[CentOS-docs] policy w.r.t Testing repo details on wiki articles

2008-09-13 Thread R P Herrold

On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, Karanbir Singh wrote:

Do we have a policy w.r.t adding details about packages in 
the testing repo on the wiki ?


(sad but true mode answer) add a ! and tell them in a red box:
1.  chime in as to results
2.  do not rely on systematic security AT ALL on these
archives.
3.  add an outline to the page mentioend in a moment.

Imho that is wrong and encourages the sort of behavior that 
we want to stop - people using the testing repo without 
feedback and casual users moving to the testing repo.


I think the important thing to keep in mind is - packages in 
the testing repo are NOT maintained, and even if they have 
security issues or bugs, little or no effort would be made 
to fix or patch those.


well stated.  Should be in every Release Note as well

4.  add a master wiki page to this effect?

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Re: [CentOS-docs] policy w.r.t Testing repo details on wiki articles

2008-09-13 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 2:53 PM, R P Herrold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, Karanbir Singh wrote:

 Do we have a policy w.r.t adding details about packages in the testing
 repo on the wiki ?

 (sad but true mode answer) add a ! and tell them in a red box:
1.  chime in as to results
2.  do not rely on systematic security AT ALL on these
archives.
3.  add an outline to the page mentioend in a moment.

Just added an anchor to the CentOS Testing repo section of the
Repositories wiki article.  This link:

 http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories#Testing_repo

can/should be added whenever the testing repo was referred to in a wiki page.

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[CentOS-announce] CentOS 4.7 is released for i386 and x86_64

2008-09-13 Thread Johnny Hughes

The CentOS development team is pleased to announce the release of CentOS
4.7 for i386 and x86_64.

It is available on all CentOS.org mirrors and via bittorrent, see this
link to download ISOs:

http://isoredirect.centos.org/centos/4.7/isos/

This release corresponds to the upstream vendor U7 release.  Also
released in the updates repository for CentOS-4.7 are all updates
through September 12th, 2008.

Work for the i386 and x86_64 ServerCDs and for the ia64, s390 and s390x 
architectures is in progress.


If you are currently using an older CentOS-4 version, using this command 
will upgrade you to CentOS-4.7:


yum upgrade


Major changes for this version are:

 * Password hashing using the SHA-256 and SHA-512 hash functions is now
supported.

 * This update implements the use of paravirtualized block device and
network drivers, which improve the performance of fully-virtualized
guests.

 * There is a technology preview of OpenOffice-2.0 included in the
updates directory.  You can install this OOo2 preview alongside the
current OOo-1.1.5 version, or you may install the OOo2 preview alone.
We apologize that this was not included on the ISOs, however it was not
on the upstream ISOs and we followed that layout.  To List the new
OpenOffice-2.0 RPMS with yum use this command:

   yum search openoffice.org2 | grep i386 | grep -v langpack

   For finding Language Packs (if you want other than English) do:

   yum search openoffice.org2 | grep langpack

   Use yum install pkg_name1 pkg_name2 to install the packages
that you want, or yum info pkg_name1 pkg_name2 to obtain more
information about them.

 * The divider=[value] option is a kernel command-line parameter that
allows you to adjust the system clock rate while maintaining the same
visible HZ timing value to user space applications.

 * Firefox is now rebased to version 3.0.x.

For these and other changes, please see the CentOS specific release 
notes here:

http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS4.7

and the detailed upstream release notes here (and in the /NOTES 
directory on your install media):

http://www.centos.org/docs/4/html/release-notes/as-x86/RELEASE-NOTES-U7-en.html

CentOS-4 Documentation is here:
http://www.centos.org/docs/4/

All previous released CentOS versions are available at:
http://vault.centos.org/

To stay current with CentOS:

Visit our website at http://www.centos.org/

Join the CentOS mailing list at:
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

HowTos and other items on the wiki:
http://wiki.centos.org/

Join various team members on IRC at irc.freenode.net #centos

Note: It may take a couple days for some of the external mirrors to
catch up.


Enjoy,

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[CentOS-es] help

2008-09-13 Thread Richard Tonato

Saludos, favor su ayuda
Soy un novato, instale trixbox un un maquina hp pavilion pc, 3800+ 64  
con tarjeta de red integrada, tengo dos problemas:
1.- configuro la tarjeta de red y cuando apago la maquina se borra la  
configuración, en virtual machine no sucede
2.-necesita configurar lineas sip VoIP para realizar las llamadas y  
también asociar cada linea telefónica a una extensión

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[CentOS-es] liberado centos-4.7

2008-09-13 Thread Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez

Hola, ha salido un nuevo respin de CentOS-4, la versión CentOS-4.7

A continuación copia del mail enviado por CentOS:


El equipo de desarrollo de CentOS se complace en anunciar la salida de 
la versión de CentOS

4.7 para i386 y x86_64.

Está disponible en todos los mirrors de CentOS.org y via bittorrent, vea 
este enlace para bajar los ISOs:


http://isoredirect.centos.org/centos/4.7/isos/

Este release se corresponte al release U7 del proveedor. Además incluye 
todas las actualizaciones hasta Septiembre 12 del 2008.


El ServerCD para i386 y x86_64 y para las arquitecturas ia64, s390 y 
s390x está en estos momentos siendo realizado.


Si usted está usando una versión anterior de CentOS-4, puede 
actualizarla ejecutando:


yum upgrade


Los cambios principales para esta versión son:

* Se soporta password hashing usando SHA-256 y SHA-512

* Se implementa el uso de dispositivos paravirtualizados de bloques y 
red para mejorar el desempeño de invitados virtualizados.


* La opción divider=[valor] es un parámetro de linea de comando que te 
permite ajustar la tasa del reloj del sistema mientras se mantiene el 
mismo valor de tiempo en Hz para las aplicaciones de usuario.


* Firefox está basado en la versión 3.0.x.

Para otros cambios, por favor vea las notas en:
http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS4.7

La documentación de CentOS puede ser encontrada aqui:
http://www.centos.org/docs/4/

Las versiones anteriores de CentOS pueden ser encontradas aqui:
http://vault.centos.org/


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[CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread Niki Kovacs

Hi,

I recently made a CentOS install on a machine with an unsupported 
network card. I had to add the driver for it later, once I finished the 
install. For now I have this:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ hostname --fqdn
localhost.localdomain

Q: how would I change this to something like calimero.local?

Here's what I *would* do, but I prefer to ask before.

1) edit /etc/sysconfig/network and edit this line:

HOSTNAME=calimero.local

2) add a line to /etc/hosts like this:

# Do not remove the following line, or various programs
# that require network functionality will fail.
127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain   localhost
127.0.0.1   calimero.local  calimero
::1 localhost6.localdomain6 localhost6

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

cheers,

Niki Kovacs
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Re: [CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread kapil singh
Hello,

you can do it  from here.
go through System  Network  Hosts

edit host name from here.

all things you have done till now are correct.


On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Niki Kovacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 I recently made a CentOS install on a machine with an unsupported network
 card. I had to add the driver for it later, once I finished the install. For
 now I have this:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ hostname --fqdn
 localhost.localdomain

 Q: how would I change this to something like calimero.local?

 Here's what I *would* do, but I prefer to ask before.

 1) edit /etc/sysconfig/network and edit this line:

 HOSTNAME=calimero.local

 2) add a line to /etc/hosts like this:

 # Do not remove the following line, or various programs
 # that require network functionality will fail.
 127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain   localhost
 127.0.0.1   calimero.local  calimero
 ::1 localhost6.localdomain6 localhost6

 Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread John R Pierce

kapil singh wrote:

Hello,

you can do it  from here.
go through System  Network  Hosts

edit host name from here.


or, edit /etc/sysconfig/network and set 

   HOSTNAME=whateverfqdn.com 

since I never even start any GUI on my servers, I find this much more 
useful.



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Re: [CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread Marcus Moeller
Dear Niki.

