Re: [CentOS-docs] Request for access to delete my wiki attachments
Am 04.05.11 03:07, schrieb Garry Dale: Greetings: May I have access to delete my wiki attachments? Um. I didn't know that there's a special ACL in place for that. Where? Regards, Ralph ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Proposal for a new page - NFS port locking
Am 03.05.11 13:31, schrieb Steve Barnes: Unless there's a more suitable area, I can work on the initial scratch version in my home page area (which I don't presently have permission to edit). You now have and yeah, that looks like a good idea :) Cheers, Ralph ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:0484 CentOS 5 x86_64 rsyslog Update
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:0484 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-0484.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: d143c3a113b44d178f53d64a4ce32f0f rsyslog-3.22.1-3.el5_6.1.x86_64.rpm 2e0cd31d621eda21fb2a1ac3688df7cf rsyslog-gnutls-3.22.1-3.el5_6.1.x86_64.rpm 6baa24c42a5e73ab11fc1847c19b75ef rsyslog-gssapi-3.22.1-3.el5_6.1.x86_64.rpm cf73c706c7d98ecc1cb5fb2d7646ffda rsyslog-mysql-3.22.1-3.el5_6.1.x86_64.rpm f1961a8a70aa05997c18640dc552993c rsyslog-pgsql-3.22.1-3.el5_6.1.x86_64.rpm Source: 47ae92ba7ad02670469a5ff01b07e54c rsyslog-3.22.1-3.el5_6.1.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #cen...@irc.freenode.net ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-announce] CESA-2011:0486 Moderate CentOS 5 i386 xmlsec1 Update
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2011:0486 Moderate Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-0486.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) i386: 8b0e44c26ad3b7aa3aa12a9d4f3f506d xmlsec1-1.2.9-8.1.2.i386.rpm df35c82c3fbc8da8e42fafc1418fa9cb xmlsec1-devel-1.2.9-8.1.2.i386.rpm 8ee534f6c2707c05b0a173032b3a67bb xmlsec1-gnutls-1.2.9-8.1.2.i386.rpm 9bdc8bebfb6b8eed24c31457d195f5a3 xmlsec1-gnutls-devel-1.2.9-8.1.2.i386.rpm 46e6dfbc0264c61098b271bc1b64cc39 xmlsec1-nss-1.2.9-8.1.2.i386.rpm 43b7eab152ded73a03182205294822cd xmlsec1-nss-devel-1.2.9-8.1.2.i386.rpm 5cd82ca547d8e4120c3c6de92c581241 xmlsec1-openssl-1.2.9-8.1.2.i386.rpm 8f0940ee5ed01c595f6ad0f3dff89740 xmlsec1-openssl-devel-1.2.9-8.1.2.i386.rpm Source: ef5c19dc5477f95cefc8e4ccdeeb0a15 xmlsec1-1.2.9-8.1.2.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #cen...@irc.freenode.net ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-announce] CESA-2011:0486 Moderate CentOS 5 x86_64 xmlsec1 Update
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2011:0486 Moderate Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-0486.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: 5130f2e96271450895873c6977300677 xmlsec1-1.2.9-8.1.2.i386.rpm 6c5b948fd25323d12dd023f08d655a4c xmlsec1-1.2.9-8.1.2.x86_64.rpm 4cb5da9d43b7a44608cc6d037beb2f7b xmlsec1-devel-1.2.9-8.1.2.i386.rpm 3bebed74742f7470f9a7987d961f988c xmlsec1-devel-1.2.9-8.1.2.x86_64.rpm 0835642a9e820776bad87330664ef433 xmlsec1-gnutls-1.2.9-8.1.2.i386.rpm 8ba7101de5ad963bae5cf4bc1b707b8c xmlsec1-gnutls-1.2.9-8.1.2.x86_64.rpm c608a5c521296792c00d174f4a01fe7b xmlsec1-gnutls-devel-1.2.9-8.1.2.i386.rpm 4cc4db884a4dc7a93eed1cf6285da7e8 xmlsec1-gnutls-devel-1.2.9-8.1.2.x86_64.rpm bd5337fdb3b5d83c3106346f17ce3d35 xmlsec1-nss-1.2.9-8.1.2.i386.rpm 9730b3bf101d4471add5a161e82a6e33 xmlsec1-nss-1.2.9-8.1.2.x86_64.rpm b6c56951854b751ec7cfda4cdcc419ae xmlsec1-nss-devel-1.2.9-8.1.2.i386.rpm be87848586b0c14374d52a871659d460 xmlsec1-nss-devel-1.2.9-8.1.2.x86_64.rpm c6ba301a54efc61835b6e0fb5db08b43 xmlsec1-openssl-1.2.9-8.1.2.i386.rpm 4ecbd7f241df520be4a0eb41ae70a532 xmlsec1-openssl-1.2.9-8.1.2.x86_64.rpm 8a911965b2513f126b6af49c55cde83b xmlsec1-openssl-devel-1.2.9-8.1.2.i386.rpm 5c1ff50505d881dbc13de4abe0926f78 xmlsec1-openssl-devel-1.2.9-8.1.2.x86_64.rpm Source: ef5c19dc5477f95cefc8e4ccdeeb0a15 xmlsec1-1.2.9-8.1.2.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #cen...@irc.freenode.net ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-announce] CEEA-2011:0485 CentOS 5 i386 java-1.6.0-openjdk Update
CentOS Errata and Enhancement Advisory 2011:0485 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-2011-0485.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) i386: 07e573737fe2cb4240ed14e1ca6e1448 java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-1.21.b17.el5.i386.rpm ea2390b7fc86abc0329dfe8008f0bdfe java-1.6.0-openjdk-demo-1.6.0.0-1.21.b17.el5.i386.rpm 4c6b0bf1852af3ca9d133c990b20fd1d java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel-1.6.0.0-1.21.b17.el5.i386.rpm df5f23555971756f7b6d2ab09893db70 java-1.6.0-openjdk-javadoc-1.6.0.0-1.21.b17.el5.i386.rpm 86141c1e27324de42a81819df811f346 java-1.6.0-openjdk-src-1.6.0.0-1.21.b17.el5.i386.rpm 5a4a0f179659c98c76f0f694ce86d9fc jline-0.9.94-0.9.el5_6.noarch.rpm 7959ad650bb26fe2fb0fdf4fcfa8983a rhino-1.7-0.7.r2.3.el5_6.noarch.rpm c8830dcfbcf951a35a30f9137572f90f rhino-javadoc-1.7-0.7.r2.3.el5_6.noarch.rpm Source: 442db29ad8e73a977a23ab9e942e2b4b java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-1.21.b17.el5.src.rpm 002cb683d1aa382455e4a38fd6596004 jline-0.9.94-0.9.el5_6.src.rpm 4824c5c813137442fbb26346d18a5d74 rhino-1.7-0.7.r2.3.el5_6.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #cen...@irc.freenode.net ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:0487 CentOS 5 x86_64 autofs Update
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:0487 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-0487.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: d7a55cf8ca16338697c08ea770dd9ec8 autofs-5.0.1-0.rc2.143.el5_6.2.x86_64.rpm Source: d5bc7ce2d88ed9419294362e5844220e autofs-5.0.1-0.rc2.143.el5_6.2.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #cen...@irc.freenode.net ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-announce] CESA-2011:0492 Moderate CentOS 5 x86_64 python Update
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2011:0492 Moderate Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-0492.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: 90629177cd0836019aee2e44a518db62 python-2.4.3-44.el5.x86_64.rpm 75c0d2446daa9dff7c5c5566cffbbfb8 python-devel-2.4.3-44.el5.i386.rpm 9a49e33d9318c24fe754d12bbdc8bdd3 python-devel-2.4.3-44.el5.x86_64.rpm ab9df3818cef496b9f3c83556a5cb0cd python-libs-2.4.3-44.el5.x86_64.rpm 87be4464f5d26354b8035f1f9b6c55bb python-tools-2.4.3-44.el5.x86_64.rpm d23ceae12d7b2a2f168bbb0e5c4a6005 tkinter-2.4.3-44.el5.x86_64.rpm Source: efc996fa3809b9f0e039b01d3059390f python-2.4.3-44.el5.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #cen...@irc.freenode.net ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-announce] CESA-2011:0491 Moderate CentOS 4 i386 python Update
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2011:0491 Moderate Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-0491.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) i386: d311dcb943078e6f675e981107f42918 python-2.3.4-14.10.el4.i386.rpm 683bc6672708daa9bda4d63013f7ceb3 python-devel-2.3.4-14.10.el4.i386.rpm ee8bb9ca9c4547b9d94e7b160c25f224 python-docs-2.3.4-14.10.el4.i386.rpm 05288a82a4216fb0c1904b5a4d6fa381 python-tools-2.3.4-14.10.el4.i386.rpm 19f2ca8f2dcdb17abbd871cc747333d9 tkinter-2.3.4-14.10.el4.i386.rpm Source: 0f94a1fde885931714e24343daf03b4a python-2.3.4-14.10.el4.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #cen...@irc.freenode.net ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-announce] CESA-2011:0491 Moderate CentOS 4 x86_64 python Update
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2011:0491 Moderate Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-0491.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: 352156ce3ee00a0355654f87c008c6d1 python-2.3.4-14.10.el4.x86_64.rpm a36d16b45ec74aa5864cd0a2aff23e3a python-devel-2.3.4-14.10.el4.x86_64.rpm f41a3d429a1490934efec9e6467a55f4 python-docs-2.3.4-14.10.el4.x86_64.rpm 3743a41e4bda55f93cb957874f3da8d4 python-tools-2.3.4-14.10.el4.x86_64.rpm c912444bfdd31372b51163a9a8101de1 tkinter-2.3.4-14.10.el4.x86_64.rpm Source: 0f94a1fde885931714e24343daf03b4a python-2.3.4-14.10.el4.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #cen...@irc.freenode.net ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-es] Problemas Con Flood, CENTOSD 5.5
On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 08:50:51 -0300, Eduardo Grosclaude wrote 2011/4/19 Cesar Augusto Martinez Cobo cmc...@ciencias.udea.edu.co On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:12:50 -0300, Luciano Andrés Chiarotto wrote Hola a todos. Saludos Compañeros, Me dirijo a ustedes, para solicitarle un favor, tengo instalado Centos 5.6 y se me ha presentado un problema con la instalacion de Mysql, la version de este manejador de bases de datos que tengo instalada es la siguiente: mysql-5.0.77-4.el5_5.5 mysql-server-5.0.77-4.el5_5.5 Cuando voy a iniciar el servicio simplemente me saca este erro y no medice mas: /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysqld start Timeout error occurred trying to start MySQL Daemon. Iniciando MySQL: [FALLÃ] Buenos dias compañeros. En este momento tengo instalado un CENTOS 5.5, y resulta que estan atacando el servidor desde hace varios dias con un progra que se llama flood.tgz, esto lo que me parece es que monta al parecer un robot para mandar mails y otras cosas, el ataques es haciendome syn flood y DDoS. Es lo que parece que hace este programa, se me olvidaba el programa lo montan en : /temp o en /var/tmp y montan otro archivo en /var/spool/crond/ Quisiera saber que puedo hacer para evitar este ataque. De antemano muchas gracias por su colaboracion, espero una respuesta o respuestas lo mas pronto posible. Muchas gracias Cesar Augusto Martinez Cobo Administrador de Sistemas Facultad de Ciencias Exactas y Naturales Universidad de Antioquia e-mail: cmc...@matematicas.udea.edu.co cmc...@ciencias.udea.edu.co Tel: ++57(4)2195604 Medellin - Colombia ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
