Re: [CentOS-docs] Suggestion for how to section: easy way to install the JDK?
On 10/09/2010 04:33 AM, Milos Blazevic wrote: Bob Stine wrote: Milos Blazivec wrote: /... I am, in fact, interested in making adjustments to the Wiki / /page - but sadly not the ones you proposed Bob, since the just won't do / /the trick./ Hmm. I ran the executed the bin file, edited /etc/profile so that PATH included the bin directory of the sun jdk directory, added environment variable JDK_HOME, deleted the /usr/bin/java symlink from java - /etc/alternative/java, and everything works, or at least well enough for me to run the Eclipse C++ IDE, which was my goal. Maybe adding the jdk was unnecessary for Eclipse to work? Could you unpack just won't do, or point to a discussion of the issue? What I meant is that the instructions you suggested in your first e-mail are taken from: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/install-linux-64-rpm-138254.html and are all but comprehenssive, let alone appropriate for beginners. These installation instructions have been accompanying Sun Java as long as I can remember, and strangely, no one cared to mention 'em in the Wiki page... don't you think that's kinda odd? I don't - 'cause they don't work! This second part (editing /etc/profiles, deleting symlinks and editing PATH...) is NOT what you mentioned in your first e-mail. However, in my honest oppinion, this is still not the correct way to do this. What you did, is that you probably got it to work for Your particular purpose by resorting to an unconventional method (i.e. circumvent the mechanism intended for this purpose, rather than a by-the-book approach). By solving the problem this way, sooner or later you'll end up breaking something. Maintainance may prove difficult later For me, by-the-book is using alternatives utility for this purpose - intended by the makers way to handle this kind of issues. (switching between different mail servers, etc.) Using alternatives in the context of Java is 100% useless for ordinary users who do not want to use the stock gcj or openjdk packages ( and therefore replace them with Sun's packages). As far as I have seen on the few hundreds workstations that I maintain + the requests in the IRC channel, users only need to run - browser java plugin ( solved by installing Sun's jre + a convenient ln -s already mentioned before in this thread - java ( the binary, as in java -Xmx400m -DuseDesktop=true -Dsun.java2d.pmoffscreen=false -jar /usr/share/jalbum/JAlbum.jar ) in order to run .jar applications - the libs needed by Eclipse, also mentioned before in the thread Better idea is to adjust symlink to point to the desired binary, rather than editing PATH variable, deleting the symlink,... At least the jre package (and I am almost sure jdk too) from Sun comes with the following structure: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Apr 10 01:25 default - /usr/java/latest drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 Jun 28 23:34 jre1.6.0_20 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Jun 28 23:35 latest - /usr/java/jre1.6.0_20 Using /usr/java/latest and / or /usr/java/default in your scripts makes them immune to upgrades, as long as you stick with Sun's packages ( which - sad but true - make the java-openjdk / gcj packages useless and offer ( for the moment ) better compatibility with the real world. At least from I where I stand. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Suggestion for how to section: easy way to install the JDK?
On 09/10/10 08:32, Manuel Wolfshant wrote: snip At least the jre package (and I am almost sure jdk too) from Sun comes with the following structure: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Apr 10 01:25 default - /usr/java/latest drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 Jun 28 23:34 jre1.6.0_20 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Jun 28 23:35 latest - /usr/java/jre1.6.0_20 Using /usr/java/latest and / or /usr/java/default in your scripts makes them immune to upgrades, as long as you stick with Sun's packages ( which - sad but true - make the java-openjdk / gcj packages useless and offer ( for the moment ) better compatibility with the real world. At least from I where I stand. Are these redistributable? I'm sure they are as Red Hat has Sun's Java packages on it's RHEL Supplementary disk for RHEL5 which it (re)distributes to customers. In which case why doesn't someone just repackage these and stick them in CentOS Extras/rpmforge or somewhere and the problem largely goes away. Or am I missing something? If we had decent packages that Just Worked, we wouldn't need convoluted documentation on how to install Java. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] but what if i don't care about centos 4?
absolutely serious question -- i appreciate that it's important to still document how things are done in centos 4, but i have precisely zero interest in that. given how long centos 5 has been out, and that centos 6 is not that far down the road given the alleged release schedule for RHEL 6 (rumoured end of year), i plan on investing my time in centos 5 and 6 exclusively. so while i'm more than happy to write/update docs, i won't be spending any time whatsoever with centos 4. so what does one do under those circumstances? again, this is a perfectly serious question. i know it's not fair to short-change centos 4 -- i just have no interest in it. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] but what if i don't care about centos 4?
On Sat, 2010-10-09 at 05:58 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: so while i'm more than happy to write/update docs, i won't be spending any time whatsoever with centos 4. so what does one do under those circumstances? again, this is a perfectly serious question. i know it's not fair to short-change centos 4 -- i just have no interest in it. rday --- Perhaps it bit you or something or rubbed you the wrong way? Ohh, CentOS 4 is getting jealous already. Where's the love? John ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] but what if i don't care about centos 4?
On 9 October 2010 11:52, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: in any event, the question remains -- should all centos doc pages give equally meticulous coverage to both centos 4 and 5? The CentOS wiki exists to provide documentation for all CentOS products. As CentOS-4 is a valid CentOS product, it should have the same treatment as C-5 and (in the future) C-6. That being said, a wiki page could be written / maintained for C-5, with an note mentioning any C-4 variance at the appropriate place. Also, there are cases where a page is only relevant for C-4, C-5 or C-X. Alan. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Suggestion for how to section: easy way to install the JDK?
On 09/10/10 13:13, R P Herrold wrote: On Sat, 9 Oct 2010, Ned Slider wrote: Are these redistributable? I'm sure they are as Red Hat has Sun's Java packages on it's RHEL Supplementary disk for RHEL5 which it (re)distributes to customers. No, not without exposing oneself to some liability and obligations to Sun / Oracle. -- Russ herrold OK, thanks for that Russ, and probably explains why no one has done the obvious before now! Regards. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Suggestion for how to section: easy way to install the JDK?