 2) add a line to /etc/hosts like this:

 # Do not remove the following line, or various programs
 # that require network functionality will fail.
 127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain   localhost
 127.0.0.1   calimero.local  calimero
 ::1 localhost6.localdomain6 localhost6

It should look like this:

127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomainlocalhost   calimero.localcalimero

Best Regards
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Re: [CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread Niki Kovacs

Marcus Moeller a écrit :



2) add a line to /etc/hosts like this:



# Do not remove the following line, or various programs
# that require network functionality will fail.
127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain   localhost
127.0.0.1   calimero.local  calimero
::1 localhost6.localdomain6 localhost6


It should look like this:

127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomainlocalhost   calimero.localcalimero

I've been considering both syntaxes, and I wonder (with the 
scrupulousness of a medieval theologist) if there's any difference 
between them. And if so, what are the consequences?


Niki
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Re: [CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread Niki Kovacs

Marcus Moeller a écrit :


It should look like this:

127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomainlocalhost   calimero.localcalimero



When I do this, I get the following result (after rebooting):

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ hostname
calimero.local
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ hostname --fqdn
localhost.localdomain

This looks weird to me.

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Re: [CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread Niki Kovacs

Marcus Moeller a écrit :


It should look like this:

127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomainlocalhost   calimero.localcalimero



I slightly altered it:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ cat /etc/hosts
# Do not remove the following line, or various programs
# that require network functionality will fail.
127.0.0.1   calimero.local calimero localhost.localdomain localhost

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ hostname
calimero.local
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ hostname --fqdn
calimero.local

Wouldn't this be more correct?
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Re: [CentOS] question on sending mail with 5.2

2008-09-13 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Luke S Crawford wrote:
 considering just how many people use greylisting, this is likely a 
 bad idea.Greylisting works by rejecting the first message from a new
 server with a 4xx (temporary) error code.   If the server tries again
 immediately or never tries again, it's probably a spammer.  If the server
 waits a reasonable period of time (say, 30 minutes) and then re-sends the
 mail,  it's probably legit, and the greylist program puts that server on the 
 whitelist so mail from that server goes through right away next time.
 
 Many people set things up such that if you try again immediately, you get
 put on a blacklist, as you are probably a spammer.  

I really don't understand why people just don't turn off their mailservers if 
they 
don't want mail from others.

Ralph

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Re: [CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread Marcus Moeller
Dear Niki.

 It should look like this:

 127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomainlocalhost   calimero.local
  calimero


 I slightly altered it:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ cat /etc/hosts
 # Do not remove the following line, or various programs
 # that require network functionality will fail.
 127.0.0.1   calimero.local calimero localhost.localdomain localhost

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ hostname
 calimero.local
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ hostname --fqdn
 calimero.local

 Wouldn't this be more correct?

This is hard to decide.

From Slackwares /etc/hosts:
...
# By the way, Arnt Gulbrandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] says that 127.0.0.1
# should NEVER be named with the name of the machine.  It causes
problems for some (stupid) programs, irc and reputedly talk.
...

From: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/10/msg00387.html it
should be set to:

127.0.0.1   localhostlocalhost.localdomain   calimero
 calimero.local

Best Regards
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Re: [CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread admin
It's worth checking that /etc/sysconfig/network also has whatever 
hostname you wish to use configured in it.


To effect changes, it may be necessary to restart the network:

service network restart

Mick

Niki Kovacs wrote:

Marcus Moeller a écrit :


It should look like this:

127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomainlocalhost   calimero.local
calimero




I slightly altered it:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ cat /etc/hosts
# Do not remove the following line, or various programs
# that require network functionality will fail.
127.0.0.1   calimero.local calimero localhost.localdomain localhost

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ hostname
calimero.local
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ hostname --fqdn
calimero.local

Wouldn't this be more correct?
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Re: [CentOS] Yum-updatesd

2008-09-13 Thread Josh Donovan
Bob Hoffman wrote:

 This is on, via the chkconfig and seems to run a lot.
 TO DO: auto update YUM for the computer once a day.
 Files: /etc/yum/yum-updatesd.conf
 Extra: send a mail or add to log file

Isn't that overkill for an enterprise distro? Subscribing
to the relevant mailing list should help shouldn't it? 
Not even considering the potential load on the CentOS 
servers, shouldn't an admin test updates without letting
yum auto-update? Updates do have issues too.

Thanks,
Josh.




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[CentOS] Newbies to CentOS List

2008-09-13 Thread Josh Donovan
Guidelines for CentOS Mailing List posts

* Mailing List Etiquette
* How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
* Quoting Style
* Why is Bottom-posting better than Top-posting

1. Please turn off HTML in your e-mail client for these mailing lists. 
We have several subscribers who read the list with text only readers 
and they can't easily read html formatted e-mails. There is a place 
(somewhere) for the flowery stationary and themes that some mail clients
 offer ... but this is not it. Again, please only post text e-mails to 
these mailing lists.

2. Please do not top post to the mailing list when replying to a post.
(See the Quoting Style link above, and use the Interleaved text method
, deleting non-applicable text as required. If you need to reply to a 
message, and you do not need to post in interleaved mode, please bottom 
post instead of top posting.

3. Please trim the extra stuff in the email and leave enough to make
 sense of the thread.

Note: There are places to debate the merits of top posting and how 
it might have some advantages in relation to Interleaved text or 
bottom posting ... but this is not one of those places.

Extracted from http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=16

I added no 3 above. I had not been on this mailing list or others for 
a while but I thought other newbies would benefit.

Thanks,
Josh.





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Re: [CentOS] Startup programs in specific workspaces

2008-09-13 Thread Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 18:50 -0700, MHR wrote:
 I have a specific method of using my five GNOME workspaces to perform
 certain categories of tasks when I log in on a machine, so I just had
 a thought.
 
 Is there a way to specify, say from a login script, for an application
 to start up in a particular workspace, preferably with a specific
 screen location?
 
 Or is this a gnome question?

It's a GNOME question, but the answer is Devil's Pie.

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Re: [CentOS] Startup programs in specific workspaces

2008-09-13 Thread William L. Maltby

On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 06:51 -0400, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
 On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 18:50 -0700, MHR wrote:
  I have a specific method of using my five GNOME workspaces to perform
  certain categories of tasks when I log in on a machine, so I just had
  a thought.
  
  Is there a way to specify, say from a login script, for an application
  to start up in a particular workspace, preferably with a specific
  screen location?

I just did a google (highly recommended for all initial thoughts  :-)
for gnome startup scripts. With a little refinement, it looks very
promising.
 
 snip

HTH
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Re: [CentOS] java yum problem

2008-09-13 Thread William L. Maltby

On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 01:10 -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
 Error: Missing Dependency: /usr/bin/rebuild-security-providers is needed
 by package java-1.4.2-gcj-compat
 
 I'm digging all over the place for this one. Has anyone a clue?? When I
 use:
 yum whatprovides /usr/bin/rebuild-security-providers it returns:
 jpackage-utils.noarch : JPackage utilities
 I've installed this from several sources. Nothing seems to provide the
 rebuild thing. I've used mc to looking inside the rpms I've found and
 none have it. So, I would guess something else does. Thanks, Ric

I don't know the answer, but I have a guess. I've noticed that often a
prerequisite is installed one place (maybe it changed from a former
location) and the dependent thinks it's elsewhere. The solution is often
a symlink (until the dependent gets caught up).

If you do an updatedb and then locate security-providers, you might
get lucky. If it turns out that it's really not on your system, the
google approach often yields clues to a solution.

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Re: [CentOS] Startup programs in specific workspaces

2008-09-13 Thread Ralph Angenendt
William L. Maltby wrote:
 I just did a google (highly recommended for all initial thoughts  :-)
 for gnome startup scripts. With a little refinement, it looks very
 promising.

What was wrong with the answer in the mail you replied to, but which you 
completely edited out?

Ralph

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[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 43, Issue 4

2008-09-13 Thread centos-announce-request
/RPMS/libxml2-devel-2.6.16-12.5.s390x.rpm
updates/s390x/RPMS/libxml2-python-2.6.16-12.5.s390x.rpm


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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 05:46:22 -0500
From: Johnny Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CentOS 4.7 is released for i386 and x86_64
To: CentOS-Announce [EMAIL PROTECTED],Ladislav Bodnar
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The CentOS development team is pleased to announce the release of CentOS
4.7 for i386 and x86_64.