[CentOS-es] Problemas Con Flood, CENTOS 5.5
Buenos dias compañeros. En este momento tengo instalado un CENTOS 5.5, y resulta que estan atacando el servidor desde hace varios dias con un progra que se llama flood.tgz, esto lo que me parece es que monta al parecer un robot para mandar mails y otras cosas, el ataques es haciendome syn flood y DDoS. Es lo que parece que hace este programa, se me olvidaba el programa lo montan en : /temp o en /var/tmp y montan otro archivo en /var/spool/crond/ Quisiera saber que puedo hacer para evitar este ataque. De antemano muchas gracias por su colaboracion, espero una respuesta o respuestas lo mas pronto posible. Muchas gracias Cesar Augusto Martinez Cobo Administrador de Sistemas Facultad de Ciencias Exactas y Naturales Universidad de Antioquia e-mail: cmc...@matematicas.udea.edu.co cmc...@ciencias.udea.edu.co Tel: ++57(4)2195604 Medellin - Colombia ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
[CentOS-es] Error HTTPD - No carga el web
mis saludos tengan todos queridos colegas , el problemita es el siguiente, el apache se inicializa aparentemente de forma perfecta , pero no me carga las web, de tanto esperar a que cargara el web, fui alos log y alli me encontre con lo siguiente error : [Thu May 05 16:36:40 2011] [error] NSS_Initialize failed. Certificate database: /etc/httpd/alias. [Thu May 05 16:36:40 2011] [error] SSL Library Error: -8038 SEC_ERROR_NOT_INITIALIZED podrian ustedes explicarme de que se trata, espero puedan ayudarme ...gracias de antemano -- Universidad de Oriente.Cuba: http://www.uo.edu.cu http://www.facebook.com/UO.Cuba http://twitter.com/Univ_Ote_Cuba -- Participe en: *- VII Encuentro Internacional Ciudad Imagen y Memoria. Mayo 2011. http://www.uo.edu.cu/eventos/cim2011.pdf *- IV Congreso Internacional de Psicología. Julio 2011. http://cip.eventos.uo.edu.cu/ *- Conferencia de Química. Diciembre 2011. http://www.uo.edu.cu/eventos/ciq/ -- ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Error HTTPD - No carga el web
Parece un problema con los certificados, ¿como los generaste? El 5 de mayo de 2011 22:48, Javier Castellanos jcastella...@csh.uo.edu.cuescribió: mis saludos tengan todos queridos colegas , el problemita es el siguiente, el apache se inicializa aparentemente de forma perfecta , pero no me carga las web, de tanto esperar a que cargara el web, fui alos log y alli me encontre con lo siguiente error : [Thu May 05 16:36:40 2011] [error] NSS_Initialize failed. Certificate database: /etc/httpd/alias. [Thu May 05 16:36:40 2011] [error] SSL Library Error: -8038 SEC_ERROR_NOT_INITIALIZED podrian ustedes explicarme de que se trata, espero puedan ayudarme ...gracias de antemano -- Universidad de Oriente.Cuba: http://www.uo.edu.cu http://www.facebook.com/UO.Cuba http://twitter.com/Univ_Ote_Cuba -- Participe en: *- VII Encuentro Internacional Ciudad Imagen y Memoria. Mayo 2011. http://www.uo.edu.cu/eventos/cim2011.pdf *- IV Congreso Internacional de Psicología. Julio 2011. http://cip.eventos.uo.edu.cu/ *- Conferencia de Química. Diciembre 2011. http://www.uo.edu.cu/eventos/ciq/ -- ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es -- ___ REPARACIONONLINE GARANTIA PARA SU PC ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Error HTTPD - No carga el web
nada he hecho, solo he actualizado de la 5.3 a la 5.6 y presto me ha surgido este error, ...que crees que pueda ser ? El 05/05/2011 03:51 p.m., victor santana escribió: Parece un problema con los certificados, ¿como los generaste? El 5 de mayo de 2011 22:48, Javier Castellanos jcastella...@csh.uo.edu.cuescribió: mis saludos tengan todos queridos colegas , el problemita es el siguiente, el apache se inicializa aparentemente de forma perfecta , pero no me carga las web, de tanto esperar a que cargara el web, fui alos log y alli me encontre con lo siguiente error : [Thu May 05 16:36:40 2011] [error] NSS_Initialize failed. Certificate database: /etc/httpd/alias. [Thu May 05 16:36:40 2011] [error] SSL Library Error: -8038 SEC_ERROR_NOT_INITIALIZED podrian ustedes explicarme de que se trata, espero puedan ayudarme ...gracias de antemano -- Universidad de Oriente.Cuba: http://www.uo.edu.cu http://www.facebook.com/UO.Cuba http://twitter.com/Univ_Ote_Cuba -- Participe en: *- VII Encuentro Internacional Ciudad Imagen y Memoria. Mayo 2011. http://www.uo.edu.cu/eventos/cim2011.pdf *- IV Congreso Internacional de PsicologÃa. Julio 2011. http://cip.eventos.uo.edu.cu/ *- Conferencia de QuÃmica. Diciembre 2011. http://www.uo.edu.cu/eventos/ciq/ -- ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es -- Javier Castellanos Furet Network/System Administrator Facultad de Ciencias Sociales Universidad de Oriente E-mail: jcastella...@csh.uo.edu.cu Linux user: #500570 ââââ ââââ ââââââ âââââ ÏÏdÏs lÏs DεÑεcнÏs ÑεsεÑvαdÏs. -- Universidad de Oriente.Cuba: http://www.uo.edu.cu http://www.facebook.com/UO.Cuba http://twitter.com/Univ_Ote_Cuba -- Participe en: *- VII Encuentro Internacional Ciudad Imagen y Memoria. Mayo 2011. http://www.uo.edu.cu/eventos/cim2011.pdf *- IV Congreso Internacional de Psicología. Julio 2011. http://cip.eventos.uo.edu.cu/ *- Conferencia de Química. Diciembre 2011. http://www.uo.edu.cu/eventos/ciq/ -- ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Problemas Con Flood, CENTOSD 5.5
desde hace varios dias con un progra que se llama flood.tgz, esto lo que me parece es que monta al parecer un robot para mandar mails y otras cosas, el ataques es haciendome syn flood y DDoS. Es lo que parece que hace este programa, se me olvidaba el programa lo montan en : /temp o en /var/tmp y montan otro archivo en /var/spool/crond/ entonces no te están atacando, te están usando el servicdor para atacarte. los ataques a servidores son muy comunes estos días, lamentablemente cierto. Afortunadamente te has dado cuenta de que te han atacado el servidor y ahora te sugiero que determines por dónde entraron, trates de corregir ese problema y de paso procedas a actualizar el servidor si el ataque no fuera tan grave. simplemente reinstalar sin determinar por dónde entraron es llamar a que el atacante entre de nuevo. saludos epe Quisiera saber que puedo hacer para evitar este ataque. De antemano muchas gracias por su colaboracion, espero una respuesta o respuestas lo mas pronto posible. Muchas gracias Cesar Augusto Martinez Cobo Administrador de Sistemas Facultad de Ciencias Exactas y Naturales Universidad de Antioquia e-mail: cmc...@matematicas.udea.edu.co cmc...@ciencias.udea.edu.co Tel: ++57(4)2195604 Medellin - Colombia ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Error HTTPD - No carga el web
Javier Castellanos wrote: mis saludos tengan todos queridos colegas , el problemita es el siguiente, el apache se inicializa aparentemente de forma perfecta , pero no me carga las web, de tanto esperar a que cargara el web, fui alos log y alli me encontre con lo siguiente error : [Thu May 05 16:36:40 2011] [error] NSS_Initialize failed. Certificate database: /etc/httpd/alias. [Thu May 05 16:36:40 2011] [error] SSL Library Error: -8038 SEC_ERROR_NOT_INITIALIZED hiciste algo en el ssl? usas el ssl? si no le usas elimínale: rpm -e mod_ssl service httpd restart mientras menos paquetes tengas en el servidor menos posibilidad de problemas. saludos epe podrian ustedes explicarme de que se trata, espero puedan ayudarme ...gracias de antemano ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Error HTTPD - No carga el web
gracias por la ayuda ... pero pude resolver el problemilla sin tener que quitar nada lo solucione aplicando esto https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=threadtopic_id=30886forum=38post_id=130901 El 05/05/2011 05:23 p.m., Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez escribió: Javier Castellanos wrote: mis saludos tengan todos queridos colegas , el problemita es el siguiente, el apache se inicializa aparentemente de forma perfecta , pero no me carga las web, de tanto esperar a que cargara el web, fui alos log y alli me encontre con lo siguiente error : [Thu May 05 16:36:40 2011] [error] NSS_Initialize failed. Certificate database: /etc/httpd/alias. [Thu May 05 16:36:40 2011] [error] SSL Library Error: -8038 SEC_ERROR_NOT_INITIALIZED hiciste algo en el ssl? usas el ssl? si no le usas elimÃnale: rpm -e mod_ssl service httpd restart mientras menos paquetes tengas en el servidor menos posibilidad de problemas. saludos epe podrian ustedes explicarme de que se trata, espero puedan ayudarme ...gracias de antemano ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es -- Javier Castellanos Furet Network/System Administrator Facultad de Ciencias Sociales Universidad de Oriente E-mail: jcastella...@csh.uo.edu.cu Linux user: #500570 ââââ ââââ ââââââ âââââ ÏÏdÏs lÏs DεÑεcнÏs ÑεsεÑvαdÏs. -- Universidad de Oriente.Cuba: http://www.uo.edu.cu http://www.facebook.com/UO.Cuba http://twitter.com/Univ_Ote_Cuba -- Participe en: *- VII Encuentro Internacional Ciudad Imagen y Memoria. Mayo 2011. http://www.uo.edu.cu/eventos/cim2011.pdf *- IV Congreso Internacional de Psicología. Julio 2011. http://cip.eventos.uo.edu.cu/ *- Conferencia de Química. Diciembre 2011. http://www.uo.edu.cu/eventos/ciq/ -- ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS] Audio/video recording software
