Re: [CentOS] storage servers crashing, hair being pulled out!

2009-12-19 Thread Les Mikesell
Gordon McLellan wrote:
> I have a trio of servers that like to reboot during high disk /
> network IO operations.  They don't appear to panic, as I have
> kernel.panic = 0 in sysctl.conf.  The syslog just shows normal
> messages, like samba complaining about browse master and then just
> syslogd starting up.

Did this just start happening after the last update, or have they never been 
reliable?  I have one box that just started crashing after the last kernel 
update but it may just be from old age instead.  If they have never been 
reliable I'd suspect bad RAM first.  I've seen cases where you had to run the 
memory test a few days to catch it.

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Re: [CentOS] storage servers crashing, hair being pulled out!

2009-12-19 Thread nate
Gordon McLellan wrote:

> I'm really at a loss on what to do next... Any suggestions?

Run hardware diagnostics? Run a burn in test? I use this:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/va-ctcs/

For burn-in. In my experience it takes less then 4 hours at
high load with this app to turn up faulty hardware. If it
does crash with this then replace the system or replace
components until the crashing stops, run it for a week, then
you can be pretty certain at least the hardware is stable.

Also noticed your using pretty poor quality components for
a storage server, promise raid? western digital "green" disks?
Not exactly server grade.

Suggest if you want stability you go with Western Digital RE3/4
disks and 3ware RAID(with a BBU so you can enable write back
caching), at least.. Seagate have high grade SATA as well, you
don't mention the model your using but I'd assume they are of
similar quality as the "green" disks, i.e. not made for servers.

Also I assume you have a decent UPS as well on all systems, never
run a computer without a UPS(well unless it's a laptop).

Did you build the systems yourself or did you buy them pre
assembled? If you did it yourself I would verify the power
supplies themselves are of decent quality and provide adequate
voltage given the number of disks your working with. While there
are plenty of good power supplies out there, the only one I will
go out of my way to put money down on is PC Power & Cooling.

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Re: [CentOS] storage servers crashing, hair being pulled out!

2009-12-19 Thread William Warren
Do you have a BBU on this card?  Various sites report the controller has 
poor performance on writes without the bbu.

On 12/19/2009 10:55 PM, Gordon McLellan wrote:
> I'm really at a loss on what to do next... Any suggestions?
>

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Re: [CentOS] storage servers crashing, hair being pulled out!

2009-12-19 Thread William Warren
I'm looking at the controller myself.  Have you tried updating either 
the firmware on the card the drivers or both?

On 12/19/2009 10:55 PM, Gordon McLellan wrote:
> The other variable is the two machines running drbd have promise raid
> cards in them.  I also have the same raid card in my personal server
> at home.  That server also has a nack of crashing during heavy disk IO
> to the raid volume.  The entire OS doesn't crash, just the raid
> volume, and the only way to bring it back is a reboot.
>
> I'm really at a loss on what to do next... Any suggestions?
>

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[CentOS] Evolution search menu

2009-12-19 Thread Frank Cox
When I switched my main desktop computer from Fedora to Centos, I moved
my email from Sylpheed to Evolution.  (Reason:  Sylpheed for Centos
doesn't boldface unread messages in the message list box and newer
Sylpheed versions won't compile on Centos.)

Evolution works fine, but I can't figure out how to get rid of the
"previous/next" buttons that appear at the bottom of the Evolution
window after I do a search.

Detail:  I enter a search term in the "Search" box over the message
list.  Two buttons "previous" and "next", plus a "match case" checkbox
and "Matches: X" (where X is the number of matches found in the message)
appear at the bottom of the Evolution window, just below the message
text.

That bar is fine while I'm doing the searching, but the only way I can
get rid of that after I complete my search is to exit and re-load
Evolution.

Is there another way to get rid of it?

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[CentOS] storage servers crashing, hair being pulled out!

2009-12-19 Thread Gordon McLellan
I have a trio of servers that like to reboot during high disk /
network IO operations.  They don't appear to panic, as I have
kernel.panic = 0 in sysctl.conf.  The syslog just shows normal
messages, like samba complaining about browse master and then just
syslogd starting up.