It is available on all CentOS.org mirrors and via bittorrent, see this
link to download ISOs:

http://isoredirect.centos.org/centos/4.7/isos/

This release corresponds to the upstream vendor U7 release.  Also
released in the updates repository for CentOS-4.7 are all updates
through September 12th, 2008.

Work for the i386 and x86_64 ServerCDs and for the ia64, s390 and s390x 
architectures is in progress.

If you are currently using an older CentOS-4 version, using this command 
will upgrade you to CentOS-4.7:

yum upgrade


Major changes for this version are:

  * Password hashing using the SHA-256 and SHA-512 hash functions is now
supported.

  * This update implements the use of paravirtualized block device and
network drivers, which improve the performance of fully-virtualized
guests.

  * There is a technology preview of OpenOffice-2.0 included in the
updates directory.  You can install this OOo2 preview alongside the
current OOo-1.1.5 version, or you may install the OOo2 preview alone.
We apologize that this was not included on the ISOs, however it was not
on the upstream ISOs and we followed that layout.  To List the new
OpenOffice-2.0 RPMS with yum use this command:

yum search openoffice.org2 | grep i386 | grep -v langpack

For finding Language Packs (if you want other than English) do:

yum search openoffice.org2 | grep langpack

Use yum install pkg_name1 pkg_name2 to install the packages
that you want, or yum info pkg_name1 pkg_name2 to obtain more
information about them.

  * The divider=[value] option is a kernel command-line parameter that
allows you to adjust the system clock rate while maintaining the same
visible HZ timing value to user space applications.

  * Firefox is now rebased to version 3.0.x.

For these and other changes, please see the CentOS specific release 
notes here:
http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS4.7

and the detailed upstream release notes here (and in the /NOTES 
directory on your install media):
http://www.centos.org/docs/4/html/release-notes/as-x86/RELEASE-NOTES-U7-en.html

CentOS-4 Documentation is here:
http://www.centos.org/docs/4/

All previous released CentOS versions are available at:
http://vault.centos.org/

To stay current with CentOS:

Visit our website at http://www.centos.org/

Join the CentOS mailing list at:
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HowTos and other items on the wiki:
http://wiki.centos.org/

Join various team members on IRC at irc.freenode.net #centos

Note: It may take a couple days for some of the external mirrors to
catch up.


Enjoy,

The CentOS Development Team

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Re: [CentOS] Startup programs in specific workspaces

2008-09-13 Thread William L. Maltby

On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 13:37 +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 William L. Maltby wrote:
  I just did a google (highly recommended for all initial thoughts  :-)
  for gnome startup scripts. With a little refinement, it looks very
  promising.
 
 What was wrong with the answer in the mail you replied to, but which you 
 completely edited out?

Nothing. But, as has often been stated on this and other lists, the
first step in finding an answer is to expend a little effort on your
own. I think you have suggested this in the past. This is not the first
time I've seen questions about things like this (in various fora and on
various lists) so I thought a little reminder might be in order.

As to but which you completely edited out, again the standard
recommendation is to snip out things that are not needed for
understanding the context of the reply. IIRC, you have recommended this
in the past.

One thing that I prize on this list is the level of professionalism
engendered by consistency of philosophy, courtesy, espoused protocols,
gentle efforts to remind folks of these things, and also the willingness
of folks to give actual help and answers. The last item can lead to
*unintentional* abuse of that willingness.

 
 Ralph
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Re: [CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread nate
William L. Maltby wrote:

 HWADDR=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx  # I've masked out MAC address for this post

Out of curiosity why ? You are aware that someone knowing
your MAC address outside your local network is fairly
useless right?

I just find it funny how people tend to mask MAC/IP/host/domain
names. If your system is not secure, and is on the internet,
people on this list(and those scanning the archives etc) are
the least of your worries.

for reference, my IP addresses are

DSL Line(retiring after 8 years, ISP says they are changing
my IPs after they got bought out for the 3rd time since I've
been with them):
216.39.174.24, 216.39.174.25, 216.39.174.26, 216.39.174.27,

Personal co-location (just moved my services from DSL to
here in the past couple hours):
209.90.228.138, 209.90.228.139, 209.90.228.140, 209.90.228.141

and my cable modem IP is 24.16.137.131

MAC addresses:
(OpenBSD firewall protecting my Cable and DSL lines)
00:03:47:08:a9:fe 00:03:47:08:a9:ff 00:02:b3:be:82:cc 00:02:b3:be:82:cd
00:02:b3:be:86:f4 00:02:b3:be:86:f5

MACs for servers on my DSL
00:0F:1F:72:15:3F 00:04:23:C0:09:BC 00:04:23:C0:09:BD 00:0C:29:13:58:14

(Same MACs on the migrated systems at co-location, they are
virtual machines)

nate



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Re: [CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread William L. Maltby

On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 11:31 +0200, Niki Kovacs wrote:
 Marcus Moeller a écrit :
  
  It should look like this:
  
  127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomainlocalhost   calimero.local
  calimero
  
 
 When I do this, I get the following result (after rebooting):
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ hostname
 calimero.local
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ hostname --fqdn
 localhost.localdomain
 
 This looks weird to me.

IIRC, the 127.0.0.1 should normally have only the localhost thing.

$ cat /etc/hosts
# Do not remove the following line, or various programs
# that require network functionality will fail.
127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain   localhost
::1 localhost6.localdomain6 localhost6

That's all I have in that file.

$ hostname
centos501.homegroannetworking

$ hostname --fqdn
centos501.homegroannetworking

$ cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
# VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II]
DEVICE=eth0
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
HWADDR=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx  # I've masked out MAC address for this post
ONBOOT=yes
DHCP_HOSTNAME=CentOS501
TYPE=Ethernet
USERCTL=no
IPV6INIT=no
PEERDNS=yes

If you are not getting your address from a DHCP server, there are minor
differences.

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Re: [CentOS] Problem to run 4 virtual machines at a time.

2008-09-13 Thread nate
mallikarjun gudisagar wrote:
 Hi all

 I have installed  vyatta system, (vyatta-livecd-vc4-alpha2.iso ) on top of
 Centos5.

What is vyatta system? From a search the closest I can find is
some sort of software that provides routing functionality

http://www.vyatta.com/index.php

Is that it ?

 My problem is  i have installed  '4'  virtual machines.
 each virtual machine have 256Mb RAM.
 But i am not able to run 4 virtual machines at a time.

What is stopping you? is there an error? If so what error?

nate
(not familiar with Xen myself, I prefer vmware)


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[CentOS] Problem to run 4 virtual machines at a time.

2008-09-13 Thread mallikarjun gudisagar
Hi all

I have installed  vyatta system, (vyatta-livecd-vc4-alpha2.iso ) on top of
Centos5.
Our system requirement is,
* Centos 5.1 (2.6.18-92.1.10.el5xen )
* 2 Gb RAM,
* x86_64

And cpu information is as follow,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 107
model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+
stepping: 1
cpu MHz : 2100.010
cache size  : 512 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 1
core id : 0
cpu cores   : 1
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr mca cmov pat pse36
clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow
pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm cr8_legacy
bogomips: 5252.03
TLB size: 1024 4K pages
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc [6]

processor   : 1
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 107
model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+
stepping: 1
cpu MHz : 2100.010
cache size  : 512 KB
physical id : 1
siblings: 1
core id : 0
cpu cores   : 1
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr mca cmov pat pse36
clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow
pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm cr8_legacy
bogomips: 5252.03
TLB size: 1024 4K pages
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc [6]

My problem is  i have installed  '4'  virtual machines.
each virtual machine have 256Mb RAM.
But i am not able to run 4 virtual machines at a time.
 Please help me, what should i have to do?

