. Get my drift?
  
Absolute true, but very often newbie ever if find/detect the problem 
give stupid/dangerous/senseless solution/idea. SO maybe there should be 
some balance and cooperation :-)

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Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread Niki Kovacs

Romeo Ninov a écrit :
  
Absolute true, but very often newbie ever if find/detect the problem 
give stupid/dangerous/senseless solution/idea. 


Reminds me of what happens in Ubuntu forums and the likes on a daily basis.

User A: Help! 3D acceleration doesn't work! Compiz no works!
User B: Try to reinstall your system.
User A: I did what you said, but it still doesn't work!
User C: You must recompile your kernel I think.
User A: What does recompile mean?

I'm sure Eugene Ionesco would have enjoyed these forums :oD

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] Adding patch to Centos Kernel - early build failure

2008-09-04 Thread Duncan

Tru Huynh wrote

Here it goes (testing key signed and not gone through the regular built system):
http://people.centos.org/tru/kernel+bz453094/ 


Cheers,

Tru
  
Thank you, thats great. From what i can tell looking at the .spec it is 
almost identical to the one I have built (although I only built base). 
I've been running my kernel over night and hammering the nfs with no 
errors, so looks like this has solved the issue.


What is the best way of letting people know about the availability of 
this kernel, as it must be a quite widespread problem?


cheers

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RE: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Romeo Ninov  scribbled on Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:36 AM:

 2) Why can you possibly help if you yourself are a newbie? It's just the
 blind leading the blind. 
 
 
 I've noticed that sometimes only a not-so-new-newbie can help another
 newbie. A pro can sometimes not see the problem from the newbies
 perspective, or relate even, for the reason he or she *is* a pro and
 passed the obstacles years ago. Get my drift? 
 
 Absolute true, but very often newbie ever if find/detect the problem
 give stupid/dangerous/senseless solution/idea. SO maybe there should be
 some balance and cooperation :-)

Definitely! Cut them some slack, we've all been there at one point or other.
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Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 04 September 2008 10:03:50 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Romeo Ninov  scribbled on Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:36 AM:
  2) Why can you possibly help if you yourself are a newbie? It's just
  the blind leading the blind.
 
  I've noticed that sometimes only a not-so-new-newbie can help another
  newbie. A pro can sometimes not see the problem from the newbies
  perspective, or relate even, for the reason he or she *is* a pro and
  passed the obstacles years ago. Get my drift?
 
  Absolute true, but very often newbie ever if find/detect the problem
  give stupid/dangerous/senseless solution/idea. SO maybe there should be
  some balance and cooperation :-)

 Definitely! Cut them some slack, we've all been there at one point or
 other. 8-)

It's good that a newbie wants to help other newbies.  As for the quality of 
information, I've seen people who have several years of experience give 
advice that was true years ago but completely wrong now.  A newbie basing his 
information on what he learned as working for him will at least be up to 
date.

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Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread Romeo Ninov


Anne Wilson  wrote / napísal(a):

On Thursday 04 September 2008 10:03:50 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Romeo Ninov  scribbled on Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:36 AM:


2) Why can you possibly help if you yourself are a newbie? It's just
the blind leading the blind.
  

I've noticed that sometimes only a not-so-new-newbie can help another
newbie. A pro can sometimes not see the problem from the newbies
perspective, or relate even, for the reason he or she *is* a pro and
passed the obstacles years ago. Get my drift?


Absolute true, but very often newbie ever if find/detect the problem
give stupid/dangerous/senseless solution/idea. SO maybe there should be
some balance and cooperation :-)
  

Definitely! Cut them some slack, we've all been there at one point or
other. 8-)



It's good that a newbie wants to help other newbies.  As for the quality of 
information, I've seen people who have several years of experience give 
advice that was true years ago but completely wrong now.  A newbie basing his 
information on what he learned as working for him will at least be up to 
date.


  
Anne, that's true too, but usually information and experience of newbie 
ever it is contemporary is not enough for resolve mid or high complexity 
problems. The only advantage will be for some very general notes and 
suggestions. And ever in this case the advise can be wrong or useless 
(as example - filesystems sizing)

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Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 04 September 2008 10:30:41 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok, so this list should be kept a bit more professional than the others. I
 might be touching the zealot/religious angle here. 8-)

 My opinion is that Ubuntu is to linux what etch-a-sketch is to personal
 computers. Sort of. ;-)

And my opinion is that knocking other distros is not a professional attitude.

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Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 04 September 2008 10:22:11 Romeo Ninov wrote:
  It's good that a newbie wants to help other newbies.  As for the quality
  of information, I've seen people who have several years of experience
  give advice that was true years ago but completely wrong now.  A newbie
  basing his information on what he learned as working for him will at
  least be up to date.
 
   

 Anne, that's true too, but usually information and experience of newbie
 ever it is contemporary is not enough for resolve mid or high complexity
 problems. The only advantage will be for some very general notes and
 suggestions. And ever in this case the advise can be wrong or useless
 (as example - filesystems sizing)

Mid or high complexity problems are not likely to be covered in such a site, 
though, are they?  And the advice is no more likely to be wrong than much 
advice I've seen from seasoned linuxers.  The big problem is that it takes a 
while for users to get to know which particular advisors to believe.  On one 
high-volume list I read I would never follow three quarters of the advice I 
see there (and no, it's not a ubuntu list), whereas there are maybe half a 
dozen contributors that I would trust utterly.  The newbie doesn't know that.

Meanwhile, hostile reception of well-meaning efforts does put off a great many 
newbies, which is a real shame.

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RE: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anne Wilson  scribbled on Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:39 AM:

 On Thursday 04 September 2008 10:30:41 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok, so this list should be kept a bit more professional than the others. I
 might be touching the zealot/religious angle here. 8-)
 
 My opinion is that Ubuntu is to linux what etch-a-sketch is to personal
 computers. Sort of. ;-)
 
 And my opinion is that knocking other distros is not a professional
 attitude. 

Perhaps not. I felt this discussion needed some lightening up though. 8-)


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RE: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anne Wilson  scribbled on Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:44 AM:

 Meanwhile, hostile reception of well-meaning efforts does put off a great
 many newbies, which is a real shame.

Well said! (That's what I was trying to say initially but didn't quite
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Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread Niki Kovacs

Anne Wilson a écrit :


Meanwhile, hostile reception of well-meaning efforts does put off a great many 
newbies, which is a real shame.


I wouldn't call it hostility. More in the sense of a polite - and sane - 
scepticism. There's a French saying which may illustrate this:


Hell is paved with good intentions.

Aside, slightly OT: I share my time between working as a (100% 
GNU/Linux) sysadmin and working as a journalist for various IT 
magazines. I just signed a contract with the biggest french computer 
book editor, for a series of two computer books about Linux, a bit in 
the vein of Carla Schroder's and Michael Stutz' cookbook approach. 
Aim: take the newbie by the hand and teach him - or her - what (s)he has 
to know, step by step. All the practical examples (recipes) in the book, 
basic as well as advanced concepts, desktop and server configurations, 
will be based on CentOS 5.


Preview of coming attractions (scheduled for Feb 2009):

www.kikinovak.net/download/LinuxAuxPetitsOignons.pdf (french)
www.kikinovak.net/download/Captures.tar.gz

So, to answer the question above: IMNSHO, the best advice comes from an 
expert who *can* think like a newbie. (At work, I usually deal with the 
opposite paradigm :oD)


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Re: [CentOS] Re: Curmudgeoning (was Re: Problems with writing Dual Layer DVD)

2008-09-04 Thread fred smith
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 10:11:26PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
 
 On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 09:38 -0700, Bill Campbell wrote:
  On Wed, Sep 03, 2008, Ric Moore wrote:
  
  On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 11:19 -0700, John R Pierce wrote:
For shame!  WfW was 3.11,

   
3.1.1,  IIRC
  
   
   actually, there was a 3.10 and 3.11 release of Windows for Workgroups.   
   The 3.11 release introduced the use of 32 bit protected mode 
   implementation of the network stack and file system via extensive use of 
   VxD drivers, and set the stage for Windows95 where almost the whole OS 
   kernel ran in VxD space (prior versions used 16bit realmode IO 
   components from MSDOS).
  
  Anyone ever see wabi running win3.1 under Linux?? THAT was a show
  stopper. It came with Caldera's releases. Mighty nifty it was. Ric
  
  I don't think I ever ran Wabi on Caldera, but did on SCO
  OpenServer 5.0.x.
  
  Whatcha doin' over here Ric?  Normally I see you on the linux-sxs list.
 
 I fled my harsh mistress Fedora! It's not a platform to try and do devel
 work on, or as a server. I need the quiet sedate life where things work
 today like they did yesterday. grins I'll certainly live longer. No
 clue how, why or who, but Xvfb refused to work with F7 and with CentOS
 it works like a charm, out of the box, with java.net's Wonderland
 program. No clue why, but if it breaks in the future, I'll know where
 upstream it came from. cackles Ric

Welcome to CentOS-land, Ric!

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RE: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Niki Kovacs  scribbled on Thursday, September 04, 2008 12:16 PM:

 So, to answer the question above: IMNSHO, the best advice comes from an
 expert who *can* think like a newbie. (At work, I usually deal with the
 opposite paradigm :oD)

There is no more dangerous user than a user that knows *a little* about
computers and who tries to fix stuff for himself (it's usually a he). Every
now and then I get a few of those users at the departments I support, and I
make a point of usually taking them down to the ground again as fast as I can.

As a sysadmin I'm not only helping users with everything IT, I also help them
accept things they can't change. 8-)

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Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread Jim Perrin
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anne Wilson  scribbled on Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:44 AM:

 Meanwhile, hostile reception of well-meaning efforts does put off a great
 many newbies, which is a real shame.

 Well said! (That's what I was trying to say initially but didn't quite
 succeed.)