On 10/09/2010 12:47 PM, Ned Slider wrote: On 09/10/10 08:32, Manuel Wolfshant wrote: snip At least the jre package (and I am almost sure jdk too) from Sun comes with the following structure: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Apr 10 01:25 default - /usr/java/latest drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 Jun 28 23:34 jre1.6.0_20 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Jun 28 23:35 latest - /usr/java/jre1.6.0_20 Using /usr/java/latest and / or /usr/java/default in your scripts makes them immune to upgrades, as long as you stick with Sun's packages ( which - sad but true - make the java-openjdk / gcj packages useless and offer ( for the moment ) better compatibility with the real world. At least from I where I stand. Are these redistributable? I'm sure they are as Red Hat has Sun's Java packages on it's RHEL Supplementary disk for RHEL5 which it (re)distributes to customers. As Russ has said, they are not. In which case why doesn't someone just repackage these and stick them in CentOS Extras/rpmforge or somewhere and the problem largely goes away. Or am I missing something? Yup, you miss the fact that RH [ probably ] has agreements which allow them to redistribute some binary-only packages (even flash player) via a special channel to their customers. If we had decent packages that Just Worked, we wouldn't need convoluted documentation on how to install Java. Indeed. Unfortunately we are not there. Not yet. However a 3 steps procedure ( 1) download from Sun; 2) install rpm 3) create a symlink for your browser ) is not that bad, given the previous options that we had. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] Suggestion for how to section: easy way to install the JDK?
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010, Manuel Wolfshant wrote: As Russ has said, they are not. More context (said in our back archive, but recapped recently [and it should have crossed http://planet.centos.org/ when I issued this update] at http://orcorc.blogspot.com/2010/08/chickens-coming-home-to-roost.html which point to the primary source of the analysis of problems a license and rights review turned up) Indeed. Unfortunately we are not there. Not yet. Really, I do not see a future in which Oracle CAN sufficiently 'free' Java at least through v 1.6 series; and the related test kit [assuming for the sake of argument that it was INCLINED to do so]. The upshot of recent LSB calls is that the 'trial use' of Java will be withdrawn in the upcoming 4.1 refresh, until and unless this future brightens [probably at least 2-3 years] -- Russ herrold ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-announce] CESA-2010:0754 Important CentOS 3 i386 cups - security update
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2010:0754 cups security update for CentOS 3 i386: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2010-0754.html The following updated file has been uploaded and is currently syncing to the mirrors: i386: updates/i386/RPMS/cups-1.1.17-13.3.70.i386.rpm updates/i386/RPMS/cups-devel-1.1.17-13.3.70.i386.rpm updates/i386/RPMS/cups-libs-1.1.17-13.3.70.i386.rpm source: updates/SRPMS/cups-1.1.17-13.3.70.src.rpm You may update your CentOS-3 i386 installations by running the command: yum update cups Tru -- Tru Huynh (mirrors, CentOS-3 i386/x86_64 Package Maintenance) http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xBEFA581B pgpOctzCenzeE.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-announce] CESA-2010:0754 Important CentOS 3 x86_64 cups - security update
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2010:0754 cups security update for CentOS 3 x86_64: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2010-0754.html The following updated file has been uploaded and is currently syncing to the mirrors: x86_64: updates/x86_64/RPMS/cups-1.1.17-13.3.70.x86_64.rpm updates/x86_64/RPMS/cups-devel-1.1.17-13.3.70.x86_64.rpm updates/x86_64/RPMS/cups-libs-1.1.17-13.3.70.i386.rpm updates/x86_64/RPMS/cups-libs-1.1.17-13.3.70.x86_64.rpm source: updates/SRPMS/cups-1.1.17-13.3.70.src.rpm You may update your CentOS-3 x86_64 installations by running the command: yum update cups Tru -- Tru Huynh (mirrors, CentOS-3 i386/x86_64 Package Maintenance) http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xBEFA581B pgpxNT2O7wMqm.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-announce] CESA-2010:0750 Important CentOS 3 x86_64 xpdf - security update
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2010:0750 xpdf security update for CentOS 3 x86_64: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2010-0750.html The following updated file has been uploaded and is currently syncing to the mirrors: x86_64: updates/x86_64/RPMS/xpdf-2.02-19.el3.x86_64.rpm source: updates/SRPMS/xpdf-2.02-19.el3.src.rpm You may update your CentOS-3 x86_64 installations by running the command: yum update xpdf Tru -- Tru Huynh (mirrors, CentOS-3 i386/x86_64 Package Maintenance) http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xBEFA581B pgprVRl5eQtzl.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-announce] CESA-2010:0751 Important CentOS 4 i386 xpdf - security update
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2010:0751 xpdf security update for CentOS 4 i386: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2010-0751.html The following updated file has been uploaded and is currently syncing to the mirrors: i386: updates/i386/RPMS/xpdf-3.00-24.el4_8.1.i386.rpm source: updates/SRPMS/xpdf-3.00-24.el4_8.1.src.rpm You may update your CentOS-4 i386 installations by running the command: yum update xpdf Tru -- Tru Huynh (mirrors, CentOS-3 i386/x86_64 Package Maintenance) http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xBEFA581B pgppcxKpzTcH4.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-announce] CESA-2010:0751 Important CentOS 4 x86_64 xpdf - security update
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2010:0751 xpdf security update for CentOS 4 x86_64: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2010-0751.html The following updated file has been uploaded and is currently syncing to the mirrors: x86_64: updates/x86_64/RPMS/xpdf-3.00-24.el4_8.1.x86_64.rpm source: updates/SRPMS/xpdf-3.00-24.el4_8.1.src.rpm You may update your CentOS-4 x86_64 installations by running the command: yum update xpdf Tru -- Tru Huynh (mirrors, CentOS-3 i386/x86_64 Package Maintenance) http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xBEFA581B pgpxnbrpBKArp.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-announce] CESA-2010:0752 Important CentOS 4 i386 gpdf - security update
