[CentOS-announce] CESA-2012:0060 Moderate CentOS 5 openssl Update

2012-02-07 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2012:0060 Moderate

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2012-0060.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) 

i386:
4e24142e043d6a22161c589ae9a3845255c85db2e5f6a4f25c91c87d424d61ef  
openssl-0.9.8e-20.el5_7.1.0.1.centos.i386.rpm
79e1510c19787a433c4c65d4887cc7ce4a8e511826ea2e714ce10ad59dcf398e  
openssl-0.9.8e-20.el5_7.1.0.1.centos.i686.rpm
77592fb450989aa7e2d4ebf311de0714ebed529ce58409bec2d718bee70d843c  
openssl-devel-0.9.8e-20.el5_7.1.0.1.centos.i386.rpm
832af976fbd8d82ee748ad2ac696697c56324c09af89990b8215f705f81feaef  
openssl-perl-0.9.8e-20.el5_7.1.0.1.centos.i386.rpm

x86_64:
79e1510c19787a433c4c65d4887cc7ce4a8e511826ea2e714ce10ad59dcf398e  
openssl-0.9.8e-20.el5_7.1.0.1.centos.i686.rpm
41b00785ba5d7f79b686d0981f940fbd75f729110189eb693af3d10afccff71a  
openssl-0.9.8e-20.el5_7.1.0.1.centos.x86_64.rpm
77592fb450989aa7e2d4ebf311de0714ebed529ce58409bec2d718bee70d843c  
openssl-devel-0.9.8e-20.el5_7.1.0.1.centos.i386.rpm
163bf5f13d8a767deecc71b70b5e6237c7aa44208af0234980e78b66a2d21221  
openssl-devel-0.9.8e-20.el5_7.1.0.1.centos.x86_64.rpm
4c3b5206a1fa079325f3b08f3ee81af5a9289f4521d5614d41e5501ad47aa976  
openssl-perl-0.9.8e-20.el5_7.1.0.1.centos.x86_64.rpm

Source:
27eb8351655accb27eb1380af188980bd9cec322834c93a0247ccdba44ca6b75  
openssl-0.9.8e-20.el5_7.1.0.1.centos.src.rpm



NOTE:  This is a reissue of RPMS due to a md5sum error in shared document files 
that prevented the i686 and x86_64 RPMS to be installed simultaneously on an 
x86_64 machine.  See http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=5489 for details.


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Re: [CentOS] my notes on bond, bridge, network, kvm, host and virtual so far

2012-02-07 Thread Bob Hoffman
well, had to add something to it.

I found out I was having an issue with the addon ethernet card (e1000) 
'link detected no'
and it not working. Took it out? Yep? Work? No.

However, I did add a second vm and something interesting is happening

one vm stays up, one will crash...the one that stays does not die.

I am thinking that the vnet0 that comes up is messed up and I need to 
reset it somehow.
Or...something elsebut one staying up while other goes down is 
rather odd.

very strange.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 vps

2012-02-07 Thread nux
Bazy writes:

 Hello,
 
 I'm looking for two hours now for a VPS provider offering CentOS 6 in
 DE or UK. Can you please point me to one, maybe where you currently
 own a virtual server and have a good experience with it.
 

+1 Hetzner for DE.
In UK check Bytemark.co.uk.


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Re: [CentOS] Red Hat Extends Linux Support

2012-02-07 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 02/02/2012 05:00 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 02/02/12 2:48 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote:
 What do you think this means for CentOS long term support?

 http://www.serverwatch.com/server-news/red-hat-extends-linux-support.html
 I'd guess that the CentOS team will be supporting EL5 for the additional 
 3 years, as long as RH makes the SRPM's readily available...


Correct ... if RH makes the SRPMS available for the entire period (and
they should), then CentOS will be built them for the entire period.

If RH were to make publicly available their EUS SRPMS
(http://www.redhat.com/products/enterprise-linux-add-ons/extended-update-support/),
then we would also build and release those.  The EUS SRPMS are not
publicly available.

Remember, we (the CentOS Dev Team) use CentOS in production.  That was
our major motivation to be in the project in the first place (to built
an enterprise distro that we can use).

We are all about providing a secure product for as long as possible ...



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Re: [CentOS] looking for lxc rpm for centos 6.2 x86_64

2012-02-07 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 02/06/2012 01:44 PM, Barry Brimer wrote:
 workload. Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.2 provides application level 
 containers to separate and control the application resource usage policies 

ah, interesting. I saw that + didnt see userland lxc tools and stopped
looking. On 6.2 virt --connect lxc:// works, so time to prod a bit and
see what falls out.

will post findings and maybe a walkthrough

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Re: [CentOS] rsync from rescue boot

2012-02-07 Thread Michael Simpson
On 31 January 2012 22:14, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 4:01 PM,  m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic off...@plnet.rs
 wrote:
 On 01/31/2012 09:47 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
 No, I'm trying to have rsync make an outbound connection over ssh from
 the rescue environment and getting what looks like an argument error
 from ssh.   Ssh itself works and I can connect to the same target if I
 run it directly, and the exact same rsync command lines work from a
 normal host.  Either rsync isn't setting up the remote command right,
 or ssh isn't allowing it and giving a bad error message.

There was a buggy version of rsync that did this. It wasn't
initialising the ssh session properly
from my email a while ago:

On Tue, 23 Aug 2011, Ned Slider wrote:

 On 23/08/11 12:35, Michael Simpson wrote:
 Hello

 Is anyone else having problems on 5.6 using the new rsync from the CR repo
 I have only managed to get rsync (called from the cli) working again
 after downgrading it to the previous 2.x release as the newer version
 was just spitting out the ssh usage information and failing.
 This server is stock i386 with just the CR as an extra repo.

 regards

 mike

 Known issue I'm guessing:

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=724041

 which was fixed nearly a month ago.

So instead of saying nearly a month ago how about we we say it was only
released 20 days ago. BZ says it was released 03 Aug 11.


 If this is your issue, try appending username@host like so:

 rsync user@host:/

 as a workaround, but I'm not sure why CentOS is still shipping an old
 broken version?

Umm, maybe because upstream shipped rsync-3.0.6-4.el5.i386.rpm with 5.7 and
the rsync-3.0.6-4.el5_7.1.i386.rpm has not made it to CentOS yet.

Remember that bug for bug compatibility thing. :-)

Patience is a virtue.

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Re: [CentOS] new mysql installation, kinda stuck- sorta solved

2012-02-07 Thread Michael Simpson
On 3 February 2012 07:22,  n...@li.nux.ro wrote:
 Bob Hoffman writes:

 When you run into this kind of problems you can just remove or rename
 /var/lib/mysql and restart the service, it should reset you back to
 square one. Of course, make a backup first!


Sometimes you need to run mysql-db-install as well if you have del'd
all of the /var/lib/mysql/ directory

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Re: [CentOS] SSD Drives

2012-02-07 Thread Michael Simpson
On 2 February 2012 18:19, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Has anyone installed a high I/O application such as an email server on
 SSD drives?  Was thinking about doing two SSD's in RAID1.  It would
 solve my I/O latency issues but I have heard that SSD's wear out
 quickly in high I/O situations?  Something like each memory location
 only has X many writes before its done.  Just wandering if anyone has
 tested it and if newer SSD's are better about this?

Sun were recommending using SSDs for the ZIL in really big ZFS install
*years ago* so go for it.

As long as you are using TRIM then you avoid the slowdown that happens
once the ssd is full

http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Storage_Administration_Guide/newmds-ssdtuning.html

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Re: [CentOS] gtar compression achieved

2012-02-07 Thread Alexandru Chiscan
On 02/01/2012 04:18 PM, Alan McKay wrote:
 Hey folks,

 I looked at the man page and don't see any way to do this - maybe it is a
 function of the compression program used I dunno.

 Is there any way to get gtar to report on the compression it achieved?

 I can't just check file sizes because I'm writing data to tape.

 The basic problem is that I know how much data is there to begin with but I
 don't know how much room it took up on the tape so I have no idea how much
 room is left on the tape.
You could ask tar to automatically request tape change when reaching end 
of tape:

-M, --multi-volume
   create/list/extract multi-volume archive

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Re: [CentOS] about major version upgrades

2012-02-07 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 02/07/2012 07:04 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
 Hi all,

 In http://goo.gl/Krjfh I read:

 +++
 Upgrading from CentOS-4 or CentOS-5:
 We recommend everyone run through a reinstall rather than attempt an
 inplace upgrade from CentOS-4 or CentOS-5
 +++

 Do you ever now if that advice will be up to date for the 6 to 7 upgrade?

 What is the preferred upgrade process if some want to upgrade inplace?
 I mostly run virtual guest in a one-VM-per-service (MySQL, php, Mail,
 DNS, NFS/SMB) basis, with a main + spare physical machine.

 I'm installing 6.2 on our dev servers and try to pre-evaluate the amount
 of work when 7 will be released.


6.x will be supported until 2020. Reinstalling once in 10 years should 
not be the problem.

Reinstall is ALWAYS advised, since probably many packages will be either 
depreciated or heavily changed in version 7.0.

That being said, there will always be unsupported way to upgrade from 
one version to the next.

It is Your choice in the end.


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Re: [CentOS] about major version upgrades

2012-02-07 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 02/07/2012 06:39 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
 On 02/07/2012 07:04 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
 Hi all,

 In http://goo.gl/Krjfh I read:

 +++
 Upgrading from CentOS-4 or CentOS-5:
 We recommend everyone run through a reinstall rather than attempt an
 inplace upgrade from CentOS-4 or CentOS-5
 +++

 Do you ever now if that advice will be up to date for the 6 to 7 upgrade?

 What is the preferred upgrade process if some want to upgrade inplace?
 I mostly run virtual guest in a one-VM-per-service (MySQL, php, Mail,
 DNS, NFS/SMB) basis, with a main + spare physical machine.

 I'm installing 6.2 on our dev servers and try to pre-evaluate the amount
 of work when 7 will be released.

 6.x will be supported until 2020. Reinstalling once in 10 years should 
 not be the problem.

 Reinstall is ALWAYS advised, since probably many packages will be either 
 depreciated or heavily changed in version 7.0.

 That being said, there will always be unsupported way to upgrade from 
 one version to the next.

 It is Your choice in the end.



