Re: [CentOS-docs] Skype on CentOS 6
Yves Bellefeuille wrote on 08/10/2011 09:30 PM: Hi: I've finished the changes about installing Skype on CentOS 6. Thanks. (Except that I still think that this information should be moved in the list of HowTos from section 17, Misc., to section 18, Non CentOS Applications.) Yves, I think you made substantial changes since the start of a forum thread on Skype on CentOS-6, but please have a look at the links in the following post to see if there's anything helpful. https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=140143topic_id=32642forum=56#forumpost140143 Thanks, Phil ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/JavaRuntimeEnvironment
Hi all According to a report made in #centos, the procedure described at http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2010/install-sun-oracle-java-jdk-jre-7-on-fedora-centos-red-hat-rhel/ works OK for jdk 1.7 It looks pretty similar to http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/JavaRuntimeEnvironment so I updated our page to reflect the fact the jre-1.7 can be installed using the procedure already described in the wiki. Any objections on including jdk ( and maybe replacing the links to the binary packages with http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html. so that the user can choose between 1.6/1.7 jre/jdk )? ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-es] Ftp limitado a 250KB/s con proftpd y CentOS6
Buenos días. He reutilizado un viejo servidor HP DL360 G3 para montar un servidor de backups centralizado con CentOS6. La LAN está a 1Gb He instalado el S.Op y como servidor FTP el ProFTPD. Ya he redireccionado los scripts de backup de las copias seguridad de los otros servidores y funciona ok, excepto que solo levanta las transferencias a 250KB/s según el gadmin-proftpd y bwm. Si hay una transferencia da 250KB/s y si hay más transferencias simultáneas, da 250KB/s por transferencia. He revisado los ajustes del Proftpd y no encuentro ningún parámetro que limite el ancho de banda de las conexiones. ¿Habéis tenido algún problema similar? Un saludo. ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] APACHE y TOMCAT
Buenas Tardes Lista tengo una consulta .. yo ya tengo instalado el apache y el tomcat respectivamente funcionando en los puerto 80 y 8081 pero quiero que cuando ponga un sub-dominio valla directamente a la aplicación que esta en el tomcat mostrando siempre el subdominio todo esto bajo CentOS 5.6.SaludosDiego Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 08:43:33 +0200 From: amano...@sabeco.es To: centos-es@centos.org Subject: [CentOS-es] Ftp limitado a 250KB/s con proftpd y CentOS6 Buenos días. He reutilizado un viejo servidor HP DL360 G3 para montar un servidor de backups centralizado con CentOS6. La LAN está a 1Gb He instalado el S.Op y como servidor FTP el ProFTPD. Ya he redireccionado los scripts de backup de las copias seguridad de los otros servidores y funciona ok, excepto que solo levanta las transferencias a 250KB/s según el gadmin-proftpd y bwm. Si hay una transferencia da 250KB/s y si hay más transferencias simultáneas, da 250KB/s por transferencia. He revisado los ajustes del Proftpd y no encuentro ningún parámetro que limite el ancho de banda de las conexiones. ¿Habéis tenido algún problema similar? Un saludo. ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Ftp limitado a 250KB/s con proftpd y CentOS6
Hola Has mirado que no tengas TransferRate en proftpd.conf? (Yo uso pureftpd, así que no se, pero quizá poniendole algo si no lo tiene) Supongo que has confirmado que no es una limitación del cliente o incluso de la red (QoS). Para hacer copias de otros servidores (si son Linux también), por que no usas algo como rsync, rsync-backup, backupppc o backupninja? Saludos Antonio Manogué Saiz escribió: Buenos días. He reutilizado un viejo servidor HP DL360 G3 para montar un servidor de backups centralizado con CentOS6. La LAN está a 1Gb He instalado el S.Op y como servidor FTP el ProFTPD. Ya he redireccionado los scripts de backup de las copias seguridad de los otros servidores y funciona ok, excepto que solo levanta las transferencias a 250KB/s según el gadmin-proftpd y bwm. Si hay una transferencia da 250KB/s y si hay más transferencias simultáneas, da 250KB/s por transferencia. He revisado los ajustes del Proftpd y no encuentro ningún parámetro que limite el ancho de banda de las conexiones. ¿Habéis tenido algún problema similar? Un saludo. ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Scanned with Copfilter Version 0.84beta3a (ProxSMTP 1.6) AntiVirus: ClamAV 0.95.2/13427 - Thu Aug 11 01:31:52 2011 by Markus Madlener @ http://www.copfilter.org ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Ftp limitado a 250KB/s con proftpd y CentOS6
Hola, pues con proftpd no me ha pasado nunca. Y no puede ser que tengas algun firewall que limite el ancho de banda a modo qos ? No puedo decir mas. Salutaciones :) 2011/8/11 José María Terry Jiménez j...@tssystems.net Hola Has mirado que no tengas TransferRate en proftpd.conf? (Yo uso pureftpd, así que no se, pero quizá poniendole algo si no lo tiene) Supongo que has confirmado que no es una limitación del cliente o incluso de la red (QoS). Para hacer copias de otros servidores (si son Linux también), por que no usas algo como rsync, rsync-backup, backupppc o backupninja? Saludos Antonio Manogué Saiz escribió: Buenos días. He reutilizado un viejo servidor HP DL360 G3 para montar un servidor de backups centralizado con CentOS6. La LAN está a 1Gb He instalado el S.Op y como servidor FTP el ProFTPD. Ya he redireccionado los scripts de backup de las copias seguridad de los otros servidores y funciona ok, excepto que solo levanta las transferencias a 250KB/s según el gadmin-proftpd y bwm. Si hay una transferencia da 250KB/s y si hay más transferencias simultáneas, da 250KB/s por transferencia. He revisado los ajustes del Proftpd y no encuentro ningún parámetro que limite el ancho de banda de las conexiones. ¿Habéis tenido algún problema similar? Un saludo. ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Scanned with Copfilter Version 0.84beta3a (ProxSMTP 1.6) AntiVirus: ClamAV 0.95.2/13427 - Thu Aug 11 01:31:52 2011 by Markus Madlener @ http://www.copfilter.org ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es -- _ Pere Casas pcasas.p...@gmail.com ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Problemas en la tarjeta wifi en un netbook ...
El día 11 de agosto de 2011 14:34, Alberto Rivera M. rivera.albe...@gmail.com escribió: El 09/08/11 00:26, Javier escribió: Hola, quizas en un kernel mas nuevo, como los que vienen con Fedora, estan los modulos para esa placa. Tambien podes probar actualizando con los que estan en los repo de centos-plus y sino de ultima, siempre esta el bendito ndiswrapper, que me salvo mas de 100 veces con las placas pedorras de noganet... Saludos Javier Basisty vale gracias pero incluso con la versión 6 del centos no aparece ... Hola, ahora el kernel de centos 6 es 2.9.32, si no me equivoco, es un fedora 12, debería reconocerte la mayoría de hardware, con centos 6 sobre todo, pero yo recomiendo que si van a usar portátiles primero pasarle el live cd si reconoce todo instalar, si no reconoce todo como la wifi no instalar, para portátiles que no estan soportadas yo recomiendo fedora, ubuntu o suse, no hay otra, pero de todas maneras visita la wiki de centos, soporte a wifi, supongo que la habrás visto, es lo primero que deberías haber hecho..., http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless. El 8 de agosto de 2011 17:51, Alberto Rivera M. rivera.albe...@gmail.comescribió: Hola Señor@s lister@s tod@s :) Necesito ayuda en la instalación de CentOs 5.5 en un Netbook Toshiba nb505, el asunto es que reconoce todo pero la tarjeta de red inalámbrica no funciona, la salida del lspci es la siguiente : 07:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01) al momento de hacer un iwconfig aparece no wireless extension por lo que no se puede ver si está transmitiendo o no con el iwlist ... Además, no encontré documentación en Internet ... por lo que solicito su ayuda y todos los comentarios que puedan hacer, experiencias o sitios donde poder consultar etc ... Saludos y espero sus comentarios. Alberto :) -- -- ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es -- -- ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Problemas en la tarjeta wifi en un netbook ...
