Re: [CentOS-docs] Edit permission request + wiki tagging proposal

2011-04-10 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Am 09.04.11 21:53, schrieb Charles Polisher:
 Please make me a wiki editor. I want to create my personal home page. 

Is CharlesPolisher your wiki account?

 Assumptions:
 
 - Large amounts of existing wiki text will eventually migrate
   to website2.

Nope. Website2 will have much less content than the current webpage
has. http://wiki.centos.org/JimWoods has some starting points (also into
the mailing lists.

Which means that most of the rest of your mail is based on a wrong
assumption, sorry.

Regards,

Ralph
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Edit permission request + wiki tagging proposal

2011-04-10 Thread Charles Polisher
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 schrieb Charles Polisher:
  Please make me a wiki editor. I want to create my personal home page. 
 
 Is CharlesPolisher your wiki account?

Yes it is, sorry for the omission.

  Assumptions:
  
  - Large amounts of existing wiki text will eventually migrate
to website2.
 
 Nope. Website2 will have much less content than the current webpage
 has. http://wiki.centos.org/JimWoods has some starting points (also into
 the mailing lists.
 
 Which means that most of the rest of your mail is based on a wrong
 assumption, sorry.

Thanks for the gentle response. I think I get it now.
What I mistook for a wholesale remake of
http://wiki.centos.org/ 
is a redo of http://www.centos.org/ ?

Perhaps something in my idea could be salvaged in some future
effort to enhamce the wiki's content.
-- 
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[CentOS-virt] VMware Server 2 fails on 5.6

2011-04-10 Thread Benjamin Franz
So others can avoid the lesson I learned this morning, VMware Server 2 
stopped working after upgrading to 5.6 from a working 5.5 install (with 
the libc workaround for 5.4+ already in place).

Some Google-Fu indicates the problem is linked to more supporting 
libraries being changed (zlib, libxml2, possibly others) in addition to 
the existing libc issue. I get a segmentation fault trying to launch VM 
Server 2 and have been unsuccessful so far in getting my install to work 
again.

My own solution is I am rebuilding the physical hardware for KVM support 
and temporarily hosting the VMware VMs on a second machine I have still 
running 5.5 as I transition to KVM since it became apparent some time 
ago that VMware Server 2 is no longer a tenable platform.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.6

2011-04-10 Thread samuel machua
On Sat, 9 Apr 2011 13:40:41 -0400
fred smith fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us wrote:

 On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 03:01:34PM +0200, Luigi Rosa wrote:
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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  Just one thing: THANK YOU ALL!!!
  
 
 Seconded!
 
 My update was trouble-free. updated something in the neighborhood
 of 180 packages.

I would like to say thank you too, no hitch either with my upgrade.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.6

2011-04-10 Thread Gilbert Sebenste
On Sun, 10 Apr 2011, samuel machua wrote:

 On Sat, 9 Apr 2011 13:40:41 -0400
 fred smith fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us wrote:

 On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 03:01:34PM +0200, Luigi Rosa wrote:
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 Hash: SHA1

 Just one thing: THANK YOU ALL!!!


 Seconded!

 My update was trouble-free. updated something in the neighborhood
 of 180 packages.

 I would like to say thank you too, no hitch either with my upgrade.

Yep, Karanbir was right...I updated a bit too early. Once my local 
repo was synced, everything worked great. Thanks, dev team and everyone 
involved!

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[CentOS] how to install CentOS 5.6 i386 from livecd? Really dumb question I know :-)

2011-04-10 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
how to install CentOS 5.6 i386 from livecd? Really dumb question I know :-)

Hmm I know iI've done this in earlier releases on CentOS...

Please point me to the right place in the wiki or faq to shame me...

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] 5.6 - SRPM's

2011-04-10 Thread James Hogarth
On 9 April 2011 23:42, Tom Brown t...@ng23.net wrote:
 Hi

 Is there any ETA for the SRPM's from the base tree of 5.6? I need to
 get my hands on the src for the centos-release package as i have to
 rebuilt it to prevent the repo definitions from being included.

 I see the src's for the updates RPM's but not the base.

 many thanks

As part of my build process I disable repos like that (and others that
insert themselves in /etc/yum.repos.d) by echoing in during kickstart
the line reposdir=/etc/yum.repos.d/custom to yum.conf.

That way if I do have a need of a repo I can pop the file in there...
but meanwhile updates that pop a .repo file in /etc/yum.repos.d have
no effect on my systems.

Could similar work for you without having to rebuild centos-release ?

James
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.6 and KVM failure

2011-04-10 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/09/2011 12:04 PM, compdoc wrote:
 A similar incident was reported during the QA. Look at the .xml file.
 If it says type='raw', change it to type='qcow2' and restart libvirtd.
 Would that fix the problem ?

 Akemi
 
 Thank you. After reading your message, I googled the error and found a
 webpage that describes a slightly different procedure than yours, but which
 does the same thing:
 
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1638708
 
 Everything is working now.
 
 :)

I am going to add this to the Release Notes for 5.6 on the Wiki now.



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Re: [CentOS] CentOSPlus kernel (Was: Centos 6 Update?)

2011-04-10 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Steve Clark scl...@netwolves.com wrote:
 On 04/07/2011 05:14 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:

 Great. Please keep us posted. If the patches work as expected, they
 will be a worthy addition to the cplus kernel.

 I got a kernel built with the patches using the wiki and your notes in
 0004586 (thanks). I am pleased  to report
 that they appear to work as advertised. With:
 net.ipv6.conf.default.forwarding = 2
 net.ipv6.conf.all.accept_ra = 2

 Router solicitations were issued and router advertisements were accepted and
 I could still forward packets.

 I didn't make new patches, I simply did
 %define with_fuzzy_patches 1

I have built the latest version of cplus kernel with the patches
applied. The proposed process for patch addition did work well. It is
available as  'kernel-devel-2.6.32-71.24.1.el6.centos.ayplus.1'  from:

http://centos.toracat.org/kernel/centos6/centosplus-testing/

Steve, could you please test this kernel? Looks like this is going to
be the first patch set added to the C6plus kernel.

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Re: [CentOS] 5.6 - SRPM's

2011-04-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
I added exclude=*releases for every repo that uses them (base/os, 
updates, rpmforge, atrpms, elrepo, ) since I use my own local copy 
of those repos. Yum just skips them.

Tom Brown wrote:
 Hi
 
 Is there any ETA for the SRPM's from the base tree of 5.6? I need to
 get my hands on the src for the centos-release package as i have to
 rebuilt it to prevent the repo definitions from being included.
 
 I see the src's for the updates RPM's but not the base.
 
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Re: [CentOS] PCI-X/PCIe RAID controller.

2011-04-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Sunday, April 10, 2011 04:30 AM, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 04/09/11 8:11 AM, Christopher Chan wrote:
 On Saturday, April 09, 2011 10:47 PM, Drew wrote:
 The key is the backplane, not the drives. You should be able to get u320
 speeds if you have enough u160 drives.
 Does five drives count?
 I guess that depends on whether they can flood an u320 bus. If they are
 10k/15k rpm drives, I'd think so...


 U. say huh?  if any one device on a SCSI channel is U160, the whole
 channel has to run no faster than U160, thats all she wrote.   its a
 single bus not a 'star' like SAS or SATA.


OH, is that how those babies work? The backplane is not using a 
controller chip that mutiplexes the stuff? Oops, sorry.
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-10 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/08/2011 07:25 AM, Ian Murray wrote:
 
 

 As I seem to  have started this little subsection of the thread, please 
 let me give just  one small example to help clarify the situation as it 
 appears there is still  a lot of misunderstanding surrounding this issue.

 Let's look at kernel  modules, kmod packages. They are built against one 
 specific kernel and then  weak link against all other kernels that are 
 kABI compatible. For example,  in CentOS 5.6,
 kmod-gfs is built against the 5.6 base release  kernel:

 $ rpm -qlp  kmod-gfs-0.1.34-15.el5.centos.x86_64.rpm
 /lib/modules/2.6.18-238.el5
 /lib/modules/2.6.18-238.el5/extra
 /lib/modules/2.6.18-238.el5/extra/gfs
 /lib/modules/2.6.18-238.el5/extra/gfs/gfs.ko

 but  when we compare that to the upstream package:

 $ rpm -qlp  kmod-gfs-0.1.34-15.el5.x86_64.rpm
 /lib/modules/2.6.18-223.el5
 /lib/modules/2.6.18-223.el5/extra
 /lib/modules/2.6.18-223.el5/extra/gfs
 /lib/modules/2.6.18-223.el5/extra/gfs/gfs.ko

 we  see it's been built against a 2.6.18-223.el5 kernel. This was a beta 
 kernel  and was never officially released so CentOS has no way to rebuild 
 their  package against this kernel. Hence, not 100% binary compatible.

 There is  absolutely NO responsibility on Red Hat to release that kernel 
 that was part  of their build environment.

 The package builds fine for CentOS against  the release kernel. In all 
 likelihood it will function identically to the  upstream packages, but 
 there is always a possibility that some weird  corner-case bug will 
 affect one package that doesn't affect the  other.

 This situation with kmod packages is not at all uncommon as Red  Hat 
 invariably release kmods built against pre-release kernels and don't 
 rebuild them against the release kernel for GA. There are other examples 
 where packages might have been built against an unreleased version of 
 glibc or whatever but again these packages generally function fine, and 
 identically to upstream, but there is always a very small possibility 
 they might not function identically bug for bug. That's not to say the 
 RHEL package is any more right or wrong than the CentOS package, just 
 that they are different and hence by definition not 100% binary  compatible.

 I hope that helps clarify some of the confusion surrounding  this issue.

 
 According to wikipedia
 
 In computing, a computer that can run the same binary code intended to be 
 run 
 on another computer is said to be binary-compatible.
 
 By this definition a well written emulator and the emulated machine are 
 binary-compatible, yet the build environments and other under the hood 
 stuff 
 can and are wildly different. So different does not mean it is not binary 
 compatible.
 
 Is CentOS working to a different definition? e.g. byte for byte identical 
 (save 
 for trademarks). Maybe that is the only way to reduce the risk of 
 incompatibility, I don't know. 

The goal of the centos project is to produce an RPM that is exactly like
the upstream RPM in every way that is legally possible.