Pffft. n00b.  :-P


/always one to throw gas on a fire :-)


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RE: [CentOS] kickstart problems

2008-09-04 Thread Joseph L. Casale
I've /never/ seen RHEL/CentOS or any of its predecessors renumber
ethernet ports on a working system..

Yeah, I have never seen it renumber either?

I've seen it number them
backwards, such that eth0 was the port labeled '1' outside the chassis
and eth1 was port '0', but it was extremely consistent about this (one
specific case of this I remember is  RHEL2.1 or 3 on a Intel SE7501WV2
dual xeon board).   I've had a pile of different RH linux configurations
running on various servers for 10 or more years.

Here is a good explanation about this:

http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=encc=ustaskId=115prodSeriesId=254896prodTypeId=15351objectID=c01430330

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[CentOS] swap memory crash

2008-09-04 Thread lingu
Dear all,

   I am getting below syslog error on my oracle database server running on
RHEL4U5. During this time my swap shows zero on both available and  free in
the top command output , result in total system hang. can any one guide me
how to fix this issue of memory and exactly what  this error indicates??

ERROR FROM SYSLOG

#
Aug 30 15:46:20 crmdb kernel: cpu 7 cold: low 0, high 32, batch 16
Aug 30 15:46:20 crmdb kernel:
Aug 30 15:46:20 crmdb kernel: Free pages:   16000kB (2560kB HighMem)
Aug 30 15:46:20 crmdb kernel: Active:1433949 inactive:40363 dirty:1
writeback:0 unstable:0 free:4
000 slab:24910 mapped:1405036 pagetables:565097
Aug 30 15:46:20 crmdb kernel: DMA free:12544kB min:16kB low:32kB high:48kB
active:0kB inactive:0k
B present:16384kB pages_scanned:1878896 all_unreclaimable? yes
Aug 30 15:46:20 crmdb kernel: protections[]: 0 0 0
Aug 30 15:46:20 crmdb kernel: Normal free:896kB min:928kB low:1856kB
high:2784kB active:736kB ina
ctive:208kB present:901120kB pages_scanned:1889 all_unreclaimable? yes
Aug 30 15:46:20 crmdb kernel: protections[]: 0 0 0
Aug 30 15:46:20 crmdb kernel: HighMem free:2560kB min:512kB low:1024kB
high:1536kB active:5735060
kB inactive:161244kB present:8257532kB pages_scanned:0 all_unreclaimable? no
Aug 30 15:46:20 crmdb kernel: protections[]: 0 0 0
Aug 30 15:46:20 crmdb kernel: DMA: 2*4kB 5*8kB 3*16kB 3*32kB 3*64kB 3*128kB
2*256kB 0*512kB 1*102
4kB 1*2048kB 2*4096kB = 12544kB
Aug 30 15:46:20 crmdb kernel: Normal: 0*4kB 28*8kB 2*16kB 0*32kB 0*64kB
1*128kB 0*256kB 1*512kB 0
*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 896kB
Aug 30 15:46:20 crmdb kernel: HighMem: 512*4kB 8*8kB 2*16kB 1*32kB 0*64kB
1*128kB 1*256kB 0*512kB
 0*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 2560kB
Aug 30 15:46:20 crmdb kernel: Swap cache: add 26913978, delete 26700605,
find 10635368/14522876, race 848+1364
Aug 30 15:46:20 crmdb kernel: 0 bounce buffer pages
Aug 30 15:46:20 crmdb kernel: Free swap:   14593184kB
Aug 30 15:46:20 crmdb kernel: 2293759 pages of RAM
Aug 30 15:46:20 crmdb kernel: 1867351 pages of HIGHMEM
Aug 30 15:46:20 crmdb kernel: 216549 reserved pages
Aug 30 15:46:20 crmdb kernel: 44388024 pages shared
Aug 30 15:46:20 crmdb kernel: 213522 pages swap cached
Aug 30 15:46:20 crmdb kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 22462 (oracle).
##


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Re: [CentOS] kickstart problems

2008-09-04 Thread Les Mikesell

John R Pierce wrote:

Paolo Supino wrote:
  On the other hand if you were right about it than RHEL/CentOS/Fedora 
installation would be unsuitable in any multihome configuration 
because it would map ETH devices differently (albeit once in a while) 
which means one whould have to swtich the cables because of network 
device remapping!!! and that isn't something users and corporations 
that use REHL (and there are many of those) would be willing to live 
with :-)



(please PLEASE trim quoted articles to just what you're commenting on, 
like I have above).



I've /never/ seen RHEL/CentOS or any of its predecessors renumber 
ethernet ports on a working system..   I've seen it number them 
backwards, such that eth0 was the port labeled '1' outside the chassis 
and eth1 was port '0', but it was extremely consistent about this (one 
specific case of this I remember is  RHEL2.1 or 3 on a Intel SE7501WV2 
dual xeon board).   I've had a pile of different RH linux configurations 
running on various servers for 10 or more years.


The behavior changed when the system started using udev.  Devices are 
detected in parallel in more or less random order now.  However, the MAC 
address of each NIC is normally stored in the corresponding 
/etc/sysconfig/network.scripts/ifcfg-ethxx file and they are renamed to 
match the device specified in the files as they are activated. 
Kickstarting is a special case since these files don't exist yet, but 
you can specify ksdevice either by mac address or as bootif, meaning the 
interface where the pxe boot happened, according to:

http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/FAQ_80_531.shtm

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[CentOS] Compiling v6tun from KAME

2008-09-04 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I need vtun working over IPv6.  The version from rpmforge does not seem 
to support IPv6 (binds to 0.0.0.0:5000 if I specify binding to the 
interface, and won't let me put in an IPv6 address for address binding).


So I was pointed to the KAME (which does not provide any FC/RHEL 
support.  The person who sent me there provided a makefile that he said 
works on Linux, but did not work for me:


Makefile from KAME:

install_dir = /usr/local/v6/bin

v6tun: v6tun.o
cc -o $@ $

install: v6tun
-rm -f $(install_dir)/v6tun
install -c -o root -g wheel -m 04710 v6tun $(install_dir)

clean:


-rm -f *.o v6tun


Makefile from contact:

v6tun: v6tun.o

   gcc v6tun.c v6tun.h -o v6tun

install: v6tun

   -rm -f $(install_dir)/v6tun

   install -c -o root -g wheel -m 04710 v6tun $(install_dir)

clean: 6tun: v6tun.o-rm -f *.o v6tun

   gcc v6tun.c v6tun.h -o v6tun install: v6tun

   -rm -f $(install_dir)/v6tun

   install -c -o root -g wheel -m 04710 v6tun $(install_dir) clean:

   -rm -f *.o v6tun

I changed the install_dir to /usr/local/bin

I had put the makefile, v6tun.c,  v6tun.h in /root/v6tun and as root 
issued make install.  I got the following error:


Makefile:10: *** target pattern contains no '%'. Stop.


What is missing to get this compiled?




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Re: [CentOS] Re: Help me

2008-09-04 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 06:36:45PM +0100, Martyn Hare wrote:
 Top is preferred, it's a standard just like it's a standard to put:

Its possible you have only been exposed to a very narrow slice
of Internet life.  Please see the IETF document RFC-1855 Section 3
 3.0 One-to-Many Communication

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html

 I would recommend top posting.

So would I - BUT -- ONLY FOR emails between yourself
an another person, NOT a technical email list.

The appropriate solution has already been settled on, and has been in
place for 30 years, as seen in the RFC above.

Keep in mind that technical emails lists are different than one 
to one email dialogs and affect hundreds (and sometimes K's) of
other people every time you send an email.  Top posting to
a technical email list is very very bad form.

Of course, so is failing to trim the email! :-) 

Jeff Kinz


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Re: [CentOS] What is the minimum ISO to build a server?

2008-09-04 Thread Niki Kovacs

Florin Andrei a écrit :


Often I just use the first CD (out of the regular set of install CDs).

http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/centos/5.2/isos/i386/CentOS-5.2-i386-bin-1of6.iso 

Choose customize package groups (or whatever is the name of that 
option) and then unselect all package groups except Base.


This will give you a relatively minimal system. If you want to install 
anything after that, just do a yum install.




That's one of the very few drawbacks from CentOS, compared to other 
distros. If you're a non-english user, you have to use either a DVD or 
the set of CDs. When I install either a server or a desktop, I always 
start out from a minimal system (that is, everything unchecked except 
'Base').


CentOS 5.1 needed CDs 1, 4 and 5 to do a minimal install. With CentOS 
5.2, CDs 1, 3 and 4 are needed. Two extra CDs to install a total amount 
of three localization packages. And there seems to be no way to abort 
the install after CD1 and then fetch the remaining packages (which 
ones?) from the internet.


But then, as german writer Kurt Tucholsky said (referring to a beautiful 
woman): she only lacked a flaw to be perfect.


:o)

Niki
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[CentOS] Nagios 3 RPMs

2008-09-04 Thread Geoff Galitz


Is anyone working on Nagios 3.x RPMs?  If not, perhaps I'll whip some up and
submit them to some appropriate repository.




Geoff Galitz
Blankenheim NRW, Deutschland
http://www.galitz.org


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Re: [CentOS] Nagios 3 RPMs

2008-09-04 Thread Jim Perrin
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Geoff Galitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Is anyone working on Nagios 3.x RPMs?  If not, perhaps I'll whip some up and
 submit them to some appropriate repository.

There are a couple working nagios3 spec files that were passed around
on the rpmforge mailing list. It was determined to wait a bit for
nagios3 to cool off some and get some bug fixes. Also there were some
variable changes between nagios 2.x and nagios 3.x, so updates became
an issue. The specs in the mailing list address these and should work
for you.