Thanks
mallu
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Re: [CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread William L. Maltby

On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 05:06 -0700, nate wrote:
 William L. Maltby wrote:
 
  HWADDR=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx  # I've masked out MAC address for this post
 
 Out of curiosity why ? You are aware that someone knowing
 your MAC address outside your local network is fairly
 useless right?

Yes. I just do it out of habit so I don't forget something which could
lead to exposure. Habit developed long ago.

 
 I just find it funny how people tend to mask MAC/IP/host/domain
 names. If your system is not secure, and is on the internet,
 people on this list(and those scanning the archives etc) are
 the least of your worries.

Long, long ago, I had a block of IPs and registered domain. Worries
about hacking were relatively new then, I was even more ignorant about
this stuff than I am now, and my gateway/mail unit got hacked. I
immediately split services, hardened the gateway and, in a continual
process of learning from my mistakes, decided that *always* masking
some site-specific information would help reduce the chance that I would
forget on some critical piece down the road. If nothing else, since I
don't mask *all* site-specific data, it causes me to briefly think.
Since hoomons are, indeed, creatures of habit, it is best to reinforce
good habits, even to the point of overkill IMO.

I would rather do unnecessary work and be safer than be lazy and maybe
get burned at the most inopportune time (seems to be the most common
time for *everything* bad to happen).

 snip site information

Since, as I've often stated, I'm really ignorant about a lot of stuff, I
feel no regrets about taking a little more conservative approach to this
sort of stuff.

 nate
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Re: [CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread Josh Donovan
Niki Kovacs wrote:

 I recently made a CentOS install on a machine with an unsupported
 network card. I had to add the driver for it later, once I finished the
 install. For now I have this:

See http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialNetworking.html
and look at the section titled Changing the host name:




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Re: [CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread Niki Kovacs

Josh Donovan a écrit :


See http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialNetworking.html
and look at the section titled Changing the host name:



Conclusion of this thread: looks like there are two different schools 
for configuring the hostname.

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Re: [CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread Niki Kovacs

Marcus Moeller a écrit :



From Slackwares /etc/hosts:

...
# By the way, Arnt Gulbrandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] says that 127.0.0.1
# should NEVER be named with the name of the machine.  It causes
problems for some (stupid) programs, irc and reputedly talk.
...


I'm familiar with that one. Been a long-time Slackware user before. 
Though lately I don't follow this caveat anymore, as I have yet to come 
across one of said stupid programs. And BitchX doesn't seem to mind.


Cheers,

NK
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[CentOS] Missing 4.7 kernel update SRPMs ?

2008-09-13 Thread James Pearson
I can't find the kernel-2.6.9-78.0.1.EL.src.rpm and 
kernel-2.6.9-78.0.1.plus.c4.src.rpm on the download sites - the binary 
i386/x86_64 RPMS are there, but not the matching SRPMs


Does anyone know where they are?

Thanks

James Pearson

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Re: [CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread mouss

admin wrote:
It's worth checking that /etc/sysconfig/network also has whatever 
hostname you wish to use configured in it.


To effect changes, it may be necessary to restart the network:

service network restart




no need to restart, just run the hostname command to set your system 
hostname.


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[CentOS] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2008-09-13 Thread kapil singh kushwah
LinkedIn




   
CentOS,

I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.

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Re: [CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread Marcus Moeller
2008/9/13 Niki Kovacs [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Marcus Moeller a écrit :

 From Slackwares /etc/hosts:

 ...
 # By the way, Arnt Gulbrandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] says that 127.0.0.1
 # should NEVER be named with the name of the machine.  It causes
 problems for some (stupid) programs, irc and reputedly talk.
 ...

 I'm familiar with that one. Been a long-time Slackware user before. Though
 lately I don't follow this caveat anymore, as I have yet to come across one
 of said stupid programs. And BitchX doesn't seem to mind.

I agree on that and Pat just add it as a notice. My advice is to set
'localhost' or 'localhost.localdomain' (which should not really matter
but 'localhost' first is best practice) and all your other hostnames
as aliases.

Of course it 'may' also work if you add two lines for 127.0.0.1
(Ubuntu did it that way just a while) but this is just because FCFS.

Concerning RH or CentOS: I have to define /etc/hosts on all machines
that do not obtain their hostname via DHCP. I have not yet figured out
that the HOSTNAME variable in /etc/sysconfig/network is used in any
form (correct me if I am wrong).

Best Regards
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Re: [CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread mouss

mouss wrote:

admin wrote:
It's worth checking that /etc/sysconfig/network also has whatever 
hostname you wish to use configured in it.


To effect changes, it may be necessary to restart the network:

service network restart




no need to restart, just run the hostname command to set your system 
hostname.


caveat though: the hostname command won't affect already running 
services if they rely on the hostname.

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Re: [CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 8:42 AM, mouss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 mouss wrote:

 admin wrote:

 service network restart

 no need to restart, just run the hostname command to set your system
 hostname.

 caveat though: the hostname command won't affect already running services if
 they rely on the hostname.

Would this do?

echo newname  /proc/sys/kernel/hostname

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS] Problem to run 4 virtual machines at a time.

2008-09-13 Thread Wilson Lee
nate wrote:

What is vyatta system? From a search the closest I can find is
some sort of software that provides routing functionality

http://www.vyatta.com/index.php

Is that it ?

Correct.  Vyatta is an open source full-featured router/firewall/vpn solution 
based on Debian.  It can be installed on a physical computer or virtualized.  
Especially in a virtualized environment, Vyatta allows one to easily segregate 
network segments.  Resource requirements can be very low depending on the level 
of traffic and features enabled.

I currently use it as my primary home router for my static PPPoE ATT DSL.  I 
also use it to provide inter-VLAN routing.

At my previous employment, I used it for inter-VLAN routing - segments for 
VoIP, LAN, and DMZ.  It worked very well and never had a hiccup.

Best of all, there is no fee for the community edition, with a new version 
about every 6 months.  There's a subscription service if you want technical 
support and timely updates.

BTW, I don't work for Vyatta, just a happy user of their product.


Here are the technical specs from their website:

HARDWARE SUPPORT
» 32-bit x86 processors
» PC architecture

INTERFACES
» 10/100/1000 Ethernet cards
» 10 GbE cards
» T1/E1 cards – 1 port
» T1/E1 cards – 2 port
» T1/E1 cards – 4 port
» T3 cards

IP AND ROUTING PROTOCOLS
» IPv4
» OSPFv2
» BGPv4
» RIPv2
» Static routes

IP ADDRESS MANAGEMENT
» Static
» DHCP server
» DHCP client
» DHCP relay

ENCAPSULATIONS
» Ethernet
» 802.1Q VLANs
» PPP
» PPPoE
» MLPPP
» Frame Relay
» HDLC
» GRE, IP-in-IP

LOAD BALANCING
» WAN link load balancing
» MLPPP
» ECMP

QoS
» Priority Queuing
» Classful Queuing
» Bandwidth Management

SECURITY
» Stateful inspection fi rewall
» Network address translation
» IPSec VPN
» Remote VPN (PPTP, L2TP, IPSec)
» DES, 3DES, AES Encryption
» MD5 and SHA-1 Authentication
» RSA, Diffi e Helman Key Management
» NAT Traversal
» RADIUS authentication
» Individual user accounts and passwords

HIGH AVAILABILITY
» VRRP (Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol)
» IPSec VPN Clustering
» Protocol fault isolation

ADMINISTRATION
» Integrated CLI
» Web GUI*
» Single confi guration fi le
» Telnet
» SSHv2
» Network upgrades

DEBUGGING AND PACKET SNIFFING
» tcpdump
» Wireshark packet capture

LOGGING AND MONITORING
» Syslog
» SNMPv2c

* Web GUI Available Q3 ‘08

Wilson

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Re: [CentOS] java yum problem

2008-09-13 Thread Ric Moore

On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 07:27 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:
 On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 01:10 -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
  Error: Missing Dependency: /usr/bin/rebuild-security-providers is needed
  by package java-1.4.2-gcj-compat
  
  I'm digging all over the place for this one. Has anyone a clue?? When I
  use:
  yum whatprovides /usr/bin/rebuild-security-providers it returns:
  jpackage-utils.noarch : JPackage utilities
  I've installed this from several sources. Nothing seems to provide the
  rebuild thing. I've used mc to looking inside the rpms I've found and
  none have it. So, I would guess something else does. Thanks, Ric
 
 I don't know the answer, but I have a guess. I've noticed that often a
 prerequisite is installed one place (maybe it changed from a former
 location) and the dependent thinks it's elsewhere. The solution is often
 a symlink (until the dependent gets caught up).
 