Una distro que de seguro te funciona es PCLinuxOS, muy estable. El 11 de agosto de 2011 22:49, Edg@r Rodolfo edgarr...@gmail.com escribió: El día 11 de agosto de 2011 14:34, Alberto Rivera M. rivera.albe...@gmail.com escribió: El 09/08/11 00:26, Javier escribió: Hola, quizas en un kernel mas nuevo, como los que vienen con Fedora, estan los modulos para esa placa. Tambien podes probar actualizando con los que estan en los repo de centos-plus y sino de ultima, siempre esta el bendito ndiswrapper, que me salvo mas de 100 veces con las placas pedorras de noganet... Saludos Javier Basisty vale gracias pero incluso con la versión 6 del centos no aparece ... Hola, ahora el kernel de centos 6 es 2.9.32, si no me equivoco, es un fedora 12, debería reconocerte la mayoría de hardware, con centos 6 sobre todo, pero yo recomiendo que si van a usar portátiles primero pasarle el live cd si reconoce todo instalar, si no reconoce todo como la wifi no instalar, para portátiles que no estan soportadas yo recomiendo fedora, ubuntu o suse, no hay otra, pero de todas maneras visita la wiki de centos, soporte a wifi, supongo que la habrás visto, es lo primero que deberías haber hecho..., http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless. El 8 de agosto de 2011 17:51, Alberto Rivera M. rivera.albe...@gmail.comescribió: Hola Señor@s lister@s tod@s :) Necesito ayuda en la instalación de CentOs 5.5 en un Netbook Toshiba nb505, el asunto es que reconoce todo pero la tarjeta de red inalámbrica no funciona, la salida del lspci es la siguiente : 07:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01) al momento de hacer un iwconfig aparece no wireless extension por lo que no se puede ver si está transmitiendo o no con el iwlist ... Además, no encontré documentación en Internet ... por lo que solicito su ayuda y todos los comentarios que puedan hacer, experiencias o sitios donde poder consultar etc ... Saludos y espero sus comentarios. Alberto :) -- -- ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es -- -- ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es -- Saludos, David Rosado T. 095583628 ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS] selinux prohibiting sssd usage
On Wednesday 10 Aug 2011 18:59:14 Paul Heinlein wrote: Oddly, when using sssd+ldap, getent without a specific key won't return ldap account information, but with a key it will. That is, getent passwd will return only accounts in the local /etc/passwd database, but getent passwd bob will return ldap-supplied information about user bo That is normal unless you have 'enumerate = true' for the LDAP domain in SSSD config file. Note that SSSD manual warns that this may be slow for large installations (personally I haven't had a problem with it yet but only have 200 posix users). -- Michael Gliwinski Henderson Group Information Services 9-11 Hightown Avenue, Newtownabby, BT36 4RT Phone: 028 9034 3319 ** The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee and access to the email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients, any opinions or advice contained in this e-mail are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing client engagement leter or contract. If you have received this email in error please notify supp...@henderson-group.com John Henderson (Holdings) Ltd Registered office: 9 Hightown Avenue, Mallusk, County Antrim, Northern Ireland, BT36 4RT. Registered in Northern Ireland Registration Number NI010588 Vat No.: 814 6399 12 * ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] selinux prohibiting sssd usage
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011, Michael Gliwinski wrote: On Wednesday 10 Aug 2011 18:59:14 Paul Heinlein wrote: Oddly, when using sssd+ldap, getent without a specific key won't return ldap account information, but with a key it will. That is, getent passwd will return only accounts in the local /etc/passwd database, but getent passwd bob will return ldap-supplied information about user bo That is normal unless you have 'enumerate = true' for the LDAP domain in SSSD config file. Note that SSSD manual warns that this may be slow for large installations (personally I haven't had a problem with it yet but only have 200 posix users). I can confirm that With tens of thousands it's cripplingly slow. jh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] LDAP - Shadow options
dear All, I'm trying to set Shadow options in Ldap with the help of phpLDAPadmin. This is *what I know : * */Shadowmax : /maximum nr of days a pw can be valid * /ShadowLastchange : /contains the last change of the shadow file * Shadowwarning : nr of days before expiration to warn user. *What I'm trying *to do is have the users 's passwork expire, that works ok. But how can I have them get a warning message? setting Shadowwarning doesn't seem to be doing it. Do I have to set Shadowexpire as well for this? *Also, *how can I have users change the password at first logon? * *I cannot configure the LDAP files themselves, I only have access via phpLDAPadmin. Thanks for any advise. greetings, James -- Johan Vermeulen IT-medewerker Caw De Kempen johan.vermeu...@cawdekempen.be 0479.82.01.41 Opensource Software is the future. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ffmpeg
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Keith Roberts Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 1:36 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] ffmpeg On Wed, 10 Aug 2011, tdu...@sc.rr.com wrote: *snip* I use ffmpeg with Zoneminder. If you go to their website, there some links to download the latest version with svn. I never could find a rpm that worked. I was looking at that recently. Is there a suitable Centos 5.6 386 RPM for Zoneminder, or do I have to compile it from the source code? Regards, Keith I am running version 1.24.2 and had to roll my own b/c I couldn't find a rpm at the time. It did take a lot of trial and error to get it working. I still have all the files. If any of them would contain what I used for configure and make, I'd can send them to you. Eddie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: headless fanless silent 2 HDs micro server/pc...
Am Thu, 11 Aug 2011 03:38:10 -0700 (PDT) schrieb John Doe jd...@yahoo.com: From: Digimer li...@alteeve.com http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/15351-15351-4237916-4237918-4237917-4248009.html It looks quite nice, although a tiny bit too big for me (no real need the room for 4 HDs + 1 HD or DVD). Saw that one guy was able to install a Smart Array P410 with 512MB BBC too (too bad the drives are not hot-plug). And there is a remote management optional card (if it fits along the P410) which is great since I have no monitor at home. Just wondering how noisy 23dbs are... I tend to be very sensitive to noise, especially at night. If you sleep next to it and it is too noisy, chance are you don't need it and can switch it off at night ;-) I assume, with SSDs instead of HDs, it will be even more silent. My ALIX is only noiseless and fanless because it uses a CF as storage. With a full HD, I doubt I could run it fanless (and at 5W)... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] LDAP - Shadow options
On Thu, 2011-08-11 at 12:02 +0200, Johan Vermeulen wrote: dear All, I'm trying to set Shadow options in Ldap with the help of phpLDAPadmin. This is what I know : * Shadowmax : maximum nr of days a pw can be valid * ShadowLastchange : contains the last change of the shadow file * Shadowwarning : nr of days before expiration to warn user. What I'm trying to do is have the users 's passwork expire, that works ok. But how can I have them get a warning message? setting Shadowwarning doesn't seem to be doing it. Do I have to set Shadowexpire as well for this? Also, how can I have users change the password at first logon? I cannot configure the LDAP files themselves, I only have access via phpLDAPadmin. Thanks for any advise. --- phpldapadmin - you're wasting your time on this you need to implement ppolicy overlay (assuming you are using openldap) http://eatingsecurity.blogspot.com/2008/11/openldap-security.html Craig ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
Paul, Always Learning wrote: On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 17:10 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: listadmin, Can you PLEASE, PLEASE find *any* other blacklist than manitu? This asshole's method was ok a dozen years ago; these days, with hosting sites hosting tens or hundreds of thousands of domains, with too many running Windows, and so infected and sending out spam. They then send all mail via one mailhost, with the result that those of us with *no* spam coming out are frequently blocked. This ain't the first time for me with this jerk, either. A few years ago, Cogeco in Canada was using him, and on and off for *months* I was blocked from exchanging email with an old friend... because I was mailing from Roadrunner in Chicago (hosting hundreds of thousands of households), until my friend dropped Cogeco. snip Why not run your own mail server ? I use Exim (a Sendmail replacement) Because I'm not going to pay for colocation, or whatever. This is my personal domain, etc, and I'm paying about $6US for it a month. I'm not running a business, and so don't want to pay $$$ to Verizon for a business line. snip Spam is a USA invention created by someone called Wallace? about 15? years ago. It is now a world-wide pest. Ah, yes. I think you're thinking of the Green Card Scam, from Cantor and Siegal. Yes, I was on usenet then There's no such thing as community, this is just a marketing opportunity. mark -- If wealth == power and if power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely, what is the effect of monopolies and billionaires on democracy? - whitroth, 2002 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
Always Learning wrote: On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 21:36 -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: Waste of time and resources. Learn how to properly handle email and none of this nonsense is necessary. Properly handling emails means, to me, not being too reliant on others whose faults and omissions could impair your ability to send and receive mail . and not being a willing victim of spam ;-) You don't seem to understand the issue. My hosting provider has literally hundreds of thousands of domains. The email gets funneled for all, I assume, except those paying for co-location, through their heavy-duty mailhost. manitu sees spam coming from that mailhost, and blocks EVERY EMAIL FROM EVERY DOMAIN that goes through it, even though none of the rest of us are running windows or spamming marmk -- If wealth == power and if power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely, what is the effect of monopolies and billionaires on democracy? - whitroth, 2002 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