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Re: [CentOS] Adding patch to Centos Kernel - early build failure

2008-09-04 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:52 AM, Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tru Huynh wrote

 Here it goes (testing key signed and not gone through the regular built
 system):
 http://people.centos.org/tru/kernel+bz453094/
 Cheers,

 Tru


 Thank you, thats great. From what i can tell looking at the .spec it is
 almost identical to the one I have built (although I only built base). I've
 been running my kernel over night and hammering the nfs with no errors, so
 looks like this has solved the issue.

 What is the best way of letting people know about the availability of this
 kernel, as it must be a quite widespread problem?

According to the upstream bugzilla, the fix will be in
kernel-2.6.18-92.1.13.el5.  We don't know how soon it will come out
but ...

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Re: [CentOS] swap memory crash

2008-09-04 Thread nate
lingu wrote:
 Dear all,

I am getting below syslog error on my oracle database server running on
 RHEL4U5. During this time my swap shows zero on both available and  free in
 the top command output , result in total system hang. can any one guide me
 how to fix this issue of memory and exactly what  this error indicates??

It indicates that you ran out of memory.

1) add more memory
and/or
2) monitor the system closely to determine what is using all of
the available memory and either configure it not to, kill it, or
don't run it at all.

The system sometimes(depending on kernel version) tries to
kill processes it thinks might be related to the excessive
memory usage, to prevent the total system hang, but it's not
always successful.

I use nagios for threshold alerting, and it has a handy check_swap
monitor, I use it to alert when swap is 5% utilized. For my
systems swap is for emergency purposes only.

If Oracle is the only real application on that box and if this
problem happened suddenly, look at the statspack information
(or whatever it's called these days) and try to track down the
query that caused the spike in memory usage.

I found on a couple of occasions with bad queries in Oracle it
could cause memory usage to suddenly spike. Fortunately the
system had something like 16gigs of swap on an 8 disk 15k RPM
RAID 1+0 that was otherwise not used, so while performance
was really slow, the box didn't go down. I think the system
had 16gigs of ram.

I hope you have at least 16GB of memory, with memory prices
these days it's cheap even to have 32GB. Even if you don't
allocate it all to Oracle it's useful to help protect
against situations like this.

nate


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Re: [CentOS] Nagios 3 RPMs

2008-09-04 Thread Grant McChesney
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 8:31 AM, nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Geoff Galitz wrote:
 
 
  Is anyone working on Nagios 3.x RPMs?  If not, perhaps I'll whip some up
 and
  submit them to some appropriate repository.

 Dag's repository has had them for some time. I haven't tried the
 binaries, only the source rpms but they work fine, have had one
 system running on nagios 3 for a couple months now, just fired up
 another one yesterday.

 nate



Are you sure about Dag already offering Nagios 3?  I don't see any mention
of it on his site: http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/packages/nagios/
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Re: [CentOS] How to check for rootkit, troians etc in backed up files?

2008-09-04 Thread Charles E Campbell Jr

Mike McCarty wrote:

M. Fioretti wrote:

Hi,

there is a remote (VPS) Centos 4.2 server which *may* have been
compromised. Reinstalling everything from scratch isn't a problem, it
may even be an occasion to improve a few things, the question is
another.


I use rkhunter and chkrootkit. I run them regularly.

If you keep your machine clean, then your backups will be, too.

If you get compromised, then your backups since compromise are
suspect.

Mike

When I tried
 yum -y install chkrootkit.i386
I got...
No package chkrootkit.i386 available.

When I tried
 yum -y install rkhunter.noarch
I got...
No package rkhunter.noarch available.

These were the two names mentioned on my yum list, so I updated my yum 
list (yum -y list  yum.list), and I find that neither is present anymore.


Regards,
Chip Campbell

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Re: [CentOS] How to check for rootkit, troians etc in backed up files?

2008-09-04 Thread Mogens Kjaer
Charles E Campbell Jr wrote:
...
 These were the two names mentioned on my yum list, so I updated my yum
 list (yum -y list  yum.list), and I find that neither is present anymore.

Both are in the EPEL repository.

Mogens
-- 
Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg A/S, Computer Department
Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark
Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Fax: +45 33 27 47 08
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.crc.dk
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Re: [CentOS] mysql

2008-09-04 Thread nate
Mad Unix wrote:
 However,  am thinking to do the following

 mysqlhotcopy --allowold --flushlog -u lt;username --password=lt;password
 lt;dbname /var/backups/mysql/

mysqlhotcopy doesn't support InnoDB last I checked(past week).
InnoDB is generally the suggested engine to use for MySQL
these days, I can't imagine using MyISAM anymore.

 /usr/bin/mysqldump -u -p --all-databases -a 
 /var/backups/mysql/$(date +%Y%m%d).sql
 tar cf - /var/backups/mysql/$(date +%Y%m%d).sql | gzip -c 
 /misc/backups/MySQL/$(date +%Y%m%d).tar.gz

you should use the lock databases option so you can get
a consistent backup, of course no changes to the DB will
be possible during the backup. mysqldump also does not
back up user permissions/accounts. So you'll have to re-create
those on the other side.

 Any recommendation 

For InnoDB there is a commercial hot backup app for it,
which is about $1500/server for a perpetual license:

http://www.innodb.com/hot-backup/

What I did at my last company was shut down the standby
mysql database, snapshot it from the storage array, start up
the database(this entire process takes about 35 seconds),
export the snapshotted volumes to a 3rd server and back it
up there, then delete the snapshots after it was done.

sample log file:
http://portal.aphroland.org/~aphro/san/mysql-backup-prod-backup-2_20080319_070501.log

It worked beautifully, reduced standby downtime from ~3 hours
to ~35 seconds, and allowed the standby dbs to actually be
standby dbs. Also allowed consolidation of several different
backups onto a single system.

If you don't yet have a standby database and want to build
one you could do something similar, take the primary down
for a few seconds to snapshot it, and then put the snapshot
on another system for restoration onto a fresh volume to
populate the initial standby.

Of course to do that you need good storage infrastructure,
not sure what yours looks like.

nate


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Re: [CentOS] Nagios 3 RPMs

2008-09-04 Thread nate
Grant McChesney wrote:

 Are you sure about Dag already offering Nagios 3?  I don't see any mention
 of it on his site: http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/packages/nagios/

Your right, sorry bout that, I thought they came from Dag.

Looks like they came from OpenSUSE, based on the versioning,
I've since rebuilt the src rpms so I don't have the originals
anymore:

http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.0/repo/src-oss/suse/src/nagios-3.0.1-19.1.src.rpm

Built against CentOS 4.6 32/64bit and CentOS 5.1 32/64-bit all
works fine.

nate

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Re: [CentOS] OT: Migration from Evolution to Thunderbird (Thunderbird mbox files)

2008-09-04 Thread Lanny Marcus

mouss wrote:

Lanny Marcus wrote:

snip
The Thunderbird documentation says that it uses mbox files, but if so, 
where_are_they? Here's what it says:



http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/faq#import

snip
(Inbox, Sent, etc.) is stored as two files — one with no extension 
(e.g. INBOX), which is the mail file itself (in mbox format), and 
one with an .msf extension (e.g. INBOX.msf), which is the index (Mail 
Summary File) to the mail file. Tell the other program to import mail 
from the file with no extension.

snip


and I cannot find the mbox files

snip


If someone on the list can point me to where the mbox files for 
Thunderbird on Linux are located, that will be much appreciated. I do 
not want to migrate from Evolution to Thunderbird, unless my email 
will continue to be in the mbox format, in case I eventually decide to 
migrate from Thunderbird, to another MUA. TIA!


look under $HOME/.mozilla* (if you see a funny dirname, that name is a 
profile id. chdir to ...).


The data for Firefox is located in .mozilla The mbox files for 
Thunderbird are supposed to be in .thunderbird but I cannot find them there.


The simplest way to migrate is to setup a local IMAP server, create an 
account on both evolution and TB. then copy your old mail to the imap 
server from one mailer, and get it from imap to the second mailer. may 
take time if you have a large mailbox, but this way you don't have to 
convert files (or even find them).


My email is on gmail.com  IMAP and yes, I could start over with 
Thunderbird by downloading everything into Thunderbird from the IMAP 
server.


The problem is that if I ever want to migrate from Thunderbird, I want 
to be sure that I know where the mbox files are located and at this 
time, I cannot find the mbox files.


The documentation on the Thunderbird support site is not showing what I 
am seeing on my Desktop box. Possibly I should post this on a 
Thunderbird mailing list, because their documentation shows something 
that is not correct?

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Re: [CentOS] How to check for rootkit, troians etc in backed up files?

2008-09-04 Thread Charles Campbell

Mogens Kjaer wrote:

Charles E Campbell Jr wrote:
...
  

These were the two names mentioned on my yum list, so I updated my yum
list (yum -y list  yum.list), and I find that neither is present anymore.



Both are in the EPEL repository.

Mogens
  


OK -- I followed directions as given by:

 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/FAQ#How_can_I_install_the_packages_from_the_EPEL_software_repository.3F


and got:

rpm -Uvh http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/i386/epel-release
Retrieving http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/i386/epel-release
error: skipping 
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/i386/epel-release - 
transfer failed - Unknown or unexpected error
warning: u 0x1fe50070 ctrl 0x1fe54370 nrefs != 0 
(download.fedora.redhat.com http)


Seems I need some more hints!

Thank you,
Chip Campbell

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Re: [CentOS] NFS issues

2008-09-04 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Akemi Yagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 CentOS developer, Tru, compiled a patched version of regular kernel
 and is offering it at:

 http://people.centos.org/tru/kernel+bz453094/

 Also, the fix will be in the upcoming kernel-2.6.18-92.1.13.el5
 according to the bugzilla referred to above.

The bugzilla link is actually this one:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=459083

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Re: [CentOS] OT: Migration from Evolution to Thunderbird (Thunderbird mbox files)

2008-09-04 Thread Lanny Marcus

Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote:
snip
If someone on the list can point me to where the mbox files for 
Thunderbird on Linux are located, that will be much appreciated. 