The checks we do look at libraries that binaries link to, size of the
packages and a list of the files the RPM installs.

We would like for all RPMS to be 100%, some (like the example above) are
not able to be linked against the same environment.

Upstream sometimes uses non released gcc's for compiling or they
sometimes build with non-released kernels or non released glibc's etc.
In those cases, we will do the best we can.

We do check these issues as part of the QA process and we do address
each one that we can.



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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-10 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/07/2011 03:46 PM, Ian Murray wrote:
 
 

 If you  do not like how your hairdresser does you hair you will go to 
 other one. If  you do not like the taste of bread you are buying, you 
 will go and by from  other bakery.
 
 
 I have never been insulted or belittled by my hairdresser as we discuss how 
 my 
 hair is best cut. My bakery has refused to sell me sliced bread because it 
 was 
 too hot to slice... however, they kindly explained when I should come back if 
 I 
 wished such that the bread would suitably be ready. No drama.

And in each of those circumstances, you are PAYING for a service, not
getting if for free.  You are also NOT making the hairdresser or the
baker tell you HOW they bake bread or cut hair.



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Re: [CentOS] PCI-X/PCIe RAID controller.

2011-04-10 Thread John R Pierce
On 04/10/11 3:09 AM, Christopher Chan wrote:
 OH, is that how those babies work? The backplane is not using a
 controller chip that mutiplexes the stuff? Oops, sorry.


The backplane typically has a SAF-TE 
(SCSI Accessed Fault-Tolerant Enclosure) chip which provides backplane 
management services, like notifying the raid controller or host software 
when devices are inserted or removed, as well as controlling device 
power, monitor enclosure environment, etc.In fact, SAF-TE itself is 
a SCSI device on the same backplane.


Now, SAS backplanes do have multiplexers.  One of the big functional[*] 
differences between SAS and SATA is that SATA only supports a simple 
expander where 1 SATA channel can be expanded to several devices, 
whereas a SAS multiplexor allows N SAS channels to talk to M devices.  N 
is often 4, and M is usually the size of the drive tray.  With the SATA 
version, if you had 4 SATA channels each exanded to 4 drives for 16 
drives total, drives 0-3 would always talk to SATA channel 0, drives 4-7 
to SATA 1, etc.   with SAS, any channel can talk to any device, so you 
are less likely to run into bottlenecks



[*] For the purpose of that description, I am ignoring the big 
implementation difference in that SAS uses SCSI commands to talk to 
drives, while SATA uses IDE/ATA derived commands.   Another significant 
functional difference, SAS drives are commonly dual ported, so they can 
be connected to redundant host bus adapters or raid controllers, so if a 
controller fails, all devices are still addressable. SAS controllers 
are designed so they can talk to SATA drives, but SATA controllers can't 
talk to SAS devices.


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Re: [CentOS] 5.6 - SRPM's

2011-04-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
 I added exclude=*releases for every repo that uses them (base/os, 
 updates, rpmforge, atrpms, elrepo, ) since I use my own local copy 
 of those repos. Yum just skips them.

Just to be sure there is no misunderstanding. I add that line in any 
*.repo file in /etc/yum.repos.d/ folder, as an option for every 
repository definition in those files where repository has releases rpms.

Ljubomir

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[CentOS] Webalizer and GeoIP?

2011-04-10 Thread Marko Vojinovic

I have a small problem with webalizer. I use it to analyze logs of a small web 
server hosting a single site, and the only thing I am interested in from 
webalizer is the piechart diagram it produces about the geographic 
distribution of people visiting the site.

However, the piechart it produces gives me a very crude information, with 50% 
or so of visitors belonging to unresolved, some to .net, some to .com and 
some country-specific. For an example, you can take a look at

  http://sith.ipb.ac.rs/webal/usage_201103.html#TOPCTRYS

I would like some more fine-grained diagram, at least in the unresolved part. 
Am I missing something, or is this really as good as it gets?

I have the GeoIP and GeoIP-data packages installed, but they don't seem to do 
anything. I looked up the /etc/webalizer.conf file, but there seems to be no 
relevant settings to tweak. I've even read the webalizer man page ;-) , but 
failed to find anything related. Using google produced (among other things) 
this how-to:

  http://www.lifelinux.com/how-to-install-webalizer-on-centos/

but that is for CentOS 5.4, it is written by an unknown source and suggests I 
should recompile webalizer and GeoIP from source, which is not the proper 
way to do it, I guess.

This is all on a freshly updated CentOS 5.6. :-) I'd appreciate any pointers.

TIA, :-)
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Re: [CentOS] how to install CentOS 5.6 i386 from livecd? Really dumb question I know :-)

2011-04-10 Thread Timothy Murphy
Kenneth Wolcott wrote:

 how to install CentOS 5.6 i386 from livecd? Really dumb question I know
 :-)
 
 Hmm I know iI've done this in earlier releases on CentOS...

I may be wrong, but I don't think there is a facility 
to install the LiveCD itself, as there is with Fedora, for example.

There used to be a facility (with CentOS-5.5 LiveCD)
to start a network installation,
by pressing SPACE while booting the LiveCD.

However, this has now been removed, apparently because
it might encourage people to install from remote sites,
which is said to be likely to fail.

In my experience it was safe and easy to install from the CentOS DVD ISO
on a local machine, with NFS.
So I for one consider the change to be a backward step.


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Re: [CentOS] (no subject)

2011-04-10 Thread Steven Vishoot
http://us-andeville.fr/cool01.11.php?ID=006
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Re: [CentOS] (no subject)

2011-04-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Steven Vishoot wrote:
 http://us-andeville.fr/cool01.11.php?ID=006

This is SPAM

Ljubomir
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-10 Thread Timothy Murphy
Johnny Hughes wrote:

 I have never been insulted or belittled by my hairdresser as we discuss
 how my hair is best cut. My bakery has refused to sell me sliced bread
 because it was too hot to slice... however, they kindly explained when I
 should come back if I wished such that the bread would suitably be ready.
 No drama.
 
 And in each of those circumstances, you are PAYING for a service, not
 getting if for free.  You are also NOT making the hairdresser or the
 baker tell you HOW they bake bread or cut hair.

I've never seen any posting from Johnny Hughes or Karanbir
that I thought insulting or belittling,
and I am very grateful to them for the work they have done,
since CentOS-5.6 is working faultlessly for me, as previous versions did.

However, I do think it is a political or PR mistake
to offer this It's free, so take it or leave it line.
It's only a short step from that to
It's free, so don't expect it to work very well.

In my experience, much of the best software is free,
and there is no need at all to make excuses for it.
I ran a Windows Server OS, admittedly for a very short time,
and found it far less reliable than CentOS.

I think Karanbir made a small PR error
in naming or implying dates for CentOS-5.6 and CentOS-6.
To my mind, it would have been much better just to say
something like, We're working hard on CentOS-6,
and will get it out as soon as possible,
given that this is a part-time activity for us.



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Re: [CentOS] 5.6 - SRPM's

2011-04-10 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote on Sun, 10 Apr 2011 12:53:54 +0200:

 Just to be sure there is no misunderstanding. I add that line in any 
 *.repo file in /etc/yum.repos.d/ folder, as an option for every 
 repository definition in those files where repository has releases rpms.

I don't understand the problem. If you edit a .repo file it is usually not 
overwritten, the new repo file is saved as .rpmnew. So, I think this creates 
only a problem in the case that you completely remove a .repo file.
What am I misunderstanding? (Sorry for the pun, I think I'm mostly talking 
to Tom ;-)

Kai


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Re: [CentOS] Webalizer and GeoIP?

2011-04-10 Thread Kai Schaetzl
From webalizer.conf.sample

# The GeoIP option enables or disables the use of geolocation
# services provided by the GeoIP library (http://www.maxmind.com),
#GeoIP  no
# GeoIPDatabase specifies an alternate database filename to use by the
# GeoIP library.  If an absolute path is not given as part of the name
#GeoIPDatabase  /usr/share/GeoIP/GeoIP.dat

It works only, if it is compiled in, of course. I don't know if that is 
the case with the webalizer coming with CentOS. If the conf doesn't 
contain these comments it is probably not compiled in.


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[CentOS] ext4 support in anaconda?

2011-04-10 Thread Rainer Traut
Hi,

it looks like, I cannot format a partition as ext4 while install.
I thought upstream has ext4 fully supported in 5.6?
I looked in release notes but only found reference to ext4 in RHEL5.6

My install is netinstall.iso 64bit release 5.6 as Virtualbox VM.

Thx
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-10 Thread Ian Murray


 
 The  goal of the centos project is to produce an RPM that is exactly like
 the  upstream RPM in every way that is legally possible.
 
 The checks we do look  at libraries that binaries link to, size of the
 packages and a list of the  files the RPM installs.
 
 We would like for all RPMS to be 100%, some (like  the example above) are
 not able to be linked against the same  environment.
 
 Upstream sometimes uses non released gcc's for compiling or  they
 sometimes build with non-released kernels or non released glibc's  etc.
 In those cases, we will do the best we can.
 
 We do check these  issues as part of the QA process and we do address
 each one that we  can.

Thanks for the response. Sounds like you go to significant lengths. 

Imagine if you were to take any GPL source code for which you don't own 
copyright and modify it such that that it would only be compile-able using your 
highly modified secret compiler. If you then distributed the executable and the 
useless source without the secret compiler, are we suggesting that is allowable 
under the GPL? A bit of googling suggests it is. :(

While this is an extreme example, it kinda sounds like what you suggest RH do.

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-10 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/10/2011 07:36 AM, Ian Murray wrote:
 
 

 The  goal of the centos project is to produce an RPM that is exactly like
 the  upstream RPM in every way that is legally possible.

 The checks we do look  at libraries that binaries link to, size of the
 packages and a list of the  files the RPM installs.

 We would like for all RPMS to be 100%, some (like  the example above) are
 not able to be linked against the same  environment.

 Upstream sometimes uses non released gcc's for compiling or  they
 sometimes build with non-released kernels or non released glibc's  etc.
 In those cases, we will do the best we can.

 We do check these  issues as part of the QA process and we do address
 each one that we  can.
 
 Thanks for the response. Sounds like you go to significant lengths. 
 