Greetings, On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone! :-) I am supposed to get (for the first time) into the world of making youtube clips. I have a webcam, a microphone and a big hard drive configured and ready. The question is: what would you suggest as an easy-to-use yum-installable app that could handle a couple of minutes/hours of recording? People who are about to use it are complete noobs, and I would like to give them a user interface of type start the program, press record, talk for a while, press stop, press save, quit the program. That is, if something like that exists for CentOS (version 5.6, if it matters). I don't mind proprietary/patented/nonfree A/V formats, codecs and stuff. Anything goes, of a typical amateur youtube quality. I just need something that generates video clips in the simplest way possible. Any recommendations? TIA, :-) Marko ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Cinelerra seems to be more professional but hard to master. can try that -- Regards, Rajagopal ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] LDAPs causing System Message Bus to hang when there's no network
On Thu, 5 May 2011, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 05/03/2011 10:43 AM, aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: Can any one comment on what ppl are using for larger deployments? I hope its not a resounding M$ AD?! Use sssd. It's now included in CentOS 5. Included doesn't necessarily mean usable though. I might be out of date on this, but I thought when I looked at it that it didn't handle nested groups. That made it pretty much pointless for me. It took upgrading to a pre-release of a 6.1 RPM to get something I could use. jh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Finding wich files a writen to
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 12:17:15PM -0400, Nicolas Ross wrote: Hi ! I have a server (Centos 5) that is using a pair of SAS drives to store the data. (Mail server) They are on an adaptec raid controler with a battery backup and write back cache active. From time to time, I have sever peak io to those data disks ( 400 to 500 iops, 70 to 100 megs/sec). With iostat, I find that it's almost a write i/o problem. How can I find to which files the OS writes ? On OSX boxes, there is a utility called fs_usage that can reports any disk activity for a particular process or all processes. Is there any utility like this on Centos ? iotop can points me to wich process, but that doesn't points me to what files are the culprits... Systemtap can [*] be very useful for this. [*] I use DTrace under Solaris. This is one of the best OS feature any sysadmin can have. Systemtap is similar to DTrace (at least it tries to be ...). Look at http://uselessuseofcat.com/?p=281 Regards Przemyslaw Bak (przemol) - Wez udzial w konkursie i WYGRAJ! Sprawdz http://linkint.pl/f299e ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Audio/video recording software
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 09:14, Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone! :-) The question is: what would you suggest as an easy-to-use yum-installable app that could handle a couple of minutes/hours of recording? People who are about to use it are complete noobs, and I would like to give them a user interface of type start the program, press record, talk for a while, press stop, press save, quit the program. That is, if something like that exists for CentOS (version 5.6, if it matters). If your clips are the computer lesson or software demo style, recordmydesktop is as noob-proof as you can get. Regarding how to shoot talking heads, I'd envision recording a webcam window, probably contrived but feasible. Mixing other recorded material in would be possible too. -- Eduardo Grosclaude Universidad Nacional del Comahue Neuquen, Argentina ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] How to copy a system?
Is there a standard way of copying a working system from one machine to another with different partitions? I have two CentOS-5.6 machines, say A and B, and I thought I would copy / on sdb10 on machine A to an unused partition sda7 on machine B with rsync. I made the appropriate changes to /etc/fstab and grub.conf , as well as /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts , but found that there were innumerable errors when I booted machine B into the new system, mostly to do with creating dev's. Also the ethernet connection, which had been eth1 on A, was now eth0 on B, and this did not work. This was only a kind of experiment. There is a problem with the partition table on machine A, and I thought it would be useful to have a backup machine with exactly the same setup. Is this a hopeless enterprise, or can it be done easily? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to copy a system?
At Thu, 05 May 2011 12:13:18 +0100 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: Is there a standard way of copying a working system from one machine to another with different partitions? I have two CentOS-5.6 machines, say A and B, and I thought I would copy / on sdb10 on machine A to an unused partition sda7 on machine B with rsync. I made the appropriate changes to /etc/fstab and grub.conf , as well as /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts , but found that there were innumerable errors when I booted machine B into the new system, mostly to do with creating dev's. Also the ethernet connection, which had been eth1 on A, was now eth0 on B, and this did not work. It sounds like you have problems *other* the 'copy' part. After copying the system, you will likely need to remake the initrd on the target system. Oh, you will need to edit /etc/modprobe.conf: different SATA driver, different ethernet driver, etc. This was only a kind of experiment. There is a problem with the partition table on machine A, and I thought it would be useful to have a backup machine with exactly the same setup. Is this a hopeless enterprise, or can it be done easily? It is easy enough to do. There are just a few more things involved besides copying the data and diddling with grub.conf, /etc/fatab, and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts. You just forgot about /etc/modprobe.conf and forgot to remake the the initrd. -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 / hel...@deepsoft.com Deepwoods Software-- http://www.deepsoft.com/ () ascii ribbon campaign -- against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org -- against proprietary attachments ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to copy a system?
On 05/05/2011 07:13 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Is there a standard way of copying a working system from one machine to another with different partitions? You could also utilize cloning software, such as the client version of drbl, clonezilla livecd. You could also do a direct copy with dd onto a connected drive. You may be well served by looking into drbl, or clonezilla. -- Respectfully, Martes G Wigglesworth M. G. Wigglesworth Holdings, LLC www.mgwigglesworth.net ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos under (vmware vs KVM)
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 06:04:44AM -0400, Jim Wildman wrote: On Wed, 4 May 2011, carlopmart wrote: On 05/04/2011 10:58 AM, przemol...@poczta.fm wrote: Hello, we are using several centos servers under Vmware. We are having more and more requests for server space for each business application (let assume that these business requests are for different type of services: databases, web apps, application servers etc. I wonder which solution is better: 1. new CentOS under vmware (having several CentOS servers under Vmware) or 2. new CentOS under KVM under existing CentOS (having a few CentOS servers with several KVMs in each) Each approach has some advantages and disadvantages. Can you share your thoughts about it ? What vmware version do you use: server, esxi?? What type of applications do you run under these vms?? How mature is your organization? How big will this get? Why ? I thought about technical comparison of both approaches. Then having it you can see if this particular approach is suitable for you. Regards Przemyslaw Bak (przemol) Najwieksza baza ogloszen motoryzacyjnych! Sprawdz http://linkint.pl/f29ac ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to copy a system?
At Thu, 05 May 2011 07:44:52 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: On 05/05/2011 07:13 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Is there a standard way of copying a working system from one machine to another with different partitions? You could also utilize cloning software, such as the client version of drbl, clonezilla livecd. You could also do a direct copy with dd onto a connected drive. Warning: dd is not a good choise if the source and desination drives/partitions are *different* sizes. You may be well served by looking into drbl, or clonezilla. -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 / hel...@deepsoft.com Deepwoods Software-- http://www.deepsoft.com/ () ascii ribbon campaign -- against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org -- against proprietary attachments ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos under (vmware vs KVM)
On 05/05/2011 01:52 PM, przemol...@poczta.fm wrote: What vmware version do you use: server, esxi?? What type of applications do you run under these vms?? How mature is your organization? How big will this get? Why ? I thought about technical comparison of both approaches. Then having it you can see if this particular approach is suitable for you. Regards Przemyslaw Bak (przemol) Which type of comporasion do you need?? - How many vms supports each one?? - How many nodes can install inside a cluster?? - How many ram can I assign to a vm?? - Hard and soft limits on both platforms??? - What type of storage is supported on both platforms??? .. -- CL Martinez carlopmart {at} gmail {d0t} com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to copy a system?