 If you do an updatedb and then locate security-providers, you might
 get lucky. If it turns out that it's really not on your system, the
 google approach often yields clues to a solution.

Thank you, Bill. I did that and it revealed much. I found that the
jpackage I installed was flawed, lacking that file. I used the rpm from
my CentOS DVD and that fixed it. I have my fingers crossed that Java7
will be un-encumbered legally enough that an official rpm can be
released with all of the JDK's glory intact, and mesh with the rpm way
of keeping packages and dependencies straight. Free Rainbow-Stew and
Bubble-Up are my next targets. I had the jdk installed in /opt and it
worked. Then I decided to put it into /usr/java using the rpm.bin. That
sure fixed things. Not! grins Ric
 
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RE: [CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread RobertH

 
 127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomainlocalhost   calimero.local
 calimero
 
 Best Regards
 Marcus

Marcus,

Per man hostname

FILES
   /etc/hosts /etc/sysconfig/network

NOTE
   Note that hostname doesnât change anything permanently. After reboot
original names from /etc/hosts are used again.

:-)

Do you really think one should tie the hostname to the loopback interface in
the /etc/hosts file

We recommend that one should not tie the actual hostname or FQDN to the
loopback interface.

There are very few limited implementation or security seclusion cases where
you would want to consider doing that

It should look like this as example in /etc/hosts

127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain localhost calimero.local

x.y.z.a calimero.some123domain.com calimero

if the machine is not talking to another machine via network, then the
hostname doesn’t really matter too much now does it?

Put a sticker on it.

;-)

Production server examples can be provided if you are having major issues.

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Re: [CentOS] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2008-09-13 Thread Ralph Angenendt
kapil singh kushwah wrote:
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 I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.

That was actually very funny. 

Ralph

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Re: [CentOS] Missing 4.7 kernel update SRPMs ?

2008-09-13 Thread Shad L. Lords

James Pearson wrote:
I can't find the kernel-2.6.9-78.0.1.EL.src.rpm and 
kernel-2.6.9-78.0.1.plus.c4.src.rpm on the download sites - the binary 
i386/x86_64 RPMS are there, but not the matching SRPMs


There are actually quite a few missing sources:

From centosplus:

drbd82-kmod-8.2.6-2.2.6.9_78.0.1.plus.c4.src.rpm
drbd82-kmod-8.2.6-2.2.6.9_78.plus.c4.src.rpm
drbd-kmod-0.7.25-2.2.6.9_78.0.1.plus.c4.src.rpm
drbd-kmod-0.7.25-2.2.6.9_78.plus.c4.src.rpm
kernel-2.6.9-78.0.1.plus.c4.src.rpm
xfs-kmod-0.4-1.el4.2.6.9_78.0.1.plus.c4.src.rpm
xfs-kmod-0.4-1.el4.2.6.9_78.plus.c4.src.rpm

From csgfs:

cman-kernel-2.6.9-53.16.src.rpm
cmirror-kernel-2.6.9-38.15.src.rpm
dlm-kernel-2.6.9-52.12.src.rpm
GFS-kernel-2.6.9-75.22.src.rpm
gnbd-kernel-2.6.9-10.48.src.rpm

From extras:

drbd82-kmod-8.2.6-2.2.6.9_78.0.1.EL.src.rpm
drbd82-kmod-8.2.6-2.2.6.9_78.EL.src.rpm
drbd-kmod-0.7.25-2.2.6.9_78.0.1.EL.src.rpm
drbd-kmod-0.7.25-2.2.6.9_78.EL.src.rpm
xenpv-0.1-10.el4.centos.src.rpm
xfs-kmod-0.4-1.el4.2.6.9_78.0.1.EL.src.rpm
xfs-kmod-0.4-1.el4.2.6.9_78.EL.src.rpm

From os:

comps-4.7CENTOS-0.20080805.src.rpm
ntp-4.2.0.a.20040617-8.el4.centos.src.rpm
rpmdb-CentOS-4.7-0.20080805.src.rpm
system-config-date-1.7.15-0.RHEL4.3.centos.src.rpm


From updates:

kernel-2.6.9-78.0.1.EL.src.rpm
libxml2-2.6.16-12.5.src.rpm

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Re: [CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread Marcus Moeller
Dear Robert.

 Per man hostname

 FILES
   /etc/hosts /etc/sysconfig/network

 NOTE
   Note that hostname doesnât change anything permanently. After reboot
 original names from /etc/hosts are used again.

That's clear.

 Do you really think one should tie the hostname to the loopback interface in
 the /etc/hosts file

If it's not necessary to set the hostname on the loopback interface,
don't do so.

 We recommend that one should not tie the actual hostname or FQDN to the
 loopback interface.

 There are very few limited implementation or security seclusion cases where
 you would want to consider doing that

I have mentioned Arnt's statement on that.

 It should look like this as example in /etc/hosts

 127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain localhost calimero.local

^^ - should be:
127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain localhost
I guess.

or even:
127.0.0.1  localhostlocalhost.localdomain
(see discussion on the Debian ML)

 x.y.z.a calimero.some123domain.com calimero

 if the machine is not talking to another machine via network, then the
 hostname doesn't really matter too much now does it?

No, it does not. For me it's just nice to see on which host I am
working (even if it's local only).

Btw. Most major distributions set the hostname on the loopback
interface and even old-style distributions like Slackware do so (with
an advice) now.

But I agree, if you do not really need it, don't change 127.0.0.1 from
localhost and either define the hostname on a static interface or DHCP
assigned (or put a sticker on it ;).

Best Regards
Marcus
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Re: [CentOS] java yum problem

2008-09-13 Thread Les Mikesell

Ric Moore wrote:

On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 07:27 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:

On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 01:10 -0400, Ric Moore wrote:

Error: Missing Dependency: /usr/bin/rebuild-security-providers is needed
by package java-1.4.2-gcj-compat

I'm digging all over the place for this one. Has anyone a clue?? When I
use:
yum whatprovides /usr/bin/rebuild-security-providers it returns:
jpackage-utils.noarch : JPackage utilities
I've installed this from several sources. Nothing seems to provide the
rebuild thing. I've used mc to looking inside the rpms I've found and
none have it. So, I would guess something else does. Thanks, Ric

I don't know the answer, but I have a guess. I've noticed that often a
prerequisite is installed one place (maybe it changed from a former
location) and the dependent thinks it's elsewhere. The solution is often
a symlink (until the dependent gets caught up).

If you do an updatedb and then locate security-providers, you might
get lucky. If it turns out that it's really not on your system, the
google approach often yields clues to a solution.


Thank you, Bill. I did that and it revealed much. I found that the
jpackage I installed was flawed, lacking that file. I used the rpm from
my CentOS DVD and that fixed it. I have my fingers crossed that Java7
will be un-encumbered legally enough that an official rpm can be
released with all of the JDK's glory intact, and mesh with the rpm way
of keeping packages and dependencies straight. Free Rainbow-Stew and
Bubble-Up are my next targets. I had the jdk installed in /opt and it
worked. Then I decided to put it into /usr/java using the rpm.bin. That
sure fixed things. Not! grins Ric


It should work if you follow the jpackage instructions for their nosrc 
rpm where you download the Sun binary and rebuild it into an 
alternatives-compatible package that also supplies the jvm dependencies 
for the other jpackage packages.  I won't try to be more specific than 
that because I always find it confusing myself, but it does work if you 
can find the right pieces.