 Imagine if you were to take any GPL source code for which you don't own 
 copyright and modify it such that that it would only be compile-able using 
 your 
 highly modified secret compiler. If you then distributed the executable and 
 the 
 useless source without the secret compiler, are we suggesting that is 
 allowable 
 under the GPL? A bit of googling suggests it is. :(
 
 While this is an extreme example, it kinda sounds like what you suggest RH do.
 

Well, I do not think they do it on purpose.

They have a repository that they point at to build packages.  It
contains all the latest released packages.

This build system will likely also have a Staged feature, so that as
they build packages, new packages will use the previously compiled (and
yet unreleased) packages to build on.

If they are building updates and they, for example, build 2 versions of
GCC in this process.  Then maybe they only release to the public the 2nd
version of GCC which they built.  So, some of their packages (the ones
between the time the first gcc was compiled and the 2nd gcc was
compiled) would be build using a non released gcc.  The real world
impact of this is probably zero ... except that things that this (in
/var/log/messages) will be different:

Linux version 2.6.18-238.1.1.el5 (gcc version 4.1.2 20080704 (Red Hat
4.1.2-48)) #1 SMP Wed Jan 26 08:03:38 PST 2011

(If that version of GCC was the first one compiled in my example above,
CentOS will not have it, but it is used to compile an upstream kernel
... note, this example is not a real case issue, just hypothetical to
show how it happens)

It could introduce some incompatibility (they changed the package for
some reason) ... which is why we try to minimize it, but generally the
difference is only cosmetic.



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Re: [CentOS] ext4 support in anaconda?

2011-04-10 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Rainer Traut tr...@gmx.de wrote:

 it looks like, I cannot format a partition as ext4 while install.
 I thought upstream has ext4 fully supported in 5.6?
 I looked in release notes but only found reference to ext4 in RHEL5.6

From
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5/html-single/5.6_Technical_Notes/index.html

As of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.6 the ext4 file system is fully
supported. However, provisioning ext4 file systems with the anaconda
installer is not supported, and ext4 file systems need to be
provisioned manually after the installation.
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[CentOS] iscsi-initiator-utils required in 5.6, loads uneeded modules

2011-04-10 Thread Stephen Harris
I just updated one of my virtual hosts to 5.6 and on rebooted I spotted
an error about iscsi.

Which surprised me, since I don't use iscsi.

Yet there it is...
  % rpm -qf /etc/init.d/iscsi
  iscsi-initiator-utils-6.2.0.872-6.el5

And they're configured to start
  iscsi   0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on4:on5:on6:off
  iscsid  0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on4:on5:on6:off

And I can't remove it
  % rpm -e iscsi-initiator-utils
  error: Failed dependencies:
  iscsi-initiator-utils is needed by (installed) 
mkinitrd-5.1.19.6-68.el5.i386

A physical machine still on 5.5 doesn't have iscsi
  % rpm -qa '*iscsi*'
  % ls /etc/init.d/*iscsi*
  /bin/ls: /etc/init.d/*iscsi*: No such file or directory

It appears that yum did, indeed, install this:
  % grep iscsi /var/log/yum.log
  Apr 10 09:24:30 Installed: iscsi-initiator-utils-6.2.0.872-6.el5.i386

The fix is to chkconfig off the iscsi and iscsid rc scripts.  This is
a good idea, 'cos these scripts modprobe unnecessary modules.

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[CentOS] Usb surf stick for internet

2011-04-10 Thread Olaf Mueller
Hello,

I am searching for an internet usb surf-stick (umts) that works under
CentOS. Is anyone using such a stick and if so, which chip has this
usb-stick?

Would a Huawei E160E chip work under CentOS? Or maybe under CentOS with
the 2.6.35 kernel from elrepo?
Thank you very much!


regards
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Re: [CentOS] iscsi-initiator-utils required in 5.6, loads uneeded modules

2011-04-10 Thread Luigi Rosa
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Stephen Harris said the following on 10/04/11 15:48:

 And I can't remove it
   % rpm -e iscsi-initiator-utils
   error: Failed dependencies:
   iscsi-initiator-utils is needed by (installed) 
 mkinitrd-5.1.19.6-68.el5.i386

I saw that during the upgrade.

My guess is that probably the new mkinitrd supports boot from iscsi target.

But I don't know why iscsi and iscsid are enabled by default. Is it safe to turn
them off if I don't have iSCSI?


Ciao,
luigi

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Re: [CentOS] Webalizer and GeoIP?

2011-04-10 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 10 April 2011 12:49:40 Kai Schaetzl wrote:
 From webalizer.conf.sample
 
 # The GeoIP option enables or disables the use of geolocation
 # services provided by the GeoIP library (http://www.maxmind.com),
 #GeoIP  no
 # GeoIPDatabase specifies an alternate database filename to use by the
 # GeoIP library.  If an absolute path is not given as part of the name
 #GeoIPDatabase  /usr/share/GeoIP/GeoIP.dat
 
 It works only, if it is compiled in, of course. I don't know if that is
 the case with the webalizer coming with CentOS. If the conf doesn't
 contain these comments it is probably not compiled in.

Ok, what would be the proper way to verify the compile-time options for the 
package?

And if it is not compiled with GeoIP support, can anyone explain why?

Thanks! :-)
Marko

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[CentOS] new kernel = no working sound

2011-04-10 Thread Iulian L Dragomir
After updating my laptop ( compaq 6820s) to Centos 5.6 the sound is gone.

The sound card is still detected but there is no sound from speaker

Vendor: Intel Corporation
Model: 82810H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
Module: snd-hda-intel

On the same updated laptop the sound is working fine with an older
kernel ( 2.6.18-194.32.1.el5.centos.plus )

I tried with no success ( sound related ) booting all of the following:

kernel#2.6.18-238.el5
kernel#2.6.18-238.el5.centos.plus
kernel#2.6.18-238.1.1.el5
kernel#2.6.18-238.1.1.el5.centos.plus
kernel#2.6.18-238.5.1.el5
kernel#2.6.18-238.5.1.el5.centos.plus

This is a nonworking scsconfig.log: http://pastebin.com/XW9e72Jj

The sound is working fine with the following kernels:
kernel#2.6.18-194.26.1.el5.centos.plus
kernel#2.6.18-194.32.1.el5.centos.plus
and all the older

This is a working scsconfig.log: http://pastebin.com/xqdMra5q

Centos was installed on this laptop in 2007 and everything worked ok till now.

Googling around produced some results but none of them have a working solution

This email is my second email to the list on the same subject. The
first email is probably stuck in lalaland due to my poor judgment and
due to the logs attached. Please excuse me if both of them reach you.

Can anyone suggest a solution or a path to follow ?

Thanks in advance,
Iulian L. Dragomir
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Re: [CentOS] iscsi-initiator-utils required in 5.6, loads uneeded modules

2011-04-10 Thread Stephen Harris
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 04:18:08PM +0200, Luigi Rosa wrote:

 But I don't know why iscsi and iscsid are enabled by default. Is it safe to 
 turn
 them off if I don't have iSCSI?

That's what I did (with chkconfig).


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Re: [CentOS] ext4 support in anaconda?

2011-04-10 Thread Rainer Traut
Am 10.04.2011 15:30, schrieb Tom H:
 On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Rainer Trauttr...@gmx.de  wrote:

 it looks like, I cannot format a partition as ext4 while install.
 I thought upstream has ext4 fully supported in 5.6?
 I looked in release notes but only found reference to ext4 in RHEL5.6

 From
 http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5/html-single/5.6_Technical_Notes/index.html

 As of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.6 the ext4 file system is fully
 supported. However, provisioning ext4 file systems with the anaconda
 installer is not supported, and ext4 file systems need to be
 provisioned manually after the installation.

Thx Tom for making this clear.

Rainer
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Re: [CentOS] Webalizer and GeoIP?

2011-04-10 Thread Eero Volotinen
2011/4/10 Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com:
 On Sunday 10 April 2011 12:49:40 Kai Schaetzl wrote:
 From webalizer.conf.sample

 # The GeoIP option enables or disables the use of geolocation
 # services provided by the GeoIP library (http://www.maxmind.com),
 #GeoIP          no
 # GeoIPDatabase specifies an alternate database filename to use by the
 # GeoIP library.  If an absolute path is not given as part of the name
 #GeoIPDatabase  /usr/share/GeoIP/GeoIP.dat

 It works only, if it is compiled in, of course. I don't know if that is
 the case with the webalizer coming with CentOS. If the conf doesn't
 contain these comments it is probably not compiled in.

 Ok, what would be the proper way to verify the compile-time options for the
 package?

rpm -q --queryformat=%{NAME}: %{OPTFLAGS}\n webalizer might work


 And if it is not compiled with GeoIP support, can anyone explain why?

well, I think geoip library it not supported in rhel and this requires
geoip library..

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Re: [CentOS] new kernel = no working sound

2011-04-10 Thread Iulian L Dragomir
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Iulian L Dragomir iulia...@gmail.com wrote:
 After updating my laptop ( compaq 6820s) to Centos 5.6 the sound is gone.

 The sound card is still detected but there is no sound from speaker

 Vendor: Intel Corporation
 Model: 82810H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
 Module: snd-hda-intel


Correction .. the card is detected as :

Vendor: Intel Corporation
Model: 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
Module: snd-hda-intel

Sorry for the confusion.
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[CentOS] Kerberos/LDAP authentication no more working in 5.6 ?

2011-04-10 Thread Alain Péan
Hi all,

I just upgraded more servers, and doing some tests I found that my setup 
for kerberos/ldap authentication against Active Directory is no more 
working. I don't know why...
I followed some times ago scott Lowe blog for this setup :
http://blog.scottlowe.org/2007/01/15/linux-ad-integration-version-4/

And it was working correctly until the upgrade. What is curious is that 
id command and getent passwd works correctly :
# id pean
uid=9808(pean) gid=5027(ida) 
groupes=5027(ida),10(wheel),100(users),5024(info)

# getent passwd |grep pean
pean:*:9808:5027:pean:/home/pean:/bin/bash

'pean' es an AD account. But when I try to autenticate, even locally :

So LDAP is correctly found. It is the password that seems problematic...