You didn't tell us where you're looking, so I can't be sure... But I 
suspect you're looking in the right place.


I am trying to find the mbox files in .thunderbird which is where the 
Thunderbird help documentation says they should be.


However with IMAP the mail can stay on the server, so unless you tell 
your MUA to download a copy locally you only see index files.


With the Evolution MUA, also using IMAP on gmail.com the mbox files are 
easily seen. in .evolution


I suspect that I should post on a Thunderbird mailing list and ask where 
the mbox files are located on my Desktop, or, if using IMAP, as I am, 
there are no mbox files on my Desktop. Probably it's one or the other.

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Re: [CentOS] How to check for rootkit, troians etc in backed up files?

2008-09-04 Thread Steve Huff


On Sep 4, 2008, at 11:05 AM, Charles Campbell wrote:

rpm -Uvh http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/i386/epel- 
release

Retrieving http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/i386/epel-release
error: skipping http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/i386/epel-release 
 - transfer failed - Unknown or unexpected error
warning: u 0x1fe50070 ctrl 0x1fe54370 nrefs != 0  
(download.fedora.redhat.com http)


Seems I need some more hints!



the url you are using for the epel-release package is incorrect.   
CentOS-oriented documentation is here:


http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories?highlight=(epel)

-steve

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Re: [CentOS] How to check for rootkit, troians etc in backed up files?

2008-09-04 Thread Charles Campbell

Steve Huff wrote:


On Sep 4, 2008, at 11:05 AM, Charles Campbell wrote:


rpm -Uvh http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/i386/epel-release
Retrieving 
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/i386/epel-release
error: skipping 
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/i386/epel-release - 
transfer failed - Unknown or unexpected error
warning: u 0x1fe50070 ctrl 0x1fe54370 nrefs != 0 
(download.fedora.redhat.com http)


Seems I need some more hints!



the url you are using for the epel-release package is incorrect.  
CentOS-oriented documentation is here:


http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories?highlight=(epel)

Thank you -- I'll try this again when I have time.

Regards,
Chip Campbell

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Re: [CentOS] OT: Migration from Evolution to Thunderbird (Thunderbird mbox files)

2008-09-04 Thread Lorenzo Quatrini
Nicolas Thierry-Mieg ha scritto:
 
 
 Lanny Marcus wrote:
 snip
 However, in the imap.gmail.com folder
 INBOX.msf file properties,
 Type is shown as C source code
 and MIME type is shown as text/x-csrc
 
 This is irrelevant, whatever tool you are using to see the type of
 that file is wrong.
 
 
 If someone on the list can point me to where the mbox files for
 Thunderbird on Linux are located, that will be much appreciated. 
 
 You didn't tell us where you're looking, so I can't be sure... But I
 suspect you're looking in the right place.
 However with IMAP the mail can stay on the server, so unless you tell
 your MUA to download a copy locally you only see index files.

I can confirm that: if you select the folder for offline use you'll find on the
imap.gmak.com folder an INBOX which looks like an mbox file.

--
Regards
Lorenzo Quatrini

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Re: [CentOS] OT: Migration from Evolution to Thunderbird (Thunderbird mbox files)

2008-09-04 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg



Lanny Marcus wrote:
However with IMAP the mail can stay on the server, so unless you tell 
your MUA to download a copy locally you only see index files.


With the Evolution MUA, also using IMAP on gmail.com the mbox files are 
easily seen. in .evolution


I suspect that I should post on a Thunderbird mailing list and ask where 
the mbox files are located on my Desktop, or, if using IMAP, as I am, 
there are no mbox files on my Desktop. Probably it's one or the other.


I guess evolution automatically saves a local copy of your mail.
As I suggested earlier, Thunderbird does not.
Go in File, Offline, Download/Sync now and choose the folders that you 
want to download...

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Re: [CentOS] How to check for rootkit, troians etc in backed up files?

2008-09-04 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg



Charles Campbell wrote:

Mogens Kjaer wrote:

Charles E Campbell Jr wrote:
...
 

These were the two names mentioned on my yum list, so I updated my yum
list (yum -y list  yum.list), and I find that neither is present 
anymore.



Both are in the EPEL repository.


OK -- I followed directions as given by:


snip

Seems I need some more hints!



If rpmforge is already configured for you, it might be simpler to get 
them from there

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[CentOS] upstream ipa on centos inside openvz container

2008-09-04 Thread Ivan Levchenko
Hi,

I'm trying to install rh ipa server on centos 5.2. i downloaded the
srpms and built them on centos 5.2. they installed perfectly (via yum
localinstall to handle the dependencies).

While going through the ipa-server-install script, while starting,
ns-slapd seg faults. i did some digging and when i turned on debugging
for ns-slapd, here is what i found out:

[04/Sep/2008:09:32:16 -0700] - dse_read_one_file processing entry
cn=config in file /etc/dirsrv/slapd-MYDOMAIN-COM/dse.ldif (primary
file)
Segmentation fault

This is all going on inside a centos host node running openvz and a
centos 5.2 container.

Does anybody have some exp. with ipa? i'm a bit lost here.

I'm installing it in the first place to have a unified directory for
the users/emails/permissions.

Thanks in advance.
--

Best Regards,

Ivan Levchenko
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Re: [CentOS] OT: Migration from Evolution to Thunderbird (Thunderbird mbox files)

2008-09-04 Thread mouss

Lanny Marcus wrote:

My email is on gmail.com  IMAP and yes, 


If it's on imap, then forget about TB mbox files. the messages are on 
the server (TB can cache messages, but you are not supposed to know how 
it exactly does. so don't play this game).



I could start over with 
Thunderbird by downloading everything into Thunderbird from the IMAP 
server.


The problem is that if I ever want to migrate from Thunderbird, I want 
to be sure that I know where the mbox files are located and at this 
time, I cannot find the mbox files.


just leave all mail on the server and use whatever client you want. 
that's one of the benefits of imap.




The documentation on the Thunderbird support site is not showing what I 
am seeing on my Desktop box.


most people use POP3, in which case messages are downloaded and stored 
locally. Things are different with imap. the copies that the client 
holds are only for performances and you are not supposed to use them.


Possibly I should post this on a 
Thunderbird mailing list, because their documentation shows something 
that is not correct?


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Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread MHR
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Niki Kovacs  scribbled on Thursday, September 04, 2008 12:16 PM:

 So, to answer the question above: IMNSHO, the best advice comes from an
 expert who *can* think like a newbie. (At work, I usually deal with the
 opposite paradigm :oD)

 There is no more dangerous user than a user that knows *a little* about
 computers and who tries to fix stuff for himself (it's usually a he). Every
 now and then I get a few of those users at the departments I support, and I
 make a point of usually taking them down to the ground again as fast as I can.

:

 MotD:
 Those of you that think you know everything, are annoying to those of us that
 do.


IMVMHO, having been brand new to CentOS but a long time Linux user and
sometimes administrator, delving into the depths of the kernel,
returning to the Linux email list world (as an idiot AND a newbie) and
now charged in part with porting a major real-life real-time app from
FC1 to CentOS, my best advice for newbies of all stripes would be
this:

RTFM, then read everything else you can find, and remember, Google is
your friend.

Subscribe to one or more email lists based on what you found in your
extensive reading (see above) AND READ at least long enough to learn
how to post, whom to trust, who the curmudgeons are (no, kidding on
that last one!), etc.  (I.e., read some more.)

ONLY when all else fails, ask (nicely) on a list where you have some
idea how to post and whom to trust in response.

Oh, yeah, and avoid pretentious signatures, even if they contain your
real job title - they just piss off the people whose answers you
really need.

(Yes, I am speaking from first hand experience on all of the above.
Most of you already know that ;^)

Now, if there was a web site that said all of that and nothing else,
that would be perfect for newbies (and newbies who think they are
not).

mhr

(IMVMHO: In my very much humbled opinion,...)
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Re: [CentOS] Re: Help me

2008-09-04 Thread MHR
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Jeff Kinz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 06:36:45PM +0100, Martyn Hare wrote:
 Top is preferred, it's a standard just like it's a standard to put:
:
 I would recommend top posting.
:
 The appropriate solution has already been settled on, and has been in
 place for 30 years, as seen in the RFC above.

 Keep in mind that technical emails lists are different than one
 to one email dialogs and affect hundreds (and sometimes K's) of
 other people every time you send an email.  Top posting to
 a technical email list is very very bad form.

 Of course, so is failing to trim the email! :-)


When someone joins an email list, especially one like this one, they
agree to abide by the terms of the list.  The three I see Martyn
(specifically, and in this case - there are others - hoo boy are
there!) failing in on this thread are:

1) Meaningful subject line (the OP did this - I can't remember who
that was and there were 1310 hits on help me, which, in and of
itself, was not helpful...).
2) Bottom post.
3) Trim replies to the relevant parts.

One thing they do NOT do is come in and argue that the list
conventions are wrong because the new person doesn't like them.  In
general, if you went to someone else's party, would you tell them how
to run it?

I started off top posting (and in html) out of habit.  When this was
brought to my attention, it was not at all hard to change, and
amazingly, the threads make more sense (and are more legible) this way
(imagine that!!!).

When in Rome,...

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RE: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread Ross S. W. Walker
MHR wrote:
 
 IMVMHO, having been brand new to CentOS but a long time Linux user and
 sometimes administrator, delving into the depths of the kernel,
 returning to the Linux email list world (as an idiot AND a newbie) and
 now charged in part with porting a major real-life real-time app from
 FC1 to CentOS, my best advice for newbies of all stripes would be
 this:
 
 RTFM, then read everything else you can find, and remember, Google is
 your friend.
 
 Subscribe to one or more email lists based on what you found in your
 extensive reading (see above) AND READ at least long enough to learn
 how to post, whom to trust, who the curmudgeons are (no, kidding on
 that last one!), etc.  (I.e., read some more.)
 