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RE: [CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread RobertH

Marcus,

Exactly, I have often wondered upstream does it that way so that I always
have to go fix the /etc/hosts file after every CentOS install.

Since functionally, it is wrong.

 - rh

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Re: [CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread John R Pierce

RobertH wrote:

Marcus,

Exactly, I have often wondered upstream does it that way so that I always
have to go fix the /etc/hosts file after every CentOS install.

Since functionally, it is wrong.
  



indeed, having the hostname bound to the loopback interface seems to 
break a bunch of our java stuff too.first thing we've always had to 
do after a CentOS/RHEL install is change /etc/hosts, and put the 
hostname on its own line with the static IP, or leave it out entirely.




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RE: [CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread RobertH

 John R Pierce wrote: 
 indeed, having the hostname bound to the loopback interface seems to
 break a bunch of our java stuff too.first thing we've always had to
 do after a CentOS/RHEL install is change /etc/hosts, and put the
 hostname on its own line with the static IP, or leave it out entirely.
 

John,

Hit that nail on the head and exactly what I was describing.

Thing is, why does upstream and/or other distros do that?

What is the reasoning?

We should understand it if there is such a thing yet it appears many of us
change it regardless.

I do know a several people that are not aware of it when they do installs...
and I have to remind or fix.

 - rh

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Re: [CentOS] 4.7 update issues?

2008-09-13 Thread John R Pierce

RobertH wrote:

Greets,

Thank you to all the CentOS team and supporters.

:-)

Just wondering though...

Any 4.7 update issues or horror stories yet?
  


indeed, specifically, did those issues with the broken kernel update get 
sorted out?

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Re: [CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread Marcus Moeller
Good Evening.

 Hit that nail on the head and exactly what I was describing.

 Thing is, why does upstream and/or other distros do that?

 What is the reasoning?

The reason for setting a hostname on loopback is simple. Major
distributions want to brand their installs even if the box has not
network interface configured.

Best Regards
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Re: [CentOS] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2008-09-13 Thread William L. Maltby

On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 18:27 +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 kapil singh kushwah wrote:
  CentOS,
  
  I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.
 
 That was actually very funny. 

How so? CNBC had one of the principals on the other day. It sounds like
a great idea, but commercial. I considered the post to be the equivalent
of spam.

 
 Ralph
 snip

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Re: [CentOS] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2008-09-13 Thread Ralph Angenendt
William L. Maltby wrote:
 That was actually very funny. 
 
 How so? CNBC had one of the principals on the other day. It sounds like
 a great idea, but commercial. I considered the post to be the equivalent
 of spam.

Well, a mailing list as a contact in one of those social networks doesn't really
make sense. 

But: That comment was my way of avoiding to say idiot.

Cheers,

Ralph

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RE: [CentOS] 4.7 update issues?

2008-09-13 Thread RobertH
 
 
 indeed, specifically, did those issues with the broken kernel update get
 sorted out?


I dunno about any kernel issues on mirrors or syncing or whatever...

After a quick backup set check, I bit the bullet on one of our main CentOS
4.6 i386 production boxes and did a full update to CentOS 4.7 i386 yet
excluding the kernel* update in the /etc/yum.conf

Reboot and after quick check, it appears there are no noticeable issues.

As a side note, this particular box started about as an original CentOS4
approx 4 years ago and has been updated many times without one issue.

Again, good work CentOS team and supporters!

 - rh



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Re: [CentOS] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2008-09-13 Thread William L. Maltby

On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 19:56 +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 William L. Maltby wrote:
  That was actually very funny. 
  
  How so? CNBC had one of the principals on the other day. It sounds like
  a great idea, but commercial. I considered the post to be the equivalent
  of spam.
 
 Well, a mailing list as a contact in one of those social networks doesn't 
 really
 make sense. 
 
 But: That comment was my way of avoiding to say idiot.

Ah-ha! I thought of similar, but cruder word.

It's too bad we don't have more emoticons (ASCII, of course) that can
convey more of the subtleties.

I came up with a small set for the pucker factor some years back. I'm
just lurking waiting for a good opportunity to spring them on the world!

}:)

 
 Cheers,
 
 Ralph
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[CentOS] script for updating from 4.6 to 5.2 i386

2008-09-13 Thread Jerry Geis

Is there a script available for upgrade from 4 to 5?
I have tried it on one TEST computer following what I thought were the 
instructions and
after the update I still had 2.6.9 kernel not the 2.6.18. I looked in 
grub.conf and there were no 2.6.18 kernels.


Just wonder if someone has automated this process?

Thanks,

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[CentOS] 4.7 update issues?

2008-09-13 Thread R P Herrold

On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, RobertH wrote:


Any 4.7 update issues or horror stories yet?


Part of the QA which I mentioned earlier in the week was 
looking for problems.  This late in point respins of the 4 
series, however, nothing major comes to mind from the looking 
we did during that testing.


It should 'just work' and once it is out a few days (and the 
ISO pull load and 'chunky' updates load passes -- I see 130 
packages being touched in one production mail and name 
server), the deferred updates are next on the docket of major 
things to look for in the 4 series.


The only one of some consequence that sticks out is the 'bind' 
series one, with the fixed source port (but as this was never 
a CentOS default option setting, not likely to happen to a 
person 'unknowngly'), and so all that major.  The libxml2 
update is the other which needs a bit of assessment, but 
again, it is not what I think of as a 'major' matter.


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[CentOS] Local yum repository

2008-09-13 Thread saurabh

Hi All,

i have a local repository configured for 'yum',which have files copied 
over from the RHEL DVD,It was configured initially,as i was facing some 
issues with my NIC which was not supported on 2.6.18 so had to upgrade 
to 2.6.26.
Now as all is working fine and i'm on net i want to disable that 
repository and just use the rpmforge repository configured on my system 
following directions from

http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories/RPMForge?action=showredirect=Repositories%2FRPMForge

Please help me out
-  Disabling the local Repo
or by
-  Any method to keep it up to date ,[syncing it with some online 
repository]

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[CentOS] Missing 4.7 kernel update SRPMs ?

2008-09-13 Thread R P Herrold

On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, Shad L. Lords wrote:


James Pearson wrote:
I can't find the kernel-2.6.9-78.0.1.EL.src.rpm and 
kernel-2.6.9-78.0.1.plus.c4.src.rpm on the download sites - the binary 
i386/x86_64 RPMS are there, but not the matching SRPMs


There are actually quite a few missing sources:


Please file bugs -- these are easy to address, but might lost 
in a mailing list context.  The SRPMs are usually also 
available at the upstream prime site unless they were related 
to an update and were replaced by later candidates.


When there were CentOS specific patches needed (TM artwork 
replacement, or functional ones), we are of course the prime 
site.


Perhaps we should add a README in our SRPM archives at each 
directory point to the prime location ... hmmm.


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[CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread R P Herrold

On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, John R Pierce wrote:


RobertH wrote:

Marcus,

Exactly, I have often wondered upstream does it that way so that I always
have to go fix the /etc/hosts file after every CentOS install.

Since functionally, it is wrong.


indeed, having the hostname bound to the loopback interface seems to break a 
bunch of our java stuff too.first thing we've always had to do after a 
CentOS/RHEL install is change /etc/hosts, and put the hostname on its own 
line with the static IP, or leave it out entirely.


To some extent this confusion on how host names are 
determined, is an artifact being expressed due to the host 
being in a environment without the reverse DNS entries lookup 
working properly, or being built at one address and deployed 
to another with static networking. (sometimes the result gets 
saved into: /etc/sysconfig/network by anaconda -- by hand 
editing /etc/hosts, one is 'cacheing' an answer there ;) )


The 'dance' of hostname setting makes a series of inquiries, 
until it hits a 'success' state.  By editting /etc/hosts, one 
is permitting it to find an answer that is 'less good' than 
the rDNS, but still good enough.  Ditto editting 
/etc/sysconfig/network as the documentation in:

rpm -qd initscripts
describes.

This has not changed in years, but is not as well documented 
as it might be, as this thread reveals.