]$ su - pean
Mot de passe :
Mot de passe :
su: incorrect password

Here is the content of my system-auth-ac pam module :
]$ cat /etc/pam.d/system-auth
#%PAM-1.0
# This file is auto-generated.
# User changes will be destroyed the next time authconfig is run.
auth required   pam_env.so
auth sufficient pam_unix.so likeauth nullok
auth sufficient pam_krb5.so
auth required   pam_deny.so

account  sufficient pam_unix.so
account  sufficient pam_krb5.so
account  sufficient pam_succeed_if.so uid  100 quiet
account  required   pam_deny.so

password requisite  pam_cracklib.so retry=3
password sufficient pam_unix.so nullok use_authtok md5 shadow
password  required  pam_deny.so

session  required   pam_mkhomedir.so skel=/etc/skel/ umask=0022
session  required   pam_limits.so
session  required   pam_unix.so

Has anyone an idea where to look ? I noticed that 5.6 introduced sssd, 
and I know that in RHEL 6.0 TLS/SSL authentication is mandatory for LDAP 
authentication...

Thans for the help.

Alain

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Re: [CentOS] ext4 support in anaconda?

2011-04-10 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Rainer Traut tr...@gmx.de wrote:
 Am 10.04.2011 15:30, schrieb Tom H:
 On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Rainer Trauttr...@gmx.de  wrote:

 it looks like, I cannot format a partition as ext4 while install.
 I thought upstream has ext4 fully supported in 5.6?
 I looked in release notes but only found reference to ext4 in RHEL5.6

 From
 http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5/html-single/5.6_Technical_Notes/index.html

 As of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.6 the ext4 file system is fully
 supported. However, provisioning ext4 file systems with the anaconda
 installer is not supported, and ext4 file systems need to be
 provisioned manually after the installation.

 Thx Tom for making this clear.

You're welcome.

At the risk of spreading FUD, I'd use mfs.ext4 rather than mke4fs:
http://www.redhat.com/archives/rhelv5-list/2011-February/msg00032.html

Soon enough (and I'm *NOT* complaining about the pace of development)
you'll be able to select ext4 in anaconda in CentOS 6. It may even be
the default although I could be confusing Fedora with RHEL 6...
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Re: [CentOS] 5.6 - SRPM's

2011-04-10 Thread Tom Diehl
Hi,

On Sun, 10 Apr 2011, Kai Schaetzl wrote:

 Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote on Sun, 10 Apr 2011 12:53:54 +0200:
 
 Just to be sure there is no misunderstanding. I add that line in any
 *.repo file in /etc/yum.repos.d/ folder, as an option for every
 repository definition in those files where repository has releases rpms.
 
 I don't understand the problem. If you edit a .repo file it is usually not
 overwritten, the new repo file is saved as .rpmnew. So, I think this creates
 only a problem in the case that you completely remove a .repo file.
 What am I misunderstanding? (Sorry for the pun, I think I'm mostly talking
 to Tom ;-)

I cannot speak for the other Tom but in my case I rebuild the centos-release
rpm and add my own repo files so that all of my machines pull from my local
repos. Yes, I know that the modified repo files do not get overwritten but
that does not help for new machines nor does it help when I change my local
configuration. When I rebuild the centos-release rpm I actually modify it so
that a new version  of the rpm overwrites any existing .repo files. That
way I know all of the machines under my control are only pulling updates I have
approved and placed into my local repos.

It would be nice if this srpm was released with the main distro. Rebuilding
other packages can come later when all of the srpms are available but this
particular package is important for me being able to update the machines. In
fact I usually end up hacking up the first cut of the centos-release rpm for a
new release based on the previous version (in this case 5.5) so that I can do
my upgrades. It is not all that hard to do but it would be easier if I had
the official srpm.

Regards,

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Re: [CentOS] Kerberos/LDAP authentication no more working in 5.6 ?

2011-04-10 Thread Alain Péan
Le 10/04/2011 17:31, Alain Péan a écrit :
 Hi all,

 I just upgraded more servers, and doing some tests I found that my setup
 for kerberos/ldap authentication against Active Directory is no more
 working. I don't know why...
 I followed some times ago scott Lowe blog for this setup :
 http://blog.scottlowe.org/2007/01/15/linux-ad-integration-version-4/

 And it was working correctly until the upgrade. What is curious is that
 id command and getent passwd works correctly :
 # id pean
 uid=9808(pean) gid=5027(ida)
 groupes=5027(ida),10(wheel),100(users),5024(info)

 # getent passwd |grep pean
 pean:*:9808:5027:pean:/home/pean:/bin/bash

 'pean' es an AD account. But when I try to autenticate, even locally :

 So LDAP is correctly found. It is the password that seems problematic...

 ]$ su - pean
 Mot de passe :
 Mot de passe :
 su: incorrect password

 Here is the content of my system-auth-ac pam module :
 ]$ cat /etc/pam.d/system-auth
 #%PAM-1.0
 # This file is auto-generated.
 # User changes will be destroyed the next time authconfig is run.
 auth required   pam_env.so
 auth sufficient pam_unix.so likeauth nullok
 auth sufficient pam_krb5.so
 auth required   pam_deny.so

 account  sufficient pam_unix.so
 account  sufficient pam_krb5.so
 account  sufficient pam_succeed_if.so uid  100 quiet
 account  required   pam_deny.so

 password requisite  pam_cracklib.so retry=3
 password sufficient pam_unix.so nullok use_authtok md5 shadow
 password  required  pam_deny.so

 session  required   pam_mkhomedir.so skel=/etc/skel/ umask=0022
 session  required   pam_limits.so
 session  required   pam_unix.so

 Has anyone an idea where to look ? I noticed that 5.6 introduced sssd,
 and I know that in RHEL 6.0 TLS/SSL authentication is mandatory for LDAP
 authentication...

 Thans for the help.

 Alain

After further verification, it seems to be related to ticket granting. 
Here is what I have in /var/log/messages :
su: pam_krb5[7200]: TGT failed verification using keytab and key for 
'host/bardeen.lab-lpp.local@LAB-LPP.LOCAL': Cannot find ticket for 
requested realm

Alain

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Re: [CentOS] Webalizer and GeoIP?

2011-04-10 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Eero Volotinen wrote on Sun, 10 Apr 2011 17:41:20 +0300:

 well, I think geoip library it not supported in rhel and this requires
 geoip library..

yeah, geoip is an rpmforge package.
Marko, you can easily compile it yourself, it's a set of only two 
binaries. No big deal deploying it non-rpm. And while you are at that and 
deducing from your name that you may want localized support: have a look 
at that as well if you compile. Webalizer supports only one language per 
binary, you have to compile it in.

Kai


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[CentOS] A round of applause!

2011-04-10 Thread Chuck Munro
Hello All,

Just a short note to add my vote for a HUGE round of applause to the 
CentOS team for their untiring efforts in getting releases out the door. 
  I've just upgraded several servers to 5.6 and it all just works.

None of the team's work is easy to accomplish, especially when 
less-than-useful complaints keep popping up from thoughtless users who 
don't appreciate the effort, and who waste the team's time trying to 
respond.  RedHat's move to defend their support business against the 
freeloading distro vendors (we all know who those sharks are!) wasn't 
aimed at CentOS, but it has significantly increased the workload the 
team faces.

Let's be patient and let them get the job done.

Kudos to the CentOS team!

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Re: [CentOS] A round of applause!

2011-04-10 Thread aly . khimji
Yes, well put, I second that!

Thanks to all dev's. As I said earlier on the release date, all your efforts 
are greatly appreciated

Aly

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Subject: [CentOS] A round of applause!
Sent: Apr 10, 2011 12:39 PM

Hello All,

Just a short note to add my vote for a HUGE round of applause to the 
CentOS team for their untiring efforts in getting releases out the door. 
  I've just upgraded several servers to 5.6 and it all just works.

None of the team's work is easy to accomplish, especially when 
less-than-useful complaints keep popping up from thoughtless users who 
don't appreciate the effort, and who waste the team's time trying to 
respond.  RedHat's move to defend their support business against the 
freeloading distro vendors (we all know who those sharks are!) wasn't 
aimed at CentOS, but it has significantly increased the workload the 
team faces.

Let's be patient and let them get the job done.

Kudos to the CentOS team!

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Re: [CentOS] Usb surf stick for internet

2011-04-10 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/10/2011 08:52 AM, Olaf Mueller wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I am searching for an internet usb surf-stick (umts) that works under
 CentOS. Is anyone using such a stick and if so, which chip has this
 usb-stick?
 
 Would a Huawei E160E chip work under CentOS? Or maybe under CentOS with
 the 2.6.35 kernel from elrepo?
 Thank you very much!
 
 
 regards
 Olaf

The best I can tell, a device that is compatable with usb_modeswitch
would be necessary:

http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/

It looks like arrfab might know how to do this:

http://ccforums.clearfoundation.com/showflat.php?Cat=0Number=122025Main=122002




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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.6

2011-04-10 Thread samuel machua
On Sat, 9 Apr 2011 17:22:16 +0200
Mathieu Baudier mbaud...@argeo.org wrote:

  Just one thing: THANK YOU ALL!!!
 
 Thanks a lot!
 (especially for focusing on 5.6 before 6.0)
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Re: [CentOS] new kernel = no working sound

2011-04-10 Thread Rob Kampen


On Apr 10, 2011, at 10:35 AM, Iulian L Dragomir iulia...@gmail.com wrote:

 After updating my laptop ( compaq 6820s) to Centos 5.6 the sound is gone.
 
 The sound card is still detected but there is no sound from speaker
 
 Vendor: Intel Corporation
 Model: 82810H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
 Module: snd-hda-intel
 
 On the same updated laptop the sound is working fine with an older
 kernel ( 2.6.18-194.32.1.el5.centos.plus )
 
 I tried with no success ( sound related ) booting all of the following:
 
 kernel#2.6.18-238.el5
 kernel#2.6.18-238.el5.centos.plus
 kernel#2.6.18-238.1.1.el5
 kernel#2.6.18-238.1.1.el5.centos.plus
 kernel#2.6.18-238.5.1.el5
 kernel#2.6.18-238.5.1.el5.centos.plus
 
 This is a nonworking scsconfig.log: http://pastebin.com/XW9e72Jj
 
 The sound is working fine with the following kernels:
 kernel#2.6.18-194.26.1.el5.centos.plus
 kernel#2.6.18-194.32.1.el5.centos.plus
 and all the older
 
 This is a working scsconfig.log: http://pastebin.com/xqdMra5q
 
 Centos was installed on this laptop in 2007 and everything worked ok till now.
 