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2010:0752 gpdf security update for CentOS 4 i386: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2010-0752.html The following updated file has been uploaded and is currently syncing to the mirrors: i386: updates/i386/RPMS/gpdf-2.8.2-7.7.2.el4_8.7.i386.rpm source: updates/SRPMS/gpdf-2.8.2-7.7.2.el4_8.7.src.rpm You may update your CentOS-4 i386 installations by running the command: yum update gpdf Tru -- Tru Huynh (mirrors, CentOS-3 i386/x86_64 Package Maintenance) http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xBEFA581B pgpozmT0gF05k.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-announce] CESA-2010:0752 Important CentOS 4 x86_64 gpdf - security update
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2010:0752 gpdf security update for CentOS 4 x86_64: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2010-0752.html The following updated file has been uploaded and is currently syncing to the mirrors: x86_64: updates/x86_64/RPMS/gpdf-2.8.2-7.7.2.el4_8.7.x86_64.rpm source: updates/SRPMS/gpdf-2.8.2-7.7.2.el4_8.7.src.rpm You may update your CentOS-4 x86_64 installations by running the command: yum update gpdf Tru -- Tru Huynh (mirrors, CentOS-3 i386/x86_64 Package Maintenance) http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xBEFA581B pgp5FUIXVpFFD.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-announce] CESA-2010:0755 Important CentOS 4 i386 cups - security update
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2010:0755 cups security update for CentOS 4 i386: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2010-0755.html The following updated file has been uploaded and is currently syncing to the mirrors: i386: updates/i386/RPMS/cups-1.1.22-0.rc1.9.32.el4.10.i386.rpm updates/i386/RPMS/cups-devel-1.1.22-0.rc1.9.32.el4.10.i386.rpm updates/i386/RPMS/cups-libs-1.1.22-0.rc1.9.32.el4.10.i386.rpm source: updates/SRPMS/cups-1.1.22-0.rc1.9.32.el4.10.src.rpm You may update your CentOS-4 i386 installations by running the command: yum update cups Tru -- Tru Huynh (mirrors, CentOS-3 i386/x86_64 Package Maintenance) http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xBEFA581B pgpv1bp5xbEna.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-announce] CESA-2010:0755 Important CentOS 4 x86_64 cups - security update
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2010:0755 cups security update for CentOS 4 x86_64: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2010-0755.html The following updated file has been uploaded and is currently syncing to the mirrors: x86_64: updates/x86_64/RPMS/cups-1.1.22-0.rc1.9.32.el4.10.x86_64.rpm updates/x86_64/RPMS/cups-devel-1.1.22-0.rc1.9.32.el4.10.x86_64.rpm updates/x86_64/RPMS/cups-libs-1.1.22-0.rc1.9.32.el4.10.i386.rpm updates/x86_64/RPMS/cups-libs-1.1.22-0.rc1.9.32.el4.10.x86_64.rpm source: updates/SRPMS/cups-1.1.22-0.rc1.9.32.el4.10.src.rpm You may update your CentOS-4 x86_64 installations by running the command: yum update cups Tru -- Tru Huynh (mirrors, CentOS-3 i386/x86_64 Package Maintenance) http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xBEFA581B pgpAtTUdWB3bA.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-announce] CESA-2010:0753 Important CentOS 4 i386 kdegraphics - security update
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2010:0753 kdegraphics security update for CentOS 4 i386: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2010-0753.html The following updated file has been uploaded and is currently syncing to the mirrors: i386: updates/i386/RPMS/kdegraphics-3.3.1-18.el4_8.1.i386.rpm updates/i386/RPMS/kdegraphics-devel-3.3.1-18.el4_8.1.i386.rpm source: updates/SRPMS/kdegraphics-3.3.1-18.el4_8.1.src.rpm You may update your CentOS-4 i386 installations by running the command: yum update kdegraphics Tru -- Tru Huynh (mirrors, CentOS-3 i386/x86_64 Package Maintenance) http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xBEFA581B pgpfDwP5J89A1.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-virt] vmware datastore mounted by NFS
I recently moved my vmware datastore from a local disk partition to an NFS share (in preparation for some other system changes that are still in progress). In the init sequence, vmware loads before the NFS share gets mounted, so it checks the datastore, and finds it empty. Makes it hard to start a VM. :( As a temporary fix, I added the line service vmware restart to rc.local, but I consider that a kludge. I find in rc3.d the files S19vmware and S25netfs. Questions: 1. If I change S19vmware to S27vmware, that should bring up the NFS file system before VMware starts, correct? 2. Are the NFS file systems mounted at that point in init? 3. If I change the boot order of vmware, will vmware change it back to 19 next time I have to run vmware-config.pl? Ted Miller Indiana, USA ___ CentOS-virt mailing list CentOS-virt@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-virt
[CentOS-es] Mira estoooo
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Re: [CentOS-es] Mira estoooo
Hola Lista entiendo que como usuarios hagamos muchas memeces (hasta yo las hago) pero, podriamos tener varios email para eso?? y en cuanto a la moderación... no existe un modo de filtrar los contenidos? en fin normalmente no digo nada, pero ya recibo bastante spam bueno, tambien pedir disculpas, pero esta vez no pude contenerme miquel El 09/10/10 10:02, Pablo Fernando Carrión Ojeda escribió: Hooolaa!! tengo 1 secretito para contarte!!! Entra aca : http://elsecreto.de/ http://elsecreto.de/hjs42ar/ ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es -- /-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/ Miquel Pujante mique...@7serveis.net 7serveis.net http://www.7serveis.net http://mercadillo.7serveis.net http://www.7servicios.com i...@7serveis.net Menendez Pelai, 1 - 3 Botiga 2 08924 - Santa Coloma de Gramenet 93.501.73.65 622.673.455 Twitter: @miguelthepooh Facebook:miquel.puja...@gmail.com Google talk: miquel.puja...@gmail.com messenger: sy...@7servicios.com skype : miquel.7serveis /-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/ - Aquest missatge i, si escau, els fitxers annexos tenen caire confidencial, especialment pel que fa a les dades personals, i s'adrecen exclusivament al destinatari referenciat. Si l'ha rebut per error o se li ha fet arribar per qualsevol motiu, li preguem que ens ho comuniqui per aquesta mateixa via i el destrueixi o l'esborri, i que en tot cas s'abstingui d'utilitzar, reproduir, alterar, arxivar o comunicar a tercers aquest missatge i fitxers annexos, tot sota pena d'entrar en responsabilitats legals. L'emissor no garanteix la integritat, la rapidesa o la seguretat d'aquest correu, ni es responsabilitza de possibles perjudicis derivats de la captura, incorporacions de virus o qualsevol altre manipulació que facin tercers. - This message and any file attached to it, may contain confidential information. It is intended for the use of the addressee (s) of the message. If you are not an addressee and receive this mail by mistake, please inform the sender immediately. It is strictly forbidden to publish, use, spread, forward, print or copy this message or its attachments, without the express consent of the sender. ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
[CentOS-es] Problema resolución de DNS?