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: At Thu, 05 May 2011 07:44:52 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: On 05/05/2011 07:13 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Is there a standard way of copying a working system from one machine to another with different partitions? You could also utilize cloning software, such as the client version of drbl, clonezilla livecd. You could also do a direct copy with dd onto a connected drive. Warning: dd is not a good choise if the source and desination drives/partitions are *different* sizes. Different block mappings will also give you grief. .:. The drives must be identical manufacturer and model, down to the firmware revision. dd is not a backup tool in the general sense. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos under (vmware vs KVM)
On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 01:58:04PM +0200, carlopmart wrote: On 05/05/2011 01:52 PM, przemol...@poczta.fm wrote: What vmware version do you use: server, esxi?? What type of applications do you run under these vms?? How mature is your organization? How big will this get? Why ? I thought about technical comparison of both approaches. Then having it you can see if this particular approach is suitable for you. Regards Przemyslaw Bak (przemol) Which type of comporasion do you need?? Well, it seems that Best Practise would be better name for what I am looking for :-) - How many vms supports each one?? I am looking for information like below: - when you use KVM using more KVM VMs then X is not advisable since ... - How many nodes can install inside a cluster?? - How many ram can I assign to a vm?? As many as appliaction need. - Hard and soft limits on both platforms??? - What type of storage is supported on both platforms??? In general when you have many OS-es (CentOS) you face following problems: - how to keep up with package updates ? - how about security - is it easier to manage many CentOS-es or just one with many KVMs ? - how to keep up with application maintenance (mysql, postgresql, apache, dns, etc) ? Which approach would be better/easier ? Regards Przemyslaw Bak (przemol) -- Mamy je -rozwiazania z j.polskiego! http://linkint.pl/f29a8 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos under (vmware vs KVM)
On 05/05/2011 02:24 PM, przemol...@poczta.fm wrote: On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 01:58:04PM +0200, carlopmart wrote: On 05/05/2011 01:52 PM, przemol...@poczta.fm wrote: What vmware version do you use: server, esxi?? What type of applications do you run under these vms?? How mature is your organization? How big will this get? Why ? I thought about technical comparison of both approaches. Then having it you can see if this particular approach is suitable for you. Regards Przemyslaw Bak (przemol) Which type of comporasion do you need?? Well, it seems that Best Practise would be better name for what I am looking for :-) Best practice?? I don't think so ... You need to choose between two different virtualization products. And the principal point here is: your budget and your SLA. - How many vms supports each one?? I am looking for information like below: - when you use KVM using more KVM VMs then X is not advisable since ... - How many nodes can install inside a cluster?? - How many ram can I assign to a vm?? As many as appliaction need. It depends. There isn't a magic formula to accomplish this. - Hard and soft limits on both platforms??? - What type of storage is supported on both platforms??? In general when you have many OS-es (CentOS) you face following problems: - how to keep up with package updates ? Like in physical world... - how about security - is it easier to manage many CentOS-es or just one with many KVMs ? It's the same. But security is another beast You can't control your virtual infrastructure like you do in physical world ... Virtual infrastructures are more vulnerable ... - how to keep up with application maintenance (mysql, postgresql, apache, dns, etc) ? Same as you do in physical world. Which approach would be better/easier ? Between what?? vmware and kvm?? In your case, KVM is the best option if all vms are centos. -- CL Martinez carlopmart {at} gmail {d0t} com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to copy a system?
On 5/5/11 6:13 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Is there a standard way of copying a working system from one machine to another with different partitions? I have two CentOS-5.6 machines, say A and B, and I thought I would copy / on sdb10 on machine A to an unused partition sda7 on machine B with rsync. I made the appropriate changes to /etc/fstab and grub.conf , as well as /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts , but found that there were innumerable errors when I booted machine B into the new system, mostly to do with creating dev's. That's normal. Anaconda does a bit of magic during the install in detecting the hardware and setting things up for it. Within limits, running kudzu will adjust some of them and sometimes it will kick off automatically when hardware differences are detected. Also the ethernet connection, which had been eth1 on A, was now eth0 on B, and this did not work. That will always happen even what you think is identical hardware, but if you are at the machine you can fix it manually. If kudzu runs it will set up the interfaces for dhcp and discard your old settings. This was only a kind of experiment. There is a problem with the partition table on machine A, and I thought it would be useful to have a backup machine with exactly the same setup. Is this a hopeless enterprise, or can it be done easily? Neither. It isn't easy and I think that is a real deficiency in Linux distributions because most people probably think they can have their backups working quickly if their machine dies. But, it also isn't hopeless - you just have to know as much about hardware and drivers as anaconda does. Or you can cheat and do an install on the new machine first and keep at least the initrd or all of /boot and perhaps modprobe.conf and a few other things. In general it is better to plan for a new install and have backups that don't overwrite the system part but there is not a clean separation between system files and you own, so plan to spend a lot of time sorting out things from your backups of /etc and /var and merging them. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Xen Install manager won't let me install anything.
On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 12:45:41AM -0400, Martes G Wigglesworth wrote: Greetings all. I am attempting to install dom-u guests on a vanilla install of Centos 5.6. I am attempting to use the Xen Manager and it 1) won't let me choose ANYTHING but network install, which is quite odd to say the least, and 2) won't let my freebsd install iso complete. I am a novice with Xen, however, it doesn't make sense even in the most minimally supported system that it would default to a more complex install method such as network, or PXE why does the Centos install of Xen Manager installation wizard force you to only choose network install? It sounds like your hardware does not have HVM support, which means you can only run PV VMs. Installation for PV (paravirtualized) VMs is only supported by using netinstall in virt-manager. HVM (fully virtualized) VMs can be installed from ISO image. -- Pasi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to copy a system?
On 05/05/2011 08:01 AM Brunner, Brian T. wrote: centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: At Thu, 05 May 2011 07:44:52 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: On 05/05/2011 07:13 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Is there a standard way of copying a working system from one machine to another with different partitions? You could also utilize cloning software, such as the client version of drbl, clonezilla livecd. You could also do a direct copy with dd onto a connected drive. Warning: dd is not a good choise if the source and desination drives/partitions are *different* sizes. Different block mappings will also give you grief. .:. The drives must be identical manufacturer and model, down to the firmware revision. dd is not a backup tool in the general sense. I had doubts about dd also. But last year, when I needed to upgrade to a larger drive, I used it and it worked fine. I bought a new drive (of course of larger size... different manufacturer too), put it into a drive enclosure, plugged that new drive into my USB port, and ran dd to copy the entirety of hda to hdb. Shutting down the machine, I swapped the hard drives and booted with the new drive and-- viola!-- new bigger drive with everything running just like on the old drive. I didn't have to reconfigure anything; even the networking worked on the new drive without touching anything. The only thing I did on the new drive was to create a new partition from all the extra new hd space I had. Indeed, this is a multi-boot machine and all OSs on it copied over just fine. In addition, all my linux partitions are encrypted, and all that copied over perfectly as well. One tip: Use dd's smallest block size (BS). I did this copy using dd several times, starting with 4k, then 2k block sizes and the new disk had problems when I tried to use it. IIRC, I had to rachet down to 256 to get a working drive. And this took eight or ten hours to copy an 80G drive. Another tip: in your BIOS the parameter for the hard drive should probably be Auto-Detect if your source and destination drives aren't identical. That's generally the default anyway. Final tip (I think): For me, my machine A and machine B were the same machine... so of course the hardware was absolutely identical. Using dd might not work if the hardware on A and B are too different from one another. hth, ken -- Truth is the most valuable thing we have, so I try to conserve it. --Mark Twain ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to copy a system?
On Thursday, May 05, 2011 08:01:57 AM Brunner, Brian T. wrote: centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: At Thu, 05 May 2011 07:44:52 -0400 CentOS mailing list Warning: dd is not a good choise if the source and desination drives/partitions are *different* sizes. Different block mappings will also give you grief. .:. The drives must be identical manufacturer and model, down to the firmware revision. dd is not a backup tool in the general sense. I do dd imaging quite frequently, and as long as everything is LBA48 capable and setup, I don't have problems copying partitions or whole drives between multiple drives of different sizes and manufacturers; even in instances between different interface technologies. This gets better once you're on an OS rev that treats ATA drives as SCSI, and CHS is no longer in play at all, which is the case in EL6 and Fedora revs around EL6. (At least I think that's correct; but it has been an awfully long time since I've done a CentOS 4 or 5 install on an ATA/IDE system, as all of my server systems are either SCSI or FibreChannel, physical or virtual). Having said that, I quarterly rotate two identical drives in this laptop; each quarter, I clone the currently operating drive to the secondary and to a dated whole-disk image file, and then swap the drives, putting the previous primary back into the fire safe for storage. This both wear-levels and tests the backups drives. I use a three-tiered approach to backups of my own laptop: 1.) Quarterly swapping drive clones as described above, using dd (which is faster than the slightly more friendly ddrescue, unless a bad sector is found) booted from rescue or live media of the OS that's installed (this provides a fast bare-metal base recovery that I can then update and restore from the rolling rsync in item 3); 2.) Three quarters of kept images along with the partition mapping (I use GPT, and thus use gdisk for this, which works better in my particular case than parted does (parted puts an inappropriate partition type on one of my partitions when recreating the partition map)) on multiple disks; 3.) Frequent rsyncs of /home and /etc to multiple drives, in rotation. This does mean an SELinux relabel might be required on a restore, but that's ok. For servers I do the same, but with annual images and more rigorous scheduling of tarballs of important files, along with rolling rsyncs (I've looked at rsnapshot, and backing up the backup can be somewhat interesting in that case). Dump/restore has its advantages, too, however. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to copy a system?