 Googling around produced some results but none of them have a working solution
 
 This email is my second email to the list on the same subject. The
 first email is probably stuck in lalaland due to my poor judgment and
 due to the logs attached. Please excuse me if both of them reach you.
 
 Can anyone suggest a solution or a path to follow ?
Check the order of driver loading. This affected me a few kernels ago. Found 
that one needs to force the order of driver loading in modprobe.conf HTH
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Iulian L. Dragomir
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Re: [CentOS] ext4 support in anaconda?

2011-04-10 Thread S.Tindall
On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 16:40 +0200, Rainer Traut wrote:
 Am 10.04.2011 15:30, schrieb Tom H:
  On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Rainer Trauttr...@gmx.de  wrote:
 
  it looks like, I cannot format a partition as ext4 while install.
  I thought upstream has ext4 fully supported in 5.6?
  I looked in release notes but only found reference to ext4 in RHEL5.6
 
  From
  http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5/html-single/5.6_Technical_Notes/index.html
 
  As of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.6 the ext4 file system is fully
  supported. However, provisioning ext4 file systems with the anaconda
  installer is not supported, and ext4 file systems need to be
  provisioned manually after the installation.
 
 Thx Tom for making this clear.
 
 Rainer

Just boot the installer with the ext4 option and anaconda will be able
to format ext4, or at least that works in 5.5.

http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/InstallOnExt4



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Re: [CentOS] new kernel = no working sound

2011-04-10 Thread Iulian L Dragomir
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Rob Kampen rkam...@kampensonline.com wrote:
 Check the order of driver loading. This affected me a few kernels ago. Found 
 that one needs to force the order of driver loading in modprobe.conf HTH

The modprobe.conf is looking like this:


alias eth0 e1000e
alias scsi_hostadapter ata_piix
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
options snd-card-0 index=0
options snd-hda-intel index=0
remove snd-hda-intel { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 /dev/null 21 || :
; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-hda-intel
alias wlan0 iwl3945

===

The same configuration is used for both old (functional) and new
(nonfunctional) kernels

What are your suggestions regarding the order of drivers loading ?
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[CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-10 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Em 06-04-2011 10:33, Karanbir Singh escreveu:
 On 04/06/2011 07:54 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
 How can a company dedicate a few man-hours per week to help CentOS?
 I mean this in a more official way, rather than just a person dropping
 by at the -devel list.

 Thats a very good question, and something more people should be asking
 : here is a terse reply : adopt a part of the distro, contribute tests
 and take ownership of driving support for those components forward ( so,
 wiki content, support in irc channels and support for users on those
 components in the mailing lists ). Start with a package or two, then
 move that forward. Start with whats already in the distro.

Didn't you read the part where I said...

«I mean this in a more official way, rather than just a person dropping
by at the -devel list.»

?

You just gave me examples of more person Foo dropping by Bar... I'm 
not sure how that can shorten the gap between upstream and CentOS 
releases. It seems more in the way of giving user support.

The main support *I* need is timely updates and releases.

It's obvious there is a man-power issue. It is obvious to me you're in 
denial :)

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Timothy Murphy wrote:
 I think Karanbir made a small PR error
 in naming or implying dates for CentOS-5.6 and CentOS-6.
 To my mind, it would have been much better just to say
 something like, We're working hard on CentOS-6,
 and will get it out as soon as possible,
 given that this is a part-time activity for us.
 
But all devs DO SAY that, at least initially. That is THE release date.

But they are also helpful so they do give (g)estimates when they EXPECT 
to finish, when asked politely, so we know what is *minimum* time it 
will take. When I go to some repairman, and he hesitates to give me time 
estimate, I ask him to sayuntil when he *surely* will not be finished, 
so I do not pester him every day, and so I can think of repaired item as 
unavailable until then.

If you read some of complaints, you will see some people quote and are 
offended and complain about it will be ready when it is ready attitude 
of devs.

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Re: [CentOS] A round of applause!

2011-04-10 Thread Keith Keller
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 09:39:48AM -0700, Chuck Munro wrote:
 
 
 None of the team's work is easy to accomplish, especially when 
 less-than-useful complaints keep popping up from thoughtless users who 
 don't appreciate the effort, and who waste the team's time trying to 
 respond.

kooky conspiracy theory
Perhaps it's a subtle plot to persuade the complainers to switch to a
different distro.
/kooky conspiracy theory

--keith ;-)


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Re: [CentOS] Usb surf stick for internet

2011-04-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Olaf Mueller wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I am searching for an internet usb surf-stick (umts) that works under
 CentOS. Is anyone using such a stick and if so, which chip has this
 usb-stick?
 
 Would a Huawei E160E chip work under CentOS? Or maybe under CentOS with
 the 2.6.35 kernel from elrepo?
 Thank you very much!
 
 
E220 and E1550 work with small modifications.

I used 55-e1550.rules with (cant remember where to put it):
SUBSYSTEM==usb, ATTRS{idProduct}==1446, ATTRS{idVendor}==12d1, \
   RUN+=/usr/bin/usb_modeswitch -c /etc/usb_modeswitch.conf


Visit this page:
http://pyhumod.ooz.ie/

and you will have all of your questions answered.

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-10 Thread Christopher J. Buckley
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 19:19, Ljubomir Ljubojevic off...@plnet.rs wrote:
 If you read some of complaints, you will see some people quote and are
 offended and complain about it will be ready when it is ready attitude
 of devs.

I think it's fair to suggest that those people should be going to Red
Hat and purchasing RHEL then.

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-10 Thread rainer
 On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 19:19, Ljubomir Ljubojevic off...@plnet.rs
 wrote:
 If you read some of complaints, you will see some people quote and are
 offended and complain about it will be ready when it is ready attitude
 of devs.

 I think it's fair to suggest that those people should be going to Red
 Hat and purchasing RHEL then.

Not that this has not been suggested before, but:
that doesn't have a fixed released-date, either.
There's a series of betas and then, at some point, a new release comes out.
(AFAIK).
;-)
I think these people should change to OpenBSD. Usually, there's a release
on May 1st and November 1st.
Isn't that what everybody wants?

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-10 Thread Christopher J. Buckley
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 19:56,  rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 19:19, Ljubomir Ljubojevic off...@plnet.rs
 wrote:
 If you read some of complaints, you will see some people quote and are
 offended and complain about it will be ready when it is ready attitude
 of devs.

 I think it's fair to suggest that those people should be going to Red
 Hat and purchasing RHEL then.

 Not that this has not been suggested before, but:
 that doesn't have a fixed released-date, either.

It does - to an extent. Red Hat has a policy of releasing a major
release every 18-24 months (I know RHEL-6 has slipped outside of this
window), and customers will be have communication from their account
team as to expected release dates (not specific of course, but to the
quarter) which simply does not exist with CentOS, and nor should there
be pressure on the developers of CentOS to answer these questions imo.

Great release with 5.6 btw!

Cheers,
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Re: [CentOS] new kernel = no working sound

2011-04-10 Thread Rob Kampen

Iulian L Dragomir wrote:

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Rob Kampen rkam...@kampensonline.com wrote:
  

Check the order of driver loading. This affected me a few kernels ago. Found 
that one needs to force the order of driver loading in modprobe.conf HTH



The modprobe.conf is looking like this:


alias eth0 e1000e
alias scsi_hostadapter ata_piix
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
options snd-card-0 index=0
options snd-hda-intel index=0
remove snd-hda-intel { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 /dev/null 21 || :
; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-hda-intel
alias wlan0 iwl3945

===

The same configuration is used for both old (functional) and new
(nonfunctional) kernels

What are your suggestions regarding the order of drivers loading ?
  

I found that there was another module loading before the snd-hda-intel
thus I added index=0 to the one I needed and index=1 to the other module 
that seemed to get in the way.
the clue was looking under SystemAdministrationSound Card Detection 
and seeing the  Audio configuration dialog  Settings tab - it showed my 
desired sound card as number 1 rather than 0 with another item as number 
0 (one I did not even know was on the computer).
Took me a recompiled kernel and hours of wasted time. Old kernels all 
worked fine - thus I thought it was a kernel patch problem - removed all 
the related patches and still no joy.
I do not know what they are doing to the kernel but over time the 
loading of modules, order of disk detection etc is becoming much more of 
an issue.

HTH YMMV

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Re: [CentOS] 5.6 - SRPM's

2011-04-10 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Tom Diehl wrote on Sun, 10 Apr 2011 11:47:04 -0400 (EDT):

 I cannot speak for the other Tom but in my case I rebuild the centos-release
 rpm and add my own repo files so that all of my machines pull from my local
 repos. Yes, I know that the modified repo files do not get overwritten but
 that does not help for new machines nor does it help when I change my local
 configuration. When I rebuild the centos-release rpm I actually modify it so
 that a new version  of the rpm overwrites any existing .repo files.

Ah, I see now why you are doing this, I wasn't aware that the release package 
contains those .repo files. *However*, as I said earlier (and unless you use 
different filenames for your local repo) the new centos-release will *not* 
overwrite your existing CentOS-Base.repo file etc. So, if this is your 
concern: this is not a problem.

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Re: [CentOS] new kernel = no working sound

2011-04-10 Thread Iulian L Dragomir
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Rob Kampen rkam...@kampensonline.com wrote:

 I found that there was another module loading before the snd-hda-intel
 thus I added index=0 to the one I needed and index=1 to the other module
 that seemed to get in the way.
 the clue was looking under SystemAdministrationSound Card Detection and
 seeing the  Audio configuration dialog  Settings tab - it showed my desired
 sound card as number 1 rather than 0 with another item as number 0 (one I
 did not even know was on the computer).
 Took me a recompiled kernel and hours of wasted time. Old kernels all worked
 fine - thus I thought it was a kernel patch problem - removed all the
 related patches and still no joy.
 I do not know what they are doing to the kernel but over time the loading of
 modules, order of disk detection etc is becoming much more of an issue.
 HTH YMMV

Thank you for your explanations and for the suggestions.

Unfortunately i only have a single device in Sound Card Detection 
Audio configuration dialog  Settings tab so the snd-hda-intel is
number 0.

Patching and recompiling the kernel is over my level of expertise.

For the moment i will continue to use
kernel#2.6.18-194.26.1.el5.centos.plus at least the next kernel update
will appear.