Buen día lista. Tengo un servidor contratado (VPS con Centos 5.5) en una empresa local (IPLAN). Hace unos día hubo un problema con la asignación de recursos a mi máquina virtual, y fue cambiada a otra máquina. Lo que ocurre ahora es lo siguiente. Cuando hago una pequeña prueba para ver si resuelve bien los DNS, funciona perfecto. Por ejemplo: host downloads.wordpress.org downloads.wordpress.org has address 72.233.56.138 downloads.wordpress.org has address 72.233.56.139 Me responde inmediatamente. Ahora cuando intento bajar un archivo desde la misma página con wget, demora muchos segundos en resolver el DNS para luego finalmente bajarlo. No se si se dañó algo en la configuración del VPS con los cambios que hubo. Yo revise la configuración de red con system-config-network-tui y está todo correcto. Hay algo que pueda hacer además de inspeccionar los logs? Muchas gracias Normando ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
[CentOS-es] Problema con yum
Hola amigos, le acabo de poner a mi server un repo que tengo en otra maquina en la red, pero a la hora de mandar a instalar algo cuando esta bajando el fichero primary.sqlite.bz2 http://www.udg.co.cu/fedora/releases/10/Everything/i386/os/repodata/primary.sqlite.bz2 me pone [Errno -1] Metadata file does not match checksum, he buscado una solucion pero las que e visto ninguna me funciona.. ayúdenme. ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Problema con yum
2010/10/9 Javier Iglesias Barban jib8...@gmail.com: Hola amigos, le acabo de poner a mi server un repo que tengo en otra maquina en la red, pero a la hora de mandar a instalar algo cuando esta bajando el fichero primary.sqlite.bz2 http://www.udg.co.cu/fedora/releases/10/Everything/i386/os/repodata/primary.sqlite.bz2 me pone [Errno -1] Metadata file does not match checksum, he buscado una solucion pero las que e visto ninguna me funciona.. ayúdenme. Prueba haciendo primero yum clean metadata y reintenta. -- Eduardo Grosclaude Universidad Nacional del Comahue Neuquen, Argentina ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Problema con yum
2010/10/9 Javier Iglesias Barban jib8...@gmail.com: Hola amigos, le acabo de poner a mi server un repo que tengo en otra maquina en la red, pero a la hora de mandar a instalar algo cuando esta bajando el fichero primary.sqlite.bz2 me pone [Errno -1] Metadata file does not match checksum, he buscado una solucion pero las que e visto ninguna me funciona.. ayúdenme. Prueba haciendo primero yum clean metadata y reintenta. Gracias amigo por responder pero ya probé con yum clean metadata y yum clean all y me sigue dado en mismo error... :-( ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%
We're just throwing blind assertions at each other, but since I don't want to go PC shopping just to pursue the argument, let's keep it theoretical. Which do you suppose is a harder task: Mac laptops have a big problem: they forgot to put the right mouse button... (and the keyboard layout is slightly non-standard) I'm personally quadruple booting (CentOS 5 / Ubuntu 10.4 / Mac OS 10.6 / RHEL 6 Beta 2) on a Mac Book Pro when on the road. This was the computer of my wife whose art academy only taught them Final Cut and Photoshop, so she's hooked to MacOS and thus Apple hardware (we are trying to ween her off, but she can't, no she can't... sad story, don't let your kids ever touch this...) The other day I had to make a demo of FLOSS Geographical Information System (GIS) software (QGIS, GRASS, PostGIS, etc.). I had prepared it on Ubuntu (because multi-touch touchpad is not working on CentOS 5, and you actually do need a right-click). PostgreSQL broke one hour before the demo, I could not uninstall/reinstall it (sic!). Re-booted to CentOS, set up the stuff, everything went smoothly, no surprise, did the demo (with an USB mouse). Try to setup such a complex software suite in one hour without a package management system. Mac is not an option in such cases. The harddrive broke after one year (minus two weeks: still under guarantee, pfeew...). BUT, I look cool when I sit in Berlin cafes with my laptop (although it starts to look very old-fashioned, since it is two/three years old and without unibody enclosure) Is this beautifully designed computer utter crap because it just has one mouse button? Is Ubuntu broken because you cannot play around with partitions as robustly as with CentOS? (of course, I was responsible for breaking the PostgreSQL: what killed me is that I could not reset it) Is CentOS useless because people who really need (certainly for good reasons) to run proprietary software such as Adobe CS or MS Office, just can't? That you found the right combination for yourself doesn't mean all others are worthless. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%
ObOnTopic: does anybody know if CentOS supports the MacBookPro7,1 model with the funky SATA controller? It's nontrivial to find any hard information about even kernel support, much less whether a given distro has included any of the relevant patches in its kernel. I don't mind OS X, but for some purposes I really prefer a linux-based desktop. If you already have the computer, I would recommend you to give a try to RHEL 6 Beta 2 and report to Red Hat any problem you have while they are still polishing their release. I was surprised, but they have been pretty helpful and motivated with issues that I reported which are specific to Apple hardware. As per my other mail, I would not recommend CentOS 5 on a Mac laptop anyhow (because of the touchpad), although this is still what I mostly do when traveling. Otherwise, Ubuntu is probably your safest bet (but it is a pretty fast moving target). In any case, I recommend you to partition your disk as soon as you get the computer and leave says 10 / 20 GB for a Linux. Even if it does not work today, it may (will) work in a few months, and it is more dangerous to repartition while you already have important data on your Mac OS. As long as you have the disk space reserved for it, it will be safe to try various Linux distributions over and over. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%
At Sat, 9 Oct 2010 11:06:20 +0100 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: On Saturday, October 09, 2010 01:32:59 Robert Heller wrote: At Fri, 8 Oct 2010 16:50:30 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: Which Linux distro? Why is there more than one? Why is there more than one make/model of car? Why is there more than one style of shirt, pants, shoe? Why is there more than one genre of music? Why is there more than one style of house? Why is there more then one team sport? Why is there only one Windows? :-D (sorry, couldn't resist... ;-) ) Not a problem. It in fact makes my point: Linux is about *choice*, MS-Windows is NOT. Most computer users don't want to take the time and effort to make an *intellegent* choice. Best, :-) Marko ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Robert Heller -- Get the Deepwoods Software FireFox Toolbar! Deepwoods Software-- Linux Installation and Administration http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Web Hosting, with CGI and Database hel...@deepsoft.com -- Contract Programming: C/C++, Tcl/Tk ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%
On 9/10/10 9:06 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: Why is there only one Windows? :-D (sorry, couldn't resist... ;-) ) There isn't. The original consumer edition (i.e. Win 95/98/ME) became the XBox. Regards, Ben signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Xen3.3 rpm for 32Bit?