Hi Mark, You don't seem to understand the issue. My hosting provider has literally hundreds of thousands of domains. The email gets funneled for all, I assume, except those paying for co-location, through their heavy-duty mailhost. manitu sees spam coming from that mailhost, and blocks EVERY EMAIL FROM EVERY DOMAIN that goes through it, even though none of the rest of us are running windows or spamming Its the same old one size fits all syndrome. What I was suggesting, is can't you have a back-up plan. For example:- (1) run your own mail server ? (2) use something like Google which will automatically forward by SMTP and allow POP3 collection ? Obviously I don't know your computer situation. It seems your present 'service' is not always reliable, so is there anything we can do to help you devise an alternative plan ? -- With best regards, Paul. England, EU. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] sieveshell fails to start on CentOS 6.0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/10/2011 05:51 PM, Harold Pritchett wrote: On 8/10/2011 5:40 PM, Simon Matter wrote: SELinux? I'm out of ideas apart from that. Simon audit2allow /var/log/audit/audit.log shows no errors have been logged. I suppose I can try temporary turning selinux off to see if it makes a difference. I'll try that later this evening and post the results. I definitely don't want to permanently disable selinux. Harold ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos setenforce 0 Rather then disabling. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk5D0NYACgkQrlYvE4MpobOt0QCgzSgM8YXES1C1yeQaUc/ukcat KisAn2rJOUfo7pCH4tNZd6Q0Wexk20Zf =Jo80 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
Hi Mark, Why not run your own mail server ? I use Exim (a Sendmail replacement) Because I'm not going to pay for colocation, or whatever. This is my personal domain, etc, and I'm paying about $6US for it a month. I'm not running a business, and so don't want to pay $$$ to Verizon for a business line. My domains cost about USD 7.50 annually. Couldn't you get a VPS for little more than your USD 6 a month, or does that include your DSL connection ? Do you get mail by SMTP ? Ah, yes. I think you're thinking of the Green Card Scam, from Cantor and Siegal. Yes, I was on usenet then There's no such thing as community, this is just a marketing opportunity. Used to be on flame-wars then :-) And an ardent critic of the NRA gun nutters. -- With best regards, Paul. England, EU. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
Always Learning wrote: Hi Mark, You don't seem to understand the issue. My hosting provider has literally hundreds of thousands of domains. The email gets funneled for all, I assume, except those paying for co-location, through their heavy-duty mailhost. manitu sees spam coming from that mailhost, and blocks EVERY EMAIL FROM EVERY DOMAIN that goes through it, even though none of the rest of us are running windows or spamming Its the same old one size fits all syndrome. What I was suggesting, is can't you have a back-up plan. For example:- (1) run your own mail server ? (2) use something like Google which will automatically forward by SMTP and allow POP3 collection ? Obviously I don't know your computer situation. It seems your present 'service' is not always reliable, so is there anything we can do to help you devise an alternative plan ? No, you still don't understand. 1. I'm not going to join this list, or any other, from multiple email accounts 2. I do not want to use my current 'Net provider (that provides access to my home), because I've relocated too many times, and want one, utterly stable email address that's under my control. That's why I pay for hosting. My home 'Net access is through my local phone company. In the US, you have to pay significantly extra for a business line, which would *not* block my own mailserver. 3. 5-cent.us is my own domain. I'm paying a hosting provider (somewhere in the west of the US), because another techie mailing list I'm on recommended them as being a) reliable, and b) inexpensive. Finally, you're missing the real issue: not how I can use different email addresses, or run my own mailserver, but that I was hoping to have a conversation with the CentOS mailing list admin about using *anyone* else than manitu.net to block spam to the list. I mentioned the problems I had a few years back emailing to a friend in Canada through his then-local 'Net provider, because they were also using manitu.net. The real problem is manitou.net, and their algorythm. 15 years ago, it might have been reasonable to track mailhosts, and block all mail coming from that host. For the last 10 years, at least, it's *wrong*. Even the best of 'Net providers can't keep up with all the spammers (or don't have what I would consider reasonable policies in place). With the exception of a few outlaw sites, mostly, I believe, in eastern Europe or Asia, most ISPs *try*... but with all the mergers 10 years ago, most ISPs are *huge*. Roadrunner, that I mentioned, is a US national provider that does cable, VOIP, and 'Net in *many* cities around the US. I, personally, used them in Chicago and central Florida. I *think* they're part of Time-Warner. They are the ISP for millions of people, and tens or hundreds of thousands in each area, just as my hosting provider, Bluehost, hosts tens (or is it hundreds?) of *thousands* of domains. Some of those domains are running on *bleah* Windows (not Linux, as I am), and are clearly infected. For manitu.net to decide that *everyone* coming from that mailhost, regardless of the source domain, is incompetence and hostile to the way things are for years now. They are doing a *very* bad job, and have companies convinced that since they've been doing it for years, they should stay with them. I want the CentOS list maintainer to reconsider. I might also note that months ago - last year? - one or more other folks on this list had the same problem, for the same reason. It's manitu.net that's the problem, not my hosting provider. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
we block with manitu = nixspam as our primary RBL (followed by Spamhaus). Results are excellent. Their blocking is very reasonable. It's also possible to ask for inclusion in the whitelist. Obviously your great ISP Roadrunner isn't interested in inclusion or is sending out so many spam that they won't include it. Ask Roadrunner. Actually, Roadrunner has been known for years for big spam amounts originating from their network. I set it independently on our ACL for all mail servers years ago (not their whole IP range but all hosts matching their internet access assignment scheme). So, what you ask for is supporting one of the biggest spam output machinaries (besides Chinese ISPs) on the net. Thanks, no. Because I'm not going to pay for colocation, or whatever. Well, you are sending via monsterhost.com/bluehost.com which doesn't seem to belong to Roadrunner. So, what's your problem? Kai ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ffmpeg
On Wednesday, August 10, 2011 05:11:12 PM m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: This is annoying. I've been trying to get motion working correctly on CentOS 6. I installed faad2-libs. It *still* will not install, telling me the same: Error: Package: ffmpeg-libs-0.4.9-0.52.20080908.el5.x86_64 (rpmfusion-free-updates5-testing) Requires: libfaad.so.0()(64bit) Available: 1:faad2-libs-2.6.1-5.el5.x86_64 (rpmfusion-free-updates5-testing) If you're doing this on C6, why are you using C5 repositories? It doesn't look like rpmfusion for EL6 has ffmpeg yet; you might be able to rebuild the fedora 12/13/14 RPM on C6. RPMfusion still has ffmpeg for F13; you might be able to grab the F13 source RPM for ffmpeg and rebuild it on EL6. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
On Thu, 2011-08-11 at 09:09 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: The real problem is manitou.net, and their algorythm. 15 years ago, it might have been reasonable to track mailhosts, and block all mail coming from that host. For the last 10 years, at least, it's *wrong*. Even the best of 'Net providers can't keep up with all the spammers (or don't have what I would consider reasonable policies in place). With the exception of a few outlaw sites, mostly, I believe, in eastern Europe or Asia, most ISPs *try*... but with all the mergers 10 years ago, most ISPs are *huge*. Roadrunner, that I mentioned, is a US national provider that does cable, VOIP, and 'Net in *many* cities around the US. I, personally, used them in Chicago and central Florida. I *think* they're part of Time-Warner. They are the ISP for millions of people, and tens or hundreds of thousands in each area, just as my hosting provider, Bluehost, hosts tens (or is it hundreds?) of *thousands* of domains. Some of those domains are running on *bleah* Windows (not Linux, as I am), and are clearly infected. For manitu.net to decide that *everyone* coming from that mailhost, regardless of the source domain, is incompetence and hostile to the way things are for years now. They are doing a *very* bad job, and have companies convinced that since they've been doing it for years, they should stay with them. I want the CentOS list maintainer to reconsider. ISP amalgation in the western world is a fact of life. Who do you, and others, suggest as a 'fit for purpose' alternative to manitu.net ? -- With best regards, Paul. England, EU. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
On Thu, 2011-08-11 at 06:52 +0100, Keith Roberts wrote: On Thu, 11 Aug 2011, Always Learning wrote: Why not run your own mail server ? I use Exim (a Sendmail replacement) on several servers. I refuse incoming mails where the sender's HELO / EHLO does not match the sender's IP host name, because that - for me - eliminates 90% or more of spam and I absolutely detest spam. No Centos fan should have to depend on other's email services for daily communications, so do consider operating your own mail server. I have been wondering about that myself. I'm using postfix instead of sendmail: postfix 0:off 1:off 2:on3:on4:on5:on 6:off ... sendmail0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:off I did:- yum install exim yum erase (or was it remove?) sendmail Can I use postfix to send outgoing emails directly from my machine, without opening any external ports? Or is that required for the server handshake protocol? Never used postfix. For mail I use Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-19.el5). If I want to route outgoing mail by the Exim on the machine I'm using I just quote the mail server's host name (example. m4.u226.com). Obviously the Exim, or in your instance Postfix, needs to be configured to accept locally originating mail My Exim examples:- daemon_smtp_ports = 25 : 55525 local_interfaces = 127.0.0.1 : 10.123.123.42 (the IP address of the machine) Only problem with that was their mail server needed a password to connect to the server, and alpine is currently compiled without that option. So I had to enter the password whenever I wanted to send an email. Running your own mail server(s) generally means you simply send direct and your emails are not delayed by problems at your ISP. -- With best regards, Paul. England, EU. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