At Thu, 05 May 2011 10:10:52 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: On 05/05/2011 08:01 AM Brunner, Brian T. wrote: centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: At Thu, 05 May 2011 07:44:52 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: On 05/05/2011 07:13 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Is there a standard way of copying a working system from one machine to another with different partitions? You could also utilize cloning software, such as the client version of drbl, clonezilla livecd. You could also do a direct copy with dd onto a connected drive. Warning: dd is not a good choise if the source and desination drives/partitions are *different* sizes. Different block mappings will also give you grief. .:. The drives must be identical manufacturer and model, down to the firmware revision. dd is not a backup tool in the general sense. I had doubts about dd also. But last year, when I needed to upgrade to a larger drive, I used it and it worked fine. I bought a new drive (of course of larger size... different manufacturer too), put it into a drive enclosure, plugged that new drive into my USB port, and ran dd to copy the entirety of hda to hdb. Shutting down the machine, I swapped the hard drives and booted with the new drive and-- viola!-- new bigger drive with everything running just like on the old drive. I didn't have to reconfigure anything; even the networking worked on the new drive without touching anything. The only thing I did on the new drive was to create a new partition from all the extra new hd space I had. Indeed, this is a multi-boot machine and all OSs on it copied over just fine. In addition, all my linux partitions are encrypted, and all that copied over perfectly as well. One tip: Use dd's smallest block size (BS). I did this copy using dd several times, starting with 4k, then 2k block sizes and the new disk had problems when I tried to use it. IIRC, I had to rachet down to 256 to get a working drive. And this took eight or ten hours to copy an 80G drive. Hmmm Using dump restore (or tar or rsync or cpio, etc.) would likely be a lot faster. Esp. if the disk is not 100% full. Remember, dd will copy even the unused free blocks (which is a total waste of time). And dump restore will likely use a more optimal block size, which will copy the data faster as well... Another tip: in your BIOS the parameter for the hard drive should probably be Auto-Detect if your source and destination drives aren't identical. That's generally the default anyway. Final tip (I think): For me, my machine A and machine B were the same machine... so of course the hardware was absolutely identical. Using dd might not work if the hardware on A and B are too different from one another. hth, ken -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 / hel...@deepsoft.com Deepwoods Software-- http://www.deepsoft.com/ () ascii ribbon campaign -- against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org -- against proprietary attachments ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to copy a system?
On 5/5/2011 9:37 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: Different block mappings will also give you grief. .:. The drives must be identical manufacturer and model, down to the firmware revision. dd is not a backup tool in the general sense. I do dd imaging quite frequently, and as long as everything is LBA48 capable and setup, I don't have problems copying partitions or whole drives between multiple drives of different sizes and manufacturers; even in instances between different interface technologies. This gets better once you're on an OS rev that treats ATA drives as SCSI, and CHS is no longer in play at all, which is the case in EL6 and Fedora revs around EL6. (At least I think that's correct; but it has been an awfully long time since I've done a CentOS 4 or 5 install on an ATA/IDE system, as all of my server systems are either SCSI or FibreChannel, physical or virtual). Clonezilla-live is a handy, faster way to do this. It boots from cd/usb into a menu and generally uses partclone to do the work so on most filesystems it only copies the blocks that are actually used. It also has a mode to resize the partitions on the new disk but it isn't all that useful because you can't control them individually. Having said that, I quarterly rotate two identical drives in this laptop; each quarter, I clone the currently operating drive to the secondary and to a dated whole-disk image file, and then swap the drives, putting the previous primary back into the fire safe for storage. This both wear-levels and tests the backups drives. Besides disk-disk, clonezilla can save/restore compressed image copies over the network to space mounted via nfs/samba/sshfs so if you are making the copy as a backup or the source for future clones you can drop it on some other filesystem instead of needing a matching disk. I use a three-tiered approach to backups of my own laptop: 1.) Quarterly swapping drive clones as described above, using dd (which is faster than the slightly more friendly ddrescue, unless a bad sector is found) booted from rescue or live media of the OS that's installed (this provides a fast bare-metal base recovery that I can then update and restore from the rolling rsync in item 3); 2.) Three quarters of kept images along with the partition mapping (I use GPT, and thus use gdisk for this, which works better in my particular case than parted does (parted puts an inappropriate partition type on one of my partitions when recreating the partition map)) on multiple disks; 3.) Frequent rsyncs of /home and /etc to multiple drives, in rotation. This does mean an SELinux relabel might be required on a restore, but that's ok. For servers I do the same, but with annual images and more rigorous scheduling of tarballs of important files, along with rolling rsyncs (I've looked at rsnapshot, and backing up the backup can be somewhat interesting in that case). Dump/restore has its advantages, too, however. I always recommend backuppc for scheduled backups. It's pretty much configure and forget and it compresses and pools all identical content so you can keep much more history online than you would expect. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to copy a system?
On 05/05/2011 10:41 AM Robert Heller wrote: At Thu, 05 May 2011 10:10:52 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: On 05/05/2011 08:01 AM Brunner, Brian T. wrote: centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: At Thu, 05 May 2011 07:44:52 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: On 05/05/2011 07:13 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Is there a standard way of copying a working system from one machine to another with different partitions? You could also utilize cloning software, such as the client version of drbl, clonezilla livecd. You could also do a direct copy with dd onto a connected drive. Warning: dd is not a good choise if the source and desination drives/partitions are *different* sizes. Different block mappings will also give you grief. .:. The drives must be identical manufacturer and model, down to the firmware revision. dd is not a backup tool in the general sense. ... Hmmm Using dump restore (or tar or rsync or cpio, etc.) would likely be a lot faster. Esp. if the disk is not 100% full. Remember, dd will copy even the unused free blocks (which is a total waste of time). And dump restore will likely use a more optimal block size, which will copy the data faster as well... Speed is good sometimes. But I was probably either sleeping or watching TV during those eight to ten hours, so the length of time to do the copy didn't matter at all. The most time-consuming part of the job was finding the particular command with the correct args that actually worked-- not the command or utility that should work or that theoretically ought to work-- but one which in fact *did* work. So if anyone actually finds a faster way to clone a system-- meaning they've run the command(s), and done the testing to determine that it was successful-- I'm all ears. The other possibilities are interesting, but given what my schedule is like, unless success with something else is 99.9% assured, I'll probably do it the same way again next time. Hey, what can I say...? I like success. -- Truth is the most valuable thing we have, so I try to conserve it. --Mark Twain ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6.1 beta
Original Message Subject: Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6.1 beta From: Steve Clark scl...@netwolves.commailto:scl...@netwolves.com To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.orgmailto:centos@centos.org Date: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:40:51 AM On 05/02/2011 10:47 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: On 5/2/2011 8:57 AM, Steve Clark wrote: On 05/02/2011 09:38 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: On Monday, May 02, 2011 06:48:37 AM Christopher Chan wrote: biosdevname for nics...bye bye eth0! Not by default, and according to the release notes only for certain Dell servers ATM. But, yes, a different way of looking at NICs is coming down the pipe. It's about time. EGADS Why? After working with FreeBSD for ten years it so nice not to have to worry is this rl0, vr0, em0, fxp0, bge0, ed0, etc in networking scripts. Why would you want to go back to that? The numbers chosen in the eth? scheme are more or less randomized even on identical hardware, so it is pretty much impossible to prepare a disk to ship to a remote site and have it come up working unattended or clone disk images for a large rollout. If this gives predictable names in bios-detection order it will be very useful. Remote-site support is expensive and typically not great at the quirks of Linux distributions that you need to know to do IP assignments. In my experience with Linux over the last 3 years using Centos and RH I have never seen the ethn device numbering change, and it always corresponds to the hardware vendor marking on the units we use. I'm doing platform validation on a SuperMicro X9SCL and on everything except for RHEL 6 the NIC I am connected to is seen as eth0, on RHEL only it is seen as eth1. These kinds of wacky inconsistencies drive people crazy =) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 75, Issue 2
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Re: [CentOS] How to copy a system?
On Thursday, May 05, 2011 11:35:01 AM Les Mikesell wrote: On 5/5/2011 9:37 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: I do dd imaging quite frequently, and as long as everything is LBA48 capable and setup, [snippage] using dd booted from rescue or live media of the OS that's installed... Clonezilla-live is a handy, faster way to do this. I've recast my original message slightly, as you've missed a critical point: I use the cloning tool from the rescue or live media of the OS that's installed. There are a number of reasons for this, not the least of which is that LVM, RAID, and some other things behave differently depending upon the kernel, lvm tools, etc, that's running the clone. I'm familiar with and have used clonezilla numerous times, but not for this purpose. The 'using dd ... booted from rescue or live media of the OS that's installed' part isn't as important during backup as it can be during restore. And I have been bit by that, using F12 (or 13) live media to do a C4 backup/restore; some metadata got farkled and the restore didn't 'take' until I did the restore with C4 media. Also, well, there are uses for manually-marked badblocks other than drive errors :-) [snip] I always recommend backuppc for scheduled backups. It's pretty much configure and forget and it compresses and pools all identical content so you can keep much more history online than you would expect. I've actually thought about using DragonFly BSD and its HAMMER filesystem for the backup storage device.. quick restores rely on quickly finding what is needed, and many times I get requests like 'please restore the file that has the stuff about the instrument we built for grant so-and-so' rather than an exact filename; greppability of the backup set is a must for us. Complete, straight-dd, clones are mountable (RO, of course) and searchable, and rolling rsyncs and tarballs are searchable without a whole lot of effort. Deduplication would be nice, but it's secondary, as is the time and space spent on the backup, for our purposes. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to copy a system?