Elrepo and kmod-alsa provided by them is the next thing on my to do
list (the clue is coming from oracle compatible kernel .. in the
release notes they mention that they updated alsa-hda drivers) .  . If
the problem is solved by this i well see in short time.
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[CentOS] Centos 5.6 and httpd

2011-04-10 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
A problem with httpd on 5.6

I have three Centos machines that were automatically upgraded from 5.5.
to 5.6.  Everything appears to be running perfect except httpd had
stopped delivering web service on all three machines.  I did a cursive
look to see if there had been a reported bug and found :

http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=4796

When I changed :

chown root.apache /etc/httpd/alias/*.db
chmod 0640 /etc/httpd/alias/*.db

The problem was fixed on all three machines.

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/10/11 1:56 PM, rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 19:19, Ljubomir Ljubojevicoff...@plnet.rs
 wrote:
 If you read some of complaints, you will see some people quote and are
 offended and complain about it will be ready when it is ready attitude
 of devs.

 I think it's fair to suggest that those people should be going to Red
 Hat and purchasing RHEL then.

 Not that this has not been suggested before, but:
 that doesn't have a fixed released-date, either.
 There's a series of betas and then, at some point, a new release comes out.
 (AFAIK).
 ;-)
 I think these people should change to OpenBSD. Usually, there's a release
 on May 1st and November 1st.
 Isn't that what everybody wants?

No, I don't think anybody wants the product to change or the developers to have 
to put in more effort.  But, is anything so good that it can't be improved?

Most of the discussion here has been about the closed nature of the process 
that 
may be limiting possible improvements or the ability to add resources.  It just 
doesn't seem likely to change though, unless the people controlling the process 
see a problem with it, and as long as the scheduled goal is 'whenever it is 
done', how can they see a problem?   If 'whenever' really is the target goal, 
not just an unfortunate temporary circumstance, it should be explained on the 
project web sight for fairness to users, though.

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.6 and httpd

2011-04-10 Thread Steve Thompson
On Sun, 10 Apr 2011, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:

 A problem with httpd on 5.6
 [...]
 chown root.apache /etc/httpd/alias/*.db
 chmod 0640 /etc/httpd/alias/*.db

I had to make the same changes.

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Re: [CentOS] 5.6 - SRPM's

2011-04-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Kai Schaetzl wrote:
 Ah, I see now why you are doing this, I wasn't aware that the release package 
 contains those .repo files. *However*, as I said earlier (and unless you use 
 different filenames for your local repo) the new centos-release will *not* 
 overwrite your existing CentOS-Base.repo file etc. So, if this is your 
 concern: this is not a problem.
 
 Kai
 
 

In order to use my repo files, I move CentOS ones to backup subfolder, 
so update reinsert them.

Since I already have my solution, I'll not return official *.repo files, 
but I will keep in mind .rpmnew stuff.

I created my plc-* (mirrors) and plnet-* (addon packages from various 
repos for desktop use and packages compiled by me) release packages for 
various uses that are saved in subfolder(s) and then I developed small 
shell script that makes it possible to switch from one *.repo set to 
another (like from all of my repositories enabled, with official 
disabled, to only official with only my additional repositories).
So if my server is down, I can update and install from official mirrors 
with ease.

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.6 and httpd

2011-04-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
 A problem with httpd on 5.6
 
 I have three Centos machines that were automatically upgraded from 5.5.
 to 5.6.  Everything appears to be running perfect except httpd had
 stopped delivering web service on all three machines.  I did a cursive
 look to see if there had been a reported bug and found :
 
 http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=4796
 
 When I changed :
 
 chown root.apache /etc/httpd/alias/*.db
 chmod 0640 /etc/httpd/alias/*.db
 
 The problem was fixed on all three machines.
 
 Greg Ennis
 
Thanks for heads-up.

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
John Hodrien wrote:
 On Tue, 5 Apr 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
 
 rpm is here:
 http://rpms.plnet.rs/centos5-i386/RPMS.plnet/skype-2.1.0.81-1.el5.noarch.rpm

 source rpm is now currently publicly available since I rearranged my
 repository links/path but haven't finished.
 
 Since when did skype become noarch?
 
 I'm assuming this is just a wrapper around the presumably rearranged binaries
 that skype ship.  Source RPM then becomes a bit of a misnomer.
 
 jh

Sorry for late post, to much to do.

Yes, skype rpm is only wrapper for staticly compiled skype, but with 
some additional files. I will reassert srpm as soon as possible, in a 
day or two I hope.

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Re: [CentOS] new kernel = no working sound

2011-04-10 Thread Iulian L Dragomir
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Iulian L Dragomir iulia...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Rob Kampen rkam...@kampensonline.com 
 wrote:

 I found that there was another module loading before the snd-hda-intel
 thus I added index=0 to the one I needed and index=1 to the other module
 that seemed to get in the way.
 the clue was looking under SystemAdministrationSound Card Detection and
 seeing the  Audio configuration dialog  Settings tab - it showed my desired
 sound card as number 1 rather than 0 with another item as number 0 (one I
 did not even know was on the computer).
 Took me a recompiled kernel and hours of wasted time. Old kernels all worked
 fine - thus I thought it was a kernel patch problem - removed all the
 related patches and still no joy.
 I do not know what they are doing to the kernel but over time the loading of
 modules, order of disk detection etc is becoming much more of an issue.
 HTH YMMV

 Thank you for your explanations and for the suggestions.

 Unfortunately i only have a single device in Sound Card Detection 
 Audio configuration dialog  Settings tab so the snd-hda-intel is
 number 0.

 Patching and recompiling the kernel is over my level of expertise.

 For the moment i will continue to use
 kernel#2.6.18-194.26.1.el5.centos.plus at least the next kernel update
 will appear.

 Elrepo and kmod-alsa provided by them is the next thing on my to do
 list (the clue is coming from oracle compatible kernel .. in the
 release notes they mention that they updated alsa-hda drivers) .  . If
 the problem is solved by this i well see in short time.


Problem solved by:
yum --enablerepo=elrepo install kmod-alsa

I do hope that the next centos kernel will work out of the box but
till then i will use the above solution

Thanks to everyone for suport
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[CentOS] How to verify all dependencies are being met

2011-04-10 Thread Stephen Harris
I've taken over a CentOS machine.  The previous SA had a habit of using
the --nodeps flag to rpm to remove packages (he was trying to build a
small server and removed packages he felt weren't needed).  I have a
horrible feeling that this has resulted in some required dependencies
no longer being met.  The server kinda-works, but it may break in
unexpected ways;  I don't like being surprised!

Is there an easy way to determine what rpms might be missing?  I'd hoped
to use something like rpm -qR against each of the installed packages,
but that output isn't simply converted to rpm package names.

Any guidance appreciated!

Thanks,

-- 

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[CentOS] Merging Install DVDs on a PXE server

2011-04-10 Thread Digimer
Hi all,

  Probably a simple question, but, I'd like to merge both install DVDs
into one directory on my PXE server. Obviously I will need to copy all
of the files, but do I need to cast a magical incantation to recreate
.discinfo, .treeinfo, etc?

Thanks!

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Re: [CentOS] How to verify all dependencies are being met

2011-04-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Stephen Harris wrote:
 I've taken over a CentOS machine.  The previous SA had a habit of using
 the --nodeps flag to rpm to remove packages (he was trying to build a
 small server and removed packages he felt weren't needed).  I have a
 horrible feeling that this has resulted in some required dependencies
 no longer being met.  The server kinda-works, but it may break in
 unexpected ways;  I don't like being surprised!
 
 Is there an easy way to determine what rpms might be missing?  I'd hoped
 to use something like rpm -qR against each of the installed packages,
 but that output isn't simply converted to rpm package names.
 
 Any guidance appreciated!
 
 Thanks,
 
Try something like this:

yum reinstall $(yum list installed | awk '{print $1}')

It should force reinstall and ask for dependencies in the process, but I 
do not have any broken system to try if it works.

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Re: [CentOS] Merging Install DVDs on a PXE server

2011-04-10 Thread Robert Heller
At Sun, 10 Apr 2011 18:31:43 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
wrote:

 
 Hi all,
 
   Probably a simple question, but, I'd like to merge both install DVDs
 into one directory on my PXE server. Obviously I will need to copy all
 of the files, but do I need to cast a magical incantation to recreate
 .discinfo, .treeinfo, etc?

If all you want to do is create a PXE server that can be used to install
using NFS, you just need the DVD (or CD) .iso files in some NFS exported
(read-only!) directory.  Loopback mount the first DVD/CD and copy the
image froms from images/pxeboot to /tftpboot and put entries in
/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default, and the right 'magic' in /etc/dhcpd.conf
and you are good to go.

 
 Thanks!
 

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Re: [CentOS] Merging Install DVDs on a PXE server

2011-04-10 Thread John R Pierce
On 04/10/11 4:01 PM, Robert Heller wrote:
 At Sun, 10 Apr 2011 18:31:43 -0400 CentOS mailing listcentos@centos.org  
 wrote:

 Hi all,

Probably a simple question, but, I'd like to merge both install DVDs
 into one directory on my PXE server. Obviously I will need to copy all
 of the files, but do I need to cast a magical incantation to recreate
 .discinfo, .treeinfo, etc?
 If all you want to do is create a PXE server that can be used to install
 using NFS, you just need the DVD (or CD) .iso files in some NFS exported
 (read-only!) directory.  Loopback mount the first DVD/CD and copy the
 image froms from images/pxeboot to /tftpboot and put entries in
 /tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default, and the right 'magic' in /etc/dhcpd.conf
 and you are good to go.


the .iso files on the nfs ?  I thought you put all the files IN the iso

personally, when I do PXE, I use a http style install off a local copy 
of the repository.   Its been a little while since i set it up, but 
IIRC, there's some mojo you put in the kickstart file on the tftproot to 
tell it what install type you want (nfs vs http vs whatever)




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Re: [CentOS] Merging Install DVDs on a PXE server

2011-04-10 Thread Digimer
On 04/10/2011 07:01 PM, Robert Heller wrote:
 At Sun, 10 Apr 2011 18:31:43 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
 wrote:
 

 Hi all,

   Probably a simple question, but, I'd like to merge both install DVDs
 into one directory on my PXE server. Obviously I will need to copy all
 of the files, but do I need to cast a magical incantation to recreate
 .discinfo, .treeinfo, etc?
 