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Re: [CentOS] (no subject)

2008-09-13 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Bob Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all..

 I have centos 5.2

 There is a cron file that is commented out to auto update the rules of
 spamassassin
 Location: /etc/cron.d/sa-update

 This file is chmod 600, should it not be 755? All the other crons are 755

 This line is commented.
 #10 4 * * * root /usr/share/spamassassin/sa-update.cron 21 | tee -a
 /var/log/sa-update.log


 Questions

 1- should I re chmod it to 600 or leave it at 755?

 Is anyone else using this? The cron file says to read a certain wiki page
 and do this cron at your own peril. Yet I find no warnings on that wiki page
 that would make me think this was bad.


 Thanks all

Bob: In the future, please include something in the Subject line, that
will give the list an idea of what your message is about. I think you
will get more replies if you do that.. Lanny
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Re: [CentOS] script for updating from 4.6 to 5.2 i386

2008-09-13 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Jerry Geis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there a script available for upgrade from 4 to 5?
 I have tried it on one TEST computer following what I thought were the
 instructions and
 after the update I still had 2.6.9 kernel not the 2.6.18. I looked in
 grub.conf and there were no 2.6.18 kernels.

 Just wonder if someone has automated this process?

Jerry: As I recall, neither Upstream or CentOS suggests Upgrading from
4.x to 5.x
Your results might be good, but, you might have a lot of issues after
the Upgrade. Best to backup and
do a clean install and then restore your data. Lanny
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[CentOS] HP Hardware

2008-09-13 Thread Mag Gam
At my university we use HP hardware exclusively. When we build CentOS
our Unix SA is running several HP utilities. I am wondering what some
of these utilities are, such as cmaidad. Is it possible to to use
these HP utilities to monitor for disk crashes (similar to smartd)? Is
anyone using native HP utilities for this purpose?


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Re: [CentOS] HP Hardware

2008-09-13 Thread nate
Mag Gam wrote:
 At my university we use HP hardware exclusively. When we build CentOS
 our Unix SA is running several HP utilities. I am wondering what some
 of these utilities are, such as cmaidad. Is it possible to to use
 these HP utilities to monitor for disk crashes (similar to smartd)? Is
 anyone using native HP utilities for this purpose?

The only HP tool I found useful was hpacucli, which is an
SmartArray management tool, I think for only the Smart controllers,
(e.g. not the cheap shit SATA controllers). You could detect
drive failures and predictive failures etc. Though for some
stupid reason at least as of the last time I used the tool
you could not force a drive off line or force a drive to fail. I
recall 2 problems in particular where the drive was failing and
causing lots of I/O problems on the system but we had to send
someone out on site to remove the disk, the controller wouldn't
mark it as completely bad(it said it was about to fail). HP
support claimed perhaps an updated firmware would of fixed that
particular behavior (DL360 G4p class system with a SmartArray
6404 PCI-X RAID controller).

The bonus with hpacucli is you don't need any special drivers to
get it to work, it uses the same drivers that the controller does.
I'm really not fond of installing vendor specific drivers on top
of my systems for monitoring purposes, maybe I'm paranoid but I
don't have a lot of faith in them.

Unlike the Dell raid management tool which needs a bunch of RPMs
installed and drivers etc(at least from what I've seen, and I've
had it crash at least one model of dell system very reliably within
seconds of running it).

iLO 2 can give quite a bit of hardware info as well, tons more
than iLO 1 could, though it is web based. You may be able to
access the iLO 2 event logs through OpenIPMI.

You could install the support tools for HP Systems Insight
manager, though as mentioned above it has a lot of drivers
and packages to support. I installed the agents recently on
a VMWare ESX system just to see what it could do(since the
agent was specifically for ESX), but at least under
ESX the DL580G1 I was testing it on really didn't give anything
useful.

nate


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Re: [CentOS] Newbies to CentOS List

2008-09-13 Thread MHR
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 3:19 AM, Josh Donovan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Guidelines for CentOS Mailing List posts

 * Mailing List Etiquette
 * How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
 * Quoting Style
 * Why is Bottom-posting better than Top-posting

 1. Please turn off HTML in your e-mail client for these mailing lists.

Yes, yes, yes.

 2. Please do not top post to the mailing list when replying to a post.
 (See the Quoting Style link above, and use the Interleaved text method
 , deleting non-applicable text as required. If you need to reply to a
 message, and you do not need to post in interleaved mode, please bottom
 post instead of top posting.

Since this _is_ a text-only mailing list and your post was text only,
there is no link.  (Oops!)  You have to post the URL itself.

 3. Please trim the extra stuff in the email and leave enough to make
  sense of the thread.


In particular, please trim off the extra stuff at the bottom of your
posts to which you are NOT responding.  A lot of people, even
not-so-newbies, miss this and leave a lot of useless excess at the
end.  Note that if you actually BOTTOM-post, this does not happen

Thanks, Josh.

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Re: [CentOS] Startup programs in specific workspaces

2008-09-13 Thread MHR
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 4:21 AM, William L. Maltby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just did a google (highly recommended for all initial thoughts  :-)
 for gnome startup scripts. With a little refinement, it looks very
 promising.


Yes, I know - I do that.  Your search criteria look far better than
mine.  Thanks.

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Re: [CentOS] Local yum repository

2008-09-13 Thread Sergey Podushkin

saurabh wrote:

Please help me out
-  Disabling the local Repo

just place disabled=1 line in your .repo file for local repository


or by
-  Any method to keep it up to date ,[syncing it with some online 
repository]

copy of DVD doesn't need to be synced, since it doesn't updated at all.
If you want you may need to have mirror of updates repository, that is 
 separate repository from base, that contains originally released 
packages.
You can use any methods you familiar with, e.g. rsync, wget mirroring or 
reposync (from yum-utils package).

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Re: [CentOS] Problem to run 4 virtual machines at a time.

2008-09-13 Thread MHR
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Wilson Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Correct.  Vyatta is an open source full-featured router/firewall/vpn
 solution based on Debian.  It can be installed on a physical computer or
 virtualized.  Especially in a virtualized environment, Vyatta allows one to
 easily segregate network segments.  Resource requirements can be very low
 depending on the level of traffic and features enabled.


Sounds like this is more of a question for a vyatta mailing list.

What CentOS product are you using for these virtual machines?  Are you
using xen or something else?

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Re: [CentOS] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2008-09-13 Thread MHR
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 11:49 AM, William L. Maltby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ah-ha! I thought of similar, but cruder word.

 It's too bad we don't have more emoticons (ASCII, of course) that can
 convey more of the subtleties.


Something like (*), maybe?  It doesn't quit look right 'cuz the
asterisk is too high, but there's also |-o (asleep and snoring?)

 I came up with a small set for the pucker factor some years back. I'm
 just lurking waiting for a good opportunity to spring them on the world!

 }:)


:-}

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Re: [CentOS] question on sending mail with 5.2

2008-09-13 Thread Luke S Crawford
Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I really don't understand why people just don't turn off their mailservers if 
 they 
 don't want mail from others.


Most of us have come close.I get north of 500 spams a day unprotected.
I've been using the same email since '01.  I know many others have it worse
than I do.  

At that point, there is no choice about loosing mail.   When sorting that by
hand (and I have)  I delete a significant amount of good mail.  The automated
filters usually do much better than this human when you have 10 spams for every
legitimate mail.  

Rejecting mail from mailservers that don't follow the generally accepted
best practices, I think, is completely reasonable.  It gets rid of a whole
lot of spam, and  the rules are pretty simple and easy to follow, so I think
it is completely reasonable to ask people who run mailservers to put in a 
little effort to setup things like rdns, and to make sure they don't do things
like retry once a minute.

what if my mailserver was rejecting with a 4xx because it was overloaded?
retrying every minute would certainly not help things.  


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RE: [CentOS] Yum-updatesd

2008-09-13 Thread Bob Hoffman
 
  This is on, via the chkconfig and seems to run a lot.
  TO DO: auto update YUM for the computer once a day.
  Files: /etc/yum/yum-updatesd.conf
  Extra: send a mail or add to log file
 
 Isn't that overkill for an enterprise distro? Subscribing to 
 the relevant mailing list should help shouldn't it? 
 Not even considering the potential load on the CentOS 
 servers, shouldn't an admin test updates without letting yum 
 auto-update? Updates do have issues too.

The default setting is every hour. Checking for an update at least once a
day is not bad as a bug fix can come in at anytime. I would think that is
very important for the server.

As for updates with issues, so far none, but I guess they will happen. I
slimmed down my system, and continue to do so, in the hopes that the less
stuff running, the less problems updating.

So far though, no problems with any update so far.

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RE: [CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread Bob Hoffman

 
 Change /etc/hosts
 First of all, leave all the original stuff and do not alter.
 Underneath the original stuff, just add
 ipaddress  server1.mydomain.com see below
 
Sorry, half asleep


ipaddress  server1.mydomain.com server1

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RE: [CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread Bob Hoffman
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ cat /etc/hosts

 127.0.0.1   calimero.local calimero localhost.localdomain 
 localhost
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ hostname
 calimero.local
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ hostname --fqdn
 calimero.local
 
 Wouldn't this be more correct?

I would suggest not making 'local' part of your server name.
Although localhost.localdomain, in a  non network setting, can work
absolutely fine, there is an issue with your email headers. The use of
locahost, local, and stuff like that is a big red flag.

I changed, in my centos 5 server, where the host name was
localhost.locadomain...

/etc/sysconfig/network
Hostname=server1.mydomain.com 
(where the domain is one of my websites on the server, actually my name
server too)

Change, for sendmail to work with it, the file local-hosts-names
Add the new name to it
Server1.mydomain.com

Change /etc/hosts
First of all, leave all the original stuff and do not alter.
Underneath the original stuff, just add
ipaddress  server1.mydomain.com

REBOOT

Then do this...

shell prompt uname -n
server1.mydomain.com

shell prompt hostname -s
Server1

shell prompt hostname -d
Mydomain.com

shell prompt hostname -f
server1.mydomain.com

shell prompt hostname
server1.mydomain.com


All of these steps allows the mail headers, at least in sendmail, to
function properly. Other than that, unless you are in a network, or if you
are not sending mail, it is usually not a biggie if you miss some steps.

This is what I did to resolve a new hostname.

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RE: [CentOS] question on sending mail with 5.2

2008-09-13 Thread Bob Hoffman
 
 
  I really don't understand why people just don't turn off their 
  mailservers if they don't want mail from others.
 
 
 Most of us have come close.I get north of 500 spams a day 
 unprotected.
 I've been using the same email since '01.  I know many others 
 have it worse than I do.  
 


I got my first website address in 1997. I almost got bob.com, but
networksolutions would not give it to me even though it was expired for a
year. Microsoft legal even offered to network solutions to let it go..but
they would not send the fax.
It should have been mine.
I spent a week calling about it to microsoft and left a message to a 'top
guy'. The next day it was suddendly given to the guy who owns it now. A
'friend' of microsofts.

Anyway...back on the topic.
My email has been the same forever.
On the old server I could, after filtering, get upwards of 2000 mails a day.
Not all junk mail is filterable due to work and stuff.

I just did my centos though..new server, updated the spam stuff...down to
less than 100 a day.
It is like being reborn.

So, it is possible with a heavliy used email address to weed out a lot of
junk through centos and spam assassin indeed.
I was highly impressed.

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[CentOS] Installing libpng

2008-09-13 Thread Joe Tseng

I've been trying to install perl-Tk and I learned v804.028 uses libpng 
1.2.20; CentOS 5.2 still uses 1.2.10.  Is there an RPM out there I can use
that's  1.2.20?  I'm just afraid of compiling from source code and breaking
all the apps that depend on what's on the system right now.

- Joe 


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Re: [CentOS] java yum problem

2008-09-13 Thread Ric Moore

On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 11:49 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:

 It should work if you follow the jpackage instructions for their nosrc 
 rpm where you download the Sun binary and rebuild it into an 
 alternatives-compatible package that also supplies the jvm dependencies 
 for the other jpackage packages.  I won't try to be more specific than 
 that because I always find it confusing myself, but it does work if you 
 can find the right pieces.

Sounds like my own brain. It works when I find the right pieces. I found
this little gem on the web, it's a script to do all of that rpm
rebuilding. Rather than take up bandwidth, if someone wants me to attach
it to them to look at, I'd be glad to. It looks pretty simple and might
actually be of use to folks. Ric

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Re: [CentOS] Installing nVidia driver on remote CentOS 4

2008-09-13 Thread Ric Moore

On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 20:40 -0700, Eon Strife wrote:
 
  
 Hi,
 There's a linux cluster somewhere (using Rocks), and I use remote
 desktop (nxmachine) to do the work on the frontend of the cluster. The
 desktop is Gnome. And, I intend to install new nVidia driver, but it
 requires me to stop the X Server. I check around the internet, they say
 we can use the /etc/init.d/gdm stop, but I can't run it since the gdm
 file does not exist. Another alternative is by rebooting the Linux (of
 course, we change the inittab before). But I don't know how to reboot
 remotely. Moreover, I don't know if it is safe to reboot Linux remotely, 
 because I
 can't physically access the linux workstation. Oh, the operating
 system of the Linux is CentOS 4. 
 What should I do ?

init 3? If you ran services (the gui) and checked that all services
were set to run on level 3 and 5, would the cluster stay up and you
reconnect back in with ssh to complete the install? I'm clueless about a
cluster. :) Ric

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Re: [CentOS] Local yum repository

2008-09-13 Thread saurabh

Sergey Podushkin wrote:

saurabh wrote:

Please help me out
-  Disabling the local Repo

just place disabled=1 line in your .repo file for local repository


or by
-  Any method to keep it up to date ,[syncing it with some online 
repository]

copy of DVD doesn't need to be synced, since it doesn't updated at all.
If you want you may need to have mirror of updates repository, that 
is  separate repository from base, that contains originally released 
packages.
You can use any methods you familiar with, e.g. rsync, wget mirroring 
or reposync (from yum-utils package).

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Hi Sergey Podushkin
Thanks for the response.

i followed your instructions and edited the local repo file under 
/etc/yum.repos.d by adding disabled=1 in the last

[server]
name=server
baseurl=file:///var/ftp/pub/Server
gpgcheck=0
disabled=1

Rebooted the machine and tried to run yum again but this time too yum 
looked at local repo.Here is the output

[EMAIL PROTECTED] X11]# yum install openo*
Loading installonlyn plugin
Loading rhnplugin plugin
This system is not registered with RHN.
RHN support will be disabled.
Setting up Install Process
Setting up repositories
Reading repository metadata in from local files
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
-- Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
--- Package openobex-apps.i386 0:1.3-3.1 set to be updated
--- Package openobex.i386 0:1.3-3.1 set to be updated
--- Package openobex-devel.i386 0:1.3-3.1 set to be updated
-- Running transaction check
-- Processing Dependency: bluez-libs-devel for package: openobex-devel
-- Processing Dependency: libusb-devel for package: openobex-devel
-- Restarting Dependency Resolution with new changes.
-- Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
--- Package libusb-devel.i386 0:0.1.12-5.1 set to be updated
--- Package bluez-libs-devel.i386 0:3.7-1 set to be updated
-- Running transaction check

Dependencies Resolved

=
Package Arch   Version  RepositorySize
=
Installing:
openobexi386   1.3-3.1  server 21 k
openobex-apps   i386   1.3-3.1  server 36 k
openobex-devel  i386   1.3-3.1  server 18 k
Installing for dependencies:
bluez-libs-develi386   3.7-1server 62 k
libusb-develi386   0.1.12-5.1   server 96 k

Transaction Summary
=
Install  5 Package(s)
Update   0 Package(s)
Remove   0 Package(s)


Total download size: 232 k
Is this ok [y/N]: n
Exiting on user Command
Complete!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] X11]#

Please help me solve this,i'm using RHEL 5 [2.6.26.5]

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