--On Thursday, May 05, 2011 10:41:04 AM -0400 Robert Heller hel...@deepsoft.com wrote: Hmmm Using dump restore (or tar or rsync or cpio, etc.) would likely be a lot faster. +1 for dump restore. It's been around for years, is lightweight (in terms of minimal dependencies), and is absolutely solid. I've had good success in moving dump images to new hardware as long as your hardware is similar (ie: not mixing Intel/AMD), and those aren't problems with dump/restore but rather the OS that you're copying. For a straight clone, the recovery steps would generally be: - partition your new drive and create the new filesystems - use restore to extract your data - reinitialize your boot blocks (MBR or whatever) - boot the system I don't know of any UNIX that doesn't ship with it (although there are variations among the UNIX flavours). The assumption is that your're backing up on a per-filesystem basis, as file exclusion for dump is rudimentary. With file-based copy schemes like tar, rsync, cpio, etc, you have better control for file exclusions, but you need to make sure you're paying attention to how you handle symlinks, hard links and other unusual file setups. No opinion on clonezilla. Devin ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to copy a system?
On 5/5/2011 11:11 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: I do dd imaging quite frequently, and as long as everything is LBA48 capable and setup, [snippage] using dd booted from rescue or live media of the OS that's installed... Clonezilla-live is a handy, faster way to do this. I've recast my original message slightly, as you've missed a critical point: I use the cloning tool from the rescue or live media of the OS that's installed. There are a number of reasons for this, not the least of which is that LVM, RAID, and some other things behave differently depending upon the kernel, lvm tools, etc, that's running the clone. I generally try to avoid layers that are likely to have breakage between different versions. Backwards compatibility is a good thing, as is the ability to move disks around among different hosts. That said, Clonezilla doesn't deal with software raid in the disk image mode - even raid1 where it should be simple. You can do single partitions at a time though, and then it is agnostic about the underlying layers but you have to deal with making it bootable yourself. I'm familiar with and have used clonezilla numerous times, but not for this purpose. The 'using dd ... booted from rescue or live media of the OS that's installed' part isn't as important during backup as it can be during restore. And I have been bit by that, using F12 (or 13) live media to do a C4 backup/restore; some metadata got farkled and the restore didn't 'take' until I did the restore with C4 media. Yeah, I avoid fedora too... But, how would you deal with a dual-boot disk with different OS's on the same drive? [snip] I always recommend backuppc for scheduled backups. It's pretty much configure and forget and it compresses and pools all identical content so you can keep much more history online than you would expect. I've actually thought about using DragonFly BSD and its HAMMER filesystem for the backup storage device.. quick restores rely on quickly finding what is needed, and many times I get requests like 'please restore the file that has the stuff about the instrument we built for grant so-and-so' rather than an exact filename; greppability of the backup set is a must for us. Complete, straight-dd, clones are mountable (RO, of course) and searchable, and rolling rsyncs and tarballs are searchable without a whole lot of effort. Deduplication would be nice, but it's secondary, as is the time and space spent on the backup, for our purposes. With backuppc, just give them a login to the web side with access to their own machine and let them pick any/all versions they want (you can download through the browser or restore it back where it came from). If you really need to manage versioning based on content/differences/context the stuff should live in subversion or git with an associated status tracking system. But then you have the opposite problem of how to get rid of it when you really don't need it any more... -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] KVM migration and time
Hi all, I have two Cent5.6 systems running KVM in a clustered configuration with Cent5.6 guests. Ntpd is running on both hosts and all guests. When the guest is booted onto either of the hosts, time stays synced. When I do a live migration to the other host, the time on the guest starts going haywire, fast-forwarding into the future at a steady rate. After digging around, this may be related to: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513138 Can anyone tell me if there's a correct combination of guest kernel parameters and/or host settings that will fix this? Thanks in advance. ...adam ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6.1 beta
Because they are the same model. Use several model of NIC's together and see what happens. I do not have personal experience with CentOS, but I have seen different X86-PC MB's on embedded units/routers recognizing LAN and Wireless NIC's differently ones from PCI1 to PCI5, others from PCI5 to PCI1, one MB even without any order at all. I had now Monitor so I had to power the unit, guess NIC to connect to, login and see what was recognized in what order. Ljubomir Drew Weaver wrote: Original Message Subject: Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6.1 beta From: Steve Clark scl...@netwolves.com mailto:scl...@netwolves.com To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org mailto:centos@centos.org Date: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:40:51 AM On 05/02/2011 10:47 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: On 5/2/2011 8:57 AM, Steve Clark wrote: On 05/02/2011 09:38 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: On Monday, May 02, 2011 06:48:37 AM Christopher Chan wrote: biosdevname for nics...bye bye eth0! Not by default, and according to the release notes only for certain Dell servers ATM. But, yes, a different way of looking at NICs is coming down the pipe. It's about time. EGADS Why? After working with FreeBSD for ten years it so nice not to have to worry is this rl0, vr0, em0, fxp0, bge0, ed0, etc in networking scripts. Why would you want to go back to that? The numbers chosen in the eth? scheme are more or less randomized even on identical hardware, so it is pretty much impossible to prepare a disk to ship to a remote site and have it come up working unattended or clone disk images for a large rollout. If this gives predictable names in bios-detection order it will be very useful. Remote-site support is expensive and typically not great at the quirks of Linux distributions that you need to know to do IP assignments. In my experience with Linux over the last 3 years using Centos and RH I have never seen the ethn device numbering change, and it always corresponds to the hardware vendor marking on the units we use. I'm doing platform validation on a SuperMicro X9SCL and on everything except for RHEL 6 the NIC I am connected to is seen as eth0, on RHEL only it is seen as eth1. These kinds of wacky inconsistencies drive people crazy =) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] apache docroot permissions
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Gordon Messmer yiny...@eburg.com wrote: On 05/04/2011 12:49 PM, Johan Martinez wrote: Thanks for the suggestions Richard and Kenneth. I installed drupal here and it requires user running apache to have write access on filesystem. Otherwise it complains: 'The directory sites/default/files is not writable'. The content editors/developers need write access to theme/pictures folders. So it seems like I can't avoid giving write access to apache user. Any hacks or tips here? Tip 1: Your files and directories can have different permissions. Rather than your original setup, try: chown -R apache:contenteditors /var/www/html find /var/www/html -type f -exec chmod 0464 {} + find /var/www/html -type d -exec chmod 2575 {} + or: chown -R apache:apache /var/www/html find /var/www/html -type f -exec setfacl -m g:contenteditors:rw {} + find /var/www/html -type d -exec setfacl -m g:contenteditors:rwx {} + Tip 2: Don't install drupal in /var/www/html. Generally, /var/www/html should be used only for static content. Web applications should be installed outside the document root to prevent a misconfiguration from allowing remote clients from downloading files that might contain configurations, passwords, or other sensitive information. See the rpm packaged drupal for an example of how this is done. Tip 3: If your application says that it needs write access to sites/default/files, then add write access only for that directory. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I am using following config for now. * Moved drupal install outside document root and used alias for the namespace mapping. * Filesystem ownership: apache:contenteditors * Filesystem permissions: u=rx, g=rwx, group with sticky bit set. Exception of 'sites/default/files' on which apache has write permissions. jM ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to copy a system?
On Thu, 5 May 2011, Les Mikesell wrote: On 5/5/2011 11:11 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: I do dd imaging quite frequently, and as long as everything is LBA48 capable and setup, [snippage] using dd booted from rescue or live media of the OS that's installed... Clonezilla-live is a handy, faster way to do this. I've recast my original message slightly, as you've missed a critical point: I use the cloning tool from the rescue or live media of the OS that's installed. There are a number of reasons for this, not the least of which is that LVM, RAID, and some other things behave differently depending upon the kernel, lvm tools, etc, that's running the clone. I generally try to avoid layers that are likely to have breakage between different versions. Backwards compatibility is a good thing, as is the ability to move disks around among different hosts. That said, Clonezilla doesn't deal with software raid in the disk image mode - even raid1 where it should be simple. You can do single partitions at a time though, and then it is agnostic about the underlying layers but you have to deal with making it bootable yourself. I can recommend ReaR (Relax and Recover) for migrations and cloning systems. I have been working wit the Relax and Recover project for the past few months together with a colleague and it now covers a lot of situations: - HWRAID (SmartArray), SWRAID, DRBD, partitions, encrypted partitions, LVM - It supports bootable tapes (OBDR), ISO images and USB media - It supports backup software for restoring (like Bacula, TSM, rsync and others) - And it can also take care of backups (using rsync, tar) using different solutions (NFS, USB, Samba, ...) - It's modular, so with little effort you can implement your own workflow or use-case However I would stress to test a complete disaster recover scenario for your systems (different technologies) in order to understand if everything is supported. You don't want to realize a problem in disaster-mode :) But for the use-cases we have, the current trunk is very usable and flexible to support restoring on different hardware. Even with different controllers/disks etc... During recovery you can still adapt the layout and make changes to your wishes before restoring. We are preparing a new stable minor release (without the new layout code enabled by default), but after that release there should be a new major release covering everything I mentioned by default. If you need more help, feel free to join the ReaR mailinglist on sourceforge and ask your questions :) http://rear.sourceforge.net/ And if you happen to go to LinuxTag, we're having two discussion sessions for developers and users on Wednesday and Thursday. -- -- dag wieers, d...@wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- dagit linux solutions, i...@dagit.net, http://dagit.net/ [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] centos friends?