Hi folks, I would like to test Xen3.3 on CentOS 5.5 on an older machine which is not 64bit capable. Since this is just a first impression test I do not want to fuzz with compiling the kernels and tools myself (that comes in a later step). Can someone please point me to a repo with 32bit Xen3.3 kernels for CentOS 5? GITCO supplies 64bit kernels only, and googling brought up nothing else. Thanks for any hint or help. Dirk ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%
On 9/10/10 11:12 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: XBox is a gaming console, not an operating system. You cannot install it on a generic PC hardware. Besides, AFAIK XBox's OS was based on WinNT and WinXP, not the 95/98/ME. It's been quite a few years since I looked at any of this so I might be wrong, but the changes between Win98 and WinME were building towards the project which eventually became the XBox. Things like improving the graphics support in ME, but stripping down (and generally messing up) the TCP/IP stack. Then that got folded into a fork of WinNT 5.x (Windows 2000 = NT 5.0 and XP = NT 5.1). Not that I cared, I'd already been using Slackware for years before ME was released. As for the XBox itself, yes the OS is customised for that kind of gaming platform, but it's still just a PC. It's not even a particularly powerful one. This page has the specs for the XBox: http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Getting_Started#3 Regards, Ben signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%
On 10/9/10 5:50 AM, Robert Heller wrote: Not a problem. It in fact makes my point: Linux is about *choice*, MS-Windows is NOT. Most computer users don't want to take the time and effort to make an *intellegent* choice. But most of the bazillion choices you are forced to make to set up a Linux system don't have an intelligent solution - they are just arbitrary differences maintained by the distributions, perhaps in some vain attempt to keep people from being able to change easily. It's no more about intelligence than the flavor of ice cream you like best, but more complicated because there are so many more non-standard ingredients. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%
On Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 09:24:53AM +0200, Mathieu Baudier wrote: If you already have the computer, I would recommend you to give a try to RHEL 6 Beta 2 and report to Red Hat any problem you have while they are still polishing their release. Ah, wonderful idea! I'm grabbing it now, and will try to find detailed release notes to see if it has anything about this controller. As per my other mail, I would not recommend CentOS 5 on a Mac laptop anyhow (because of the touchpad), although this is still what I mostly do when traveling. I know PPC linux releases could support command-click as right click, so I can only assume CentOS 5 could as well. (But I wouldn't know where to start looking for this information beyond a naive google search.) In any case, I recommend you to partition your disk as soon as you get the computer and leave says 10 / 20 GB for a Linux. Already done--I installed Bootcamp and rEFIt almost as soon as I booted the thing. ;-) At the time (about May-June or so) I tried three different distro installers before googling and realizing that no kernel at the time supported the MBP7,1. (So I'm cautiously optimistic about the RHEL6 beta.) --keith -- kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us pgpliFFBh0ZPK.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%
I know PPC linux releases could support command-click as right click, so I can only assume CentOS 5 could as well. (But I wouldn't know where to start looking for this information beyond a naive google search.) Yes I used to do so on PPC, but I never got it working on the MacBook Pro + CentOS (and I really spent a lot of time trying). I found a workaround using accessibility features but it is a bit heavy and with a few side effects (I can put it if you want though). In the end I end up doing the following: - I have a partition with shared data (documents, java source code, maven repository, etc.). - when I'm settled somewhere I use CentOS with a mouse - when I'm on the move I use Ubuntu (where the touchpad is working perfectly = the related driver was added around 2.6.27 if I'm not mistaken) - both OS link to the shared directories (I forced the Ubuntu user id to 500, in order to be compatible with CentOS) - dreaming of when RHEL/CentOS 6 is out and reporting bugs on RHEL 6 Beta 2 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] kmod-kvm for custom CentOS 5.5 kernel
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Ken Dechick k...@medent.com wrote: I have actual need to build a custom kernel.(Have to change Preemption model to 'server' and turn off Preempt the big kernel lock, ect) I have heard bits and pieces about these changing defaults in newer kernels but I haven't investigated that yet. This of course is not a problem at all, made my needed changes to the source code and successfully build both the standard and the Xen kernel using the rpmbuild guide from this site found here: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Custom_Kernel (snip) to make a long story short, mt 2.6.18-194 kernel has no available source rpms that I can use for my custom kernel. Do you mean no src.rpm of your custom kernel? If so, rpmbuild -bs will build it. Can anyone point me to a source package for kmod-kvm that will work with my 2.6.18-194.11.4.el5 kernel base?? I have spent 2 full days digging through packages on the web and I cannot come up with anything. kmod-kvm is built from kvm and it is kernel version independent, kABI-tracking. This means that, if your custom kernel is kABI compatible with the distro kernel, the kvm module will continue to work. Akemi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%
On Sat, Oct 09, 2010, Marko Vojinovic wrote: ... I don't believe that profit is the reason why Adobe and others don't offer a Linux version of their products. I would rather say it is incompetence to maintain the code that is portable across OS's. And that says something about the quality of their products and skill level of their programmers, IMNSHO. I think Linux community is actually better off not using any of that crap software, if possible (I wonder why flash player comes to my mind right now...). I really came to doubt the competence of Adobe's programmers when I tried installing Photoshop Elements on a Mac, but it wouldn't even try to install because I OS X installed on a case-sensitive file system. When I see this, it leads me to believe that they can't even bother for consistency in file/directory names, much less more important things. If their software had been designed and implemented in a way one would expect from a high-class professional commercial company, they would certainly have next to zero problems porting it to Linux and gaining additional market (no matter how slightly bigger, it's bigger nevertheless, and every buck counts). The fact they don't do it shows that they find it hard to maintain their code for a Linux platform. And that is a consequence of bad design and/or implementation of their software, not lack of market. See above. Bill -- INTERNET: b...@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax:(206) 232-9186 Skype: jwccsllc (206) 855-5792 Virtually everything is under federal control nowadays except the federal budget. -- Herman E. Talmadge, 1975 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%