It is also a MAJORLY big deal to move from one major version to another
(ie a move from CentOS-5.x to CentOS-6.x).  This is because there is no
API/ABI compatibility between major versions like there is for minor
versions.

The php is going to be much newer, the samba is going to me much newer,
the httpd is going to be much newer, the kernel is going to much newer,
ldap is going to much newer, etc.

For example, I recently upgraded a CentOS-4 box to CentOS-5 and I went
from the CentOS-4 php to a CentOS-5 version ... I had to re-code my
applications written for the php-4.3.9 in CentOS-4 to instead work with
the php-5.1.6 in CentOS-5.  I had to rework all the mod_auth files from
httpd-2.0.x to work with mod_authz from httpd-2.2.x ... etc.

The purpose for having enterprise software is so that you can get a
return on your investment and use your code for 7 years (for CentOS
versions before CentOS-4 ... now 10 years in post CentOS-5).  But
keeping things for that period of time means that when you do need to
upgrade, the differences are much harder and the changes are usually
much bigger for a given package.



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Re: [CentOS] distributed storage/home-made cloud recommendations

2012-02-07 Thread Ross Walker
On Feb 5, 2012, at 6:33 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote:

 I just tried a bunch of combinations on a 3 x 11 raid60 configuration 
 plus 3 global hotspares, and decided that letting the controller (LSI 
 9260-8i MegaSAS2) do it was easier all the way around.   of course, with 
 other controllerrs, your mileage may vary.  and yes, megacli64 is an 
 ugly tool to tame.

Some controllers are better.

Software based stripes do allow you to span RAID controllers though which 
provides a lot of flexibility.

When I do do software striping I do it within LVM instead of creating a RAID0 
as I found it easier to manage long term.

-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] Google video chat on 5.7 using the Fedora RPM

2012-02-07 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 02/06/2012 04:22 PM, E Westphal wrote:
 I've tried to use the Google recommended RPM to enable video chat on
 5.7. Get a long list of unsatisfied dependencies. Has anyone got this to
 work and not created a boat full of problems? Is this something that
 does work in 6 and just not in 5.7 - another reason to jump in and
 update? Please advise. Thanks.
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The only way to meet the requirements is to build (at least optional for
use inside a library directory) all the required shared libraries to run
the package.

There are usually huge differences between the Fedora shared libraries
and the CentOS ones ... otherwise there would be no reason to have CentOS :D

Another option might be to build the program with CentOS shared
libraries (if that is possible, based on the program's source code).



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[CentOS] where to download CENTOS 4.9 DVD image?

2012-02-07 Thread mcclnx mcc
I want to CENTOS site and try to download version 4.9.  I found all download 
sites ONLY have 4.8 NO 4.9.

anyone know where can i download CENTOS 4.9 DVD image?

Thanks.

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Re: [CentOS] about major version upgrades

2012-02-07 Thread Ross Walker
On Feb 7, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org wrote:

 The purpose for having enterprise software is so that you can get a
 return on your investment and use your code for 7 years (for CentOS
 versions before CentOS-4 ... now 10 years in post CentOS-5).  But
 keeping things for that period of time means that when you do need to
 upgrade, the differences are much harder and the changes are usually
 much bigger for a given package.

For this reason it is often better to upgrade more frequently then every 7-10 
years. Personally I have a 5 year max lifetime for my systems. Even then 
upgrades are painful and we try to stagger these so they all aren't due to 
upgrade at once.

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Re: [CentOS] where to download CENTOS 4.9 DVD image?

2012-02-07 Thread Pinter Tibor
On 02/07/2012 04:10 PM, mcclnx mcc wrote:
 I want to CENTOS site and try to download version 4.9.  I found all download 
 sites ONLY have 4.8 NO 4.9.

 anyone know where can i download CENTOS 4.9 DVD image?

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The upstream provider did not respin media for the 4.9 release and therefore 
the CentOS project will also not respin our install media.

Installs moving forward will be off the 4.8 media and an upgrade will move you 
from version 4.8 to version 4.9.

We do this to maintain compatibility with 3rd party kernel drivers which are 
designed to be installed as part of the installation process.

t

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Re: [CentOS] where to download CENTOS 4.9 DVD image?

2012-02-07 Thread Tony Mountifield
In article 1328627423.71063.yahoomail...@web74406.mail.tp2.yahoo.com,
mcclnx mcc mcc...@yahoo.com.tw wrote:
 I want to CENTOS site and try to download version 4.9.  I found all download 
 sites ONLY have
 4.8 NO 4.9.
 
 anyone know where can i download CENTOS 4.9 DVD image?

There isn't one. Please see 
http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS4.9
section 3, Known Issues.

The DVDs were not built for CentOS 4.9. The install method is to use the
4.8 install media and then do a yum update to update to 4.9.

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Re: [CentOS] distributed storage/home-made cloud recommendations

2012-02-07 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 02/04/2012 11:39 AM, Boris Epstein wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Laurent Wandrebeck
 l.wandreb...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I'm happily running moosefs (packages available in rpmforge repo) for a
 year and a half, 120TB, soon 200. So easy to setup and grow it's
 indecent :)

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 Hello Laurent,

 Thanks! Very useful info, I never even heard of MooseFS and it sounds very
 nice.

 One question: what happens if you lose your master server in their
 designation? Or is it possible to make the master server redundant as well?

 Boris.


You said Cloud and machines ... then you described something that you
can do on one box with a bunch of drives.

Do you really want a cloud (a bunch of machines with their own drives)
or a large RAID array?

You are getting answers for both now.

If you really do want some kind of cloud storage system and you are
putting the machines in one datacenter ... I would recommend GlusterFS:

http://www.gluster.org/

GlusterFS has been bought by Red Hat and they offer it in a Storage
solution right now ... And they have CentOS RPMs here for centos5 and
centos6:

http://download.gluster.com/pub/gluster/glusterfs/LATEST/CentOS/

If you use the replicated volumes, you can lose bunches of machines and
still have functioning service:

http://download.gluster.com/pub/gluster/glusterfs/3.2/Documentation/AG/html/sect-Administration_Guide--Setting_Volumes-Replicated.html




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[CentOS] schily tools

2012-02-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Let me comment some questions in one single mail:

 My basic requirement with what I'm doing is to use standard tools and
 formats so that archives I write today can be readable in 10 years.

Star becomes 30 in 4 months, any archive created since it's early beginning in 
summer 1982 can still be read back.



 I don't think there is any such general consensus.  Are you reading
 something that favors Solaris/*bsd over GNU based systems?

Schily tools (and in special star) implement support for Linux specific 
extensions. This is what you do not get from gtar at all. So why do Linux
distros prefer gtar even though there is no Linux support?



 I doubt if they are as well maintained in linux distros as the GNU
 tool set, particularly in terms of having recent fixes backported into
 the versions carried in enterprise distros.

gtar still did not fix bugs I reported in 1993 (e.g. the bug that causes gtar 
to complain with skipping to next header even on it's own archives). I am 
thus sure that star not not worse than gtar



 It shouldn't matter if you don't use either of the version's
 extensions, and for archiving you probably don't need them.  For
 example, star and GNUtar use very different concepts for incremental
 backups - star is sort of like dump and must work on filesystem
 boundaries where GNUtar's --listed incremental needs a file to hold
 state but will work on arbitrary directories and can span mount
 points.  But for archiving, you probably only care about the maximum
 size of a file it can handle.

When I implemented incremental restores for star in September 2004, I wrote a 
simple script for a incremental testcase and tested the deltas with 
ufsdump/ufsrestore, gtar and the star version at that time. Gtar was unable to 
deal with my testcase, so I stopped testing it any further. 

If you like to discuss incrementals, you definitely need to discuss behavior at 
restore time and restoring incrementals definitely does not work correclty with 
gtar if you renamed directories. 

Star is used to do incremental backups/restores on a dayly base in Berlios 
since September 2004. Since Spring 2005, not a single problem was seen, so 
there are more that 2500 successful incremental restores that verify no problem 
even under stange conditions.



 I don't think so - I'm fairly sure I've seen GNUtar complain about bad
 headers, say 'skipping to next header'  and then find something. It
 won't do that if you used the -z option because you generally can't
 recover from errors in compression.  But, I've never seen a tape drive
 recover from an error and continue past it anyway so in practice
 that's not going to matter.  If you are concerned about errors, keep
 more copies.

This problem is not caused by compression or not, it is a general gtar bug that 
I reported in 1993 already. Nobody knows why it hits and the structure of the 
gtar sources makes it really hard to debug this problem. The FSF was interested 
to throw aywa gtar and replace it by star 10 years ago for this kind of 
problems in gtar.



 afio is an archiver (available from third-party repos, not base) which
 can compress yet still recover--it basically compresses each file
 individually instead of compressing the entire archive, so the file
 might be unrecoverable but the rest of the archive is still intact.
 I use it for my tape backups (though your point of not knowing if
 it'll fit on the tape is valid).

Be careful with what you believe. The CPIO archive format in general is worse 
with resyncing to a defective archive that TAR is. Also note that afio greates 
arhives that may start to be non CPIO compliant somewhere in the middle. So you 
can never know whether you are able to restore with anything other than afio. 
What if afio does not compile on your new platform because it is no longer 
maintained?

Also note that the POSIX standard dropped CPIO as an actively supported 
archiveformat because (different from TAR) any extention to CPIO results in 
creating a new incompatible archive format.



The following other problems are known with gtar:

-   gtar is with aprox. 5% probability unable to read it's own
continuation archives from multi volume archives. This cannot be fixed 
as it is caused by the concept used for multi volume archives in gtar.
 
-   gtar created archives with defective sparse file until a few years ago 
(up to ~ 2005) in case a file was bigger than a few GB. 
 
-   gtar has much less features than star 

-   gtar does not inlcude libfind, so there is no support for the find(1)
command line syntax in gtar.

-   gtar needs aprox. 3x more CPU time as star 

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Re: [CentOS] install detecting disk as sdb not sda

2012-02-07 Thread wwp
Hello,


On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 01:29:31 +0100 Leonard den Ottolander 
leon...@den.ottolander.nl wrote:

 Hello wwp,
 
 On Fri, 2012-02-03 at 23:31 +0100, wwp wrote:
  I grabbed the UUID from `lshal` and replaced it in fstab:
UUID=005374e2_5c18_437d_84d8_8069868fe54e   ext4noatime,nodiratime  0   0
  
  .. no luck, it doesn't automount at boot. I think I'll have to
  investigate or get another brain update.
 