Kai Schaetzl wrote: we block with manitu = nixspam as our primary RBL (followed by Spamhaus). Results are excellent. Their blocking is very reasonable. It's also possible to ask for inclusion in the whitelist. Obviously your great ISP Roadrunner isn't interested in inclusion or is sending out so many spam that they won't include it. Ask Roadrunner. I'm sorry, nobody seems to get what I've been saying: I haven't been on roadrunner for two years. I'm sending this email via bluehost, my current hosting provider. Also, with these giant ISP/hosting services, trying to get them to do something for me, that's one vs. MegaGiantCo, w/ layers upon layers of managers and policy, is nearly impossible. I can try emailing Bluehost, but... Actually, Roadrunner has been known for years for big spam amounts originating from their network. I set it independently on our ACL for all mail servers years ago (not their whole IP range but all hosts matching their internet access assignment scheme). AND THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE between you and manitu.net. You're not going for their whole IP range, which seems to be what manitu is doing. So, what you ask for is supporting one of the biggest spam output machinaries (besides Chinese ISPs) on the net. Thanks, no. Well, except that means that a lot of people are in the boat the way I would have been, had I been on this list two years ago. My choice, where I was living in Chicago, for 'Net access was a) Comcast (*GAG*), ATT, or roadrunner. Great choice... and rr was the best, most reliable, and cheapest. Because I'm not going to pay for colocation, or whatever. Well, you are sending via monsterhost.com/bluehost.com which doesn't seem to belong to Roadrunner. So, what's your problem? Again, I haven't been with rr for two years. My current hosting provider, Bluehosts, is is telling me that I was banned. Also, again, it isn't just me. What was it, earlier this year? late last year? one or two other folks were complaining, when they could *finally* post again, that they'd been banned. mark mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
On 8/11/2011 8:09 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Obviously I don't know your computer situation. It seems your present 'service' is not always reliable, so is there anything we can do to help you devise an alternative plan ? No, you still don't understand. How much sympathy do you expect for self-inflicted pain? 1. I'm not going to join this list, or any other, from multiple email accounts So move them to gmail. Price is right. End of problem. If you don't like their browser interface, use pop/imap and authenticated smtp. Plus, you can set it up so they archive a copy when you download so you can delete your instance and still be able to log into their web interface and find it in a search if you want to review it later. If you like using your own mail host, use fetchmail to move it for you. Finally, you're missing the real issue: not how I can use different email addresses, or run my own mailserver, but that I was hoping to have a conversation with the CentOS mailing list admin about using *anyone* else than manitu.net to block spam to the list. I mentioned the problems I had a few years back emailing to a friend in Canada through his then-local 'Net provider, because they were also using manitu.net. That conversation would make sense if there were any spam blockers that cared about the collateral damage to unrelated hosts that happen to be in an IP range that they don't like. I don't think you'll find any. And it has always been that way since the start of those businesses. For manitu.net to decide that *everyone* coming from that mailhost, regardless of the source domain, is incompetence and hostile to the way things are for years now. Good luck with that... I think you'll find it easier to send though some service that accepts authenticated smtp and fights that battle for you than to do it yourself. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 09:52:47AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: On 8/11/2011 8:09 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: So move them to gmail. Price is right. End of problem. If you don't like their browser interface, use pop/imap and authenticated smtp. Did gmail ever fix their feature that if you send an email to a mailing list, you don't receive a copy? -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Faith: Isn't it crazy how slayin' just always makes you hungry and horny? Buffy: Well... sometimes I crave a nonfat yogurt afterwards. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
Les Mikesell wrote: On 8/11/2011 8:09 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: snip 1. I'm not going to join this list, or any other, from multiple email accounts So move them to gmail. Price is right. End of problem. If you don't No. Not ever. I have no intention of using a service that will have *years*, at least, of backups of all my mail, including stuff that was hypothetically d/l and *deleted*. Finally, you're missing the real issue: not how I can use different email addresses, or run my own mailserver, but that I was hoping to have a conversation with the CentOS mailing list admin about using *anyone* else than manitu.net to block spam to the list. I mentioned the problems I had a few years back emailing to a friend in Canada through his then-local 'Net provider, because they were also using manitu.net. That conversation would make sense if there were any spam blockers that cared about the collateral damage to unrelated hosts that happen to be So, in your experience, there aren't *any*, they all block an entire range? If so, why is that a valid method for blocking spam? in an IP range that they don't like. I don't think you'll find any. And it has always been that way since the start of those businesses. Yes, 15 years ago. I reiterate: it has been *completely* wrong for about 10 years. snip Good luck with that... I think you'll find it easier to send though some service that accepts authenticated smtp and fights that battle for you than to do it yourself. Um, my email does. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
On 8/11/2011 9:58 AM, Scott Robbins wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 09:52:47AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: On 8/11/2011 8:09 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: So move them to gmail. Price is right. End of problem. If you don't like their browser interface, use pop/imap and authenticated smtp. Did gmail ever fix their feature that if you send an email to a mailing list, you don't receive a copy? It is still like that at least through the web interface - not sure about through smtp. I actually use fetchmail to pull to my own imap host (set up before gmail did imap) and send through my own server except from my phone. I'll probably revisit the setup one of these days because I need a vpn to reach my own smtp host. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 11:02 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: On 8/11/2011 8:09 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: snip 1. I'm not going to join this list, or any other, from multiple email accounts So move them to gmail. Price is right. End of problem. If you don't No. Not ever. I have no intention of using a service that will have *years*, at least, of backups of all my mail, including stuff that was hypothetically d/l and *deleted*. The CentOS list is publicly archived. Who cares if Google keeps an extra copy? -- William Hooper ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
On 8/11/2011 10:02 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: So move them to gmail. Price is right. End of problem. If you don't No. Not ever. I have no intention of using a service that will have *years*, at least, of backups of all my mail, including stuff that was hypothetically d/l and *deleted*. Wait, do you think you can send something anywhere on the internet without it being monitored and potentially recorded? What country is this? If you are concerned about who will see something, don't put it anywhere on the internet. My mail is boring enough that no one else would bother reading it anyway. That conversation would make sense if there were any spam blockers that cared about the collateral damage to unrelated hosts that happen to be So, in your experience, there aren't *any*, they all block an entire range? If so, why is that a valid method for blocking spam? I haven't done extensive research, but there's not really a good way to do it at all, much less correctly. in an IP range that they don't like. I don't think you'll find any. And it has always been that way since the start of those businesses. Yes, 15 years ago. I reiterate: it has been *completely* wrong for about 10 years. It was always wrong. That doesn't mean it won't happen. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] How To for IPV6
Hi, I try to set up - A centos 6 firewall - With proxy-arp (I know: arp is not supported in ipv6) with ipv6. Arp does not exist for ipv6. So I have added: sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.default.proxy_ndp=1 To use the neighbor proxy facility. How to activate ipv6 forwarding? As far as I have found, this changed in RHEL6 from 6.1 (/etc/sysconfig/network) to 6.2 (/etc/sysctl.conf). CentOS 6? So I have used sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding=1 as in RHEL 6.2 As in ipv4 I would prefer to proxy the clients behind the firewall. eth0 is WAN, eth1 is LAN. I have read to use ip -6 neigh add proxy ipv6 address of eth1 dev eth0 but ip -6 neigh show shows nothing. Then I have tried Ip -6 neigh add proxy ipv6 address of client dev eth0 Same result. Is there any How To for ipv6 routing and proxying for CentOS? Best regards Helmut ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ffmpeg
I work with ffmpeg a lot. I recommend that you don't try to build the rpms which are constantly out of date. ffmpeg is a moving target so I recommend compiling it from git. It's relatively easy and you can find most of the dependencies in either epel or rpmforge (lame, xvid, faac etc...). There are a few dependencies that you need to also compile yourself but only if you think you need those features (amr encoding, x264 etc..) x264 is also notoriously out of date in any repo. You'll want to compile that yourself as well. Brandon On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 6:20 AM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote: On Wednesday, August 10, 2011 05:11:12 PM m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: This is annoying. I've been trying to get motion working correctly on CentOS 6. I installed faad2-libs. It *still* will not install, telling me the same: Error: Package: ffmpeg-libs-0.4.9-0.52.20080908.el5.x86_64 (rpmfusion-free-updates5-testing) Requires: libfaad.so.0()(64bit) Available: 1:faad2-libs-2.6.1-5.el5.x86_64 (rpmfusion-free-updates5-testing) If you're doing this on C6, why are you using C5 repositories? It doesn't look like rpmfusion for EL6 has ffmpeg yet; you might be able to rebuild the fedora 12/13/14 RPM on C6. RPMfusion still has ffmpeg for F13; you might be able to grab the F13 source RPM for ffmpeg and rebuild it on EL6. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ffmpeg
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Brandon Ooi brand...@gmail.com wrote: I work with ffmpeg a lot. I recommend that you don't try to build the rpms which are constantly out of date. ffmpeg is a moving target so I recommend compiling it from git. It's relatively easy and you can find most of the dependencies in either epel or rpmforge (lame, xvid, faac etc...). There are a few dependencies that you need to also compile yourself but only if you think you need those features (amr encoding, x264 etc..) x264 is also notoriously out of date in any repo. You'll want to compile that yourself as well. Brandon Oops, apologies for top-posting. Brandon ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] centos 6 and XFS