The machines seem to crash when I'm not near the console, usually when
I'm trying to pull data off them to another machine running backups.
But, they've also crashed trying to copy data off them to other
servers (via iscsi).  Also, they have crashed being on the receiving
end of data via nfs.

Two of the servers are linked using drbd and heartbeat, the third is
stand alone.

Centos 5.4 x86-64 is the flavor of linux on all of them, pretty much
vanilla except for the drbd/iscsi stuff.

I want to go after the motherboard manufactorer, since I'm more
willing to suspect three mobos in a bad lot than three CPUs,
especially since one cpu is completely different than the other two.

The other variable is the two machines running drbd have promise raid
cards in them.  I also have the same raid card in my personal server
at home.  That server also has a nack of crashing during heavy disk IO
to the raid volume.  The entire OS doesn't crash, just the raid
volume, and the only way to bring it back is a reboot.

I'm really at a loss on what to do next... Any suggestions?

Gordon

The hardware config of the drbd servers:

Tyan i3210 ICH9 mobo
Intel C2D 7500 cpu
4GB A-Data ram
Promise ex8650 raid
Supermicro 742TQ-865 chassis (865w psu)
8x 1Tb western digital green power drives

The third machine:

Tyan i3210 ICH9 mobo
Intel C2Q 9400 cpu
8GB Mushkin ram
dmraid 5
Antec something or other chassis
550W PC Power and Cooling PSU
7x 250gb seagate 7200's
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Re: [CentOS] College student printer for CentOS 5.4 x86_64?

2009-12-19 Thread MHR
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 6:27 PM, John R Pierce  wrote:
>
> I like the carts on my Canon i9900 photo printer... they are simple
> clear plastic carts, with a prism molded into the bottom of the ink
> compartment...  the printer shines a laser up into the cart, and can
> tell exactly when the ink is low and when its gone.   so simple its
> silly.   These are Canon BCI-6x (where x varies with the color)
>

Yeah, those are the good ones.  I have a Canon i560 inkjet that my son
likes, and it uses the BCI-3 black and BCI-6 color cartridges.  Those
are terrific - you can use generic ink in them for refills and they
just work and work and work (except not with Linux, as John says).

The newer ones I've had were the IP4200 and IP4300, which use the
PGI-5 black and BCI-8 color cartridges, and the IP4600 (current one),
which uses the 221 and 222 cartridges (I forgot the letter).  They
only work with the Canon cartridges, and those run $50 for a set at
Costco, more everywhere else.  I don't know if they work with Linux or
not, but the ink is prohibitively expensive, and they are really
fragile and nitpicky.  the 4200 and 4300 only lasted about 6 months
each, and the only reason the 4600 hasn't given out yet is that, due
to the cost of the inks, we don't use it much.

I love Canon cameras, and their printers produce gorgeous printouts,
color or b/w, but they are expensive and don't work with Linux.  For
myself, I use the Brother for 99% of everything, and my HP4350
fax-printer inkjet for faxes and (rarely) color - it's cheap as long
as I don't overuse it.

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Re: [CentOS] College student printer for CentOS 5.4 x86_64?

2009-12-19 Thread John R Pierce
MHR wrote:
> (I'd still stick with Brother or HP.  If the Canon ink cartridges are
> the newer, electronically aware/controlled kind, I'll be surprised if
> you don't want to switch soon enough anyway.)
>   

I like the carts on my Canon i9900 photo printer... they are simple 
clear plastic carts, with a prism molded into the bottom of the ink 
compartment...  the printer shines a laser up into the cart, and can 
tell exactly when the ink is low and when its gone.   so simple its 
silly.   These are Canon BCI-6x (where x varies with the color)

catch-22, afaik, its impossible to get this printer working with 
Linux.It prints gorgeous 13x19" edge to edge photos, uses 8 ink 
colors (black, cyan, magenta, yellow, photo-cyan, photo-magenta, red, 
and green).  Its quite fast for an inkjet, too, considering how 
excellent the quality is.   Hasn't clogged ever in 3-4 years of 
moderately heavy but intermittent use.Had to clean the bottom of the 
inkjet plate once when ink buildup started to leave little streaks on 
the bottom 1/4" of the pages of photopaper.