 Or just add the mount point to that entry :) .

Well, it still doesn't work w/ UUID= (the UUID is correct), but works
fine w/ LABEL=, I'm happy with this now.


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Re: [CentOS] schily tools

2012-02-07 Thread Dennis Clarke

 Let me comment some questions in one single mail:

 My basic requirement with what I'm doing is to use standard tools and
 formats so that archives I write today can be readable in 10 years.

 Star becomes 30 in 4 months, any archive created since it's early
 beginning in summer 1982 can still be read back.

 I have been using it for about a decade or more and anything I dumped
has been a no brainer to retrieve, on any other OS or even architecture.

 I don't think there is any such general consensus.  Are you reading
 something that favors Solaris/*bsd over GNU based systems?

 Schily tools (and in special star) implement support for Linux specific
 extensions. This is what you do not get from gtar at all. So why do Linux
 distros prefer gtar even though there is no Linux support?

Is there any correlation between this and the warning message I see during a
bootstrap like so :

 Warning: *** /usr/src/linux/include contains broken include files ***
 Warning: *** /usr/src/linux/include is not used this reason ***
 Warning: This may result in the inability to use recent Linux kernel
 interfaces

 Warning: *** linux/ext2_fs.h is not usable at all ***
 Warning: *** This makes it impossible to support Linux file flags ***
 You may try to compile using 'make COPTX=-DTRY_EXT2_FS'

 I doubt if they are as well maintained in linux distros as the GNU
 tool set, particularly in terms of having recent fixes backported into
 the versions carried in enterprise distros.

 gtar still did not fix bugs I reported in 1993 (e.g. the bug that
 causes gtar to complain with skipping to next header even on it's
 own archives). I am thus sure that star not not worse than gtar

There seems to be something missing here.

The subject was schily tools which is a lot more than star :

root@rsync:/etc/default# ls /opt/schily/bin
bosh  cdrecord  isodebug  mdigest   pfsh sfind
star  ustar bsh   changeisodump  mkhybrid
pxupgradesformat  star_sym  ved   btcflash  compare   isoinfo
mkisofs   readcd   sgrowsuntarved-e
calc  copy  isovfymtsccs sh
tar   ved-w
calltree  count jsh   odscgcheck smake
tartest
cdda2mp3  devdump   label opatchscgskeleton  smt
termcap
cdda2ogg  gnutarlndir p scpiospatch
translit
cdda2wav  hdump match pfbsh sdd  spax
udiff

care to comment on any of these ?  Certainly bosh needs a few words.

 dc

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Re: [CentOS] about major version upgrades

2012-02-07 Thread Craig White

On Feb 7, 2012, at 8:07 AM, Ross Walker wrote:

 On Feb 7, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org wrote:
 
 The purpose for having enterprise software is so that you can get a
 return on your investment and use your code for 7 years (for CentOS
 versions before CentOS-4 ... now 10 years in post CentOS-5).  But
 keeping things for that period of time means that when you do need to
 upgrade, the differences are much harder and the changes are usually
 much bigger for a given package.
 
 For this reason it is often better to upgrade more frequently then every 7-10 
 years. Personally I have a 5 year max lifetime for my systems. Even then 
 upgrades are painful and we try to stagger these so they all aren't due to 
 upgrade at once.

if you think about it, perhaps you are making the case for using a 
configuration management system like puppet where the configuration details are 
more or less abstracted from the underlying OS itself. Thus once running (and 
I'm not suggesting that it is a simple task), migrating servers from CentOS 5.x 
to 6.x or perhaps to Debian or Ubuntu becomes a relatively simple task as the 
configuration details come from the puppet server.

This becomes more evident when you stop looking at a server being a single OS 
install on a single box and start running virtualized servers.

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Re: [CentOS] schily tools

2012-02-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Joerg Schilling
joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:

 When I implemented incremental restores for star in September 2004, I wrote a
 simple script for a incremental testcase and tested the deltas with
 ufsdump/ufsrestore, gtar and the star version at that time. Gtar was unable to
 deal with my testcase, so I stopped testing it any further.

My testcase for star was moving a subdirectory of what my backup runs
covered onto a mounted volume.  Star failed and I stopped testing it
any further.

 If you like to discuss incrementals, you definitely need to discuss behavior 
 at
 restore time and restoring incrementals definitely does not work correclty 
 with
 gtar if you renamed directories.

If that is the issue I recall, you can recover without losing data.

 Star is used to do incremental backups/restores on a dayly base in Berlios
 since September 2004. Since Spring 2005, not a single problem was seen, so
 there are more that 2500 successful incremental restores that verify no 
 problem
 even under stange conditions.

So it all that time you have not mounted a new volume somewhere?  No
remote backups of hosts where someone else might add space?  No one
ever wanted to restore onto a different mount topology than the one
where the backups were taken?   Being able to do those things is the
reason I use tar instead of filesystem-dependent dump.

 This problem is not caused by compression or not, it is a general gtar bug 
 that
 I reported in 1993 already. Nobody knows why it hits and the structure of the
 gtar sources makes it really hard to debug this problem. The FSF was 
 interested
 to throw aywa gtar and replace it by star 10 years ago for this kind of
 problems in gtar.

So, you have a repeatable test case for this and no one has looked
into it?  That's surprising considering the number of people who have
contributed to gnutar.   And what drove the decision not to adopt
star?

 The following other problems are known with gtar:

 -       gtar is with aprox. 5% probability unable to read it's own
        continuation archives from multi volume archives. This cannot be fixed
        as it is caused by the concept used for multi volume archives in gtar.

I assume you mean the version where you let the tape drive hit the
end, not where you tell it the length.  Does star always work in that
scenario?

 -       gtar has much less features than star

Unless you would like it to do incrementals properly across mount
points... And I thought there was another reason regarding  features
that amanda used gtar as well - maybe it was the ability to quickly
estimate sizes of incrementals.  If it had worked for amanda, I would
probably have been using it for ages.  When I looked at it, it
couldn't because of missing features.  These days I mostly use
backuppc with rsync as the transport since online access is so much
nicer than tapes and rsync obviously excels at detecting differences
in incrementals, but I suppose there is still a place for archives.

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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2012:0060 Moderate

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2012-0060.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) 

i386:
4e24142e043d6a22161c589ae9a3845255c85db2e5f6a4f25c91c87d424d61ef  
openssl-0.9.8e-20.el5_7.1.0.1.centos.i386.rpm
79e1510c19787a433c4c65d4887cc7ce4a8e511826ea2e714ce10ad59dcf398e  
openssl-0.9.8e-20.el5_7.1.0.1.centos.i686.rpm
77592fb450989aa7e2d4ebf311de0714ebed529ce58409bec2d718bee70d843c  
openssl-devel-0.9.8e-20.el5_7.1.0.1.centos.i386.rpm
832af976fbd8d82ee748ad2ac696697c56324c09af89990b8215f705f81feaef  
openssl-perl-0.9.8e-20.el5_7.1.0.1.centos.i386.rpm

x86_64:
79e1510c19787a433c4c65d4887cc7ce4a8e511826ea2e714ce10ad59dcf398e  
openssl-0.9.8e-20.el5_7.1.0.1.centos.i686.rpm
41b00785ba5d7f79b686d0981f940fbd75f729110189eb693af3d10afccff71a  
openssl-0.9.8e-20.el5_7.1.0.1.centos.x86_64.rpm
77592fb450989aa7e2d4ebf311de0714ebed529ce58409bec2d718bee70d843c  
openssl-devel-0.9.8e-20.el5_7.1.0.1.centos.i386.rpm
163bf5f13d8a767deecc71b70b5e6237c7aa44208af0234980e78b66a2d21221  
openssl-devel-0.9.8e-20.el5_7.1.0.1.centos.x86_64.rpm
4c3b5206a1fa079325f3b08f3ee81af5a9289f4521d5614d41e5501ad47aa976  
openssl-perl-0.9.8e-20.el5_7.1.0.1.centos.x86_64.rpm

Source:
27eb8351655accb27eb1380af188980bd9cec322834c93a0247ccdba44ca6b75  
openssl-0.9.8e-20.el5_7.1.0.1.centos.src.rpm



NOTE:  This is a reissue of RPMS due to a md5sum error in shared document files 
that prevented the i686 and x86_64 RPMS to be installed simultaneously on an 
x86_64 machine.  See http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=5489 for details.


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Re: [CentOS] rsync from rescue boot

2012-02-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 5:22 AM, Michael Simpson mikie.simp...@gmail.com wrote:

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=724041

 which was fixed nearly a month ago.

 So instead of saying nearly a month ago how about we we say it was only
 released 20 days ago. BZ says it was released 03 Aug 11.


 If this is your issue, try appending username@host like so:

 rsync user@host:/

 as a workaround, but I'm not sure why CentOS is still shipping an old
 broken version?

Yes, that's it.  Thanks!

 Umm, maybe because upstream shipped rsync-3.0.6-4.el5.i386.rpm with 5.7 and
 the rsync-3.0.6-4.el5_7.1.i386.rpm has not made it to CentOS yet.

 Remember that bug for bug compatibility thing. :-)

 Patience is a virtue.

Well, it is burned on the CentOS 5.7 install/rescue DVD.  No amount of
patience is going to change that, so remembering the workaround will
be the only choice when using that iso in rescue mode...  Is that
something that QA testing in CentOS should have caught or would it
have automatically passed as a match for upstream?

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Re: [CentOS] new mysql installation, kinda stuck- sorta solved

2012-02-07 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 02/07/2012 11:52 AM, Michael Simpson wrote:
 Sometimes you need to run mysql-db-install as well if you have del'd
 all of the /var/lib/mysql/ directory

the init scripts should take care of that, as long as there is no
/var/lib/mysql present on the machine.

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Re: [CentOS] about major version upgrades

2012-02-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Craig White craig.wh...@ttiltd.com wrote:

 For this reason it is often better to upgrade more frequently then every 
 7-10 years. Personally I have a 5 year max lifetime for my systems. Even 
 then upgrades are painful and we try to stagger these so they all aren't due 
 to upgrade at once.
 
 if you think about it, perhaps you are making the case for using a 
 configuration management system like puppet where the configuration details 
 are more or less abstracted from the underlying OS itself. Thus once running 
 (and I'm not suggesting that it is a simple task), migrating servers from 
 CentOS 5.x to 6.x or perhaps to Debian or Ubuntu becomes a relatively simple 
 task as the configuration details come from the puppet server.