What do I need to enable XFS support in CentOS 6? is there a CentOS Plus kernel yet that enables this ? -- john r pierceN 37, W 122 santa cruz ca mid-left coast ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] centos 6 and XFS
On 08/11/2011 06:12 PM, John R Pierce wrote: What do I need to enable XFS support in CentOS 6? is there a CentOS Plus kernel yet that enables this ? xfs is available in the stock distro - KB ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] centos 6 and XFS
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:17:50 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote: On 08/11/2011 06:12 PM, John R Pierce wrote: What do I need to enable XFS support in CentOS 6? is there a CentOS Plus kernel yet that enables this ? xfs is available in the stock distro Only for the x86_64 kernel. Best regards, Morten ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ffmpeg
Brandon Ooi wrote: I work with ffmpeg a lot. I recommend that you don't try to build the rpms which are constantly out of date. ffmpeg is a moving target so I recommend compiling it from git. It's relatively easy and you can find most of the snip Not to be insulting, but I *wish* folks would read everything I wrote. I have a number of machines with motion running. I have one, now, that's on CentOS 6. We do *not* want to be building and packaging for each machine, for each new kernel. We *really* just want to use yum to install compiled packages. Now, so far, motion, and ffmpeg, are not available for 6. rpmfusion/updates/free/testing has faad2. I don't see ffmpeg, much less motion. So I'm stuck trying to work from an 5 repository for ffmpeg. I've already, unwillingly, gotten the tarball for motion, but can't install ffmpeg and ffmpeg-libs from EL5, because of the dependency on libfaad.so.0 (cf, dependency hell) I don't *seem* to be drawing the libfaad from 5 via yum, which I guess is my problem. And I *am* under orders as to what repositories are acceptable, and which are not. mark, with enough work to do to not want to rebuild from git ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
On Aug 11, 2011, at 4:51 AM, mark wrote: Always Learning wrote: On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 21:36 -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: Waste of time and resources. Learn how to properly handle email and none of this nonsense is necessary. Properly handling emails means, to me, not being too reliant on others whose faults and omissions could impair your ability to send and receive mail . and not being a willing victim of spam ;-) You don't seem to understand the issue. My hosting provider has literally hundreds of thousands of domains. The email gets funneled for all, I assume, except those paying for co-location, through their heavy-duty mailhost. manitu sees spam coming from that mailhost, and blocks EVERY EMAIL FROM EVERY DOMAIN that goes through it, even though none of the rest of us are running windows or spamming Not sure who it is that doesn't understand the issues. If an RBL has designated a particular SMTP server or range of SMTP servers as a source for spam then the solution lies with those that own the SMTP servers to satisfy the RBL and get the blocks removed. Yes, some RBL's are more aggressive than others but the notion that it blocks EVERY EMAIL FROM EVERY DOMAIN is exactly what RBL's are supposed to do since they don't worry at all about which e-mail or which domain at all... only SMTP servers from a particular IP Address or a range of IP Addresses. Craig ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
Craig White wrote: On Aug 11, 2011, at 4:51 AM, mark wrote: Always Learning wrote: On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 21:36 -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: Waste of time and resources. Learn how to properly handle email and none of this nonsense is necessary. Properly handling emails means, to me, not being too reliant on others whose faults and omissions could impair your ability to send and receive mail . and not being a willing victim of spam ;-) You don't seem to understand the issue. My hosting provider has literally hundreds of thousands of domains. The email gets funneled for all, I assume, except those paying for co-location, through their heavy-duty mailhost. manitu sees spam coming from that mailhost, and blocks EVERY EMAIL FROM EVERY DOMAIN that goes through it, even though none of the rest of us are running windows or spamming Not sure who it is that doesn't understand the issues. If an RBL has designated a particular SMTP server or range of SMTP servers as a source for spam then the solution lies with those that own the SMTP servers to satisfy the RBL and get the blocks removed. Yes, some RBL's are more aggressive than others but the notion that it blocks EVERY EMAIL FROM EVERY DOMAIN is exactly what RBL's are supposed to do since they don't worry at all about which e-mail or which domain at all... only SMTP servers from a particular IP Address or a range of IP Addresses. Craig ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
Sorry, mouse ran away there with the last post with no comments. Craig White wrote: On Aug 11, 2011, at 4:51 AM, mark wrote: Always Learning wrote: On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 21:36 -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: snip You don't seem to understand the issue. My hosting provider has literally hundreds of thousands of domains. The email gets funneled for all, I assume, except those paying for co-location, through their heavy-duty mailhost. manitu sees spam coming from that mailhost, and blocks EVERY EMAIL FROM EVERY DOMAIN that goes through it, even though none of the rest of us are running windows or spamming Not sure who it is that doesn't understand the issues. If an RBL has designated a particular SMTP server or range of SMTP servers as a source for spam then the solution lies with those that own the SMTP servers to satisfy the RBL and get the blocks removed. Yes, some RBL's are more aggressive than others but the notion that it blocks EVERY EMAIL FROM EVERY DOMAIN is exactly what RBL's are supposed to do since they don't worry at all about which e-mail or which domain at all... only SMTP servers from a particular IP Address or a range of IP Addresses. And that's *EXACTLY* what I'm saying is the wrong thing to do. Dunno where you live, but go ahead, for whoever provides 'Net access to your home: call them up, or email them, and tell them to contact manitu, and to request that manitu put them on a whitelist. Let me know when they get back to you. I'll look for your email sometime around the time when you move and change providers. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
On 08/11/2011 10:56 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Craig White wrote: On Aug 11, 2011, at 4:51 AM, mark wrote: Always Learning wrote: On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 21:36 -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: snip You don't seem to understand the issue. My hosting provider has literally hundreds of thousands of domains. The email gets funneled for all, I assume, except those paying for co-location, through their heavy-duty mailhost. manitu sees spam coming from that mailhost, and blocks EVERY EMAIL FROM EVERY DOMAIN that goes through it, even though none of the rest of us are running windows or spamming Not sure who it is that doesn't understand the issues. If an RBL has designated a particular SMTP server or range of SMTP servers as a source for spam then the solution lies with those that own the SMTP servers to satisfy the RBL and get the blocks removed. Yes, some RBL's are more aggressive than others but the notion that it blocks EVERY EMAIL FROM EVERY DOMAIN is exactly what RBL's are supposed to do since they don't worry at all about which e-mail or which domain at all... only SMTP servers from a particular IP Address or a range of IP Addresses. And that's *EXACTLY* what I'm saying is the wrong thing to do. Dunno where you live, but go ahead, for whoever provides 'Net access to your home: call them up, or email them, and tell them to contact manitu, and to request that manitu put them on a whitelist. Let me know when they get back to you. I'll look for your email sometime around the time when you move and change providers. In fact, that is one of the single most effective mechanisms used to combat spam, in my experience and will cut down the amount accepted at the gateway(s) by up to 95%. (I know a lot of folks on this list will maintain their own mail server and might get a few hundred or thousand messages each day going through but I've run systems with up to billions of messages a day which is a completely different ball game.) -- Josh Miller Open Source Solutions Architect http://itsecureadmin.com/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ffmpeg
On Thursday, August 11, 2011 01:25:59 PM m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Now, so far, motion, and ffmpeg, are not available for 6.
rpmfusion/updates/free/testing has faad2. I don't see ffmpeg, much less
motion. So I'm stuck trying to work from an 5 repository for ffmpeg.
There are basic dependency issues with trying to use what amounts to a Fedora
Core 6 repository with what amounts to a Fedora 12/13 OS. You will not likely
be successful in using an EL5 ffmpeg with EL6 due to more than just faad.
Since you can't use just any repo, and since you can't build from source, then
you'll just have to wait on the rpmfusion EL6 repo to get ffmpeg and motion.
Sorry.
More detail:
I typically use rpmforge for ffmpeg for EL5; I enabled rpmfusion on one of my
C5 machines, and find several differences between the rpmfusion and rpmforge
ffmpeg packages. First, as has been mentioned, the rpmfusion version of ffmpeg
is old, 0.4.9. The rpmforge version is 0.6.1. Looking at the requires for the
rpmfusion version of ffmpeg, I think the libfaad version is the least of the
troubles. But, since faad is where this shows up, note that the version of the
shared object is different, and thus probably incompatible:
(both of these machines are CentOS 5 fully updated)
[root@migration ~]# rpm -q --queryformat %{NAME}-%{VERSION} for %{ARCH} from
%{VENDOR}\n faad2-libs
faad2-libs-2.6.1 for x86_64 from RPM Fusion
faad2-libs-2.6.1 for i386 from RPM Fusion
[root@migration ~]# rpm -ql faad2-libs
/usr/lib64/libfaad.so.0
/usr/lib64/libfaad.so.0.0.0
/usr/lib/libfaad.so.0
/usr/lib/libfaad.so.0.0.0
[root@migration ~]#
+
[root@zoneminder ~]# rpm -q --queryformat %{NAME}-%{VERSION} for %{ARCH} from
%{VENDOR}\n faad2
faad2-2.7 for x86_64 from Dag Apt Repository, http://dag.wieers.com/apt/
[root@zoneminder ~]# rpm -ql faad2
/usr/bin/faad
/usr/lib64/libfaad.la
/usr/lib64/libfaad.so.2
/usr/lib64/libfaad.so.2.0.0
/usr/lib64/libmp4ff.a
/usr/share/doc/faad2-2.7
/usr/share/doc/faad2-2.7/AUTHORS
/usr/share/doc/faad2-2.7/COPYING
/usr/share/doc/faad2-2.7/ChangeLog
/usr/share/doc/faad2-2.7/NEWS
/usr/share/doc/faad2-2.7/README
/usr/share/doc/faad2-2.7/README.linux
/usr/share/doc/faad2-2.7/TODO
/usr/share/man/manm/faad.man.gz
[root@zoneminder ~]#
Note that libfaad.so.0.0.0 and libfaad.so.2.0.0 are likely incompatible with
each other.
In other words, an EL5 ffmpeg from rpmfusion is not going to work on EL6, more
than likely, without a lot of effort.