LEARN 'man', 'apropos' and 'info' they are almost always there
in every system and they hold the knowledge of the OS.

Start with 'man man' and know the help system inside and out
because after 15+ years working in Unix/Linux environments
a day doesn't go by where I don't hit at least 1 man page and
knowing how to flip through it to the parts you want will
save you untold time.

Oh and don't forget virtualization is your friend in learning!

VMware workstation, Parallels, Virtual Box, Xen, Hyper-V, they're
all good for learning!

Create a VM per-distro, see how each distro installs, see how each
is managed. Take snapshots and play around with their configs, see
how they break, see if you can fix them, if not revert to the
snapshot. Get your feet wet.

-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] VMWare Server doesn't like new CentOS installation?

2008-09-04 Thread MHR
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 11:53 PM, Tru Huynh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You don't have xinetd installed (not installed by default).
 rpm -q xinetd || yum install xinetd
 and re-run vmware-config.pl


This is weird - I swear I checked that, and xinetd _was_ installed,
but I just checked again and, surprise, it was not.  Thanks!

 btw, if you have SElinux enforced you will probably need to run:
 restorecon -v /etc/services


I don't use selinux - don't like it.

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Re: [CentOS] kickstart problems

2008-09-04 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 04 September 2008 18:04:49 MHR wrote:
 If you can take the time to scroll down to the bottom of an email to
 answer it properly (i.e., bottom post), then you can trim it on the
 way down.  If your email automatically bottom-posts, then I guess you
 just need to do some courtesy up-scrolling.

In addition, if you use kmail highlighting the section that you want to reply 
to will give you a clean start with only the appropriate bit copied, like 
this :-)  It doesn't work if you need to intersperse many comments, but where 
only one section is relevant it's a huge help.

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Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread Ric Moore

On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 12:15 +0200, Niki Kovacs wrote:

 So, to answer the question above: IMNSHO, the best advice comes from an 
 expert who *can* think like a newbie. (At work, I usually deal with the 
 opposite paradigm :oD)

That is the Super User. Someone much more advanced than your usual
user, but clearly not a kernel developer. grins Ric

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Re: [CentOS] Configuring an Intel 3945 wireless card: partial success

2008-09-04 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Niki Kovacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Any idea why NetworkManager refuses to connect to my network?

 Niki

If I remember, you are using the ipw3945 module.  This is being
deprecated and replaced by iwl3945.  While the new one might not fix
your problem, it wouldn't hurt to try it.  In my case, ipw3945 did not
work but iwl3945 did.

Trouble is that the iwl3945 module is disabled in the distro kernel.
However, it is enabled in the centosplus kernel.  So, the quickest way
to test it is to install the cplus kernel.

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Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread Mike McCarty

Ross S. W. Walker wrote:

[snip good advice]


Oh and don't forget virtualization is your friend in learning!

VMware workstation, Parallels, Virtual Box, Xen, Hyper-V, they're
all good for learning!

Create a VM per-distro, see how each distro installs, see how each
is managed. Take snapshots and play around with their configs, see
how they break, see if you can fix them, if not revert to the
snapshot. Get your feet wet.


May I suggest that, if you really want to learn how a Linux
system gets put together, and works, then get a copy of
Linux from Scratch and build your own?

http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/

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Re: [CentOS] swap memory crash

2008-09-04 Thread John R Pierce

MHR wrote:

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:53 AM, lingu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Dear all,

   I am getting below syslog error on my oracle database server running on
RHEL4U5. During this time my swap shows zero on both available and  free in
the top command output , result in total system hang. can any one guide me
how to fix this issue of memory and exactly what  this error indicates??


It strikes me that someone running RH4U5 should be able to get
technical support from Red Hat, no?...
  



and, for that matter, someone running Oracle in production should have 
an Oracle support contract, and should work through them.



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Re: [CentOS] OT: Migration from Evolution to Thunderbird (Thunderbird mbox files)

2008-09-04 Thread Lanny Marcus

Lorenzo Quatrini wrote:

Nicolas Thierry-Mieg ha scritto:

Lanny Marcus wrote:
snip


If someone on the list can point me to where the mbox files for
Thunderbird on Linux are located, that will be much appreciated. 

You didn't tell us where you're looking, so I can't be sure... But I
suspect you're looking in the right place.
However with IMAP the mail can stay on the server, so unless you tell
your MUA to download a copy locally you only see index files.


I can confirm that: if you select the folder for offline use you'll find on the
imap.gmak.com folder an INBOX which looks like an mbox file.


Progress!  A few hours ago, I changed a configuration setting in 
Thunderbird and I now have the mbox file for INBOX on my hard drive. 
:-)  Hoping I can now do whatever I did for INBOX for Sent Mail!

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Re: [CentOS] swap memory crash

2008-09-04 Thread nate
John R Pierce wrote:

 and, for that matter, someone running Oracle in production should have
 an Oracle support contract, and should work through them.

Yeah both right, didn't even think about that.. I'd be pretty
scared to run an Oracle DB with a newbie system admin. Not
knowing what sort of data is in the DB, if it's even a little
important I'd strongly suggest the OP getting someone more
experienced to manage the system, Not knowing where the OP
is I recommend Blue Gecko, a U.S. Oracle/Linux consulting shop
based out of Seattle, used them for Oracle DBs I had at my
last company.

http://www.bluegecko.net/

Oracle is a big complex beast, really powerful, and a real
good product if you use it right. When I first started using
it I really didn't like it and wanted to get rid of it, but
it's grown on me a lot over the years and I've gained a lot
of respect for it as a product and the technologies behind
it. And while Enterprise edition is really expensive, Standard
edition is dirt cheap by comparison and still very capable.

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Re: [CentOS] kickstart problems

2008-09-04 Thread William L. Maltby

On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 18:51 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
 In addition, if you use kmail highlighting the section that you want
 to reply 
 to will give you a clean start with only the appropriate bit copied,
 like 
 this :-)  It doesn't work if you need to intersperse many comments,
 but where 
 only one section is relevant it's a huge help.

And Evolution does the same. I suspect many do.

 
 Anne
 

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Re: [CentOS] USB flash drive and VMs (Was Curmudgeoning)

2008-09-04 Thread Marcelo Roccasalva
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 12:41 PM, David G. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can't argue with you  :-)   It does seem likely, as 1GB flash drives
 wouldn't have been a possibility at that time.  I never owned one at all
 until relatively recently.



   They didn't work in 98 first edition, nor in NT4 or Win2000 - again,
   from
   memory, which could be faulty.


 
   In Win2k, Micro$oft finally got up to speed and most flash drives
  will work with it, but XP is better.
 


 Fair enough.  Out of curiosity - do they work in W2K out of the box, or
 require some update?  I ask because I'm considering W2K as a VM.

 Anne

 Flash support under qemu seems to be about the same as CD-ROM support.  That
 is, you can access a device present at start up but it's not swappable.

You can swap cdrom from qemu monitor. I haven't tried, but I think the
same thing can be applied to usb..

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Re: [CentOS] OT: Migration from Evolution to Thunderbird (Thunderbird mbox files)

2008-09-04 Thread Lanny Marcus

Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote:

Lanny Marcus wrote:
However with IMAP the mail can stay on the server, so unless you tell 
your MUA to download a copy locally you only see index files.


With the Evolution MUA, also using IMAP on gmail.com the mbox files 
are easily seen. in .evolution


I suspect that I should post on a Thunderbird mailing list and ask 
where the mbox files are located on my Desktop, or, if using IMAP, as 
I am, there are no mbox files on my Desktop. Probably it's one or the 
other.


I guess evolution automatically saves a local copy of your mail.
As I suggested earlier, Thunderbird does not.
Go in File, Offline, Download/Sync now and choose the folders that you 
want to download...


Yes. Apparently, Evolution automatically creates the mbox files on my 
local hard drive. I have the mbox files on my hard drive now. Thanks

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Re: [CentOS] OT: Migration from Evolution to Thunderbird (Thunderbird mbox files)

2008-09-04 Thread Lanny Marcus

mouss wrote:

Lanny Marcus wrote:
If it's on imap, then forget about TB mbox files. the messages are on 
the server (TB can cache messages, but you are not supposed to know how 
it exactly does. so don't play this game).


I now have the mbox files on my hard drive. I think that is the default
with Evolution.  I assume google backs up their gmail servers, but 
having a local copy, my own backup, is a plus.


just leave all mail on the server and use whatever client you want. 
that's one of the benefits of imap.


IMAP is what gmail recommends.


most people use POP3, in which case messages are downloaded and stored 
locally. Things are different with imap. the copies that the client 
holds are only for performances and you are not supposed to use them.


So far, Thunderbird seems to be stable and solid, no issues like with 
Evolution, so I will probably migrate my primary email account to 
Thunderbird, within the next few days.


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Re: [CentOS] kickstart problems

2008-09-04 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 04 September 2008 20:02:25 William L. Maltby wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 18:51 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
  In addition, if you use kmail highlighting the section that you want
  to reply
  to will give you a clean start with only the appropriate bit copied,
  like
  this :-)  It doesn't work if you need to intersperse many comments,
  but where
  only one section is relevant it's a huge help.

 And Evolution does the same. I suspect many do.

I thought that was probably so, but didn't have the experience to state it :-)  
It's a very useful tip, as is using the space bar for scrolling down.

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RE: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread Ross S. W. Walker
Mike McCarty wrote:
 Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
 
 [snip good advice]
 
  Oh and don't forget virtualization is your friend in learning!
  
  VMware workstation, Parallels, Virtual Box, Xen, Hyper-V, they're
  all good for learning!
  
  Create a VM per-distro, see how each distro installs, see how each
  is managed. Take snapshots and play around with their configs, see
  how they break, see if you can fix them, if not revert to the
  snapshot. Get your feet wet.
 