 If all you want to do is create a PXE server that can be used to install
 using NFS, you just need the DVD (or CD) .iso files in some NFS exported
 (read-only!) directory.  Loopback mount the first DVD/CD and copy the
 image froms from images/pxeboot to /tftpboot and put entries in
 /tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default, and the right 'magic' in /etc/dhcpd.conf
 and you are good to go.

I've done that (well, minus NFS). I can easily enough install without
the second DVD ISO, as the servers won't have openoffice anyway.

My question was more a point of curiosity. I supposed I could have said
how can I merge the two ISOs into one and gotten matching answers. So
then, the real question is; How can I recreate the package list that is
found in the ISO that anaconda uses to know what packages are available?

Cheers!

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Re: [CentOS] Webalizer and GeoIP?

2011-04-10 Thread Lucian
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a small problem with webalizer. I use it to analyze logs of a small web
 server hosting a single site, and the only thing I am interested in from
 webalizer is the piechart diagram it produces about the geographic
 distribution of people visiting the site.

 However, the piechart it produces gives me a very crude information, with 50%
 or so of visitors belonging to unresolved, some to .net, some to .com and
 some country-specific. For an example, you can take a look at

  http://sith.ipb.ac.rs/webal/usage_201103.html#TOPCTRYS

 I would like some more fine-grained diagram, at least in the unresolved 
 part.
 Am I missing something, or is this really as good as it gets?

 I have the GeoIP and GeoIP-data packages installed, but they don't seem to do
 anything. I looked up the /etc/webalizer.conf file, but there seems to be no
 relevant settings to tweak. I've even read the webalizer man page ;-) , but
 failed to find anything related. Using google produced (among other things)
 this how-to:

  http://www.lifelinux.com/how-to-install-webalizer-on-centos/

 but that is for CentOS 5.4, it is written by an unknown source and suggests I
 should recompile webalizer and GeoIP from source, which is not the proper
 way to do it, I guess.

 This is all on a freshly updated CentOS 5.6. :-) I'd appreciate any pointers.

 TIA, :-)
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Hi,

You should use awffull from RPMforge. It's supposed to be compatible
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Re: [CentOS] Merging Install DVDs on a PXE server

2011-04-10 Thread Digimer
On 04/10/2011 07:10 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 04/10/11 4:01 PM, Robert Heller wrote:
 At Sun, 10 Apr 2011 18:31:43 -0400 CentOS mailing listcentos@centos.org  
 wrote:

 Hi all,

Probably a simple question, but, I'd like to merge both install DVDs
 into one directory on my PXE server. Obviously I will need to copy all
 of the files, but do I need to cast a magical incantation to recreate
 .discinfo, .treeinfo, etc?
 If all you want to do is create a PXE server that can be used to install
 using NFS, you just need the DVD (or CD) .iso files in some NFS exported
 (read-only!) directory.  Loopback mount the first DVD/CD and copy the
 image froms from images/pxeboot to /tftpboot and put entries in
 /tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default, and the right 'magic' in /etc/dhcpd.conf
 and you are good to go.

 
 the .iso files on the nfs ?  I thought you put all the files IN the iso
 
 personally, when I do PXE, I use a http style install off a local copy 
 of the repository.   Its been a little while since i set it up, but 
 IIRC, there's some mojo you put in the kickstart file on the tftproot to 
 tell it what install type you want (nfs vs http vs whatever)

Ya, I use it over http as well.

In kickstart; use:
url --url=http://192.168.1.254/c5/x86_64/img/

In the PXE config file, the matching entry would be something like:

LABEL c5_an-node01
MENU LABEL ^1) Install AN!Node01; Storage Node 01 - Cluster 2
KERNEL boot/c5/x86_64/vmlinuz
APPEND initrd=boot/c5/x86_64/initrd.img
ks=http://192.168.1.254/c5/x86_64/ks/an-node01.ks ksdevice=eth1

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Re: [CentOS] Merging Install DVDs on a PXE server

2011-04-10 Thread Christopher Buckley
That's what the OP is saying to do when he states you loopback mount the ISO's.

Christopher J. Buckley
Sent from my iPhone

On 11 Apr 2011, at 00:10, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote:

 On 04/10/11 4:01 PM, Robert Heller wrote:
 At Sun, 10 Apr 2011 18:31:43 -0400 CentOS mailing listcentos@centos.org  
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
   Probably a simple question, but, I'd like to merge both install DVDs
 into one directory on my PXE server. Obviously I will need to copy all
 of the files, but do I need to cast a magical incantation to recreate
 .discinfo, .treeinfo, etc?
 If all you want to do is create a PXE server that can be used to install
 using NFS, you just need the DVD (or CD) .iso files in some NFS exported
 (read-only!) directory.  Loopback mount the first DVD/CD and copy the
 image froms from images/pxeboot to /tftpboot and put entries in
 /tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default, and the right 'magic' in /etc/dhcpd.conf
 and you are good to go.
 
 
 the .iso files on the nfs ?  I thought you put all the files IN the iso
 
 personally, when I do PXE, I use a http style install off a local copy 
 of the repository.   Its been a little while since i set it up, but 
 IIRC, there's some mojo you put in the kickstart file on the tftproot to 
 tell it what install type you want (nfs vs http vs whatever)
 
 
 
 
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Re: [CentOS] 5.6 - SRPM's

2011-04-10 Thread Bob Hepple
On Sat, 9 Apr 2011 23:42:41 +0100
Tom Brown t...@ng23.net wrote:

 Hi
 
 Is there any ETA for the SRPM's from the base tree of 5.6? I need to
 get my hands on the src for the centos-release package as i have to
 rebuilt it to prevent the repo definitions from being included.
 
 I see the src's for the updates RPM's but not the base.
 

I'm hazarding a guess here - that the os/{i386,x86_64}/CentOS/*.rpm's that
have 'centos' in the name have had changes made for CentOS. The others
have not and the sources are available from upstream at eg

http://mirrors.kernel.org/redhat/redhat/linux/enterprise/5Server/en/os/SRPMS/

Can anyone please confirm/deny that? 





I looked at a couple of examples including eg httpd - 

rpm -qpi 5.6/os/x86_64/CentOS/rpm-4.4.2.3-22.el5.x86_64.rpm

Name: rpm  Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version : 4.4.2.3   Vendor: CentOS
Release : 22.el5Build Date: Sun Mar  6 13:40:33 2011
Install Date: (not installed)   Build Host: builder10.centos.org
Group   : System Environment/Base   Source RPM: 
rpm-4.4.2.3-22.el5.src.rpm
Size: 3754140  License: GPLv2+
Signature   : DSA/SHA1, Tue Mar 22 09:37:08 2011, Key ID a8a447dce8562897
URL : http://www.rpm.org/
Summary : The RPM package management system
...

... so it's built from rpm-4.4.2.3-22.el5.src.rpm ... the same _name_
as the upstream vendor's source.

Oddly, the 5.5 binary carries 'centos' in it's release field:

5.5/os/x86_64/CentOS/httpd-2.2.3-43.el5.centos.x86_64.rpm

... so the good devs had to make changes there, yet not for 5.6!!!???





Cheers


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Re: [CentOS] 5.6 - SRPM's

2011-04-10 Thread Bob Hepple
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 09:40:25 +1000
Bob Hepple bhep...@promptu.com wrote:

 On Sat, 9 Apr 2011 23:42:41 +0100
 Tom Brown t...@ng23.net wrote:
 
  Hi
  
  Is there any ETA for the SRPM's from the base tree of 5.6? I need to
  get my hands on the src for the centos-release package as i have to
  rebuilt it to prevent the repo definitions from being included.
  
  I see the src's for the updates RPM's but not the base.
  
 
 I'm hazarding a guess here - that the os/{i386,x86_64}/CentOS/*.rpm's that
 have 'centos' in the name have had changes made for CentOS. The others
 have not and the sources are available from upstream at eg
 
 http://mirrors.kernel.org/redhat/redhat/linux/enterprise/5Server/en/os/SRPMS/
 
 Can anyone please confirm/deny that? 

Oh well, so much for that idea! According to the release notes
(http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6) there is a list
of packages modified by centos - and that includes httpd. So the
absence of 'centos' in the release string does _not_ mean that the
package is unmodified (ie it's merely re-built).

Sigh!!! Just have to wait for the centos SRPMS then


Cheers


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Re: [CentOS] Usb surf stick for internet

2011-04-10 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic off...@plnet.rs wrote:
 Olaf Mueller wrote:
 I am searching for an internet usb surf-stick (umts) that works under
 CentOS. Is anyone using such a stick and if so, which chip has this
 usb-stick?

 Would a Huawei E160E chip work under CentOS? Or maybe under CentOS with
 the 2.6.35 kernel from elrepo?
 Thank you very much!
snip
 Visit this page:
 http://pyhumod.ooz.ie/
 and you will have all of your questions answered.

Interesting thread and thank you for the above link. I will do some
studying. The cell phone operators here in Colombia (GSM networks) all
sell those things, but they natively work only on Windows and MACs.
When our ADSL goes down, it would be nice to have one of those USB
sticks, for HSDPA connectivity, as a backup.
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[CentOS] firefox slow on 5.6

2011-04-10 Thread Jerry Geis
I have updated to 5.6 - GREAT job guys...

when I do host slashdot.org for example it comes back immediately.
when I enter slashdot.org on firefox it says Looking up slashdot.org 
for a LONG time like 15 or 20 seconds
before continuing.

I have set network.dns.disableIPv6 true.

Any idea why firefox is so slow?

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Re: [CentOS] How to verify all dependencies are being met

2011-04-10 Thread Stephen Harris
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 12:33:56AM +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
  Is there an easy way to determine what rpms might be missing?  I'd hoped
  to use something like rpm -qR against each of the installed packages,
  but that output isn't simply converted to rpm package names.

 Try something like this:
 
 yum reinstall $(yum list installed | awk '{print $1}')

Hmm, interesting idea.  Not too efficient, and could possibly break
config files if the rpm isn't well formed.  But, hmm... interesting.

This led me to yum deplist... which sounds like it might also be
usable.  Not quite clean-cut but a definite possibility!

Thanks.