If it is possible to abstract the differences, perhaps you aren't
using all the new features and didn't have to upgrade after all...

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[CentOS] Problems installing 6.2 on HP 8540w laptop

2012-02-07 Thread david
Folks

I've been trying to install Centos 6.2 on an HP Mobile Workstation 
8540w.  For various reasons, I have restarted the install many 
times.I use the 64-bit DVD image.  The install chooses the following options

a)  Install with Basic Video Driver
b)  Skip the media scan
c)  Default Country, Language, Basic Storage Devices, change time zone
d)  Fresh Installation
e)  Configure network, (turn on wired Always Connect).
f)   Hit ALT-B to get back to examining storage devices.  (I found I 
had to do this to get the HostName field filled in with the defaults 
from DHCP).
[See below, frequent hangs here, in which case I power down and 
start again]
g)  If I get beyond the HostName stage, I choose the Virtual Host 
method and the install goes to completion successfully.

The machine is connected with an ethernet cable to a LAN that is my 
internal NAT'ted system.  The wireless button indicates disabled.

I have been getting varied results with (presumably) the same 
starting conditions.  In each case, I power off the machine, wait a 
few seconds, and power it on with the DVD image in place, choose 
Install with basic video driver, and go through the same sequence.

On many attempts, the installation sequence finishes just right, and 
the reboot gives me the expected root prompt.  The USB mouse does not 
work during install, so I have to use the keyboard and touch-pad pointers.

Among the anomalies I get are:

1)  The first Waiting for hardware to initialize... is as far as it 
goes.  Usually, it's done in a couple of seconds and goes on to a 
second hardware scan.  Sometimes it hangs for over a minute before I give up.

2)  The install appears to come to the end, the DVD is ejected, and I 
hit ENTER to reboot.  The reboot starts and the screen goes 
dark.  Power down and power up to boot from HD succeeds, but there 
was a flash of about three lines on the screen before the blue 
sliding bar appeared.

3)  The install sequence hangs with the screen all blue except for 
the bottom line which reads Running anaconda 13.21.149, the CentOS 
installer, Please wait ...  Then after about a minute the screen 
blinks and goes dark.

4)  The install sequence hangs on Media Detected - Found local 
installation media, the CD drive idled down.

5)  The install sequence hangs on Examining Devices, Examining 
storage devices, with the blue slider almost at the left 
edge.  Although this screen appears several times, the instance that 
hangs is the one after I've activated the wired network and hit Back.

In most cases, if the system gets to the point of choosing the 
Virtual Host option, the installation completes successfully.

So, -- is this an issue with the install procedure?  Does it not 
treat this hardware correctly?   Is there some other startup method 
or option I could use?

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Re: [CentOS] schily tools

2012-02-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Dennis Clarke dcla...@blastwave.org wrote:

  I don't think there is any such general consensus.  Are you reading
  something that favors Solaris/*bsd over GNU based systems?
 
  Schily tools (and in special star) implement support for Linux specific
  extensions. This is what you do not get from gtar at all. So why do Linux
  distros prefer gtar even though there is no Linux support?

 Is there any correlation between this and the warning message I see during a
 bootstrap like so :

  Warning: *** /usr/src/linux/include contains broken include files ***
  Warning: *** /usr/src/linux/include is not used this reason ***
  Warning: This may result in the inability to use recent Linux kernel
  interfaces

  Warning: *** linux/ext2_fs.h is not usable at all ***
  Warning: *** This makes it impossible to support Linux file flags ***
  You may try to compile using 'make COPTX=-DTRY_EXT2_FS'

This is indeed one of the Linux specific issues. The Linux kernel guys create 
defective include files. In other words:

The linux kernel include files that are needed in order to access certain 
features (in this case the ext* extended file flags) cause a C compiler error 
in case they are used from a userland program. 

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Re: [CentOS] schily tools

2012-02-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Joerg Schilling
 joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
 
  When I implemented incremental restores for star in September 2004, I wrote 
  a
  simple script for a incremental testcase and tested the deltas with
  ufsdump/ufsrestore, gtar and the star version at that time. Gtar was unable 
  to
  deal with my testcase, so I stopped testing it any further.

 My testcase for star was moving a subdirectory of what my backup runs
 covered onto a mounted volume.  Star failed and I stopped testing it
 any further.

So you tried to do something that cannot work for a filesystem oriented program.
This is not a problem from star but you just did not use star the right way.

Note that gtar uses a big database that is needed at the dump side and that 
still does not hold enough data to let gtar work correctly.

Star on the other side just needs to remember dump dates and creates a full 
data base et extract side when doing incremental restores. This is also more 
reliable than what gtar does as all needed information for the restore is in 
the archives.


  If you like to discuss incrementals, you definitely need to discuss 
  behavior at
  restore time and restoring incrementals definitely does not work correclty 
  with
  gtar if you renamed directories.

 If that is the issue I recall, you can recover without losing data.

You are correct, you could in theory recover the data but this must be done 
manually. 

  Star is used to do incremental backups/restores on a dayly base in Berlios
  since September 2004. Since Spring 2005, not a single problem was seen, so
  there are more that 2500 successful incremental restores that verify no 
  problem
  even under stange conditions.

 So it all that time you have not mounted a new volume somewhere?  No
 remote backups of hosts where someone else might add space?  No one
 ever wanted to restore onto a different mount topology than the one
 where the backups were taken?   Being able to do those things is the
 reason I use tar instead of filesystem-dependent dump.

Star of course can do what you like. You just need to create more than one 
backup once you split filesystems. It would be easy to handle if you like to 
use it


  This problem is not caused by compression or not, it is a general gtar bug 
  that
  I reported in 1993 already. Nobody knows why it hits and the structure of 
  the
  gtar sources makes it really hard to debug this problem. The FSF was 
  interested
  to throw aywa gtar and replace it by star 10 years ago for this kind of
  problems in gtar.

 So, you have a repeatable test case for this and no one has looked
 into it?  That's surprising considering the number of people who have
 contributed to gnutar.   And what drove the decision not to adopt
 star?

I had a repeatable case in 1993, but at that time, I send them an archive 
created by star. In any case, there is more than one gtar user who would be 
able and willing to provide gtar archives that trigger that case. 

The reason for not adopting star was that RMS did send me a contract that was 
illegal in Europe and RMS was unwilling to convert his contract into something 
that I could legally sign.

BTW: there have been two attempts to replace gtar by star and both ended the 
same way.

  The following other problems are known with gtar:
 
  -       gtar is with aprox. 5% probability unable to read it's own
         continuation archives from multi volume archives. This cannot be 
  fixed
         as it is caused by the concept used for multi volume archives in 
  gtar.

 I assume you mean the version where you let the tape drive hit the
 end, not where you tell it the length.  Does star always work in that
 scenario?

As far as I can tell, yes. Star uses a completely different method to verify 
followup volumes and holds diffent sets of data that cannot cause this kind of 
failure. Gtar fails when it splits an archive at a location that is inside the 
(probably extended) tar header.

BTW: As star intentionally does not implement the verification method from 
gtar, star is able to restore such multi volume archives.


  -       gtar has much less features than star

 Unless you would like it to do incrementals properly across mount
 points... And I thought there was another reason regarding  features
 that amanda used gtar as well - maybe it was the ability to quickly
 estimate sizes of incrementals.  If it had worked for amanda, I would
 probably have been using it for ages.  When I looked at it, it
 couldn't because of missing features.  These days I mostly use
 backuppc with rsync as the transport since online access is so much
 nicer than tapes and rsync obviously excels at detecting differences
 in incrementals, but I suppose there is still a place for archives.

AFAIK, amanda has too few features or there are no people who are willing to 
put efforts in adopting to star.

I currently cannot believe that there 

Re: [CentOS] schily tools

2012-02-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Joerg Schilling
joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
 
  When I implemented incremental restores for star in September 2004, I 
  wrote a
  simple script for a incremental testcase and tested the deltas with
  ufsdump/ufsrestore, gtar and the star version at that time. Gtar was 
  unable to
  deal with my testcase, so I stopped testing it any further.

 My testcase for star was moving a subdirectory of what my backup runs
 covered onto a mounted volume.  Star failed and I stopped testing it
 any further.

 So you tried to do something that cannot work for a filesystem oriented 
 program.

It does work with GNUtar.

 This is not a problem from star but you just did not use star the right way.

No, star does not do what I need, so I don't use it at all.

 Note that gtar uses a big database that is needed at the dump side and that
 still does not hold enough data to let gtar work correctly.

How is it not correct?

 Star on the other side just needs to remember dump dates and creates a full
 data base et extract side when doing incremental restores.

So what happens when you don't exactly match the source mount tree
configuration when you try to restore?  You complain about GNUtar not
working in some special case - how is that worse than star not working
in the very common case of moving some mount points around?   I do
that all the time.  I don't think I've ever done the weird sequence
that causes trouble with a gnutar incremental restore.

 This is also more
 reliable than what gtar does as all needed information for the restore is in
 the archives.

Except when it isn't, because it is tied to the filesystem, not the
directory tree structure.  If I wanted filesystem dependencies I'd use
dump.  I expect tar to follow directory trees and be agnostic to mount
points.

  If you like to discuss incrementals, you definitely need to discuss 
  behavior at
  restore time and restoring incrementals definitely does not work correclty 
  with
  gtar if you renamed directories.

 If that is the issue I recall, you can recover without losing data.

 You are correct, you could in theory recover the data but this must be done
 manually.

How do you recover from the mount point change case for star?  If it
happens on the source side, do you lose data?

 So it all that time you have not mounted a new volume somewhere?  No
 remote backups of hosts where someone else might add space?  No one
 ever wanted to restore onto a different mount topology than the one
 where the backups were taken?   Being able to do those things is the
 reason I use tar instead of filesystem-dependent dump.

 Star of course can do what you like. You just need to create more than one
 backup once you split filesystems. It would be easy to handle if you like to
 use it

I handled it by pointing amanda at remote systems.  And I expected it
to keep those systems backed up even if someone else mounted some new
disks in places where they needed some more space.  I don't see how
star fits into that scheme.