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Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
Josh Miller wrote: On 08/11/2011 10:56 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Craig White wrote: On Aug 11, 2011, at 4:51 AM, mark wrote: Always Learning wrote: On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 21:36 -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: snip You don't seem to understand the issue. My hosting provider has literally hundreds of thousands of domains. The email gets funneled for all, I assume, except those paying for co-location, through their heavy-duty mailhost. manitu sees spam coming from that mailhost, and blocks EVERY EMAIL FROM EVERY DOMAIN that goes through it, even though none of the rest of us are running windows or spamming Not sure who it is that doesn't understand the issues. If an RBL has designated a particular SMTP server or range of SMTP servers as a source for spam then the solution lies with those that own the SMTP servers to satisfy the RBL and get the blocks removed. Yes, some RBL's are more aggressive than others but the notion that it blocks EVERY EMAIL FROM EVERY DOMAIN is exactly what RBL's are supposed snip And that's *EXACTLY* what I'm saying is the wrong thing to do. Dunno where you live, but go ahead, for whoever provides 'Net access to your home: call them up, or email them, and tell them to contact manitu, and to request that manitu put them on a whitelist. Let me know when they get back to you. I'll look for your email sometime around the time when you move and change providers. In fact, that is one of the single most effective mechanisms used to combat spam, in my experience and will cut down the amount accepted at the gateway(s) by up to 95%. I'm not sure who you're answering or agreeing with, but my point is still that 90% of everybody blocked has no clue whatever about what to do about it, and esp. the people with infected systems. A standard channel *to* an ISP for this kind of technical issue - either the ISP notifying the spammer that their machine needs to be cleaned before they'll be allowed back online, or between ISP, would do something useful. But I doubt very much that most of those 90% of users who are *not* spammers, nor infected, would have any idea to complain to their ISP that something needed to be done, and so the ISP goes on thinking there's no problem. The result that *I* see from that is that people simply drop, or change services, and nothing gets fixed. snip mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ffmpeg
Lamar Owen wrote: On Thursday, August 11, 2011 01:25:59 PM m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Now, so far, motion, and ffmpeg, are not available for 6. rpmfusion/updates/free/testing has faad2. I don't see ffmpeg, much less motion. So I'm stuck trying to work from an 5 repository for ffmpeg. There are basic dependency issues with trying to use what amounts to a Fedora Core 6 repository with what amounts to a Fedora 12/13 OS. You will not likely be successful in using an EL5 ffmpeg with EL6 due to more than just faad. Since you can't use just any repo, and since you can't build from source, then you'll just have to wait on the rpmfusion EL6 repo to get ffmpeg and motion. Sorry. MVNCH Note that libfaad.so.0.0.0 and libfaad.so.2.0.0 are likely incompatible with each other. In other words, an EL5 ffmpeg from rpmfusion is not going to work on EL6, more than likely, without a lot of effort. Oh, great. Thanks, though, for the info. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
On Thu, 2011-08-11 at 13:56 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Craig White wrote: If an RBL has designated a particular SMTP server or range of SMTP servers as a source for spam then the solution lies with those that own the SMTP servers to satisfy the RBL and get the blocks removed. Yes, some RBL's are more aggressive than others but the notion that it blocks EVERY EMAIL FROM EVERY DOMAIN is exactly what RBL's are supposed to do since they don't worry at all about which e-mail or which domain at all... only SMTP servers from a particular IP Address or a range of IP Addresses. And that's *EXACTLY* what I'm saying is the wrong thing to do. Dunno where you live, but go ahead, for whoever provides 'Net access to your home: call them up, or email them, and tell them to contact manitu, and to request that manitu put them on a whitelist. Let me know when they get back to you. I'll look for your email sometime around the time when you move and change providers. You can not change the world on your own, even a little bit, without some help. Help from mass 'Internet connections' ISP staff is often dependent on not very intelligent people being able to understand your problem and then having the ability to forward-on your concerns to a more skilled person. Your task can be onerous and arduous and it will consume your ever decreasing free-time. Be pragmatic. Accept partial defeat. Get an alternative email arrangement and you may become more happier. Incidentally as you run your own mail via Bluehost are you actually affected, at the moment, by manitu because, presumably, you can send-out by BH ? -- With best regards, Paul. England, EU. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ffmpeg
On Thursday, August 11, 2011 01:05:46 PM Brandon Ooi wrote: I work with ffmpeg a lot. I recommend that you don't try to build the rpms which are constantly out of date. ffmpeg is a moving target so I recommend compiling it from git. This breaks, with regularity, ZoneMinder for one. I successfully built and am using ZoneMinder 1.24.2 with the rpmforge ffmpeg rpms, at the moment. (yeah, I know 1.24.4 is out, and I'll build that eventually) I'd much rather take a known working source RPM, and if I'm going to compile out of git then I'm going to create a proper tarball from which I can build from the source RPM so that when updates come down for libraries that ffmpeg depends upon things won't break because the package manager doesn't know about the dependency. Even compiling out of git, using packages gives you a better chance of not hitting update-breaks-things disease. I say a better chance; it's not 100%, but it's better than 0%, which is what compiling out of git without package management will give you. And, IMHO, important packages should not be moving targets, even with version numbers less than 1.0. OpenSSL was one like that, and it was a nightmare. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] centos 6 and XFS
On 08/11/11 10:23 AM, Morten Stevens wrote: xfs is available in the stock distro Only for the x86_64 kernel. ah. i needed to install xfsprogs and xfsdump to get mkfs.xfs. -- john r pierceN 37, W 122 santa cruz ca mid-left coast ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
On 08/11/2011 11:12 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Josh Miller wrote: In fact, that is one of the single most effective mechanisms used to combat spam, in my experience and will cut down the amount accepted at the gateway(s) by up to 95%. I'm not sure who you're answering or agreeing with, but my point is still that 90% of everybody blocked has no clue whatever about what to do about it, and esp. the people with infected systems. A standard channel *to* an ISP for this kind of technical issue - either the ISP notifying the spammer that their machine needs to be cleaned before they'll be allowed back online, or between ISP, would do something useful. But I doubt very much that most of those 90% of users who are *not* spammers, nor infected, would have any idea to complain to their ISP that something needed to be done, and so the ISP goes on thinking there's no problem. The result that *I* see from that is that people simply drop, or change services, and nothing gets fixed. snip Mark, I totally understand your viewpoint. I have been that guy on the phone with Comcast demanding that port 25 be un-blocked so that I could continue hosting email from my home ISP as part of my service agreement included the ability to check/send/receive email on-line (that only worked 2-3 times). The problem is that most home users don't host mail and don't care to. Along with that attitude is the fact that a significant amount of spam comes from IP addresses that are dynamically assigned or assigned by residential serving ISPs. It's much easier to block those IP ranges than to care that someone might be sending a few messages out of one of them from a reputable domain. Also, where I'm from (greater Seattle area even), you don't have much choice as far as ISPs go, so changing service providers is not a big option. -- Josh Miller Open Source Solutions Architect http://itsecureadmin.com/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
Always Learning wrote: On Thu, 2011-08-11 at 13:56 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Craig White wrote: And that's *EXACTLY* what I'm saying is the wrong thing to do. Dunno where you live, but go ahead, for whoever provides 'Net access to your home: call them up, or email them, and tell them to contact manitu, and to request that manitu put them on a whitelist. Let me know when they get back to you. I'll look for your email sometime around the time when you move and change providers. You can not change the world on your own, even a little bit, without some help. Help from mass 'Internet connections' ISP staff is often dependent on not very intelligent people being able to understand your problem and then having the ability to forward-on your concerns to a more skilled person. That's people who are deeply trained to ask, as the first question, and not think to the second sentence, until you answer what is your operating system?, or maybe have you turned on your computer, or have you rebooted your computer, and the idea that the problem is on *their* end is out of the room. Try getting one of them to ping your cable modem when the *ethernet* port burns out, but the coax port is fine. Last time I had to, it took about 10 min before she went to talk to her manager Your task can be onerous and arduous and it will consume your ever decreasing free-time. Be pragmatic. Accept partial defeat. Get an alternative email arrangement and you may become more happier. NO. I WILL *NOT* allow the goddamned spammers to block me from the 'Net, and I'm *not* willing to have them cost me my email, and go to somewhere else; certainly not to someone's suggestion of yahoo (and they aren't banned by manitu?) Incidentally as you run your own mail via Bluehost are you actually affected, at the moment, by manitu because, presumably, you can send-out by BH ? You misunderstand: I pay them for hosting. They provide the mailserver; it just comes from my domain on my virtual host on their servers. I don't run a business, so I'm not going to pay a *lot* more than $6US/mo to run my own mailserver mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
On Aug 11, 2011, at 10:56 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Sorry, mouse ran away there with the last post with no comments. Craig White wrote: On Aug 11, 2011, at 4:51 AM, mark wrote: Always Learning wrote: On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 21:36 -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: snip You don't seem to understand the issue. My hosting provider has literally hundreds of thousands of domains. The email gets funneled for all, I assume, except those paying for co-location, through their heavy-duty mailhost. manitu sees spam coming from that mailhost, and blocks EVERY EMAIL FROM EVERY DOMAIN that goes through it, even though none of the rest of us are running windows or spamming Not sure who it is that doesn't understand the issues. If an RBL has designated a particular SMTP server or range of SMTP servers as a source for spam then the solution lies with those that own the SMTP servers to satisfy the RBL and get the blocks removed. Yes, some RBL's are more aggressive than others but the notion that it blocks EVERY EMAIL FROM EVERY DOMAIN is exactly what RBL's are supposed to do since they don't worry at all about which e-mail or which domain at all... only SMTP servers from a particular IP Address or a range of IP Addresses. And that's *EXACTLY* what I'm saying is the wrong thing to do. Dunno where you live, but go ahead, for whoever provides 'Net access to your home: call them up, or email them, and tell them to contact manitu, and to request that manitu put them on a whitelist. Let me know when they get back to you. I'll look for your email sometime around the time when you move and change providers. hmmm... I just got ATT admins to fix their blocks a few weeks ago but I did have to be persistent and insistent. you do what you have to do and if you start with a defeated attitude... Craig ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote on Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:12:03 -0400: I'm not sure who you're answering or agreeing with, but my point is still that 90% of everybody blocked has no clue whatever about what to do about it, and esp. the people with infected systems. A standard channel *to* an ISP for this kind of technical issue - either the ISP notifying the spammer that their machine needs to be cleaned before they'll be allowed back online, or between ISP, would do something useful. You confuse things. Either talk about RR (= ISP) or Bluehost (= Hosting Provider). *You cannot mix both.