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Re: [CentOS] Merging Install DVDs on a PXE server

2011-04-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/10/11 6:10 PM, John R Pierce wrote:


 Probably a simple question, but, I'd like to merge both install DVDs
 into one directory on my PXE server. Obviously I will need to copy all
 of the files, but do I need to cast a magical incantation to recreate
 .discinfo, .treeinfo, etc?
 If all you want to do is create a PXE server that can be used to install
 using NFS, you just need the DVD (or CD) .iso files in some NFS exported
 (read-only!) directory.  Loopback mount the first DVD/CD and copy the
 image froms from images/pxeboot to /tftpboot and put entries in
 /tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default, and the right 'magic' in /etc/dhcpd.conf
 and you are good to go.


 the .iso files on the nfs ?  I thought you put all the files IN the iso

 personally, when I do PXE, I use a http style install off a local copy
 of the repository.   Its been a little while since i set it up, but
 IIRC, there's some mojo you put in the kickstart file on the tftproot to
 tell it what install type you want (nfs vs http vs whatever)

The installer has always known how to deal directly with all the CD iso images 
under an nfs directory by itself without fiddling with any files.  I'd expect 
it 
to do the same with the dvds, but haven't tried that since there were two of 
them.

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Re: [CentOS] Merging Install DVDs on a PXE server

2011-04-10 Thread Robert Heller
At Sun, 10 Apr 2011 16:10:11 -0700 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
wrote:

 
 On 04/10/11 4:01 PM, Robert Heller wrote:
  At Sun, 10 Apr 2011 18:31:43 -0400 CentOS mailing listcentos@centos.org  
  wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
 Probably a simple question, but, I'd like to merge both install DVDs
  into one directory on my PXE server. Obviously I will need to copy all
  of the files, but do I need to cast a magical incantation to recreate
  .discinfo, .treeinfo, etc?
  If all you want to do is create a PXE server that can be used to install
  using NFS, you just need the DVD (or CD) .iso files in some NFS exported
  (read-only!) directory.  Loopback mount the first DVD/CD and copy the
  image froms from images/pxeboot to /tftpboot and put entries in
  /tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default, and the right 'magic' in /etc/dhcpd.conf
  and you are good to go.
 
 
 the .iso files on the nfs ?  I thought you put all the files IN the iso

Just the ISO files themselves in an NFS exported directory, nothing
more.  Anaconda knows all about mount ... -o loop ... and does what it
needs to do. No additional fussing about (no need to install httpd or
ftpd, etc.). You just need to install tftpd and dhcpd and there you
are.

*Actually* I have also done things like 'install' the pxe boot files in
the /boot directory of the target machine and boot it with lilo (grub
would also work, but I have always used lilo).  This is how I have done
clean install upgrades (major version updates -- V3.x = 4.x, or 4.x to
5.x, etc.), with either the ISOs on a separate partition that I was not
going to reformat) (eg /home) or on another machine via NFS.

 
 personally, when I do PXE, I use a http style install off a local copy 
 of the repository.   Its been a little while since i set it up, but 
 IIRC, there's some mojo you put in the kickstart file on the tftproot to 
 tell it what install type you want (nfs vs http vs whatever)
 
 
 
 
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Re: [CentOS] How to verify all dependencies are being met

2011-04-10 Thread Yves Bellefeuille
On Sunday 10 April 2011 17:51, Stephen Harris wrote:

 I've taken over a CentOS machine.  The previous SA had a habit of
 using the --nodeps flag to rpm to remove packages (he was trying to
 build a small server and removed packages he felt weren't needed).  I
 have a horrible feeling that this has resulted in some required
 dependencies no longer being met.  The server kinda-works, but it may
 break in unexpected ways;  I don't like being surprised!

 Is there an easy way to determine what rpms might be missing?  I'd
 hoped to use something like rpm -qR against each of the installed
 packages, but that output isn't simply converted to rpm package
 names.

Does package-cleanup --problems do what you want? It's in the 
yum-utils package.

--problems: List dependency problems in the local RPM database.

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Re: [CentOS] How to verify all dependencies are being met

2011-04-10 Thread S.Tindall

On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 21:00 -0400, Stephen Harris wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 12:33:56AM +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
   Is there an easy way to determine what rpms might be missing?  I'd hoped
   to use something like rpm -qR against each of the installed packages,
   but that output isn't simply converted to rpm package names.
 
  Try something like this:
  
  yum reinstall $(yum list installed | awk '{print $1}')
 
 Hmm, interesting idea.  Not too efficient, and could possibly break
 config files if the rpm isn't well formed.  But, hmm... interesting.
 
 This led me to yum deplist... which sounds like it might also be
 usable.  Not quite clean-cut but a definite possibility!
 

Install yum-utils and then try:

 # package-cleanup --problems


From the package-cleanup manpage:

 --problems

  List dependency problems in the local RPM database.

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Re: [CentOS] ext4 support in anaconda?

2011-04-10 Thread Phil Schaffner
S.Tindall wrote on 04/10/2011 01:46 PM:
 Just boot the installer with the ext4 option and anaconda will be able
 to format ext4, or at least that works in 5.5.

Works just as well on 5.6.

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Re: [CentOS] the mighty Karanbir Singh and centos team

2011-04-10 Thread Trutwin, Joshua
 On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Kevin Thorpe kevin.tho...@pibenchmark.com 
 wrote:
 Cheers Karanbeer (sic) and team, I think we all owe you several cold ones.

BTW, you can actually follow through on that:

http://www.yougotbeer.com/

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Re: [CentOS] How to verify all dependencies are being met

2011-04-10 Thread Stephen Harris
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 09:46:48PM -0400, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
 Does package-cleanup --problems do what you want? It's in the 

Looks good!

  % package-cleanup --problems
  Setting up yum
  Reading local RPM database
  Processing all local requires
  Missing dependencies:
  Package perl-IO-Zlib requires perl(Compress::Zlib)
  Package perl-libwww-perl requires perl(Compress::Zlib)
  Package perl-Archive-Tar requires perl(Compress::Zlib)

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Re: [CentOS] ext4 support in anaconda?

2011-04-10 Thread Brandon Ooi
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Phil Schaffner philip.r.schaff...@nasa.gov
 wrote:

 S.Tindall wrote on 04/10/2011 01:46 PM:
  Just boot the installer with the ext4 option and anaconda will be able
  to format ext4, or at least that works in 5.5.

 Works just as well on 5.6.


Sorry, this is the first time I've heard of this. How do you boot the
installer with the ext4 option? Can this also be done via kickstart?

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Re: [CentOS] ext4 support in anaconda?

2011-04-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Monday, April 11, 2011 10:53 AM, Brandon Ooi wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Phil Schaffner
 philip.r.schaff...@nasa.gov mailto:philip.r.schaff...@nasa.gov wrote:

 S.Tindall wrote on 04/10/2011 01:46 PM:
   Just boot the installer with the ext4 option and anaconda will
 be able
   to format ext4, or at least that works in 5.5.

 Works just as well on 5.6.


 Sorry, this is the first time I've heard of this. How do you boot the
 installer with the ext4 option? Can this also be done via kickstart?


Kernel parameters

eg: linux ext4

Yes, it can be done for kickstart too.
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[CentOS] compiling xvnc

2011-04-10 Thread Michel Donais
Just new to Centos 5.6.
I'm trying to install an Xvnc server

Downloaded tightvnc-1.3.10_unixsrc.bz2
I made thru configure but when I make I get these messages

 make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/home/michel/importe/tightvnc-1.3.10_unixsrc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/programs/Xserver/hw/vnc'
make[2]: *** No rule to make target `../.././/../libvncauth/libvncauth.a', 
needed by `Xvnc'.  Stop.
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/home/michel/importe/tightvnc-1.3.10_unixsrc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/programs/Xserver'
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/home/michel/importe/tightvnc-1.3.10_unixsrc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/programs'
make: *** [all] Error 2

I'm not used to build application,. so I don't understand or don't know 
where to find the missing rule

Can somebody point me a solution?

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Re: [CentOS] compiling xvnc

2011-04-10 Thread Christopher Chan
Hi,

On Monday, April 11, 2011 11:06 AM, Michel Donais wrote:
 Just new to Centos 5.6.
 I'm trying to install an Xvnc server

rpm -qf /usr/bin/Xvnc
vnc-server-4.1.2-14.el5_5.4

Maybe you just install the vnc-server package?


 Can somebody point me a solution?

As above
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Re: [CentOS] compiling xvnc

2011-04-10 Thread John R Pierce
On 04/10/11 8:06 PM, Michel Donais wrote:
 Just new to Centos 5.6.
 I'm trying to install an Xvnc server

 Downloaded tightvnc-1.3.10_unixsrc.bz2
 I made thru configure but when I make I get these messages

   make[3]: Leaving directory
 `/home/michel/importe/tightvnc-1.3.10_unixsrc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/programs/Xserver/hw/vnc'
 make[2]: *** No rule to make target `../.././/../libvncauth/libvncauth.a',
 needed by `Xvnc'.  Stop.
 make[2]: Leaving directory
 `/home/michel/importe/tightvnc-1.3.10_unixsrc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/programs/Xserver'
 make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
 make[1]: Leaving directory
 `/home/michel/importe/tightvnc-1.3.10_unixsrc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/programs'
 make: *** [all] Error 2

 I'm not used to build application,. so I don't understand or don't know
 where to find the missing rule

 Can somebody point me a solution?

configure the rpmforge repository, then

 yum install tightvnc-server


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Re: [CentOS] the mighty Karanbir Singh and centos team

2011-04-10 Thread compdoc
 BTW, you can actually follow through on that:

http://www.yougotbeer.com/

Josh


That site only seems to work for people in the US. Be expensive for them to
travel here for a sixpack.


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Re: [CentOS] the mighty Karanbir Singh and centos team

2011-04-10 Thread John R Pierce
On 04/10/11 9:08 PM, compdoc wrote:
 BTW, you can actually follow through on that:

 http://www.yougotbeer.com/

 Josh

 That site only seems to work for people in the US. Be expensive for them to
 travel here for a sixpack.

yeah, and mostly its a few chain restaurants like Chili's.  Not exactly 
the first place in mind when I'm going out for a beer.


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Re: [CentOS] compiling xvnc

2011-04-10 Thread Michel Donais
 configure the rpmforge repository, then
 
 yum install tightvnc-server
 


Thank's, it worked

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