 The reason for not adopting star was that RMS did send me a contract that was
 illegal in Europe and RMS was unwilling to convert his contract into something
 that I could legally sign.

Well, no one has ever accused RMS of being reasonable...

 And I thought there was another reason regarding  features
 that amanda used gtar as well - maybe it was the ability to quickly
 estimate sizes of incrementals.  If it had worked for amanda, I would
 probably have been using it for ages.  When I looked at it, it
 couldn't because of missing features.  These days I mostly use
 backuppc with rsync as the transport since online access is so much
 nicer than tapes and rsync obviously excels at detecting differences
 in incrementals, but I suppose there is still a place for archives.

 AFAIK, amanda has too few features or there are no people who are willing to
 put efforts in adopting to star.

Star simply does not do what amanda needs - or did not the last time I
looked.  Amanda needs a way to quickly estimate the size of a run for
its brilliant feature of automatically balancing the mix of fulls and
incrementals to ensure that you get at least an incremental of every
target every night plus a full within the number of tapes in your
rotation.  And it can't fail on incrementals just because someone
replaced a directory on a remote machine with a mount point.

 I currently cannot believe that there is really any important feature that is
 missing in star.

Those features obviously aren't important to you, but they are enough
to keep me - or any amanda user - from considering star.  And amanda
made things from several machines fit on my one non-changer tape drive
every night  for more than a decade with nothing on my part except
swapping the tape sometime during the day (and handled things
gracefully if I forgot).  I don't think there was any alternative that
could have worked as well.

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Re: [CentOS] about major version upgrades

2012-02-07 Thread Craig White

On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:38 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Craig White craig.wh...@ttiltd.com wrote:
 
 For this reason it is often better to upgrade more frequently then every 
 7-10 years. Personally I have a 5 year max lifetime for my systems. Even 
 then upgrades are painful and we try to stagger these so they all aren't 
 due to upgrade at once.
 
 if you think about it, perhaps you are making the case for using a 
 configuration management system like puppet where the configuration details 
 are more or less abstracted from the underlying OS itself. Thus once running 
 (and I'm not suggesting that it is a simple task), migrating servers from 
 CentOS 5.x to 6.x or perhaps to Debian or Ubuntu becomes a relatively simple 
 task as the configuration details come from the puppet server.
 
 If it is possible to abstract the differences, perhaps you aren't
 using all the new features and didn't have to upgrade after all...

I suppose that if you believe that, then you are suffering from a lack of 
imagination. I can deploy LDAP authentication setups to either Ubuntu or CentOS 
with the various pam, nss, padl files which are vastly different in no time.

some of the differences can be accounted for from within puppet itself but 
others - and I'm talking about actual config files - the differences can be 
handled from within the templated config files which have enough business logic 
to change the output to various needs or simply use different templates 
altogether.

Of course there is an investment to get to this stage and if you've only got a 
handful of servers to upgrade, it may not be worth it but there is the 
satisfaction of knowing the configuration files are ensured to be what you 
intended them to be - to the point of if someone makes changes by hand, they 
are automatically changed back.

I'm only expressing the notion that it is entirely possible to get beyond the 
paradigm of locked in server installs on iron that takes a lot of effort to 
maintain (ie, update/upgrade X number_of_servers). There are some very 
sophisticated configuration management system, chef looked good, I chose to go 
with puppet and I've been very pleased with the depth and scope of puppet.

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Re: [CentOS] about major version upgrades

2012-02-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Craig White craig.wh...@ttiltd.com wrote:


 If it is possible to abstract the differences, perhaps you aren't
 using all the new features and didn't have to upgrade after all...
 
 I suppose that if you believe that, then you are suffering from a lack of 
 imagination. I can deploy LDAP authentication setups to either Ubuntu or 
 CentOS with the various pam, nss, padl files which are vastly different in no 
 time.

How well does it handle windows?

 I'm only expressing the notion that it is entirely possible to get beyond the 
 paradigm of locked in server installs on iron that takes a lot of effort to 
 maintain (ie, update/upgrade X number_of_servers). There are some very 
 sophisticated configuration management system, chef looked good, I chose to 
 go with puppet and I've been very pleased with the depth and scope of puppet.

I'm actually very interested in this, but puppet did not look like the
right architecture.   http://saltstack.org/ might not be quite ready
for prime time but it looks like a very reasonable design.  The python
dependencies are probably going going to be painful for cross platform
installs but at least someone on its mail list has it working on
windows and there are already epel packages.

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Re: [CentOS] SSD Drives

2012-02-07 Thread Nataraj
On 02/02/2012 10:19 AM, Matt wrote:
 Has anyone installed a high I/O application such as an email server on
 SSD drives?  Was thinking about doing two SSD's in RAID1.  It would
 solve my I/O latency issues but I have heard that SSD's wear out
 quickly in high I/O situations?  Something like each memory location
 only has X many writes before its done.  Just wandering if anyone has
 tested it and if newer SSD's are better about this?
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Is this the best way to go?  Much of the recent mail software, postfix,
dovecot etc has features which make it easier to set up redundant
mailservers and distribute the load across them.  This will scale better
if your needs grow down the road.  SSD's tend to be rather costly,
especially if your storage needs are high.   I guess the main advantage
to a single server with SSD is lower power consumption.

What about RAID10?

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[CentOS] Centosplus src rpm

2012-02-07 Thread centos1
Hi all,

I'm looking for latest centosplus kernel source rpm , which should be
kernel-2.6.32-220.4.1.el6.centos.plus.src.rpm to date.
Maybe someone could provide a link to it?

Thank you
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Re: [CentOS] about major version upgrades

2012-02-07 Thread Craig White

On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:38 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Craig White craig.wh...@ttiltd.com wrote:
 
 
 If it is possible to abstract the differences, perhaps you aren't
 using all the new features and didn't have to upgrade after all...
 
 I suppose that if you believe that, then you are suffering from a lack of 
 imagination. I can deploy LDAP authentication setups to either Ubuntu or 
 CentOS with the various pam, nss, padl files which are vastly different in 
 no time.
 
 How well does it handle windows?

I haven't tried but I gather that at this stage, only a subset of features are 
working on Windows at this point. It does seem that they are committed to the 
platform though and have been adding features with each release.

 
 I'm only expressing the notion that it is entirely possible to get beyond 
 the paradigm of locked in server installs on iron that takes a lot of effort 
 to maintain (ie, update/upgrade X number_of_servers). There are some very 
 sophisticated configuration management system, chef looked good, I chose to 
 go with puppet and I've been very pleased with the depth and scope of puppet.
 
 I'm actually very interested in this, but puppet did not look like the
 right architecture.   http://saltstack.org/ might not be quite ready
 for prime time but it looks like a very reasonable design.  The python
 dependencies are probably going going to be painful for cross platform
 installs but at least someone on its mail list has it working on
 windows and there are already epel packages.

a different type of management system. Puppet  Chef are simply about 
configuration management.

Puppet architecture is pretty awesome - but the puppet master itself can't be a 
stock CentOS 5.x system because ruby 1.8.5 is too ancient. I suppose you can 
use Karanbir's ruby-1.8.7 packages (or better yet, enterprise ruby packages) if 
you insist on running the server on CentOS 5.x. The thing about puppet is that 
the barrier to entry is rather high - it takes some time before you get to 
something useful whereas Chef is more adept at putting other people's recipes 
into service fairly quickly. Then again, you will run into barriers with Chef 
that don't exist with puppet so it seemed that the ramp up investment had long 
term benefits.

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Re: [CentOS] Centosplus src rpm

2012-02-07 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 12:17 PM,  cent...@iotti.biz wrote:
 Hi all,

 I'm looking for latest centosplus kernel source rpm , which should be
 kernel-2.6.32-220.4.1.el6.centos.plus.src.rpm to date.
 Maybe someone could provide a link to it?

I'm afraid it's been forgotten. :(  I was told it would be pushed shortly.

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Re: [CentOS] Centosplus src rpm

2012-02-07 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, February 07, 2012 03:17:32 PM cent...@iotti.biz wrote:
 I'm looking for latest centosplus kernel source rpm , which should be
 kernel-2.6.32-220.4.1.el6.centos.plus.src.rpm to date.
 Maybe someone could provide a link to it?

Hmm, shouldn't it be:

http://vault.centos.org/6.2/centosplus/Source/SPackages/kernel-2.6.32-220.4.1.el6.centos.plus.src.rpm
 ?

Of course, that doesn't yet exist, even though that's where it should be when 
it gets there.
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[CentOS] Centos 5.6 3ware raid 5

2012-02-07 Thread Ken Smith
Hi, I've seen comments about the poor performance of these cards with 
raid 5 configs. I have an old card with 3 x 500G IDE drives connected in 
raid 5 and I'm getting around 10mb/s write performance. :-(

I'm seeing high iowait figures at times and associated very high cpu 
load average figures, probably because, under load, everything is 
stacked up waiting for the disks to actually do something.

A non-raid sata disk in the same machine manages 70mb/s

Does anyone know what the performance is like if I used the 3ware just 
as an IDE controller? I could then switch to software raid5?

Thanks

Ken

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[CentOS] R: Centosplus src rpm

2012-02-07 Thread centos1
 Da: centos-boun...@centos.org 
 [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] Per conto di Lamar Owen
 Inviato: martedì 7 febbraio 2012 21.40
 A: CentOS mailing list
 Oggetto: Re: [CentOS] Centosplus src rpm
 
 
 On Tuesday, February 07, 2012 03:17:32 PM cent...@iotti.biz wrote:
  I'm looking for latest centosplus kernel source rpm , which 
 should be
  kernel-2.6.32-220.4.1.el6.centos.plus.src.rpm to date.
  Maybe someone could provide a link to it?
 
 Hmm, shouldn't it be:
 

http://vault.centos.org/6.2/centosplus/Source/SPackages/kernel-2.6.32-220.4.
1.el6.centos.plus.src.rpm ?

 Of course, that doesn't yet exist, even though that's where it should be
when it gets there.

Indeed, I should have written Maybe someone could provide a WORKING link to
it?.