HP is the one who likes to chip their cartridges, that and Epson.




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Re: [CentOS] College student printer for CentOS 5.4 x86_64?

2009-12-19 Thread MHR
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Stephen Harris  wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 06:33:18PM -0500, David McGuffey wrote:
>> Yes, I checked that site.  The printer is a USB Cannon IP1800. Chasing
>> links I found at linuxprinting I had to go to Japan to get a driver, but
>> it wouldn't work.

Been there, done that - one reason I recommended avoiding Canon printers

> Try
>
> http://software.canon-europe.com/software/0027213.asp?model=
>
> (found from http://software.canon-europe.com/products/0010455.asp )
>
> Even includes a nice rpm which has a cups PPD driver :-)
>

If this works, go for it.  Does this mean that Canon is coming around,
finally?  Two years ago, they didn't acknowledge that Linux was
anything other than a nose-up-turner

(I'd still stick with Brother or HP.  If the Canon ink cartridges are
the newer, electronically aware/controlled kind, I'll be surprised if
you don't want to switch soon enough anyway.)

Best of luck anyway.

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[CentOS] Cannot see samba in win Neighborhood

2009-12-19 Thread Matias Morawicki
Hello u all, sorry to bring this issue back again, but I´ve been
searching and trying all the advices suggested in previous posts and I
still can´t see the samba server in the win network neighborhood.

I can see the samba shares from win via net view \\servername

but if I issue a plain "net view" samba won´t show up. only the win
machines, the same i can see on the Neighborhood...

and when I select local master = no  Samba would stay without master!
I issue smbclient -L servername -U% and the master section remains empty.

It´s like samba is not being able to "talk" to the rest of the
workgroup. (of course they are all in the same workgroup)

I´m using "wins support = yes" and I´ve set the DHCP to set the clients to
use the samba server as wins server.I´ve checked the win clients and they
get the correct conf.

I´ve tried stopping iptables, disabling Selinux, different smb.conf from the
simple
examples of t first chapters of samba by example,  to plenty of
options... that´s why I´m not including my smb.conf, because I´ve
tried many variations, always with the same results.
I tried a basic samba configuration in a ubuntu server in another box just
to test, anf the win clients were able to see it in the neigbohood... so I
guess the issue is on my Centos box. I tried the same smb.conf from that
working ubuntu-samba and didn´t make it on the Centos...

Btw, the server is a Centos 5.3, with samba 3.2.15 (it also happened
with the default samba, so I´ve upgraded just in case...)

I hope someone can point me some directions...

thanks in advance!!

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Re: [CentOS] College student printer for CentOS 5.4 x86_64?

2009-12-19 Thread Stephen Harris
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 06:33:18PM -0500, David McGuffey wrote:
> Yes, I checked that site.  The printer is a USB Cannon IP1800. Chasing
> links I found at linuxprinting I had to go to Japan to get a driver, but
> it wouldn't work.

Try

http://software.canon-europe.com/software/0027213.asp?model=

(found from http://software.canon-europe.com/products/0010455.asp )

Even includes a nice rpm which has a cups PPD driver :-)

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Re: [CentOS] College student printer for CentOS 5.4 x86_64?

2009-12-19 Thread David McGuffey

On Sat, 2009-12-19 at 10:52 +0100, Louis Lagendijk wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 20:20 -0500, David McGuffey wrote:
> > Oldest son came back from college and wants a printer for his Dell
> > laptop.  I built it with CentOS 5.3 x86_64 several months ago and will
> > upgrade it to 5.4
> > 
> > The Cannon printer he now has (bought with the laptop and Vista through
> > the university book store), doesn't seem to have linux drivers. 
> 
> what model printer is this? Did you check http://www.linuxprinting.org?
> You may also want to take a look at turboprint www.turboprint.info , it
> is commercial, but offer good quality drivers for a lot of printers. It
> will still be cheaper than to buy a new printer
> 
Yes, I checked that site.  The printer is a USB Cannon IP1800. Chasing
links I found at linuxprinting I had to go to Japan to get a driver, but
it wouldn't work.

My HP Photosmart 3210 (ethernet) at home works on CentOS.  I may give
him that one, and buy a new printer for CINC House and me.