Hello All, I want to ask about CentOS and money. Please do not start some kind of shitstorm over this, it isn't productive. I have just been looking at archive.org to see when the paypal option went missing from the donate menu at centos.org. I can't pin it down, but it was there on October 16, 2010 and isn't now, so that's the information I have on that point. There was a great deal of argy-bargy on this list when the 5.6 update was slow arriving. I don't want to go there, I was happy to see it when it arrived, as I always am when there's an update. The impression I got was that the maintainers and packagers were working as hard as they could and were tetchy about being nagged, being unable to do more. Fair enough, but we need not adopt the status quo entirely. The donate menu on the web site has this to say, (and more) ... The CentOS team would like to remind you that the primary means of substaining the development of CentOS is via contributions by CentOS users. CentOS is now, and will continue to be totally free; however, it takes money and resources to make CentOS available. If you are able, please consider donating to the CentOS Project. Donations of promo material, public mirrors and dedicated servers are all vital to our contined operations. Monetary CentOS is currently reviewing our cash donation program. In the mean time we are not accepting any financial donations. We do appreciate though, if you want to - for example - help out with promo material. See our Wiki page on donations for more up to date information. So referring as directed to the wiki page shows: Resource and financial needs The CentOS Project is entirely based on the efforts of volunteers. We rely on contributions and donations from CentOS users as well, for: * Logistics related to promotion and infrastructure * Specific hardware needs * Bandwidth and connectivity * Promotion material at conferences and exhibitions * Organizing CentOS-related events I don't see anything there about money except in the first line and I'm really curious why. Internally it is clear that if the team hasn't put in place some cash donation basis probably the capacity isn't there. But the current team need not go into areas where they have no time or (perhaps) expertise. There are lots of capable money folks in the free software world who can and do accept donations and deal with administrative infrastructure and channel support to projects. So the name apache-friends is suggestive. Without necessarily using that model I wonder why there isn't a CentOS Friends group or fund to which I and others can donate. I can't help but believe that if there were, say, a couple of paid staff with CentOS as the day job, things would not be so burdensome to the devs we have now and maybe we could build on that. For my part, I installed CentOS on some machines I administer for non-profit groups in Canada. The lack of licencing fees makes a big difference to them, non-profits groups are perpetuually long on brains and short on cash. But even so I think we could cough up, say, ten bucks a year per machine to put some payback into CentOS. Given general widespread goodwill this might be multiplied significantly. I have not seen this discussed on the list and would be happy to know if there is some reason it hasn't been attempted. Please let me repeat, this is meant as a constructive suggestion, there is no problem with the product, quite the reverse. Comments? Dave -- Let us think the unthinkable, let us do the undoable, let us prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all. Douglas Adams in one of the Hitchiker novels... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Xen Install manager won't let me install anything.
On 05/05/2011 09:09 AM, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: It sounds like your hardware does not have HVM support, which means you can only run PV VMs. Thanks for the reply. You are correct. I have two P4 32-bit machines that I just picked up and wanted to use them for testing until I can afford to upgrade to the 12-core MB/Processors that I bought these 2u chassis into which I plan to install. I have never used xen, and it just seems kind of odd that you cannot simply install from the hard drive, like on virtualbox. Anyhow, I could only figure that was the outlying factor. I could not locate that aspect of the virt-manager docs, so I will check again. Anyhow, now I am fighting with SL-Linux's installation media for i386, having the ability to be seen, and booted, but inside their own boot menue, it forces you to re-verify that you have install media. (Even though it is running from the media in the first place. Then Xen magically can't see the iso that SL linux is running from.) Are there any good (I guess dated, now that everything is mulit-core) docs on how to work with paravirtualization, since I have to deal with this weird network install setup? It seems that I can put in the explicit path to the local-disk-installed ISO image, but the second it boots, nothing can be found, and it asks me to put in a url, etc... I know this sounds incoherent, but I am burnt out from exams. Installation for PV (paravirtualized) VMs is only supported by using netinstall in virt-manager. HVM (fully virtualized) VMs can be installed from ISO image. Thanks for the input, and would appreciate any further direction on reading further on real-world installs, not the docs where they assume you have a quad 12-core processor super server so everything thing just works in virtualmode... ) I guess this is more for virt-manager, but I think you will understand what I mean if you check the doc site for virt manager. They don't even mention that there is a limitation such as what you have described, except to say there is a limitation. Sorry for the ramble. Need more RedBull, or maybe not so much Lol.. -- Respectfully, Martes G Wigglesworth M. G. Wigglesworth Holdings, LLC www.mgwigglesworth.net ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to copy a system?
On 5/5/2011 3:37 PM, Dag Wieers wrote: I can recommend ReaR (Relax and Recover) for migrations and cloning systems. I have been working wit the Relax and Recover project for the past few months together with a colleague and it now covers a lot of situations: - HWRAID (SmartArray), SWRAID, DRBD, partitions, encrypted partitions, LVM - It supports bootable tapes (OBDR), ISO images and USB media - It supports backup software for restoring (like Bacula, TSM, rsync and others) - And it can also take care of backups (using rsync, tar) using different solutions (NFS, USB, Samba, ...) - It's modular, so with little effort you can implement your own workflow or use-case What I've really always wanted in this respect is something that would work with backuppc such that you could run something on the source to generate descriptions of the partitions and filesystems (sort of clonezilla-like) in files that would be included in backups, and have a bootable restore OS that would know how to get this info from the backuppc server (could be an http request), build the matching filesystems, then run the ssh command to generate a tar image and extract into the right place. Backuppc already does a great job of managing file-level backups but it is somewhat cumbersome to re-install by hand on bare metal and it doesn't automatically keep a description of the layout. However I would stress to test a complete disaster recover scenario for your systems (different technologies) in order to understand if everything is supported. You don't want to realize a problem in disaster-mode :) I already trust backuppc on the 'save a copy' side. I'd rather not replace that part. If you need more help, feel free to join the ReaR mailinglist on sourceforge and ask your questions :) Would a backuppc adapter be feasible? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] centos friends?
on 5/5/2011 1:55 PM Dave Stevens spake the following: Hello All, I want to ask about CentOS and money. Please do not start some kind of shitstorm over this, it isn't productive. I have just been looking at archive.org to see when the paypal option went missing from the donate menu at centos.org. I can't pin it down, but it was there on October 16, 2010 and isn't now, so that's the information I have on that point. There was a great deal of argy-bargy on this list when the 5.6 update was slow arriving. I don't want to go there, I was happy to see it when it arrived, as I always am when there's an update. The impression I got was that the maintainers and packagers were working as hard as they could and were tetchy about being nagged, being unable to do more. Fair enough, but we need not adopt the status quo entirely. The donate menu on the web site has this to say, (and more) ... The CentOS team would like to remind you that the primary means of substaining the development of CentOS is via contributions by CentOS users. CentOS is now, and will continue to be totally free; however, it takes money and resources to make CentOS available. If you are able, please consider donating to the CentOS Project. Donations of promo material, public mirrors and dedicated servers are all vital to our contined operations. Monetary CentOS is currently reviewing our cash donation program. In the mean time we are not accepting any financial donations. We do appreciate though, if you want to - for example - help out with promo material. See our Wiki page on donations for more up to date information. So referring as directed to the wiki page shows: Resource and financial needs The CentOS Project is entirely based on the efforts of volunteers. We rely on contributions and donations from CentOS users as well, for: * Logistics related to promotion and infrastructure * Specific hardware needs * Bandwidth and connectivity * Promotion material at conferences and exhibitions * Organizing CentOS-related events I don't see anything there about money except in the first line and I'm really curious why. Internally it is clear that if the team hasn't put in place some cash donation basis probably the capacity isn't there. But the current team need not go into areas where they have no time or (perhaps) expertise. There are lots of capable money folks in the free software world who can and do accept donations and deal with administrative infrastructure and channel support to projects. So the name apache-friends is suggestive. Without necessarily using that model I wonder why there isn't a CentOS Friends group or fund to which I and others can donate. I can't help but believe that if there were, say, a couple of paid staff with CentOS as the day job, things would not be so burdensome to the devs we have now and maybe we could build on that. For my part, I installed CentOS on some machines I administer for non-profit groups in Canada. The lack of licencing fees makes a big difference to them, non-profits groups are perpetuually long on brains and short on cash. But even so I think we could cough up, say, ten bucks a year per machine to put some payback into CentOS. Given general widespread goodwill this might be multiplied significantly. I have not seen this discussed on the list and would be happy to know if there is some reason it hasn't been attempted. Please let me repeat, this is meant as a constructive suggestion, there is no problem with the product, quite the reverse. Comments? Dave Here is a bit of why the donation button went away (It was back in 2009 or so)... http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10300222-92.html http://www.osnews.com/comments/21921 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to copy a system?