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Re: [CentOS] network intermitent, not sure if virtualization issue- in progress

2012-02-07 Thread Bob Hoffman
Last post on this, sorta solved.

original post:
---

I have a computer I am using to host a virtual machine.
Centos 6, for both, 64 bit.
The host machine's network connection seems fine. No problems.
Trying to access the virtual machine is usually fine.
but then, poof, ssh, http, ftp, all lose connection for about a minute.
Then they come back up.
I looked in all the logs on both machines, could find nothing, but not
sure where to look.
My question, would this be a setting on the VM as a webserver, some new
centos 6 setting that just
times out network when not in use? Or something that I did when I bonded
my eth ports and bridged them?
The bond covers the two onboard eth ports and one port from an add on
network card.
It is intermittent, seems to happen whenever, but service network
restart on the webserver
seems to fix it immediately, but it also just fixes itself too.
is there some setting with centos 6 that must be changed to allow
constant 'uptime' of the network?
--

I took out the bond and found that was the issue. works fine without it.
However, I also brought up a second vm and found something interesting.

1- with two vms, only one failed, the other stayed up 100% of the time.
2- second NIC card was not working well, but even taken out did not 
solve issue.
3- pinging system I found the vm that brought up vnet0 had the exact 
same pings as the host, the vnet1 vm had double.
4- no matter what order the vms were brought up, whichever got assigned 
libvirts vnet0 would fail, the other would not fail at all.

5- the ping of the host and the vnet0 assigned VM were exactly the same 
every time, the vnet1 vm was a little more than double that (12ms versus 
28ms).

6- the host never lost connection, but is using the same bridge and bond 
to connect.

It has become logical in my thought process that the host and the first 
vm are somehow in conflict, and the host winsvia the bond software. 
It seems like with vms, the host should not be connected to the bond and 
that might work. But I am way too over this to test it out.

Sharing the bridge and the bond makes me feel the first virtual machine 
brought up, assigned libvirt's vnet1 eventually lost some arp contest to 
the host.

A third vm was added, never failed if not brought up first, and had the 
same ping rate as the vnet1, double the host and the vnet0 virtual machine.

What is causing that is beyond my knowledge and is for experts on 
libivrt's vnet system, bond software, and possibly eth bridges. All I 
know is the host never failed even though it was using the same 
bond/bridge and maybe that is the real issue. In a vm environment maybe 
the host should have its on connection NOT on the bond shared by the VMs?

Using physical bridges may have confused bond with that first vm coming 
up.

well, that is a long couple weeks work. RIght now I am just going to 
assign the eths direct to the bridge and forget bonding as  really bad 
nightmare.
I hope someone tests this out a bit and comes up with a brilliant yet 
really techy solution.




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Re: [CentOS] about major version upgrades

2012-02-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Craig White craig.wh...@ttiltd.com wrote:


 I'm actually very interested in this, but puppet did not look like the
 right architecture.   http://saltstack.org/ might not be quite ready
 for prime time but it looks like a very reasonable design.  The python
 dependencies are probably going going to be painful for cross platform
 installs but at least someone on its mail list has it working on
 windows and there are already epel packages.
 
 a different type of management system. Puppet  Chef are simply about 
 configuration management.

So is salt, but scalable, and with the ability to make decisions based
on client state in more or less real time.  And even though it is
mostly or all python now, it really passes around data structures that
should allow other languages to be used.  It is still in early stages
but they claim to have converted some puppet installs easily.

 Puppet architecture is pretty awesome - but the puppet master itself can't be 
 a stock CentOS 5.x system because ruby 1.8.5 is too ancient. I suppose you 
 can use Karanbir's ruby-1.8.7 packages (or better yet, enterprise ruby 
 packages) if you insist on running the server on CentOS 5.x. The thing about 
 puppet is that the barrier to entry is rather high - it takes some time 
 before you get to something useful whereas Chef is more adept at putting 
 other people's recipes into service fairly quickly. Then again, you will run 
 into barriers with Chef that don't exist with puppet so it seemed that the 
 ramp up investment had long term benefits.

Ruby seems like the only thing that might be worse than python in
terms of long-term version incompatibilities and installation
problems, although python is sort-of a special case on RH systems
since the install tools need it.  I think something I wrote 20 years
ago should still run today, but maybe that's just me.  And I didn't
see any way to tier puppet masters or keep it from falling over with a
large number of clients.

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Re: [CentOS] about major version upgrades

2012-02-07 Thread Craig White

On Feb 7, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:

 Ruby seems like the only thing that might be worse than python in
 terms of long-term version incompatibilities and installation
 problems, although python is sort-of a special case on RH systems
 since the install tools need it.  I think something I wrote 20 years
 ago should still run today, but maybe that's just me.  And I didn't
 see any way to tier puppet masters or keep it from falling over with a
 large number of clients.

seems to me that a lot of the people who love perl also love ruby - learning 
curve is not steep.

puppet clients are forgiving - you can use stock ruby from CentOS 5

puppet manifests won't expire because of changes in ruby rather because of 
changes in puppet but a startup at this point should be fine for many years as 
the path forward seems pretty well defined.

There's a lot of scaling possibilities for puppet master and a single master 
should be able to handle 200-300 servers without much difficulty and there are 
organizations that scale well into the thousands on puppet but yes, that does 
require some sophistication. FWIW, I'm just a hair under 50 servers and I'm 
running the puppet master on a VMWare image of 768MB.

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Re: [CentOS] about major version upgrades

2012-02-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Craig White craig.wh...@ttiltd.com wrote:

 puppet manifests won't expire because of changes in ruby rather because of 
 changes in puppet but a startup at this point should be fine for many years 
 as the path forward seems pretty well defined.

Does it keep a self-contained library or is it subject to package
updates and future incompatibilities?  I don't know much about ruby
but the guy here who uses it wants nothing to do with packaged
versions or anything that will either be 'too old' or break things
with updates.   Things like that make me very nervous.  If today's and
yesterday's version of a language have to be different they were
probably both wrong.

 There's a lot of scaling possibilities for puppet master and a single master 
 should be able to handle 200-300 servers without much difficulty and there 
 are organizations that scale well into the thousands on puppet but yes, that 
 does require some sophistication. FWIW, I'm just a hair under 50 servers and 
 I'm running the puppet master on a VMWare image of 768MB.

I'd need it to do a couple thousand, across a bunch of platforms and
I'd rather not fight with it to get there.  I do have ocsinventory
agents reporting to a single server, but that's basically one http
post a day with randomized timing so not even close to the same
problem.   And the even bigger issue will be making it coordinate with
our 'human' process and scheduling controls.

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Re: [CentOS] about major version upgrades

2012-02-07 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, February 07, 2012 04:35:29 PM Les Mikesell wrote:
 If today's and
 yesterday's version of a language have to be different they were
 probably both wrong.

Like Python2.x versus 3.x?  Or even 2.4 versus 2.6?  Plone, for one, is still 
bundling older Python due to incompatibilities with Zope and newer Python.
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Re: [CentOS] about major version upgrades

2012-02-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote:
 On Tuesday, February 07, 2012 04:35:29 PM Les Mikesell wrote:
 If today's and
 yesterday's version of a language have to be different they were
 probably both wrong.

 Like Python2.x versus 3.x?  Or even 2.4 versus 2.6?  Plone, for one, is still 
 bundling older Python due to incompatibilities with Zope and newer Python.

Exactly, and without looking too closely ruby seems to be changing
even faster.  There is not going to be a perfect solution to this
problem, especially if you consider separately packaged libraries that
really have to change over time, but RPM needs to handle concurrent
multi-versioned targets gracefully or they should just change the name
when it is not the same language anymore and won't execute its own old
syntax so the packages don't conflict.

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Re: [CentOS] about major version upgrades

2012-02-07 Thread Craig White

On Feb 7, 2012, at 2:35 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Craig White craig.wh...@ttiltd.com wrote:
 
 puppet manifests won't expire because of changes in ruby rather because of 
 changes in puppet but a startup at this point should be fine for many years 
 as the path forward seems pretty well defined.
 
 Does it keep a self-contained library or is it subject to package
 updates and future incompatibilities?  I don't know much about ruby
 but the guy here who uses it wants nothing to do with packaged
 versions or anything that will either be 'too old' or break things
 with updates.   Things like that make me very nervous.  If today's and
 yesterday's version of a language have to be different they were
 probably both wrong.

we are very much a ruby factory here and pretty much use enterprise ruby across 
the board (CentOS  Ubuntu)

http://www.rubyenterpriseedition.com/

which is far from the newest but is entirely predictable and very performance 
tuned to running our web apps. Just seemed easier to use the same version 
across the board.

Puppet itself can work with any reasonable version of ruby...

- 1.8.7 to 1.9.3 /server (technically, you can run the puppet master on 1.8.5 
but that would pretty much preclude theforeman  dashboard, and I make heavy 
use of theforeman).

- 1.8.5+ /client

and so the changes in ruby language are really just a matter for puppet itself, 
which I would believe you would call it a self-contained library. The future is 
always difficult to predict and if I had that gift, I wouldn't be working but 
rather making a killing on sports bets.

theforeman takes puppet up a notch...
http://theforeman.org/

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Re: [CentOS] R: Centosplus src rpm

2012-02-07 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, February 07, 2012 03:57:36 PM cent...@iotti.biz wrote:
 Indeed, I should have written Maybe someone could provide a WORKING link to
 it?.

Now working at:
http://vault.centos.org/6.2/centosplus/Source/SPackages/kernel-2.6.32-220.4.1.el6.centos.plus.src.rpm
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[CentOS] TLS support on postfix

2012-02-07 Thread Kumar Krishna

Hi List,

I have a postfix server based on CentOS 5 in which I have been trying to add 
TLS encryption support for SMTP.

From the localhost when I do an EHLO, following is the output

[root@xxx ~]# nc localhost 25
220 xxx..xxx.xx ESMTP Postfix
EHLO localhost
250-xxx..xxx.xx
250-PIPELINING
250-SIZE 41943040
250-VRFY
250-ETRN
250-STARTTLS
250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
250-AUTH=PLAIN LOGIN
250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
250-8BITMIME
250 DSN

However from a remote location when I do the EHLO, the response does not 
contains STARTTLS, ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES and DSN

krishna@L03:~$ nc xxx..xxx.xx 25
220 xxx..xxx.xx ESMTP Postfix
EHLO localhost   
250-xxx..xxx.xx
250-PIPELINING
250-SIZE 41943040
250-VRFY
250-ETRN
250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
250 8BITMIME


I have done some googling and found this might be because of the Cisco Router's 
ESMTP Fix. However Can someone here tell me if there are any settings in 
master.cf or main.cf that might result in similar behaviour?

Regards,
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Re: [CentOS] TLS support on postfix

2012-02-07 Thread Nataraj
On 02/07/2012 04:50 PM, Kumar Krishna wrote:
 Hi List,

 I have a postfix server based on CentOS 5 in which I have been trying to add 
 TLS encryption support for SMTP.

 From the localhost when I do an EHLO, following is the output

 [root@xxx ~]# nc localhost 25
 220 xxx..xxx.xx ESMTP Postfix
 EHLO localhost
 250-xxx..xxx.xx
 250-PIPELINING
 250-SIZE 41943040
 250-VRFY
 250-ETRN
 250-STARTTLS
 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
 250-AUTH=PLAIN LOGIN
 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
 250-8BITMIME
 250 DSN

 However from a remote location when I do the EHLO, the response does not 
 contains STARTTLS, ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES and DSN

 krishna@L03:~$ nc xxx..xxx.xx 25
 220 xxx..xxx.xx ESMTP Postfix
 EHLO localhost   
 250-xxx..xxx.xx
 250-PIPELINING
 250-SIZE 41943040
 250-VRFY
 250-ETRN
 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
 250 8BITMIME


 I have done some googling and found this might be because of the Cisco 
 Router's ESMTP Fix. However Can someone here tell me if there are any 
 settings in master.cf or main.cf that might result in similar behaviour?

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From http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html

By default, TLS is disabled in the Postfix SMTP server, so no difference to 
plain Postfix is visible. Explicitly switch it on with 
smtpd_tls_security_level = may.
/etc/postfix/main.cf:
smtpd_tls_security_level = may

With this, the Postfix SMTP server announces STARTTLS support to remote SMTP 
clients, but does not require that clients use TLS encryption.



My tls configuration looks something like this:

# INCOMING TLS (smtpd server)
smtpd_tls_security_level = may
smtpd_note_starttls_offer = yes
smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/postfix/certs/tls.key
smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/postfix/certs/tls.crt
smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/certs/CAcert.crt
smtpd_tls_CApath = /etc/postfix/certs
smtpd_tls_loglevel = 1

smtpd_tls_session_cache_timeout = 3600s
tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom

# OUTGOING TLS (SMTP transport)
smtp_tls_loglevel = 1
smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:/var/run/smtp_tls_session_cache
smtp_tls_security_level = may
smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer = yes


Nataraj

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[CentOS] PCIe AER support in 5.5

2012-02-07 Thread Baylis, Neil
I have a question about getting PCIe advanced error reporting to work on 5.5.

The info I need to start with is the following:

1) Is PCIe Advanced Error Reporting (including error injections) known to work 
in 5.5?
2) What configuration options do I need to select in order to enable it?

I'm using the following configs:

CONFIG_ACPI=y
CONFIG_PCI=y
CONFIG_PCI_DIRECT=y
CONFIG_PCI_MMCONFIG=y
CONFIG_PCIEPORTBUS=y
CONFIG_PCIEAER=y
CONFIG_PCIE_ECRC=y
CONFIG_PCIE_AER_INJECT=y
CONFIG_PCI_DOMAINS=y
CONFIG_PCI_MSI=y

I also have the kernel boot parameter aerdriver.forceload=y

With this config, I see that the relevant devices appear to support Advanced 
Error Reporting (visible in lspci -v output).

However, when I attempt to inject errors to them the injections fail for 
various reasons. None of them (out of about a dozen candidate devices) 
succeeds. The aer_inject facility is currently the only means I have of testing 
this functionality. Note that on the same hardware with a RHEL-6 based (2.6.32) 
kernel, the injections work correctly. I need to make them also work with 5.5.

Before I go and track down those various errors, I want to verify that I have 
the right kernel and that it's configured correctly. The required code seems to 
be present in the kernel. I suspect there's something going wrong during driver 
initialization and device probing.

Once again, I need answers to these two specific questions:

1) Is PCIe Advanced Error Reporting (including error injections) known to work 
in 5.5?
2) What configuration options do I need to select in order to enable it?

Thanks,

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Re: [CentOS] my notes on bond, bridge, network, kvm, host and virtual so far

2012-02-07 Thread Devin Reade
I have no idea if this is the source of your problem (I wasn't using
bonded interfaces), but it's sufficiently similar that you might
want to try it.

I had a lot of problems with the network stack on VMs, both under
VMWare ESXi and Xen where the network would just go numb.  After a
lot of splunking I determined that it seemed to be related to 
faulty TCP segment offload.  Generally speaking, between the VM,
the virtual NICs, the hypervisor/host, and the physical network card, 
some levels figured that they'd offload segmentation handling to 
a lower layer, the lower layer wasn't doing it, and the upper layer
thought that it was.

Under low network load everything seemed fine but as the network
got pushed things would blow up and go numb.

Turning off TSO in the VM seemed to do the trick, although I think
in the Xen case I turned it off in the host as well.

The basic command is:  /sbin/ethtool -K ethX tso off

While I had the above command in rc.local, I would also run the
attached script in /etc/cron.hourly as there were some circumstances 
where tso would get reenabled.

Good luck

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Re: [CentOS] my notes on bond, bridge, network, kvm, host and virtual so far

2012-02-07 Thread Devin Reade
Devin Reade g...@gno.org wrote:

[...]
 While I had the above command in rc.local, I would also run the
 attached script in /etc/cron.hourly as there were some circumstances 
 where tso would get reenabled.

And in case attachments get stripped on the mailing list, you
can also get the script here:

ftp://ftp.gno.org/pub/tools/force-tso

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Re: [CentOS] my notes on bond, bridge, network, kvm, host and virtual so far

2012-02-07 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 02/06/2012 09:28 PM, Bob Hoffman wrote:
 I put this page together just so I won't spam the board anymore begging 
 for help..lol
 http://bobhoffman.com/vmissue.html

You're using bonding mode 0, which may not work when attached to a
bridge.  Try changing to mode 1 and playing with the cables.  If every-
thing works with mode 1, you've got an idea on where to focus.

As far as active/active bonding modes go, I know that mode 4 (LACP) is
supposed to work, but that requires support on the switch(es).

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Re: [CentOS] TLS support on postfix

2012-02-07 Thread Kumar Krishna
On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:04:03 -0800
Nataraj incoming-cen...@rjl.com wrote:

 On 02/07/2012 04:50 PM, Kumar Krishna wrote:
  Hi List,
 
  I have a postfix server based on CentOS 5 in which I have been
  trying to add TLS encryption support for SMTP.
 
  From the localhost when I do an EHLO, following is the output
 
  [root@xxx ~]# nc localhost 25
  220 xxx..xxx.xx ESMTP Postfix
  EHLO localhost
  250-xxx..xxx.xx
  250-PIPELINING
  250-SIZE 41943040
  250-VRFY
  250-ETRN
  250-STARTTLS
  250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
  250-AUTH=PLAIN LOGIN
  250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
  250-8BITMIME
  250 DSN
 
  However from a remote location when I do the EHLO, the response
  does not contains STARTTLS, ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES and DSN
 
  krishna@L03:~$ nc xxx..xxx.xx 25
  220 xxx..xxx.xx ESMTP Postfix
  EHLO localhost   
  250-xxx..xxx.xx
  250-PIPELINING
  250-SIZE 41943040
  250-VRFY
  250-ETRN
  250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
  250 8BITMIME
 
 
  I have done some googling and found this might be because of the
  Cisco Router's ESMTP Fix. However Can someone here tell me if
  there are any settings in master.cf or main.cf that might result in
  similar behaviour?
 
  Regards,
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 From http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html
 
 By default, TLS is disabled in the Postfix SMTP server, so no
 difference to plain Postfix is visible. Explicitly switch it on with
 smtpd_tls_security_level = may. /etc/postfix/main.cf:
 smtpd_tls_security_level = may
 
 With this, the Postfix SMTP server announces STARTTLS support to
 remote SMTP clients, but does not require that clients use TLS
 encryption.
 
 
 
 My tls configuration looks something like this:
 
 # INCOMING TLS (smtpd server)
 smtpd_tls_security_level = may
 smtpd_note_starttls_offer = yes
 smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/postfix/certs/tls.key
 smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/postfix/certs/tls.crt
 smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/certs/CAcert.crt
 smtpd_tls_CApath = /etc/postfix/certs
 smtpd_tls_loglevel = 1
 
 smtpd_tls_session_cache_timeout = 3600s
 tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom
 
 # OUTGOING TLS (SMTP transport)
 smtp_tls_loglevel = 1
 smtp_tls_session_cache_database =
 btree:/var/run/smtp_tls_session_cache smtp_tls_security_level = may
 smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer = yes
 
 
 Nataraj

Thanks for the reply Nataraj, but still no joy. I tried adding 
'smtp_tls_security_level = may'  'smtpd_tls_security_level = may' to my 
existing configuration, but it didn't helped.
Any ideas what else I might need to change in the configuration?

Here is how my configuration looks like

#ENCRYPTION
#==#
# Incoming
smtpd_tls_auth_only = no
smtpd_note_starttls_offer = yes
smtpd_use_tls = yes
smtpd_tls_security_level = may
smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/postfix/ssl/smtpd.key
smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/postfix/ssl/smtpd.crt
smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/ssl/cacert.pem
smtpd_tls_loglevel = 1
smtpd_tls_session_cache_timeout = 3600s
smtpd_tls_received_header = yes
tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom

# Outgoing
smtp_use_tls = yes
smtp_tls_loglevel = 1
smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer = yes
smtp_tls_security_level = may

Regards,
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Re: [CentOS] TLS support on postfix

2012-02-07 Thread Nataraj
On 02/07/2012 09:50 PM, Kumar Krishna wrote:
 On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:04:03 -0800
 Nataraj incoming-cen...@rjl.com wrote:

 On 02/07/2012 04:50 PM, Kumar Krishna wrote:
 Hi List,

 I have a postfix server based on CentOS 5 in which I have been
 trying to add TLS encryption support for SMTP.