DaveM

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Re: [CentOS] Donation programme

2009-12-19 Thread Yves Bellefeuille
On Saturday 19 December 2009 06:57, Karanbir Singh wrote:

> The simple answer to that is that we are not ( the CentOS Project )
> in a place where we can take on financial donations. Which
> essentially boils down to the fact that if you were to contribute
> some money as a financial donation, it would not get used for
> anything constructive  and will not goto the project, it would goto
> one person - who may or may not even be doing any regular work in the
> project.

Don't you even have out-of-pocket expenses that could be repaid?

In any case, I would suggest that you change the statement about the 
donation programme on the Web page.

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Re: [CentOS] Optimizing CentOS for gigabit firewall

2009-12-19 Thread Peter Serwe
I'd argue handling it at the layer 3 level to be preferable than splitting
every customer into their own vlan.

If you split into vlans like that, if you have single-box customers, you'll
have to have subnet boundaries for every /30...

OTOH, vlan isolation for customers is pretty much the norm, as long as
you've got the IP's to waste, why not..

Peter
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Les Mikesell  wrote:

> Peter Serwe wrote:
> > So basically, you're saying you'd want to allow or disallow traffic
> > based on mac address?  Seems like you could put mac filters on a number
> > switches, Cisco being the most easily documented by Mr. Google.
> >
> > Be a lot faster than any kernel, and a total waste of BSD.  If you can
> > do it on Linux via some other mechanism, go for it.
> >
>
> Or perhaps use a VLAN trunk to the switch with the devices you want to
> isolate
> on different VLANs.  This gives you a different interface/subnet per VLAN
> for
> more natural control.
>
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[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 58, Issue 6

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   1. CESA-2009:1671 Important CentOS 4 i386 kernel - security and
  bug fix update (Tru Huynh)
   2. CESA-2009:1671 Important CentOS 4 x86_64 kernel - security
  and bug fix update (Tru Huynh)
   3. CESA-2009:1673 Critical CentOS 4 i386 seamonkey - security
  update (Tru Huynh)
   4. CESA-2009:1673 Critical CentOS 4 x86_64 seamonkey - security
  update (Tru Huynh)
   5. CESA-2009:1674 Critical CentOS 4 i386 firefox -   security
  update (Tru Huynh)
   6. CESA-2009:1674 Critical CentOS 4 x86_64 firefox - security
  update (Tru Huynh)
   7. CESA-2009:1680 Important CentOS 4 i386 xpdf - security update
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   8. CESA-2009:1680 Important CentOS 4 x86_64 xpdf -   security
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  12. CESA-2009:1682 Important CentOS 4 x86_64 kdegraphics -
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  13. CESA-2009:1648 Moderate CentOS 5 x86_64 ntp Update
  (Karanbir Singh)
  14. CESA-2009:1648 Moderate CentOS 5 i386 ntp Update (Karanbir Singh)


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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:00:39 +0100
From: Tru Huynh 
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2009:1671 Important CentOS 4 i386
kernel - security and bug fix update
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2009:1671

kernel security update for CentOS 4 i386:
https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2009-1671.html

The following updated file has been uploaded and is currently syncing to
the mirrors:

i386:
updates/i386/RPMS/kernel-2.6.9-89.0.18.EL.i586.rpm
updates/i386/RPMS/kernel-2.6.9-89.0.18.EL.i686.rpm
updates/i386/RPMS/kernel-devel-2.6.9-89.0.18.EL.i586.rpm
updates/i386/RPMS/kernel-devel-2.6.9-89.0.18.EL.i686.rpm
updates/i386/RPMS/kernel-hugemem-2.6.9-89.0.18.EL.i686.rpm
updates/i386/RPMS/kernel-hugemem-devel-2.6.9-89.0.18.EL.i686.rpm
updates/i386/RPMS/kernel-smp-2.6.9-89.0.18.EL.i586.rpm
updates/i386/RPMS/kernel-smp-2.6.9-89.0.18.EL.i686.rpm
updates/i386/RPMS/kernel-smp-devel-2.6.9-89.0.18.EL.i586.rpm
updates/i386/RPMS/kernel-smp-devel-2.6.9-89.0.18.EL.i686.rpm
updates/i386/RPMS/kernel-xenU-2.6.9-89.0.18.EL.i686.rpm
updates/i386/RPMS/kernel-xenU-devel-2.6.9-89.0.18.EL.i686.rpm
updates/i386/RPMS/kernel-doc-2.6.9-89.0.18.EL.noarch.rpm

source:
updates/SRPMS/kernel-2.6.9-89.0.18.EL.src.rpm

You may update your CentOS-4 i386 installations by running the command:

yum update kernel\*

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:01:23 +0100
From: Tru Huynh 
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2009:1671 Important CentOS 4 x86_64
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2009:1671

kernel security update for CentOS 4 x86_64:
https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2009-1671.html

The following updated file has been uploaded and is currently syncing to
the mirrors:

x86_64:
updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-2.6.9-89.0.18.EL.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-devel-2.6.9-89.0.18.EL.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-doc-2.6.9-89.0.18.EL.noarch.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-largesmp-2.6.9-89.0.18.EL.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-largesmp-devel-2.6.9-89.0.18.EL.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-smp-2.6.9-89.0.18.EL.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-smp-devel-2.6.9-89.0.18.EL.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-xenU-2.6.9-89.0.18.EL.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-xenU-devel-2.6.9-89.0.18.EL.x86_64.rpm

source:
updates/SRPMS/kernel-2.6.9-89.0.18.EL.src.rpm

You may update your CentOS-4 x86_64 installations by ru

Re: [CentOS] Optimizing CentOS for gigabit firewall

2009-12-19 Thread Les Mikesell
Peter Serwe wrote:
> So basically, you're saying you'd want to allow or disallow traffic 
> based on mac address?  Seems like you could put mac filters on a number 
> switches, Cisco being the most easily documented by Mr. Google.
> 
> Be a lot faster than any kernel, and a total waste of BSD.  If you can 
> do it on Linux via some other mechanism, go for it.
> 

Or perhaps use a VLAN trunk to the switch with the devices you want to isolate 
on different VLANs.  This gives you a different interface/subnet per VLAN for 
more natural control.

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Re: [CentOS] College student printer for CentOS 5.4 x86_64?

2009-12-19 Thread fred smith
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 07:28:24AM -0800, MHR wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 4:48 AM, Phil Savoie  wrote:
> > David McGuffey wrote:
> >>
> >> What would the community recommend? His needs are simple...mostly B&W
> >> papers.  On rare occasions he needs to print a paper with color
> >> photos/graphs embedded. Not looking to spend a lot, just enough to
> >> satisfy the requirement.
> >>
> >
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > I have 2 lasers one BW and the other colour.  The BW printer is a
> > Brother 5250DN  (N for network) and a samsung CLP-310 also network
> > capable.  The samsung comes with linux drivers on a CD.  Both are ery
> > affordable and work well with linux.
> >
> 
> I use a Brother HL2140 - it runs between $40 and $120, depending on
> where you get it, and the toner cartridges are around $35 or less
> each.  It works just fine with CentOS (I'd bet any Brother printer
> does) under CUPS, but you might have to do a little google searching
> to find the right driver.  It's a USB-only printer, which has its
> advantages and disadvantages.
> 
> Caveat: the toner cartridge is only good for about 3000 copies, and
> it's kind of small, unlike a lot of others.  However, the whole
> printer is simplicity itself, the toner and drum cartridges are
> trivial to replace, and it has a per-sheet feeder for special paper
> needs.

One more data point: My Brother HL2070N works great on linux. no hassles,
no searching to find drivers. Brother HL2060 driver works like a charm.
but it's a discontinued model. now ther eis HL2170 which seems
to be similar and I'd guess it also works fine, but I don't know that.

> I would avoid Samsung printers (now) because most of the people I've
> heard from about them indicate that the inexpensive ones are
> inexpensive for a reason (i.e., cheap crap), unlike Brother.  Any HP
> would be fine - they have great Linux support.  I would also avoid
> Canon (inkjets) like the plague - the color is great, but they break
> down frequently, if you can find a Linux driver for them.  My wife has
> a Canon on her Windows PC, and it is the fifth or sixth of a series of
> "free" printers we got over a period of a few years, all due to
> warranty replacements (the others all failed), plus their newer
> printers have custom ink cartridges that are expensive and getting
> smaller.  Don't know about Canon lasers, although Canon has been
> extremely Linux-unfriendly with their printers (love their cameras).

No experience with Samsung printers. I've heard of some people having
good results, some not.

> 
> I would also avoid anything by Lexmark - I've never had any good
> results with them, and I've never heard of any, either.  Don't even
> know if you can use them with Linux

Lexmark inkjets for sure are almost universally unsupported on Linux.
Years ago they had a fairly high-end inkjet with a PostScript engine
pasted onto the back (under a plastic bubble) and it worked great. I
wore one of 'em out. but the ink is a killer.

I've heard that their laser printers are good and do work on LInux,
but again I have no experience.

I'm certainly pleased with my Brother laser. it's printed somewhere
in the range of 4000-5000 pages on the original toner cartridge and
one replacement. the replacement is near ready for another replacement,
but that's better life than they claim. It "just works."

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Re: [CentOS] DRBD

2009-12-19 Thread Fabian Arrotin
Scott McClanahan wrote:
> Would any of you be comfortable running the drbd packages from the
> extras repo?  If so, any particular version .. I notice 8.0, 8.2, 8.3.
> I'll do my own due diligence but just curious if the list has any
> implementation based feedback.  Thanks.
> 

I've used DRBD on several machines and different flavors with great 
satisfaction. Of course if you have to begin now a drbd cluster you'd 
better use the latest version.
On the other hand we have still DRBD/Ha clusters running on CentOS 4.x 
with DRBD 7  ;-)

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Re: [CentOS] Donation programme

2009-12-19 Thread MHR
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Karanbir Singh  wrote:
>
> The simple answer to that is that we are not ( the CentOS Project ) in a
> place where we can take on financial donations. Which essentially boils
> down to the fact that if you were to contribute some money as a
> financial donation, it would not get used for anything constructive  and
> will not goto the project, it would goto one person - who may or may not
> even be doing any regular work in the project.
>
> so your assumption on this is actually wrong: financial donations are
> actively refused at this time. If either you or anyone else are
> contributing funds using any means, you should stop doing that.
>

This is sad - you guys do incredible work for nothing, other than the
satisfaction you must get and all the accolades we can heap on you,
and there's no way we, your community, can contribute.

Is there anything we, or I, can do to help out with this?  I feel like
a leech and I hate to feel that way.

I am not currently associated with the CentOS project in any way,
shape or form, but would love to help out, especially if it means
getting funding to the project.  It's just wrong that there isn't any.

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Re: [CentOS] College student printer for CentOS 5.4 x86_64?

2009-12-19 Thread MHR
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 4:48 AM, Phil Savoie  wrote:
> David McGuffey wrote:
>>
>> What would the community recommend? His needs are simple...mostly B&W
>> papers.  On rare occasions he needs to print a paper with color
>> photos/graphs embedded. Not looking to spend a lot, just enough to
>> satisfy the requirement.
>>
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> I have 2 lasers one BW and the other colour.  The BW printer is a
> Brother 5250DN  (N for network) and a samsung CLP-310 also network
> capable.  The samsung comes with linux drivers on a CD.  Both are ery
> affordable and work well with linux.
>

I use a Brother HL2140 - it runs between $40 and $120, depending on
where you get it, and the toner cartridges are around $35 or less
each.  It works just fine with CentOS (I'd bet any Brother printer
does) under CUPS, but you might have to do a little google searching
to find the right driver.  It's a USB-only printer, which has its
advantages and disadvantages.

Caveat: the toner cartridge is only good for about 3000 copies, and
it's kind of small, unlike a lot of others.  However, the whole
printer is simplicity itself, the toner and drum cartridges are
trivial to replace, and it has a per-sheet feeder for special paper
needs.

I strongly recommend doing a lot of searching for each purchase of
toner and drum cartridges because they vary widely in price, though
not a whole lot in quality, and they are constantly changing (applies
to all printer supplies).

I used to have a Minolta laser printer that was a fair bit more
expensive on the toner and drums, but they also lasted a lot longer
(6000 sheets per toner, 20,000+ per drum).  One day, I couldn't get it
to stop printing gray all over every page, so I found the Brother.

I would avoid Samsung printers (now) because most of the people I've
heard from about them indicate that the inexpensive ones are
inexpensive for a reason (i.e., cheap crap), unlike Brother.  Any HP
would be fine - they have great Linux support.  I would also avoid
Canon (inkjets) like the plague - the color is great, but they break
down frequently, if you can find a Linux driver for them.  My wife has
a Canon on her Windows PC, and it is the fifth or sixth of a series of
"free" printers we got over a period of a few years, all due to
warranty replacements (the others all failed), plus their newer
printers have custom ink cartridges that are expensive and getting
smaller.  Don't know about Canon lasers, although Canon has been
extremely Linux-unfriendly with their printers (love their cameras).

I would also avoid anything by Lexmark - I've never had any good
results with them, and I've never heard of any, either.  Don't even
know if you can use them with Linux

I'd stick with Brother or HP.

Okay, that's a lot, probably too much.

Good luck!

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Re: [CentOS] College student printer for CentOS 5.4 x86_64?

2009-12-19 Thread Bob McConnell
Phil Savoie wrote:
> David McGuffey wrote:
>> Oldest son came back from college and wants a printer for his Dell
>> laptop.  I built it with CentOS 5.3 x86_64 several months ago and will
>> upgrade it to 5.4
>>
>> The Cannon printer he now has (bought with the laptop and Vista through
>> the university book store), doesn't seem to have linux drivers. I built
>> the machine with Vista and CentOS in dual-boot, so he could manage his
>> iTunes and use the printer under Vista.  He does almost all his college
>> work under CentOS.  Most of his papers are submitted electronically, but
>> occasionally he has to print one.
>>
>> What would the community recommend? His needs are simple...mostly B&W
>> papers.  On rare occasions he needs to print a paper with color
>> photos/graphs embedded. Not looking to spend a lot, just enough to
>> satisfy the requirement.
>>
>> DaveM
>>
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> I have 2 lasers one BW and the other colour.  The BW printer is a
> Brother 5250DN  (N for network) and a samsung CLP-310 also network
> capable.  The samsung comes with linux drivers on a CD.  Both are ery
> affordable and work well with linux.

HP has several consumer level laser printers available, most of them 
with Postscript built in. I have a CP1518ni which I got at Sam's Club 
for US$289. No problems using it from Ubuntu, Slackware, Fedora or 
CentOS. Even with the 1/3 capacity toner cartridges it came with, it 
cost less than just the ink jet cartridges would have before we had to 
buy another set.

Bob McConnell
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Re: [CentOS] College student printer for CentOS 5.4 x86_64?

2009-12-19 Thread Phil Savoie
David McGuffey wrote:
> Oldest son came back from college and wants a printer for his Dell
> laptop.  I built it with CentOS 5.3 x86_64 several months ago and will
> upgrade it to 5.4
> 
> The Cannon printer he now has (bought with the laptop and Vista through
> the university book store), doesn't seem to have linux drivers. I built
> the machine with Vista and CentOS in dual-boot, so he could manage his
> iTunes and use the printer under Vista.  He does almost all his college
> work under CentOS.  Most of his papers are submitted electronically, but
> occasionally he has to print one.
> 
> What would the community recommend? His needs are simple...mostly B&W
> papers.  On rare occasions he needs to print a paper with color
> photos/graphs embedded. Not looking to spend a lot, just enough to
> satisfy the requirement.
> 
> DaveM
> 

Hi Dave,

I have 2 lasers one BW and the other colour.  The BW printer is a
Brother 5250DN  (N for network) and a samsung CLP-310 also network
capable.  The samsung comes with linux drivers on a CD.  Both are ery
affordable and work well with linux.

Phil

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Re: [CentOS] College student printer for CentOS 5.4 x86_64?