* Users on ISP networks are blocked by most mailservers for direct mail delivery, anyway. They have to use the smarthost of their ISP. That smarthost is supposed to make sure that the amount of spam originating from it is as small as possible. If they do that they are very unlikely to get on any list. If they do that they also care about getting on whitelists. If they don't do that you better look for another provider or other means to send out your mail. Of course, if you don't care either then you get what you paid for. Kai ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote on Thu, 11 Aug 2011 09:46:22 -0400: I'm sorry, nobody seems to get what I've been saying: I haven't been on roadrunner for two years. I'm sending this email via bluehost, my current hosting provider. Ok, so you use Bluehost and one of their mailservers got on the list because spam was sent over it. Is that correct? There is an easy solution for them: they can ask Nixspam to be put on the whitelist or they can spamscan their outgoing SMTP (many hosting providers do that). Complain to them. AND THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE between you and manitu.net. You're not going for their whole IP range, which seems to be what manitu is doing. Not correct. Nixspam adds single IP numbers once their spamtraps have received spam from them. The IP gets automatically removed after 12 or 24 hours (look it up in their policy). That's fair enough, isn't it? Again, I haven't been with rr for two years. My current hosting provider, Bluehosts, is is telling me that I was banned. *You* were banned or one of *their* mail servers got banned? Also, again, it isn't just me. What was it, earlier this year? late last year? one or two other folks were complaining, when they could *finally* post again, that they'd been banned. It's simple. If there is no spam originating from that mail server it won't get on the list. If there is some spam originating from that mail server despite all good efforts to avoid that and they are on the whitelist it won't get on the list. In any other case I don't see why it shouldn't make it on the list if spam originates from it. You got blocked this single one time in two years and you already complain? I'm sorry, but I have no sympathy for that. If it were going to happen frequently you would have my sympathy. But I would also tell you to move to a better host that cares more about not spamming. Is it really the first time that you hear about the concept of RBLs? They have been around for years and have proven to be one of the most effective ways to combat spam, still. Kai ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] centos 6 and XFS
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011, John R Pierce wrote: To: centos@centos.org From: John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com Subject: Re: [CentOS] centos 6 and XFS On 08/11/11 10:23 AM, Morten Stevens wrote: xfs is available in the stock distro Only for the x86_64 kernel. ah. i needed to install xfsprogs and xfsdump to get mkfs.xfs. Yes - that sounds right. Keith - Websites: http://www.karsites.net http://www.php-debuggers.net http://www.raised-from-the-dead.org.uk All email addresses are challenge-response protected with TMDA [http://tmda.net] - ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
On 8/11/2011 1:16 PM, Always Learning wrote: Let me know when they get back to you. I'll look for your email sometime around the time when you move and change providers. You can not change the world on your own, even a little bit, without some help. Help from mass 'Internet connections' ISP staff is often dependent on not very intelligent people being able to understand your problem and then having the ability to forward-on your concerns to a more skilled person. And it's fairly safe to assume that every IP range that permits uncontrolled customers _will_ have spam-forwarding viruses present. It's even likely on a slightly out of date CentOS box although I thought the botnets valued linux hosts more as coordinating nodes to distribute the workload. Your task can be onerous and arduous and it will consume your ever decreasing free-time. Be pragmatic. Accept partial defeat. Get an alternative email arrangement and you may become more happier. Incidentally as you run your own mail via Bluehost are you actually affected, at the moment, by manitu because, presumably, you can send-out by BH ? The quick fix normally is to relay through the upstream ISP's mailer, although those sometimes are blacklisted too. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
Josh Miller wrote: On 08/11/2011 11:12 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Josh Miller wrote: In fact, that is one of the single most effective mechanisms used to combat spam, in my experience and will cut down the amount accepted at the gateway(s) by up to 95%. I'm not sure who you're answering or agreeing with, but my point is still that 90% of everybody blocked has no clue whatever about what to do about it, and esp. the people with infected systems. A standard channel *to* an ISP for this kind of technical issue - either the ISP notifying the spammer that their machine needs to be cleaned before they'll be allowed back online, or between ISP, would do snip *I* see from that is that people simply drop, or change services, and nothing gets fixed. snip Also, where I'm from (greater Seattle area even), you don't have much choice as far as ISPs go, so changing service providers is not a big option. Yup. That's true most places (competition, *hah*). And all the major ISP's I've dealt with since the conglomeration in Chicago of ISP's about 11 years ago have been the same: common carrier, but not understanding (as I think of it) that spam is the same as problem noise on the line. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
Kai Schaetzl wrote: m.r...@5-cent.us wrote on Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:12:03 -0400: I'm not sure who you're answering or agreeing with, but my point is still that 90% of everybody blocked has no clue whatever about what to do about it, and esp. the people with infected systems. A standard channel *to* an ISP for this kind of technical issue - either the ISP notifying the spammer that their machine needs to be cleaned before they'll be allowed back online, or between ISP, would do something useful. You confuse things. Either talk about RR (= ISP) or Bluehost (= Hosting Provider). *You cannot mix both.* Users on ISP networks are blocked by I'm sorry if I've confused you. I used to be on RR when I lived in Chicago twice, and also in central Florida; that was several years ago. The last two years, I've used Bluehost/Hostmonster as my HP, and used them to send mail, *not* using my local ISP (which happens to be the phone co). snip mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: headless fanless silent 2 HDs micro server/pc...
On 08/11/2011 03:38 AM, John Doe wrote: From: Digimerli...@alteeve.com http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/15351-15351-4237916-4237918-4237917-4248009.html It looks quite nice, although a tiny bit too big for me (no real need the room for 4 HDs + 1 HD or DVD). Saw that one guy was able to install a Smart Array P410 with 512MB BBC too (too bad the drives are not hot-plug). And there is a remote management optional card (if it fits along the P410) which is great since I have no monitor at home. Just wondering how noisy 23dbs are... I tend to be very sensitive to noise, especially at night. From: Emmett Culleyemm...@webengineer.com Check out the Supermicro X7SPA and X7SPE motherboards. http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/ICH9/X7SPA-H-D525.cfm I am running CentOS 5.6 and CentOS 6 x86_64 on them. The fake raid says RAID 0, 1, 5, 10 support (Windows Only)... did you install a RAID card? Did you find a nice low profile/noise case for it? Thx, JD I use Linux software raid, and never hardware raid :-) I use this case for most of our deployments: http://www.casetronic.com/product_d.php?id=78 Though I am testing with this one now, as it supports two hard drives and has room inside for an and-in card. http://www.casetronic.com/product_d.php?id=71 Emmett ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
Kai Schaetzl wrote: m.r...@5-cent.us wrote on Thu, 11 Aug 2011 09:46:22 -0400: I'm sorry, nobody seems to get what I've been saying: I haven't been on roadrunner for two years. I'm sending this email via bluehost, my current hosting provider. Ok, so you use Bluehost and one of their mailservers got on the list because spam was sent over it. Is that correct? There is an easy solution for them: they can ask Nixspam to be put on the whitelist or they can spamscan their outgoing SMTP (many hosting providers do that). Complain to them. Assuming I can get someone who is *willing* to bump it up to tier 2 or 3 support, who *might* be able to do something about it. And I will do that. However, manitu has been a problem a number of times. Again, I haven't been with rr for two years. My current hosting provider, Bluehosts, is is telling me that I was banned. *You* were banned or one of *their* mail servers got banned? It appears that mail coming from their mailhost's IP was banned. Also, again, it isn't just me. What was it, earlier this year? late last year? one or two other folks were complaining, when they could *finally* post again, that they'd been banned. You got blocked this single one time in two years and you already complain? No. I've been blocked for a period ranging from hours to several days, and kept getting myself unbanned, a number of times in the last couple of years. And once or twice, the same time I was having this problem, there were one or two others who, once they got unbanned, complained of the same problem. snip Is it really the first time that you hear about the concept of RBLs? They have been around for years and have proven to be one of the most effective ways to combat spam, still. No, and I've always disagreed with the way they do it. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
On 8/11/2011 1:35 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Be pragmatic. Accept partial defeat. Get an alternative email arrangement and you may become more happier. NO. I WILL *NOT* allow the goddamned spammers to block me from the 'Net, and I'm *not* willing to have them cost me my email, and go to somewhere else; certainly not to someone's suggestion of yahoo (and they aren't banned by manitu?) Nobody is blocking _you_. The spam services just provide a listing that lets the recipients choose if they want to accept what you send from questionable locations. Incidentally as you run your own mail via Bluehost are you actually affected, at the moment, by manitu because, presumably, you can send-out by BH ? You misunderstand: I pay them for hosting. They provide the mailserver; it just comes from my domain on my virtual host on their servers. I don't run a business, so I'm not going to pay a *lot* more than $6US/mo to run my own mailserver Many/most ISP's provide an upstream SMTP relay as part of the service. If they do, configure it as your smart_host and it will fix the problem. If they don't, find some other relay service. Sending authenticated smtp though a free gmail account would work but they might check to see if the From: address matches the account (haven't tested that). The point is, that it will be easier to find a relay that someone trusts than to get the rest of the world to trust your random IP address in a block that anyone can get for $6/mo. Or, feel free to waste your time trying to change the world, but don't expect a lot of sympathy for the pain of beating your head on a wall, even if the wall doesn't belong there. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 08:53:02PM +0200, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Is it really the first time that you hear about the concept of RBLs? They have been around for years and have proven to be one of the most effective ways to combat spam, still. I'll love to see how they handle IPv6 once machines can use privacy extensions and have a complete /48 to themselves... They can't block whole subnets 'cos a /64 might be subnetted to different customers (see linode, panix for two examples). Will be interesting! -- rgds Stephen ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] change LUKS filesystem password
How do you change the LUKS filesystem password? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] vmxnet3 patch for CentOS6 kernel?