 From the localhost when I do an EHLO, following is the output

 [root@xxx ~]# nc localhost 25
 220 xxx..xxx.xx ESMTP Postfix
 EHLO localhost
 250-xxx..xxx.xx
 250-PIPELINING
 250-SIZE 41943040
 250-VRFY
 250-ETRN
 250-STARTTLS
 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
 250-AUTH=PLAIN LOGIN
 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
 250-8BITMIME
 250 DSN

 However from a remote location when I do the EHLO, the response
 does not contains STARTTLS, ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES and DSN

 krishna@L03:~$ nc xxx..xxx.xx 25
 220 xxx..xxx.xx ESMTP Postfix
 EHLO localhost   
 250-xxx..xxx.xx
 250-PIPELINING
 250-SIZE 41943040
 250-VRFY
 250-ETRN
 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
 250 8BITMIME


 I have done some googling and found this might be because of the
 Cisco Router's ESMTP Fix. However Can someone here tell me if
 there are any settings in master.cf or main.cf that might result in
 similar behaviour?

 Regards,
 KRiSHNA
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 From http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html

 By default, TLS is disabled in the Postfix SMTP server, so no
 difference to plain Postfix is visible. Explicitly switch it on with
 smtpd_tls_security_level = may. /etc/postfix/main.cf:
 smtpd_tls_security_level = may

 With this, the Postfix SMTP server announces STARTTLS support to
 remote SMTP clients, but does not require that clients use TLS
 encryption.



 My tls configuration looks something like this:

 # INCOMING TLS (smtpd server)
 smtpd_tls_security_level = may
 smtpd_note_starttls_offer = yes
 smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/postfix/certs/tls.key
 smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/postfix/certs/tls.crt
 smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/certs/CAcert.crt
 smtpd_tls_CApath = /etc/postfix/certs
 smtpd_tls_loglevel = 1

 smtpd_tls_session_cache_timeout = 3600s
 tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom

 # OUTGOING TLS (SMTP transport)
 smtp_tls_loglevel = 1
 smtp_tls_session_cache_database =
 btree:/var/run/smtp_tls_session_cache smtp_tls_security_level = may
 smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer = yes


 Nataraj
 Thanks for the reply Nataraj, but still no joy. I tried adding 
 'smtp_tls_security_level = may'  'smtpd_tls_security_level = may' to my 
 existing configuration, but it didn't helped.
 Any ideas what else I might need to change in the configuration?

 Here is how my configuration looks like

 #ENCRYPTION
 #==#
 # Incoming
 smtpd_tls_auth_only = no
 smtpd_note_starttls_offer = yes
 smtpd_use_tls = yes
 smtpd_tls_security_level = may
 smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/postfix/ssl/smtpd.key
 smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/postfix/ssl/smtpd.crt
 smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/ssl/cacert.pem
 smtpd_tls_loglevel = 1
 smtpd_tls_session_cache_timeout = 3600s
 smtpd_tls_received_header = yes
 tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom

 # Outgoing
 smtp_use_tls = yes
 smtp_tls_loglevel = 1
 smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer = yes
 smtp_tls_security_level = may

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Did you reload the configuration with 'postfix reload' or 'service
postfix restart' after updating your config file?

Have you setup certificates?  I suggest you read
http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html
If you think you've set everything up correctly, run the command
'postconf -n | grep tls' and post the output.  You might also check the
archives of the postfix mailing list.  I'm sure there are extensive
postings for issues like this.

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Re: [CentOS] TLS support on postfix

2012-02-07 Thread Kumar Krishna
On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:04:03 -0800
Nataraj incoming-cen...@rjl.com wrote:

 On 02/07/2012 04:50 PM, Kumar Krishna wrote:
  Hi List,
 
  I have a postfix server based on CentOS 5 in which I have been
  trying to add TLS encryption support for SMTP.
 
  From the localhost when I do an EHLO, following is the output
 
  [root@xxx ~]# nc localhost 25
  220 xxx..xxx.xx ESMTP Postfix
  EHLO localhost
  250-xxx..xxx.xx
  250-PIPELINING
  250-SIZE 41943040
  250-VRFY
  250-ETRN
  250-STARTTLS
  250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
  250-AUTH=PLAIN LOGIN
  250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
  250-8BITMIME
  250 DSN
 
  However from a remote location when I do the EHLO, the response
  does not contains STARTTLS, ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES and DSN
 
  krishna@L03:~$ nc xxx..xxx.xx 25
  220 xxx..xxx.xx ESMTP Postfix
  EHLO localhost   
  250-xxx..xxx.xx
  250-PIPELINING
  250-SIZE 41943040
  250-VRFY
  250-ETRN
  250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
  250 8BITMIME
 
 
  I have done some googling and found this might be because of the
  Cisco Router's ESMTP Fix. However Can someone here tell me if
  there are any settings in master.cf or main.cf that might result in
  similar behaviour?
 
  Regards,
  KRiSHNA
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 From http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html
 
 By default, TLS is disabled in the Postfix SMTP server, so no
 difference to plain Postfix is visible. Explicitly switch it on with
 smtpd_tls_security_level = may. /etc/postfix/main.cf:
 smtpd_tls_security_level = may
 
 With this, the Postfix SMTP server announces STARTTLS support to
 remote SMTP clients, but does not require that clients use TLS
 encryption.
 
 
 
 My tls configuration looks something like this:
 
 # INCOMING TLS (smtpd server)
 smtpd_tls_security_level = may
 smtpd_note_starttls_offer = yes
 smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/postfix/certs/tls.key
 smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/postfix/certs/tls.crt
 smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/certs/CAcert.crt
 smtpd_tls_CApath = /etc/postfix/certs
 smtpd_tls_loglevel = 1
 
 smtpd_tls_session_cache_timeout = 3600s
 tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom
 
 # OUTGOING TLS (SMTP transport)
 smtp_tls_loglevel = 1
 smtp_tls_session_cache_database =
 btree:/var/run/smtp_tls_session_cache smtp_tls_security_level = may
 smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer = yes
 
 
 Nataraj
 

Yes, I did restarted postfix.
I ran tcpdump on the mail server while connecting to it from a remote location 
and then analysed the dump file. It seems that the server is working fine and 
offering STARTTLS, but the Cisco Router en route is messing things up.

Regards,
KRiSHNA

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Re: [CentOS] TLS support on postfix

2012-02-07 Thread Nataraj
On 02/07/2012 09:50 PM, Kumar Krishna wrote:
 On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:04:03 -0800
 Nataraj incoming-cen...@rjl.com wrote:

 On 02/07/2012 04:50 PM, Kumar Krishna wrote:
 Hi List,

 I have a postfix server based on CentOS 5 in which I have been
 trying to add TLS encryption support for SMTP.

 From the localhost when I do an EHLO, following is the output

 [root@xxx ~]# nc localhost 25
 220 xxx..xxx.xx ESMTP Postfix
 EHLO localhost
 250-xxx..xxx.xx
 250-PIPELINING
 250-SIZE 41943040
 250-VRFY
 250-ETRN
 250-STARTTLS
 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
 250-AUTH=PLAIN LOGIN
 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
 250-8BITMIME
 250 DSN

 However from a remote location when I do the EHLO, the response
 does not contains STARTTLS, ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES and DSN

 krishna@L03:~$ nc xxx..xxx.xx 25
 220 xxx..xxx.xx ESMTP Postfix
 EHLO localhost   
 250-xxx..xxx.xx
 250-PIPELINING
 250-SIZE 41943040
 250-VRFY
 250-ETRN
 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
 250 8BITMIME


 I have done some googling and found this might be because of the
 Cisco Router's ESMTP Fix. However Can someone here tell me if
 there are any settings in master.cf or main.cf that might result in
 similar behaviour?

 Regards,
 KRiSHNA
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 From http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html

 By default, TLS is disabled in the Postfix SMTP server, so no
 difference to plain Postfix is visible. Explicitly switch it on with
 smtpd_tls_security_level = may. /etc/postfix/main.cf:
 smtpd_tls_security_level = may

 With this, the Postfix SMTP server announces STARTTLS support to
 remote SMTP clients, but does not require that clients use TLS
 encryption.



 My tls configuration looks something like this:

 # INCOMING TLS (smtpd server)
 smtpd_tls_security_level = may
 smtpd_note_starttls_offer = yes
 smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/postfix/certs/tls.key
 smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/postfix/certs/tls.crt
 smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/certs/CAcert.crt
 smtpd_tls_CApath = /etc/postfix/certs
 smtpd_tls_loglevel = 1

 smtpd_tls_session_cache_timeout = 3600s
 tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom

 # OUTGOING TLS (SMTP transport)
 smtp_tls_loglevel = 1
 smtp_tls_session_cache_database =
 btree:/var/run/smtp_tls_session_cache smtp_tls_security_level = may
 smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer = yes


 Nataraj
 Thanks for the reply Nataraj, but still no joy. I tried adding 
 'smtp_tls_security_level = may'  'smtpd_tls_security_level = may' to my 
 existing configuration, but it didn't helped.
 Any ideas what else I might need to change in the configuration?

 Here is how my configuration looks like

 #ENCRYPTION
 #==#
 # Incoming
 smtpd_tls_auth_only = no
 smtpd_note_starttls_offer = yes
 smtpd_use_tls = yes
 smtpd_tls_security_level = may
 smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/postfix/ssl/smtpd.key
 smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/postfix/ssl/smtpd.crt
 smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/ssl/cacert.pem
 smtpd_tls_loglevel = 1
 smtpd_tls_session_cache_timeout = 3600s
 smtpd_tls_received_header = yes
 tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom

 # Outgoing
 smtp_use_tls = yes
 smtp_tls_loglevel = 1
 smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer = yes
 smtp_tls_security_level = may

 Regards,
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It is also possible to configure postfix so that it uses TLS but does
not announce the availability of STARTTLS.
If somebody did this on your system you would have 
smtpd_tls_wrappermode=yes somewhere in your master.cf file, something
like this.

/etc/postfix/master.cf:

smtpsinet  n   -   n   -   -   smtpd  -o 
smtpd_tls_wrappermode=yes

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Re: [CentOS] my notes on bond, bridge, network, kvm, host and virtual so far

2012-02-07 Thread Devin Reade
Although it was written in the context of Xen, you might also want to have a
look at the netloop nloopbacks parameter as described in
http://www.novell.com/communities/node/4094/xen-network-bridges-explained-with-troubleshooting-notes.
On a Xen cluster with 3 physical interfaces per node I had to increase
that parameter to keep interfaces from going numb.

I don't know how this translates to the libvirt/kvm world.

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