On Fri, Oct 08, 2010, Les Mikesell wrote: On 10/8/10 5:55 PM, Warren Young wrote: ... Y'all may recall a different example: Word Perfect was also once offered on Linux for about a year, then pulled. OpenOffice wasn't even around at the time, so you can't blame competition. Corel had a near open field to play in, and still couldn't make a buck. Did you ever try that product? Even free it wouldn't have been a win against Word on Windows - which was getting bundled on most new PCs at the time anyway. Au contraire, In September 1997 when we installed our first Linux system in a mission-critical position, it was in a law office as a file and print server for a bunch of Windows machines. The office manager was bitching mightily that their productivity dropped by about 50% when they were forced to use MS-Word instead of WordPerfect. These were very good legal secretaries who hated having to reach for a mouse to do anything, and loved the ``Reveal Codes'' ability in WordPerfect. I had to laugh one day when I got a phone call where the caller's first words were ``I want Reveal Codes''. I do have one Linux system where I'm the resident Linux Geek where the user is a late '60s psychologist with few computer skills who loves it. When her Windows for Workgroups machine needed to be replaced, I offered to install Linux on a new machine with StarOffice (long before OpenOffice.org was around), etc. I told here that we could install Windows on the machine if she didn't like it. This was in mid-2001, and she's been happily using Linux since. She is very active politically, handling large numbers of Microsoft Office files through several election cycles without problems. The main software she uses now are OpenOffice.org, Thunderbird, and Firefox. On the other hand, when she wanted to do things with digital photos from here camera, she constantly had problems dealing with file transfers using a USB flash card reader, mostly properly unmounting and/or finding the proper data (she has a Psy.D. so is hardly a dummy). I suggested she get a Macbook when she needed a laptop, and I get far fewer calls for assistance on this than on the Linux box, and will probably replace the Linux system with an iMac when the Linux hardware goes south. In this case, she comes to me when there's an issue with the Linux system, and doesn't try to install software, and pretty much leaves things alone on the desktop. I rarely get calls for assistance on this system, far fewer than her Windows-Using friends and associates who are constantly dealing with malware (a fact that she frequently relishes as she tells them how she doesn't have these problems with her Linux system :-). That said, this woman is a friend of my wife's and gets my Geek services for free. I have tried to get my wife to use a Linux desktop to no avail, and had to give her a Mac Mini for her birthday to wean her away from her Windows system. I told her this was a present that was as much for me as for her, and she wouldn't have to listen to me curse every time I had to deal with her old Windows box (now I only curse when Microsoft Office 2008 for Mac hangs :-). Bill -- INTERNET: b...@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax:(206) 232-9186 Skype: jwccsllc (206) 855-5792 Virtually everything is under federal control nowadays except the federal budget. -- Herman E. Talmadge, 1975 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%
On 10/9/2010 2:33 PM, Bill Campbell wrote: On Fri, Oct 08, 2010, Les Mikesell wrote: On 10/8/10 5:55 PM, Warren Young wrote: ... Y'all may recall a different example: Word Perfect was also once offered on Linux for about a year, then pulled. OpenOffice wasn't even around at the time, so you can't blame competition. Corel had a near open field to play in, and still couldn't make a buck. Did you ever try that product? Even free it wouldn't have been a win against Word on Windows - which was getting bundled on most new PCs at the time anyway. Au contraire, In September 1997 when we installed our first Linux system in a mission-critical position, it was in a law office as a file and print server for a bunch of Windows machines. The office manager was bitching mightily that their productivity dropped by about 50% when they were forced to use MS-Word instead of WordPerfect. These were very good legal secretaries who hated having to reach for a mouse to do anything, and loved the ``Reveal Codes'' ability in WordPerfect. I had to laugh one day when I got a phone call where the caller's first words were ``I want Reveal Codes''. Yes!!! Reveal Codes is one of the very best things in WordPerfect. (yes, I do have PerfectOffice installed, but I cannot rely on it as at any point in time a Windoze update might render it useless) As for Perfect Office, Quattro can run circles around Excel when it comes to huge data files. Quattro's formula builder is totally logical and 'easy' vs. the convoluted Excel counterpart. All you have to do is look at 'history'. WordPerfect and Netscape are two prime examples. WordPerfect was becoming the defacto standard. Anybody remember WordStar? Most colleges were using WP and from the schools, you leave using what you learned on. Suddenly, every new computer came with Microsoft Windows installed 'and' a free install of Microsoft Office. Slowly, everyone stopped 'paying for' WP. Duh Netscape, same deal... free MSIE. Aside from this, Microsoft seems to love to make changes that break other vendor's software. I can't imagine the frustrations they must feel living in this world. WordPerfect, Adobe and just about everyone has had problems due to some 'upgrade' that broke something in their software. Adobe DW CS3 has a seriously broken browse to directory problem right now and they don't plan to fix it. This occurred during one of the service pack updates. Yet it seems Adobe has bowed to the might MS. If you click on email this in Acrobat, it opens Outlook in spite of it not being set as the default on the system. Need a spell checker in certain high end CAD programs, you have to install MSOffice? Somehow, I get the feeling that everytime Microsoft chooses to do something, at the top of their list is this question. How can this benefit more sales of Microsoft products and how can this negatively impact our perceived competition? Anybody remember OS2? Yeah it worked for a while, then Microsoft made 'changes'. Even IBM couldn't devote the resources into chasing the moving target. Sort of the same with WordPerfect and still is. We used to have a great working method for opening MSOffice docs in WP. Mostly gone at the moment, but supposedly back again in the latest release, but how long will that work and at what point will we lose the ability leaving us in 'broken state' in terms of doing business? Or, just give in and switch to MSO. It doesn't take much for business owners to switch... right or wrong. And, the final most obvious point. In the real world of business, Perfect Office is pretty much dead. OpenOffice is not a viable solution any more than Perfect Office. Since Microsoft has won this war, what has happened? Has anybody looked at the new Microsoft Office 2010 Pro package, or for that matter all Office 2010 releases? There are no longer any 'Upgrade' packages. You are now forced to buy the full version package at full version pricing. So now MSO Pro 2010 is like $450. Yes, I do feel as though they have over the years slowly bent my back over to where they finally have me in 'the position'. Yes now I'm stuck with MSO 2007, which has the worst nav system ever created, but I had to have it to handle files coming in from customers if they were docx and so on. And now I suppose I'll be forced into 2010 for some reason I don't know yet, but to accommodate my clients who move to it. Meanwhile, I bet there is some 'new wonderful feature' that will prevent Perfect Office or Open Office from being able to open something created in some certain way in MSO 2010, although this is just my speculation. Thanks to CentOS, I am not being forced into this position with regards to our servers and hope to never be forced into installing a Winders server ever, ever ever I do admire Microsoft's business philosophy, although I don't condone such and I could not sleep at night if I operated using those methods. I never feel
Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%
On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Bill Campbell cen...@celestial.com wrote: On the other hand, when she wanted to do things with digital photos from here camera, she constantly had problems dealing with file transfers using a USB flash card reader, mostly properly unmounting and/or finding the proper data (she has a Psy.D. so is hardly a dummy). I suggested she get a Macbook when she needed a laptop, and I get far fewer calls for assistance on this than on the Linux box, and will probably replace the Linux system with an iMac when the Linux hardware goes south. Fun thread. I'm a software developer with decent Linux chops going back 15 years or so. After leaving Windows, I used Linux as my main workstation for a couple of years before switching to OSX. It is simply a no-brainer. Almost everything on OSX just works, all the time, and when it doesn't, it's pretty easy to fix. Contrast that to Linux where my complex X config (multiple graphics drivers and big monitors) broke every time I did a distro upgrade, plus all the other random hardware crap that halfway worked or never worked, even after spending hours on it. I have to hack on things all day for my job, I want my tools - i.e. my workstation and OS - to Just Work. I COULD fix most stuff, but why stick myself in the eye with a fork if I don't have to? OSX has all the power of *nix, and none of the hassles; and decades of UI experience and focus from Apple make for an extremely usable and stable GUI. Linux on servers is a no brainer, Linux on the desktop is only appropriate if you (or the geek who supports your desktop) loves to hack on Desktop Linux. I will admit things are getting better all the time, and some pre-built linux desktops and laptops are pretty sweet, but still not as slick (and stable over long-term upgrades) as OSX. Thanks, -- Chad ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%
On 10/9/10 2:41 PM, John Hinton wrote: Aside from this, Microsoft seems to love to make changes that break other vendor's software. I can't imagine the frustrations they must feel living in this world. WordPerfect, Adobe and just about everyone has had problems due to some 'upgrade' that broke something in their software. And how would you compare this to, say, the linux kernel regularly breaking every driver module that isn't distributed in source? All I can say is GO Google and Android! We might yet again have an alternative? But note that Android could have been java if google didn't want to impose their own controls. Once again it is arbitrary breakage just to prevent interoperability. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%
On 10/9/10 1:33 PM, Bill Campbell wrote: On Fri, Oct 08, 2010, Les Mikesell wrote: On 10/8/10 5:55 PM, Warren Young wrote: ... Y'all may recall a different example: Word Perfect was also once offered on Linux for about a year, then pulled. OpenOffice wasn't even around at the time, so you can't blame competition. Corel had a near open field to play in, and still couldn't make a buck. Did you ever try that product? Even free it wouldn't have been a win against Word on Windows - which was getting bundled on most new PCs at the time anyway. Au contraire, In September 1997 when we installed our first Linux system in a mission-critical position, it was in a law office as a file and print server for a bunch of Windows machines. The office manager was bitching mightily that their productivity dropped by about 50% when they were forced to use MS-Word instead of WordPerfect. These were very good legal secretaries who hated having to reach for a mouse to do anything, and loved the ``Reveal Codes'' ability in WordPerfect. I had to laugh one day when I got a phone call where the caller's first words were ``I want Reveal Codes''. I didn't mean wordperfect in general, I meant the Linux version which had to run under X, which at the time had fairly horrible hardware support, making it fairly likely that the CPU would do all the work of screen updates. Something that still hasn't changed all that much compared to OS's that embrace vendor-written drivers. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ldif invalid per syntax
Hey guys! Unfortunately I have a new wrinkle. While I certainly got to make my sudoers work through LDAP (thanks to those who helped) unfortunately PAM is unhappy at the moment. So, while sudo is working in ldap, for any of the services that need to authenticate through pam (i.e. ssh and su) it is still a no-go. I am getting pam authentication errors in my log files. But LDAP is certainly doing it's job! Using the account I have setup in LDAP as the pam user I can search my base DN: [bluethu...@bluethundr-desktop:~ ] $:ldapsearch -x -h ldap -D cn=pam_ldap,ou=Services,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com -w secret -b dc=summitnjhome,dc=com # extended LDIF # # LDAPv3 # base dc=summitnjhome,dc=com with scope subtree # filter: (objectclass=*) # requesting: ALL # # summitnjhome.com dn: dc=summitnjhome,dc=com dc: summitnjhome objectClass: dcObject objectClass: organization o: Summit NJ Home # staff, summitnjhome.com dn: ou=staff,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com ou: staff objectClass: organizationalUnit # summitnjops, staff, summitnjhome.com dn: ou=summitnjops,ou=staff,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com ou: summitnjops objectClass: organizationalUnit # people, summitnjhome.com dn: ou=people,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com objectClass: organizationalUnit ou: people # Services, summitnjhome.com dn: ou=Services,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com ou: services objectClass: organizationalUnit # pam_ldap, Services, summitnjhome.com dn: cn=pam_ldap,ou=Services,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com cn: pam_ldap objectClass: top objectClass: inetOrgPerson sn: PAM userPassword:: e1NTSEF9K2NsWktBUXVDWEhkbjVBcVRDbFVMb0ROZVcvelltelIg # sudoers, Services, summitnjhome.com dn: ou=sudoers,ou=Services,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com ou: sudoers objectClass: organizationalUnit # defaults, sudoers, Services, summitnjhome.com dn: cn=defaults,ou=sudoers,ou=Services,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com objectClass: top objectClass: sudoRole cn: defaults description: Default sudoOption's go here # root, sudoers, Services, summitnjhome.com dn: cn=root,ou=sudoers,ou=Services,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com objectClass: top objectClass: sudoRole cn: root sudoUser: root sudoHost: ALL sudoRunAsUser: ALL sudoCommand: ALL # %wheel, sudoers, Services, summitnjhome.com dn: cn=%wheel,ou=sudoers,ou=Services,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com objectClass: top objectClass: sudoRole cn: %wheel sudoUser: %wheel sudoHost: ALL sudoRunAsUser: ALL sudoCommand: ALL sudoOption: !authenticate # %summitnjops, sudoers, Services, summitnjhome.com dn: cn=%summitnjops,ou=sudoers,ou=Services,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com objectClass: top objectClass: sudoRole cn: %summitnjops sudoUser: %summitnjops sudoHost: ALL sudoRunAsUser: ALL sudoCommand: ALL sudoOption: !authenticate # search result search: 2 result: 0 Success # numResponses: 12 # numEntries: 11 And this is the entry I have in my LDAP database for the pam_ldap user: 5 cn=pam_ldap,ou=Services,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com cn: pam_ldap objectClass: top objectClass: inetOrgPerson sn: PAM userPassword: secret So far so good, everything works. However, this is how I have my ldap.conf file setup: host ldap.summitnjhome.com base dc=summitnjhome,dc=com binddn cn=pam_ldap,ou=Services,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com bindpw secret scope sub pam_password exop nss_base_passwd ou=staff,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com nss_base_shadow ou=staff,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com ( I have also tried setting the host to 127.0.0.1 as well, with no joy) And observe what happens if I try to su using pam/ldap Oct 9 20:25:11 LCENT01 su: pam_ldap: error trying to bind (Invalid credentials) Oct 9 20:25:11 LCENT01 su: pam_ldap: error trying to bind (Invalid credentials) Oct 9 20:25:11 LCENT01 su: in _openpam_check_error_code(): pam_sm_acct_mgmt(): unexpected return value 11 Oct 9 20:25:11 LCENT01 su: bluethundr to root on /dev/pts/0 ssh has roughly the same effect on the logs but in order for me to demonstrate that I would likely have to gain physical access to the box to fix it. So hopefully the above example will suffice. This is how my pam su file is configured: LCENT01# cat /etc/pam.d/su # # System-wide defaults # # auth authsufficient pam_opie.so no_warn no_fake_prompts authrequisite pam_opieaccess.so no_warn allow_local #auth sufficient pam_krb5.so no_warn try_first_pass #auth sufficient pam_ssh.so no_warn try_first_pass authsufficient pam_ldap.so authrequiredpam_unix.sono_warn try_first_pass nullok # account #accountrequiredpam_krb5.so account requiredpam_login_access.so account sufficient pam_ldap.so account requiredpam_unix.so # session #sessionoptionalpam_ssh.so session requiredpam_ldap.so session requiredpam_lastlog.so no_fail # password #password sufficient pam_krb5.so no_warn try_first_pass passwordrequiredpam_unix.so
[CentOS] Software bridge setup in RHEL 5/CentOS 5 questions, possible bug.
I have a question about software bridge setup (initscripts).
If one sets up a bridge network:
ifcfg-eth0:
DEVICE=eth0
ONBOOT=yes
BRIDGE=br0
HWADDR=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
ifcfg-eth1
DEVICE=eth1
ONBOOT=yes
BRIDGE=br0
HWADDR=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
ifcfg-br0
DEVICE=br0
TYPE=Bridge
BOOTPROTO=static
BROADCAST=nnn.nnn.nnn.255
IPADDR=nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NETWORK=nnn.nnn.nnn.0
ONBOOT=yes
Deep in the guts of /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-eth all of the
proper magic using brutil is done EXCEPT it does not put the NICs into
promisc mode. ALL of the documentation for setting up a software bridge
talks about setting the NICs into promisc mode.
My question: Which is wrong? The documentation for setting up a
software bridge? OR /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-eth?
*I* have patched /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-eth to include the
line:
/sbin/ip link set dev ${DEVICE} promisc on
just after the lines
/sbin/ip addr flush dev ${DEVICE} 2/dev/null
/sbin/ip link set dev ${DEVICE} up
Should I file a bug report? In the CentOS bugzilla or the RHEL bugzilla
(I am not a subscriber to Red Hat's support services)?
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Re: [CentOS] Software bridge setup in RHEL 5/CentOS 5 questions, possible bug.
My question: Which is wrong? The documentation for setting up a software bridge? OR /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-eth? I've a number of functioning software bridges, none of which are in promiscuous mode. Looking at /usr/share/doc/initscripts-8.45.30/sysconfig.txt, there used to be PROMISC=yes|no option but its now marked as No longer supported Perhaps newer bridge code no longer needs it and your documentation is now out of date? Kal ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