Hi, Could CentOS kernel keepers apply following patch on current kernel? http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/95785/ (Current as: 2.6.32-71.29.1.el6.x86_64) With the patch applied, and a .local kernel built, I get 30% higher throughput with vmxnet3 in my IP routing node, than when using e1000 card at the same. Without the patch, the TCP flow over vmxnet3 driver on a _router_ node is abysmally slow. I am running a bunch of CentOS servers on VMware ESXi 4.1U1 hosts with multiple of VLANs. The best network performance is obtainable with vmxnet3 network driver in normal case. This driver includes so called LRO optimization, which boosts TCP flow network performance on end-nodes, but kills it on routers, thus the LRO mode needs to be disabled on a host doing routing in between network interfaces. The issue is a bug in vmxnet3 driver, which is not able to disable LRO mode when the kernel is telling the driver to do so. The patch for it applies on 2.6.32 kernels as well as 2.6.38/39 where it got applied to baseline. Could this be applied on stock CentOS kernel so that I could return on un-customized kernel use? Best Regards, Matti Aarnio PS: bugs.centos.org is apparently unable to send email out, otherwise I would have written this as a bug report... http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/95785/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] vmxnet3 patch for CentOS6 kernel?
Hi, Could CentOS kernel keepers apply following patch on current kernel? http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/95785/ (Current as: 2.6.32-71.29.1.el6.x86_64) Maybe it could go into the plus kernel, but I'm quite sure it will not be put into the standard kernel. Did you check if it is in the upcoming 6.1 kernel (2.6.32-131.6.1.el6)? Simon ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] vmxnet3 patch for CentOS6 kernel?
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Matti Aarnio matti.aar...@methics.fi wrote: Hi, Could CentOS kernel keepers apply following patch on current kernel? http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/95785/ (snip) Could this be applied on stock CentOS kernel so that I could return on un-customized kernel use? Because CentOS is a bug-for-bug clone of the upstream vendor's, it is not possible to modify or apply patches to the distro kernel. But this could be done in the centosplus kernel. PS: bugs.centos.org is apparently unable to send email out, otherwise I would have written this as a bug report... Yes, it is broken. I filed a request to repair it at: http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=5032 Akemi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote on Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:07:49 -0400: No. I've been blocked for a period ranging from hours to several days, and kept getting myself unbanned, a number of times in the last couple of years. I see. So you got what you paid for. Kai ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote on Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:03:45 -0400: I'm sorry if I've confused you. *You* confused things. You mixed ISPs and hosting. You can't. You were talking largely about ISPs and how their customers get blocked from sending mail directly and how they don't have a clue. I was trying to tell you that most mailservers won't accept mail from them, anyway. Kai ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] change LUKS filesystem password
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011, ken wrote: How do you change the LUKS filesystem password? [Caveat: this is sort of from memory; I don't have a luks-encrypted device handy for testing...] First, add a second key (password): cryptsetup luksAddKey /dev/XXX Then delete the original key cryptsetup luksKillSlot /dev/XXX 0 You need to be careful to get the slot numbers correct. Use the luksDump option to see how things are setup on your system. -- Paul Heinlein heinl...@madboa.com http://www.madboa.com/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] vmxnet3 patch for CentOS6 kernel?
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 00:17:02 +0300, Matti Aarnio wrote: The issue is a bug in vmxnet3 driver, which is not able to disable LRO mode when the kernel is telling the driver to do so. The patch for it applies on 2.6.32 kernels as well as 2.6.38/39 where it got applied to baseline. What is with vmware tools? VMware tools provides the latest vmxnet3 driver. The current version is: VMwareTools-8.3.7-433358.tar.gz Best regards, Morten ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011, Les Mikesell wrote: *snip* Many/most ISP's provide an upstream SMTP relay as part of the service. If they do, configure it as your smart_host and it will fix the problem. If they don't, find some other relay service. Is this any good? http://www.noreply.org/echolot/rlist2.html Keith - Websites: http://www.karsites.net http://www.php-debuggers.net http://www.raised-from-the-dead.org.uk All email addresses are challenge-response protected with TMDA [http://tmda.net] - ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] drop manitu.net
On 8/11/2011 4:56 PM, Keith Roberts wrote: On Thu, 11 Aug 2011, Les Mikesell wrote: *snip* Many/most ISP's provide an upstream SMTP relay as part of the service. If they do, configure it as your smart_host and it will fix the problem. If they don't, find some other relay service. Is this any good? http://www.noreply.org/echolot/rlist2.html Different concept. Those remailers try to remove identifying information from the headers. For normal email you just want it to be sent from an address that others don't expect to be originating spam. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] vmxnet3 patch for CentOS6 kernel?
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Morten Stevens mstev...@imt-systems.com wrote: On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 00:17:02 +0300, Matti Aarnio wrote: The issue is a bug in vmxnet3 driver, which is not able to disable LRO mode when the kernel is telling the driver to do so. The patch for it applies on 2.6.32 kernels as well as 2.6.38/39 where it got applied to baseline. What is with vmware tools? VMware tools provides the latest vmxnet3 driver. The current version is: VMwareTools-8.3.7-433358.tar.gz Yes, but ... I just checked the version I got. It is VMwareTools-8.4.6-385536.tar.gz and contains vmxnet3.c (dated May 26). However, the patch OP referenced (dated May 16, 2011) is not in there. Looks like it is too new. Akemi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] sieveshell fails to start on CentOS 6.0
--On Wednesday, August 10, 2011 01:52:21 PM -0400 Harold Pritchett har...@uga.edu wrote: [harold@newmick ~]$ sieveshell localhost connecting to localhost unable to connect to server at /usr/bin/sieveshell line 170. Try specifying both --user and --authname as appropriate. sieveshell can be misleading in its error messages, and you may actually have an authentication error rather than a connection error there. You could run it under strace to make sure. Devin ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] smartd and palimpsest
I notice that the smartd service is not running by default on a new installation. But palimpsest seems to get updated statistics every so often as when I check the statistics on a drive it says last updated some number of minutes ago. So if smartd isn't running, where does palimpsest get its information from and what is updating it? Second question, what would enabling the smartd service gain me that I don't have right now? -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com www.creekfm.com - FIFTY THOUSAND WATTS of POW WOW POWER! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] smartd and palimpsest
At Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:57:59 -0600 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: I notice that the smartd service is not running by default on a new installation. But palimpsest seems to get updated statistics every so often as when I check the statistics on a drive it says last updated some number of minutes ago. So if smartd isn't running, where does palimpsest get its information from and what is updating it? Second question, what would enabling the smartd service gain me that I don't have right now? Almost all modern disk are S.M.A.R.T capable. What this means is that various information about the disk, mostly relating to its health can be monitored. This includes things like sector errors. If smartd is running root will get E-Mail if/when something (however minor) happens to the disk. -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 / hel...@deepsoft.com Deepwoods Software-- http://www.deepsoft.com/ () ascii ribbon campaign -- against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org -- against proprietary attachments ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to open several tabs in a gnome-terminal window and run a command in each tab?
Hi swapping out bash for tsch doen't work unfortunately. The window that gets created when you do this only stays open for a split second. You are right, bash is on the Centos server, it is just that the many custom environment variables at my workplace only work in a tsch shell. Anyone know a way of doing this using only tsch? Pete ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] change LUKS filesystem password
Ngày 04:16 12/08/2011, ken viết: How do you change the LUKS filesystem password? Please take a look at our wiki http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/EncryptedFilesystem ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] smartd and palimpsest
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 20:42:46 -0400 Robert Heller wrote: Almost all modern disk are S.M.A.R.T capable. What this means is that various information about the disk, mostly relating to its health can be monitored. This includes things like sector errors. If smartd is running root will get E-Mail if/when something (however minor) happens to the disk. As smartd isn't running in the default Centos configuration, where does palimpsest get its information? Is it a self-contained program that doesn't require smartd or is something else happening behind the scenes? -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com www.creekfm.com - FIFTY THOUSAND WATTS of POW WOW POWER! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] smartd and palimpsest
As smartd isn't running in the default Centos configuration, where does palimpsest get its information? Is it a self-contained program that doesn't require smartd or is something else happening behind the scenes? I think you misunderstood the first reply: smartd, as in the init script is a means to alert root of pending issues, _it_ doesn't present the data, _that_ init script simply checks it and reports it. You don't need it running to make the data available, the attributes exist in the device. jlc ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] smartd and palimpsest
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 04:05:47 + Joseph L. Casale wrote: I think you misunderstood the first reply: smartd, as in the init script is a means to alert root of pending issues, _it_ doesn't present the data, _that_ init script simply checks it and reports it. You don't need it running to make the data available, the attributes exist in the device. Which still doesn't answer my question. Perhaps I'm wording it poorly -- I'll try again: I load palimpsest and click on the entry for my hard drive, then click on the button labelled SMART Data and I see this on the first line of the window that opens: Updated: 14 minutes ago My question is, what happened 14 minutes ago? I didn't do anything 14 minutes ago, so something apparently ran in the background and updated that data. What is that something and how often does it run? -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com www.creekfm.com - FIFTY THOUSAND WATTS of POW WOW POWER! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] smartd and palimpsest
Which still doesn't answer my question. Perhaps I'm wording it poorly -- I'll try again: Perhaps palimpsest runs smartctl and queries the device itself? Perhaps it borrowed code from the project and runs the query itself? I don't have any servers with GUI's, couldn't tell you... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