2009-12-19 Thread Robert Heller
At Sat, 19 Dec 2009 05:09:03 +0100 CentOS mailing list  
wrote:

> 
> 
> > What would the community recommend? His needs are simple...mostly B&W
> > papers.  On rare occasions he needs to print a paper with color
> > photos/graphs embedded. Not looking to spend a lot, just enough to
> > satisfy the requirement.
> 
> I wouldn't buy a color printer at all.
> I assume, every decent college has some sort of print-shop on the campus
> where you can make high-quality color printouts for pennies.
> For black&white, I'd buy a decent laser printer.
> Personally, I don't own a printer anymore since finishing university - I
> print everything (usually a couple of pages per month) at work.
> If I'd have to buy one now, I'd look for an appropriate Brother model.
> They seem to have decent support for Linux.

Right.  *Laser* printers are way *cheaper* than inkjets.  (Really!)  A
printer that speak PostScript is instantly plug-and-play for a Linux
system (any distro, any version).


> 
> 
> cheers,
> Rainer
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Re: [CentOS] Donation programme

2009-12-19 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 12/19/2009 02:02 AM, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
> Is there any decision about the donation programme?
>
> The Web page still says: "If you are looking to make a cash dontation to
> the CentOS Project, please check back here after August 15th, 2009."
>
> I assume that donations aren't refused, but is there a suggested amount,
> as there used to be?
>

The simple answer to that is that we are not ( the CentOS Project ) in a 
place where we can take on financial donations. Which essentially boils 
down to the fact that if you were to contribute some money as a 
financial donation, it would not get used for anything constructive  and 
will not goto the project, it would goto one person - who may or may not 
even be doing any regular work in the project.

so your assumption on this is actually wrong: financial donations are 
actively refused at this time. If either you or anyone else are 
contributing funds using any means, you should stop doing that.

Regards,

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Re: [CentOS] google gears on 64 bit centos 5.4?

2009-12-19 Thread James Hogarth
XPI is the package format for firefox extensions

http://pickup.nieir.com.au/gears/gears-linux-x86_64-opt-0.5.34.0.xpi

There's the one I'm using which works fine for all our stuff for native
gears on 64bit firefox 3.5 ...

The RPM I'm installing just includes a pretweaked FF profile that already
has that XPI installed along with some other bits desired by default.

2009/12/18 Dave >

> On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 12:12 AM, James Hogarth 
> wrote:
> > I have an RPM package for a default firefox profile I deploy to our boxes
> -
> > that contains a 64bit gears install from somewhere. google linux
> 64bit
> > gears - there's plenty of places with it compiled to XPI thing it is
> > r3409 or something like that which is most recent working version -
> 0.5.33
> > 
> >
> > if you need it let me know and I'll mail my XPI
>
> Having a copy of your rpm to look at would be nice. But understanding
> what is in it and how it was constructed would be even better. Maybe I
> am out of my depth, I have no idea what XPI is, need rtfm.
>
> mahalo,
> Dave
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Re: [CentOS] Donation programme

2009-12-19 Thread Mathieu Baudier
Really funny, I was just thinking of this this morning as well!
(Christmas spirit I guess, or the gratefulness for latest bunch of 5.4
updates...)

I support the question and add:
It there a way to get receipts, etc. in order to book such a donation
as a company charge/expense?
Is the target organization by chance somehow registered in the European Union?

On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 03:02, Yves Bellefeuille  wrote:
> Is there any decision about the donation programme?
>
> The Web page still says: "If you are looking to make a cash dontation to
> the CentOS Project, please check back here after August 15th, 2009."
>
> I assume that donations aren't refused, but is there a suggested amount,
> as there used to be?
>
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Re: [CentOS] College student printer for CentOS 5.4 x86_64?

2009-12-19 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 20:20 -0500, David McGuffey wrote:
> Oldest son came back from college and wants a printer for his Dell
> laptop.  I built it with CentOS 5.3 x86_64 several months ago and will
> upgrade it to 5.4
> 
> The Cannon printer he now has (bought with the laptop and Vista through
> the university book store), doesn't seem to have linux drivers. 

what model printer is this? Did you check http://www.linuxprinting.org?
You may also want to take a look at turboprint www.turboprint.info , it
is commercial, but offer good quality drivers for a lot of printers. It
will still be cheaper than to buy a new printer

Louis

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