 May I suggest that, if you really want to learn how a Linux
 system gets put together, and works, then get a copy of
 Linux from Scratch and build your own?
 
 http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
 

Well for a newbie that might be too much to start with.

I'd probably go, CentOS/RHEL/Suse - Gentoo, then if you know the
parts of a working distro well, then try to roll your own.

-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] OT: workstation recommends: Thinkmate?

2008-09-04 Thread Lanny Marcus

Barry Olddog wrote:
I'm looking to buy a new workstation, and it looks like Thinkmate makes what I need -- their vsx virtually silent variety. I hestitate because I  wasn't happy with a laptop I bought a few years ago from a small outfit that sold Linux boxes exclusively. Does anyone have experience with Thinkmate, and in particular, the VSX line? If the later, is it really quiet. 


I run Centos on four machines now, three of which are Dells, and I'm hoping to 
do better. The Dell T5400 is close to what I want, but I get more for less from 
Thinkpad -- at least on paper.


No experience with Thinkmate, or, knowledge of them, but 4 of the 5 
computers in this room are Dell's. If Thinkmate is a long established 
company, with an excellent reputation, buy from them. If not, Dell will 
be around, to support your T5400, for a long time.

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[CentOS] kickstart debug

2008-09-04 Thread Jerry Geis

I am trying to do some new things with kickstart.
I get a message that pops up Could not allocate requested partitions 
press OK to reboot.


How do you go about debugging the kickstart file?
How can I pop up information (in text mode) on the screen??? so I can 
see my values for my partitions.


THanks,

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Re: [CentOS] kickstart debug

2008-09-04 Thread nate
Jerry Geis wrote:
 I am trying to do some new things with kickstart.
 I get a message that pops up Could not allocate requested partitions
 press OK to reboot.

 How do you go about debugging the kickstart file?
 How can I pop up information (in text mode) on the screen??? so I can
 see my values for my partitions.

If your on a VGA console(e.g. not serial port) you can check
the other virtual terminals (ALT+F2,F3,F4 etc) to see what might be
going on..

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Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread josh donovan
--- On Wed, 3/9/08, Sadaruwan Samaraweera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Sadaruwan Samaraweera [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies
 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 Date: Wednesday, 3 September, 2008, 9:08 AM
 Hi Good People,
 
  I've created a blog to help newbies in the
 world of Linux. Can you
 people see it and tell what departments that I've to
 improve more to help
 the grate community of Linux.
 
 Please click this link to go to my blog
 http://slinuxworld.blogspot.com/
 
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How are you helping newbies? There is no structure at all.

Thanks!
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RE: [CentOS] kickstart debug

2008-09-04 Thread Joseph L. Casale
I get a message that pops up Could not allocate requested partitions
press OK to reboot.

Got the clearpart in there?
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Re: [CentOS] OT: workstation recommends: Thinkmate?

2008-09-04 Thread Rainer Duffner


Am 04.09.2008 um 21:36 schrieb Lanny Marcus:


Barry Olddog wrote:
I'm looking to buy a new workstation, and it looks like Thinkmate  
makes what I need -- their vsx virtually silent variety. I  
hestitate because I  wasn't happy with a laptop I bought a few  
years ago from a small outfit that sold Linux boxes exclusively.  
Does anyone have experience with Thinkmate, and in particular, the  
VSX line? If the later, is it really quiet. I run Centos on four  
machines now, three of which are Dells, and I'm hoping to do  
better. The Dell T5400 is close to what I want, but I get more for  
less from Thinkpad -- at least on paper.


No experience with Thinkmate, or, knowledge of them, but 4 of the 5  
computers in this room are Dell's. If Thinkmate is a long  
established company, with an excellent reputation, buy from them. If  
not, Dell will be around, to support your T5400, for a long time.





Indeed.
But before I spent that much money on a PC, I'd want to *see* it and  
hear it. In reality.

Anybody can claim to manufacture a virtually silent workstation.

Too bad, Apple is the only vendor that has stores and all models on  
display (at least, for desktops - but for a server, noise isn't  
relevant anyway).


How much is the price difference actually?




Rainer

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[CentOS] Problems making custom isolinux.cfg

2008-09-04 Thread treed
I have added a few custom RPM's to my CentOS 5.2 CD, dropped a
kickstart.cfg file in the root of the CD, and now want to change the
isolinux.cfg in the boot.iso so that it will automatically do a kickstart
install when the CD boots up.

I am using buildinstall to make the ISO. I edited the isolinux.cfg in
/isolinux in my CentOS 5.2 distribution tree off of which I am building my
ISO. 

But after buildinstall runs the isolinux.cfg is changed back! 

Where is it getting the original from? Where should I be changing it to
get my modified isolinux.cfg into my cd?

Just to get around the isolinux.cfg issue manually I tried booting and at
the prompt I say:

linux ks=cdrom:/kickstart.cfg

But it says that it cannot find the kickstart.cfg file. Is it expecting it
in the root of the boot.iso or of the CD? I put it in the root of the CD.
I can mount the CD and see that it is there. I can't figure out how to put
it in the root of the boot.iso (if it even needs to go there) because
apparently that is getting remade by the buildinstall also and I'm not
sure where it is getting the contents from.

Here is the entire process I use for building and burning the ISO:

/usr/lib/anaconda-runtime/buildinstall --version 5 --product CentOS --comps
/var/www/html/centos/5.2/os/x86_64/repodata/comps.xml --release MyCentOS-5
--prodpath CentOS /var/www/html/centos/5.2/os/x86_64

mkisofs -R -J -T -r  -l -d -allow-multidot -allow-leading-dots -no-bak
-o /var/www/html/centos/5.2/isos/MyCentOS-5.2-x86_64.iso
-b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot
-boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table /var/www/html/centos/5.2/os/x86_64/

cdrecord blank=fast -dev=/dev/sg1 -v -eject 
/var/www/html/centos/5.2/isos/MyCentOS-5.2-x86_64.iso

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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[CentOS] OT Spammer Mark Kabore on this list

2008-09-04 Thread josh donovan
Hi folks,

A spammer is getting email addresses from the mailing list and sending people 
an email saying he needs help. This is the classic advance free fraud.

This is what he says in broken english - I need your urgently assistance in 
transferring the sum of $39.5)million to your account. This fund belongs to our 
decease costumer who died along with his Family in air crash. Contacts me for 
more details.

Thanks,
Josh.




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Re: [CentOS] kickstart debug

2008-09-04 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Jerry Geis wrote:
 How do you go about debugging the kickstart file?

By trying stuff, reading documentation or doing research. You know, community 
is about give and take and not only taking. I've yet to see *ONE* answer from
you, it's always just ask, ask, ask, even with stuff which can easily be
solved by searching on google.

Sheesh,

Ralph

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Re: [CentOS] OT Spammer Mark Kabore on this list

2008-09-04 Thread Ned Slider

josh donovan wrote:

Hi folks,

A spammer is getting email addresses from the mailing list and sending people 
an email saying he needs help. This is the classic advance free fraud.

This is what he says in broken english - I need your urgently assistance in 
transferring the sum of $39.5)million to your account. This fund belongs to our decease 
costumer who died along with his Family in air crash. Contacts me for more details.

Thanks,
Josh.




Now if it were $40 million I might be interested but I'm not getting out 
of bed for less!


Thanks for the heads up - some yummy spam fodder for my baysian rules :D

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RE: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread William L. Maltby
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 15:34 -0400, Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
 Mike McCarty wrote:
 snip

  May I suggest that, if you really want to learn how a Linux
  system gets put together, and works, then get a copy of
  Linux from Scratch and build your own?
  
  http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
  
 
 Well for a newbie that might be too much to start with.

Actually, it's better than one might think for a noob aspiring to become
more knowledgeable.

1. Brief discussions of why most things are done: gives insight to
underlying components.

2. IIRC, every command is laid out in form useful for CP, allowing
focus on discussions, not on handling a keyboard.

3. If you have natural curiosity to learn, introduces a bunch of little
frequently used utils of which a noob might be ignorant.

4. Gets a good overview of bash introduced.

5. Has *lots* of follow-on possibilities: BLFS, CLFS, ... that continue
to expand on the base knowledge.

6. Likely to severely test the mettle and commitment of those who are
just wannabe icons to those around them.

7. Makes them really, really appreciate an enterprise distro like CentOS
with its yum, rpm package management, broader support network in the
community, ... I could go on.

8. (The best one yet?) Gets them at least some basic knowledge before
they appear on lists like this with no knowledge, high ambition and tons
of the most basic questions. Keeps them busy for awhile too!  :)

 
 I'd probably go, CentOS/RHEL/Suse - Gentoo, then if you know the
 parts of a working distro well, then try to roll your own.

That's a natural since LFS requires an existing base installation to do
LFS. Ubuntu is missing gawk though (has mawk?) and generally needs to be
enhanced a tad to finish the LFS install. Another day for the noob,
another plus! ;-)

 
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Re: [CentOS] Compiling v6tun from KAME

2008-09-04 Thread Rob Townley
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Robert Moskowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 I need vtun working over IPv6.  The version from rpmforge does not seem to
 support IPv6 (binds to 0.0.0.0:5000 if I specify binding to the interface,
 and won't let me put in an IPv6 address for address binding).

 So I was pointed to the KAME (which does not provide any FC/RHEL support.
  The person who sent me there provided a makefile that he said works on
 Linux, but did not work for me:

 Makefile from KAME:

 install_dir = /usr/local/v6/bin

 v6tun: v6tun.o
cc -o $@ $

 install: v6tun
-rm -f $(install_dir)/v6tun
install -c -o root -g wheel -m 04710 v6tun $(install_dir)

 clean:


-rm -f *.o v6tun


 Makefile from contact:

 v6tun: v6tun.o

   gcc v6tun.c v6tun.h -o v6tun

 install: v6tun

   -rm -f $(install_dir)/v6tun

   install -c -o root -g wheel -m 04710 v6tun $(install_dir)

 clean: 6tun: v6tun.o-rm -f *.o v6tun

   gcc v6tun.c v6tun.h -o v6tun install: v6tun

^
Looks like part of the file is repeated.  ^^ and further down



   -rm -f $(install_dir)/v6tun

   install -c -o root -g wheel -m 04710 v6tun $(install_dir) clean:

^^
needs a line break



   -rm -f *.o v6tun

 I changed the install_dir to /usr/local/bin

 I had put the makefile, v6tun.c,  v6tun.h in /root/v6tun and as root
 issued make install.  I got the following error:

 Makefile:10: *** target pattern contains no '%'. Stop.


 What is missing to get this compiled?




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Re: [CentOS] Configuring an Intel 3945 wireless card: partial success

2008-09-04 Thread Rob Townley
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Niki Kovacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mogens Kjaer a écrit :


 Take a close look at what gets logged into /var/log/messages


 Sorry couldn't try this out earlier, as my wife went away for a few days
 with the laptop.

 Anyway, here goes. To try it out, I stopped the 'network' service and
 started 'NetworkManager' as well as 'NetworkManagerDispatcher'. Laptop was
 not connected to any Ethernet cable. My home access point showed up (essid
 'zuhause', no encryption). I clicked on it to try to establish a connection:

 --8
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] init.d]# tail -f /var/log/messages
 Sep  3 16:32:39 nordinou NetworkManager: information  User Switch:
 /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Devices/eth1 / zuhause
 Sep  3 16:32:39 nordinou NetworkManager: information  Deactivating device
 eth1.
 Sep  3 16:32:39 nordinou dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found
 under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth1 for sub-path eth1.dbus.get.reason
 Sep  3 16:32:39 nordinou NetworkManager: information  Device eth1
 activation scheduled...
 Sep  3 16:32:39 nordinou NetworkManager: information  Activation (eth1)
 started...
 Sep  3 16:32:39 nordinou NetworkManager: information  Activation (eth1)
 Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled...
 Sep  3 16:32:39 nordinou NetworkManager: information  Activation (eth1)
 Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) started...
 Sep  3 16:32:39 nordinou NetworkManager: information  Activation (eth1)
 Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) scheduled...
 Sep  3 16:32:39 nordinou NetworkManager: information  Activation (eth1)
 Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) complete.
 Sep  3 16:32:39 nordinou NetworkManager: information  Activation (eth1)
 Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) starting...
 Sep  3 16:32:39 nordinou NetworkManager: information  Activation
 (eth1/wireless): access point 'zuhause' is unencrypted, no key needed.
 Sep  3 16:32:39 nordinou NetworkManager: information  SUP: sending
 command 'INTERFACE_ADD eth1wext /var/run/wpa_supplicant
   '
 Sep  3 16:32:39 nordinou NetworkManager: information  SUP: response was
 'OK'
 Sep  3 16:32:39 nordinou NetworkManager: information  SUP: sending
 command 'AP_SCAN 1'
 Sep  3 16:32:39 nordinou NetworkManager: information  SUP: response was
 'OK'
 Sep  3 16:32:39 nordinou NetworkManager: information  SUP: sending
 command 'ADD_NETWORK'
 Sep  3 16:32:39 nordinou NetworkManager: information  SUP: response was
 '0'
 Sep  3 16:32:39 nordinou NetworkManager: information  SUP: sending
 command 'SET_NETWORK 0 ssid 7a756861757365'
 Sep  3 16:32:39 nordinou NetworkManager: information  SUP: response was
 'OK'
 Sep  3 16:32:39 nordinou NetworkManager: information  SUP: sending
 command 'SET_NETWORK 0 key_mgmt NONE'
 Sep  3 16:32:39 nordinou NetworkManager: information  SUP: response was
 'OK'
 Sep  3 16:32:39 nordinou NetworkManager: information  SUP: sending
 command 'ENABLE_NETWORK 0'


Enabling something with a value of zero looks suspicious to me



 Sep  3 16:32:39 nordinou NetworkManager: information  SUP: response was
 'OK'
 Sep  3 16:32:39 nordinou NetworkManager: information  Activation (eth1)
 Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) complete.
 Sep  3 16:33:19 nordinou NetworkManager: information  Activation
 (eth1/wireless): association took too long (40s), failing activation.
 Sep  3 16:33:19 nordinou NetworkManager: information  Activation (eth1)
 failure scheduled...
 Sep  3 16:33:19 nordinou NetworkManager: information  Activation (eth1)
 failed for access point (zuhause)
 Sep  3 16:33:19 nordinou NetworkManager: information  Activation (eth1)
 failed.
 Sep  3 16:33:19 nordinou NetworkManager: information  Deactivating device
 eth1.
 --8

 Now I was curious about this, so I tried it on another machine, my
 Buildbox, that also has a wireless card. Similar failure:

 --8
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# tail -f /var/log/messages
 Sep  3 16:35:52 buildbox dhcdbd: Started up.
 Sep  3 16:35:53 buildbox NetworkManager: information  starting...
 Sep  3 16:35:53 buildbox NetworkManager: WARNING
 nm_system_device_get_system_config (): Network configuration for device
 'wlan0' was invalid (non-DHCP configuration, but no gateway specified. Will
 use DHCP instead.
 Sep  3 16:35:53 buildbox NetworkManager: information  wlan0: Device is
 fully-supported using driver 'rt61'.
 Sep  3 16:35:53 buildbox NetworkManager: information  wlan0: driver does
 not support SSID scans (scan_capa 0x00).
 Sep  3 16:35:53 buildbox NetworkManager: information nm_device_init():
 waiting for device's worker thread to start
 Sep  3 16:35:53 buildbox NetworkManager: information nm_device_init():
 device's worker thread started, continuing.
 Sep  3 16:35:53 buildbox NetworkManager: information  Now managing
 wireless (802.11) device 'wlan0'.
 Sep  3 16:35:53 buildbox NetworkManager: information  

Re: [CentOS] OT Spammer Mark Kabore on this list

2008-09-04 Thread Lanny Marcus

josh donovan wrote:

Hi folks,

A spammer is getting email addresses from the mailing list and sending people 
an email saying he needs help. This is the classic advance free fraud.

This is what he says in broken english - I need your urgently assistance in 
transferring the sum of $39.5)million to your account. This fund belongs to our decease 
costumer who died along with his Family in air crash. Contacts me for more details.


Not the only spammer sending SPAM to my new email address for this 
mailing list. Gmail caught this one awhile ago:



You have been approved for payment the sum of ?1,000,000:00 (One
Million Great British Pounds)


Like everyone else on the list, we could use the $
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Re: [CentOS] OT: workstation recommends: Thinkmate?

2008-09-04 Thread Barry Olddog
- Original Message 

 From: Rainer Duffner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2008 4:49:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: workstation recommends: Thinkmate?
 
 
 Am 04.09.2008 um 21:36 schrieb Lanny Marcus:
 
  Barry Olddog wrote:
  I'm looking to buy a new workstation, and it looks like Thinkmate  
  makes what I need -- their vsx virtually silent variety. I  
  hestitate because I  wasn't happy with a laptop I bought a few  
  years ago from a small outfit that sold Linux boxes exclusively.  
  Does anyone have experience with Thinkmate, and in particular, the  
  VSX line? If the later, is it really quiet. I run Centos on four  
  machines now, three of which are Dells, and I'm hoping to do  
  better. The Dell T5400 is close to what I want, but I get more for  
  less from Thinkpad -- at least on paper.
 
  No experience with Thinkmate, or, knowledge of them, but 4 of the 5  
  computers in this room are Dell's. If Thinkmate is a long  
  established company, with an excellent reputation, buy from them. If  
  not, Dell will be around, to support your T5400, for a long time.
 
 
 
 Indeed.
 But before I spent that much money on a PC, I'd want to *see* it and  
 hear it. In reality.
 Anybody can claim to manufacture a virtually silent workstation.
 
 Too bad, Apple is the only vendor that has stores and all models on  
 display (at least, for desktops - but for a server, noise isn't  
 relevant anyway).
 
 How much is the price difference actually?
 
 
 Rainer

The difference is about $1,000 -- 25% more for the Dell -- but the machines are 
not exactly the same.

Thinkmate is opteron, and the Dell, xeon -- which some would say is a factor in 
Dell's favor;
Dell includes a RH subscription whether you want it or not;
Dell has three hard drives (the max), Thinkmate four.
With the Dell, the memory comes from Crucial, which means there's a waste of 
two small modules; Thinkmate sells memory at a reasonable price (I'm figuring 
32 gigs).

The HP xw9400 is closer to the Thinkmate, but an extra $200 to $300, with 
memory from Crucial.

I'm just leery of a maker that I don't know; I searched for reviews and 
comments, but found almost nothing. Maybe that's telling me something.

Barry


  

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[CentOS] Centos 5 card reader automount

2008-09-04 Thread Frank Cox
To this point, whenever I've plugged a storage device (flash drive, mp3 player)
into a USB plug, it's magically mounted and I get an icon on my desktop.

I've just got a card reader and it doesn't automount.  I can mount it
manually with mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/temp and that works fine.

I would prefer to have it automount and give me the desktop icon.
Unfortunately, I don't yet know enough about the automounting mechanism to know
what I need to change to make this happen.

Here is the relevant portion of /var/log/messages when I plug in the card
reader:

Sep  4 16:31:11 bargainhunter kernel: usb 7-6: new high speed USB device using e
hci_hcd and address 12
Sep  4 16:31:11 bargainhunter kernel: usb 7-6: configuration #1 chosen from 1 ch
oice
Sep  4 16:31:11 bargainhunter kernel: scsi11 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Stora
ge devices
Sep  4 16:31:16 bargainhunter kernel:   Vendor: Generic   Model: USB SD Reader  
   Rev: 1.00
Sep  4 16:31:16 bargainhunter kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access   
   ANSI SCSI revision: 00
Sep  4 16:31:16 bargainhunter kernel: SCSI device sdb: 3901440 512-byte hdwr sec
tors (1998 MB)
Sep  4 16:31:16 bargainhunter kernel: sdb: Write Protect is off
Sep  4 16:31:16 bargainhunter kernel: sdb: assuming drive cache: write through
Sep  4 16:31:16 bargainhunter kernel: SCSI device sdb: 3901440 512-byte hdwr sec
tors (1998 MB)
Sep  4 16:31:16 bargainhunter kernel: sdb: Write Protect is off
Sep  4 16:31:16 bargainhunter kernel: sdb: assuming drive cache: write through
Sep  4 16:31:16 bargainhunter kernel:  sdb: sdb1
Sep  4 16:31:16 bargainhunter kernel: sd 11:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk 
sdb
Sep  4 16:31:16 bargainhunter kernel: sd 11:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 typ
e 0
Sep  4 16:31:16 bargainhunter kernel:   Vendor: Generic   Model: USB CF Reader  
   Rev: 1.01
Sep  4 16:31:16 bargainhunter kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access   
   ANSI SCSI revision: 00
Sep  4 16:31:16 bargainhunter kernel: sd 11:0:0:1: Attached scsi removable disk 
sdc
Sep  4 16:31:16 bargainhunter kernel: sd 11:0:0:1: Attached scsi generic sg3 typ
e 0
Sep  4 16:31:16 bargainhunter kernel:   Vendor: Generic   Model: USB SM Reader  
   Rev: 1.02
Sep  4 16:31:16 bargainhunter kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access   
   ANSI SCSI revision: 00
Sep  4 16:31:16 bargainhunter kernel: sd 11:0:0:2: Attached scsi removable disk 
sdd
Sep  4 16:31:16 bargainhunter kernel: sd 11:0:0:2: Attached scsi generic sg4 typ
e 0
Sep  4 16:31:16 bargainhunter kernel:   Vendor: Generic   Model: USB MS Reader  
   Rev: 1.03
Sep  4 16:31:16 bargainhunter kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access   
   ANSI SCSI revision: 00
Sep  4 16:31:16 bargainhunter kernel: sd 11:0:0:3: Attached scsi removable disk 
sde
Sep  4 16:31:16 bargainhunter kernel: sd 11:0:0:3: Attached scsi generic sg5 typ
e 0

Again, it works fine if I use a mount command to mount it myself.  How can I
get it to automount and give me the desktop icon?

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Re: [CentOS] OT Spammer Mark Kabore on this list

2008-09-04 Thread MHR
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Lanny Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Like everyone else on the list, we could use the $


The way things are going, I'd rather have the €'s, preferably in the
50s of millions

(Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah - waaah!)

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Re: [CentOS] OT: workstation recommends: Thinkmate?

2008-09-04 Thread MHR
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Barry Olddog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm just leery of a maker that I don't know; I searched for reviews and 
 comments, but found almost nothing. Maybe that's telling me something.


Isn't Thinkmate a spinoff of IBM?  Or am I confused by the
Thinkpad/Thinkstation/whatever terminology?

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5 card reader automount

2008-09-04 Thread MHR
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Frank Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 To this point, whenever I've plugged a storage device (flash drive, mp3 
 player)
 into a USB plug, it's magically mounted and I get an icon on my desktop.

 I've just got a card reader and it doesn't automount.  I can mount it
 manually with mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/temp and that works fine.


I believe that a card reader is not a storage device per se and,
hence, does not mount until you connect it with a card plugged into it
or plug a card into it.  I've never used mine any other way, and it
always works just fine.

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Re: [CentOS] OT: workstation recommends: Thinkmate?

2008-09-04 Thread Rainer Duffner


Am 05.09.2008 um 01:02 schrieb Barry Olddog:


- Original Message 


From: Rainer Duffner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2008 4:49:02 PM
Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: workstation recommends: Thinkmate?


Am 04.09.2008 um 21:36 schrieb Lanny Marcus:


Barry Olddog wrote:

I'm looking to buy a new workstation, and it looks like Thinkmate
makes what I need -- their vsx virtually silent variety. I
hestitate because I  wasn't happy with a laptop I bought a few
years ago from a small outfit that sold Linux boxes exclusively.
Does anyone have experience with Thinkmate, and in particular, the
VSX line? If the later, is it really quiet. I run Centos on four
machines now, three of which are Dells, and I'm hoping to do
better. The Dell T5400 is close to what I want, but I get more for
less from Thinkpad -- at least on paper.


No experience with Thinkmate, or, knowledge of them, but 4 of the 5
computers in this room are Dell's. If Thinkmate is a long
established company, with an excellent reputation, buy from them. If
not, Dell will be around, to support your T5400, for a long time.




Indeed.
But before I spent that much money on a PC, I'd want to *see* it and
hear it. In reality.
Anybody can claim to manufacture a virtually silent workstation.

Too bad, Apple is the only vendor that has stores and all models on
display (at least, for desktops - but for a server, noise isn't
relevant anyway).

How much is the price difference actually?


Rainer


The difference is about $1,000 -- 25% more for the Dell -- but the  
machines are not exactly the same.


Thinkmate is opteron, and the Dell, xeon -- which some would say is  
a factor in Dell's favor;

Dell includes a RH subscription whether you want it or not;
Dell has three hard drives (the max), Thinkmate four.
With the Dell, the memory comes from Crucial, which means there's a  
waste of two small modules; Thinkmate sells memory at a reasonable  
price (I'm figuring 32 gigs).


The HP xw9400 is closer to the Thinkmate, but an extra $200 to $300,  
with memory from Crucial.




If HP is an option, I'd go for HP. I've never seen an XW9400  
personally, but I'd trust HP on this one.
If you don't go for Quad-Core, you can pick up cheap(er) DC XW9400s on  
ebay.






I'm just leery of a maker that I don't know; I searched for reviews  
and comments, but found almost nothing. Maybe that's telling me  
something.



Thinkmate claims an impressive customer-list. However, they don't say  
what each of the companies bought. Could be case-screws, but also a  
train-waggon full of workstations.

I'd ask if they have them on display somewhere ;-)



Rainer



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Re: [CentOS] OT: workstation recommends: Thinkmate?

2008-09-04 Thread John R Pierce

MHR wrote:

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Barry Olddog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I'm just leery of a maker that I don't know; I searched for reviews and 
comments, but found almost nothing. Maybe that's telling me something.




Isn't Thinkmate a spinoff of IBM?  Or am I confused by the
Thinkpad/Thinkstation/whatever terminology?
  



it appears (googled it) Thinkmate is a small 'whitebox' server 
integrator in Massachussetts, until recently known as SAG Electronics.





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Re: [CentOS] OT: workstation recommends: Thinkmate?

2008-09-04 Thread Rainer Duffner


Am 05.09.2008 um 01:47 schrieb MHR:

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Barry Olddog [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:


I'm just leery of a maker that I don't know; I searched for reviews  
and comments, but found almost nothing. Maybe that's telling me  
something.




Isn't Thinkmate a spinoff of IBM?  Or am I confused by the
Thinkpad/Thinkstation/whatever terminology?



Honi soit qui mal y pense
;-)


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[CentOS] Kernel panic installing CentOS 5.2 in Parallels on iMac

2008-09-04 Thread Bart Schaefer
I'm unable to get much past the boot: prompt in the installer.  The
panic appears to be in powernowk8_init which according to
http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2008-0612.html has a recently-fixed
null-pointer dereference.  That errata is from August 4; the latest
CentOS install ISOs are from June.

I tried the agp=off suggestion from e.g.
http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=13512 with
no success.

Is there a good way to proceed here?  Will there be new install media
with the more recent kernel?
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Re: [CentOS] mysql

2008-09-04 Thread Alessandro Ren

| John R Pierce wrote:

Mad Unix wrote:
I need to replicate MySQL DB of mulltiple server on SiteA to my 
DR-Site Site_B... all DB

are alocated on RHEL,SuSE,Centos,Debian, FreeBSD servers.
I need a script to take Multiple MySql DataBase Backup and then 
import to SiteB, the replica

can be done as cold or hotbackup and cron it


thats nice.   sounds like a reasonable task to undertake.

do you have a question?


   Maybe  man magic script  woudl work...

   []s.


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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5 card reader automount

2008-09-04 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:50:08 -0700
MHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I believe that a card reader is not a storage device per se and,
 hence, does not mount until you connect it with a card plugged into it
 or plug a card into it.  I've never used mine any other way, and it
 always works just fine.

I have plugged it in with a card already in the reader.  As previously stated, I
can then mount it manually and read the contents of the card.

If I remove and re-insert the card into the reader, nothing appears to happen.
At least, no entries are created in /var/log/messages.

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[CentOS] buildinstall cannot find modules

2008-09-04 Thread treed
When using buildinstall and CentOS 5.2 to create my own CD minus a bunch
of unneeded RPM's and plus a few of my custom RPM's I find that the
install CD that gets build does not install an initrd which renders the
system unbootable.  I also notice that when I run buildinstall with the
-debug option it says:

unpacking
/var/www/html/centos/5.2/os/x86_64/CentOS/kernel-2.6.18-92.el5.x86_64.rpm.x86_64
Building initrd.img
Module 3c501 not found in kernel rpm
Module 3c503 not found in kernel rpm
Module 3c505 not found in kernel rpm

and so on for many kernel modules. I notice that the filename it says it
is unpacking ends with .x86_64.rpm.x86_64. Is that normal? I google'd and
found someone else saying theirs did the same thing. Could this be related
to why I'm not ending up with an initrd being installed?

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