On Thu, 5 May 2011, Les Mikesell wrote: On 5/5/2011 3:37 PM, Dag Wieers wrote: I can recommend ReaR (Relax and Recover) for migrations and cloning systems. I have been working wit the Relax and Recover project for the past few months together with a colleague and it now covers a lot of situations: - HWRAID (SmartArray), SWRAID, DRBD, partitions, encrypted partitions, LVM - It supports bootable tapes (OBDR), ISO images and USB media - It supports backup software for restoring (like Bacula, TSM, rsync and others) - And it can also take care of backups (using rsync, tar) using different solutions (NFS, USB, Samba, ...) - It's modular, so with little effort you can implement your own workflow or use-case What I've really always wanted in this respect is something that would work with backuppc such that you could run something on the source to generate descriptions of the partitions and filesystems (sort of clonezilla-like) in files that would be included in backups, and have a bootable restore OS that would know how to get this info from the backuppc server (could be an http request), build the matching filesystems, then run the ssh command to generate a tar image and extract into the right place. Backuppc already does a great job of managing file-level backups but it is somewhat cumbersome to re-install by hand on bare metal and it doesn't automatically keep a description of the layout. Well, I've become very fond of rbme as of lately, but since ReaR supports rsync out of the box, you don't need a separate backup method for it. But if backuppc has a client, or a configuration, it's very easy to make ReaR aware of it. And then to only configuration you would need to do is: BACKUP=BACKUPPC and it would automatically create a bootable image with your system's layout and the backuppc software/configuration, and even the necessary commands to automatically recover your system when doing: rear recover on the rescue prompt. That's how it is done with Bacula, TSM, and others. However I would stress to test a complete disaster recover scenario for your systems (different technologies) in order to understand if everything is supported. You don't want to realize a problem in disaster-mode :) I already trust backuppc on the 'save a copy' side. I'd rather not replace that part. Does backuppc take care of restoring HWRAID, SWRAID, DRBD, LVM, paritions, filesystems ? If so, then ReaR may not be for you, because ReaR takes care of those items. If you need more help, feel free to join the ReaR mailinglist on sourceforge and ask your questions :) Would a backuppc adapter be feasible? Definitely, join the list and we can help you implement it. -- -- dag wieers, d...@wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- dagit linux solutions, i...@dagit.net, http://dagit.net/ [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] centos friends?
Scott Silva wrote on 05/05/2011 05:03 PM: Here is a bit of why the donation button went away (It was back in 2009 or so)... Old news, that does not explain why monetary donations are still not being accepted. Phil P.S. I do wish people would trim their quotes. :-) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to copy a system?
On 5/5/2011 4:22 PM, Dag Wieers wrote: What I've really always wanted in this respect is something that would work with backuppc [...] Well, I've become very fond of rbme as of lately, but since ReaR supports rsync out of the box, you don't need a separate backup method for it. But if backuppc has a client, or a configuration, it's very easy to make ReaR aware of it. And then to only configuration you would need to do is: BACKUP=BACKUPPC Backuppc usually doesn't need anything on the client side. The server can run rsync or tar over ssh or use smb or talk to rsync in daemon mode. It's basically a couple of perl programs to do the scheduling and provide a web interface wrapped around standard tools. But, if you haven't used it, the thing it does better than any of the similar programs is that it compresses the files and pools all duplicate content with hardlinks so you can keep a much longer history of more hosts online than you would expect. It has an rsync-in-perl implementation to deal with local compressed files while chatting with a stock remote version. And it has a nice web interface to browse/restore files. Or you can use a command line tool to generate a tar image. and it would automatically create a bootable image with your system's layout and the backuppc software/configuration, and even the necessary commands to automatically recover your system when doing: I don't really want a separate copy of an 'image' built. I want something to do the grunge work of partitioning and creating the necessary filesystems, then pull the tar image from the backuppc server with an appropriate ssh command. rear recover on the rescue prompt. That's how it is done with Bacula, TSM, and others. You could probably do something very similar by generating the tar image(s) ahead of time from the backuppc server and storing them in your recovery setup. And that would be useful for archiving, offsite, or cloning purposes, but the main thing I want is the ability to boot something that can mindlessly reconstruct a machine from last night's backuppc run straight out of that compressed/pooled storage. I already trust backuppc on the 'save a copy' side. I'd rather not replace that part. Does backuppc take care of restoring HWRAID, SWRAID, DRBD, LVM, paritions, filesystems ? If so, then ReaR may not be for you, because ReaR takes care of those items. No, backuppc just saves files and can give you what looks like a tar image (or put them back if the target is working well enough to accept them). That's why I'm interested in something else to do the work up to where you would restore a tar backup. It's not extremely difficult to do by hand from a livecd boot, but automation is always better. Backuppc does handle the more common case of someone wanting a few files back that they accidentally erased very nicely and I don't want to do a whole different backup to cover rebuilding the machine. If you need more help, feel free to join the ReaR mailinglist on sourceforge and ask your questions :) Would a backuppc adapter be feasible? Definitely, join the list and we can help you implement it. OK, I'm interested... It's probably just a matter of generating whatever description of the underlying storage it needs and plugging in an ssh command to get the data at the right point. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] centos friends?
On 05/05/2011 10:51 PM, Phil Schaffner wrote: Scott Silva wrote on 05/05/2011 05:03 PM: Here is a bit of why the donation button went away (It was back in 2009 or so)... Old news, that does not explain why monetary donations are still not being accepted. One of the tasks on the table for this summer is to setup a mechanism to accept financial donations / contributions from people. If you want to contribute towards specific people's efforts - I am sure most of the guys have amazon wish lists etc in place. - KB ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] centos friends?
On Thursday, May 05, 2011 04:04:06 PM Karanbir Singh wrote: On 05/05/2011 10:51 PM, Phil Schaffner wrote: Scott Silva wrote on 05/05/2011 05:03 PM: Here is a bit of why the donation button went away (It was back in 2009 or so)... Old news, that does not explain why monetary donations are still not being accepted. One of the tasks on the table for this summer is to setup a mechanism to accept financial donations / contributions from people. If you want to contribute towards specific people's efforts - I am sure most of the guys have amazon wish lists etc in place. - KB Thank you. How can I find out who the guys are? Dave ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Let us think the unthinkable, let us do the undoable, let us prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all. Douglas Adams in one of the Hitchiker novels... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] USB-Parallel cable compatibility
I have an installation where we're replacing a rather old Linux box with a new one that has no parallel ports. The old box has two parallel ports going to Okidata printers. The IOGEAR GUC1284B USB to Parallel Adapter cable looks like it might be a simple solution to this, but I would like to know that it works before getting a couple. Comments? Bill -- INTERNET: b...@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax:(206) 232-9186 Skype: jwccsllc (206) 855-5792 the incurable idiots may conceivably constitute an absolute majority of the population. -- H.L. Mencken ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] USB-Parallel cable compatibility
Bill Campbell wrote: I have an installation where we're replacing a rather old Linux box with a new one that has no parallel ports. The old box has two parallel ports going to Okidata printers. The IOGEAR GUC1284B USB to Parallel Adapter cable looks like it might be a simple solution to this, but I would like to know that it works before getting a couple. Comments? Bill I would generally recomend agains USB to Paralell CABLEs. Better find nice Parallel PCI/PCIe card and enjoy. Ljubomir ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] RHEL 6.1 beta
On Thu, 5 May 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: I do not have personal experience with CentOS, but I have seen different X86-PC MB's on embedded units/routers recognizing LAN and Wireless NIC's differently ones from PCI1 to PCI5, others from PCI5 to PCI1, one MB even without any order at all. I had now Monitor so I had to power the unit, guess NIC to connect to, login and see what was recognized in what order. Built from the sources that will become a CentOS 6 series, there is a more mature udev implementation, which tracks MAC addresses, and assigns them 'durably' to persist at a given device name. Debian testing supports a similar approach, but with more manual intervention I'll try to blog about it, but once one knows the 'secret' it is not all that hard to predict -- This unit has three NICs (two onboard of the same type and an addon) which do NOT 'wander around' through reboots [root@hostname rules.d]# pwd /etc/udev/rules.d [root@hostname rules.d]# cat 70-persistent-net.rules # This file was automatically generated by the /lib/udev/write_net_rules # program, run by the persistent-net-generator.rules rules file. # # You can modify it, as long as you keep each rule on a single # line, and change only the value of the NAME= key. # PCI device 0x8086:0x1229 (e100) SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*, ATTR{address}==00:90:27:a0:fe:bf, ATTR{type}==1, KERNEL==eth*, NAME=eth2 # PCI device 0x14e4:0x1648 (tg3) SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*, ATTR{address}==00:e0:81:31:23:8f, ATTR{type}==1, KERNEL==eth*, NAME=eth1 # PCI device 0x14e4:0x1648 (tg3) SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*, ATTR{address}==00:e0:81:31:23:8e, ATTR{type}==1, KERNEL==eth*, NAME=eth0 [root@hostname rules.d]# -- [root@hostname network-scripts]# pwd /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts [root@hostname network-scripts]# cat ifcfg-eth0 # Please read /usr/share/doc/initscripts-*/sysconfig.txt # for the documentation of these parameters. GATEWAY=198.49.bb.cc DEVICE=eth0 BOOTPROTO=none NETMASK=255.255.255.0 TYPE=Ethernet HWADDR=00:e0:81:31:23:8e IPADDR=198.49.bb.dd [root@hostname network-scripts]# [root@hostname network-scripts]# uname -a Linux hostname_elided 2.6.32-71.24.1.el6.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Apr 8 21:14:02 CDT 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux -- Russ herrold ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6.1 beta
On 5/5/11 11:34 PM, R P Herrold wrote: On Thu, 5 May 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: I do not have personal experience with CentOS, but I have seen different X86-PC MB's on embedded units/routers recognizing LAN and Wireless NIC's differently ones from PCI1 to PCI5, others from PCI5 to PCI1, one MB even without any order at all. I had now Monitor so I had to power the unit, guess NIC to connect to, login and see what was recognized in what order. Built from the sources that will become a CentOS 6 series, there is a more mature udev implementation, which tracks MAC addresses, and assigns them 'durably' to persist at a given device name. Debian testing supports a similar approach, but with more manual intervention I'll try to blog about it, but once one knows the 'secret' it is not all that hard to predict -- This unit has three NICs (two onboard of the same type and an addon) which do NOT 'wander around' through reboots But can you swap the disk into a new chassis of identical hardware and have it come up with the right subnets on the NICs in the corresponding physical positions? Without knowing MAC addresses ahead of time? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos