Re: [CentOS] Firefox 45.1.0 stability

[Valeri Galtsev]

On Sat, May 7, 2016 6:38 pm, Always Learning wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2016-05-06 at 16:44 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>
>> Nux! wrote:
>> > Guys if you are using my repo on CentOS 6 then the new Firefox might
>> not
>> > like the old ffmpeg I ship.
>
>> Nope.
>>
>> Yes, I'm on CentOS 6, but as this is a US federal organization (civil
>> sector), I did ask, and was told no repos Over There. Security
>> issues

The same (their answer I mean) will probably apply to CentOS itself, will
it? Where CentOS headquarters are situated, where CentOS team members
live? And the same will apply to majority of open source systems, many BSD
flavors will fall under the same category. My answer (to myself) is: I do
trust open source. Be it closed source, then the company ownership would
matter. But with open source, developers situated in Russia (where the KGB
is which I'm awfully scared of) have my full trust as the ones living in
US (where NSA is situated which I'm scared of no less). I though have no
idea if at all I would be able to find right argument when told something
by government bureaucrats.

Valeri

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Re: [CentOS] Firefox 45.1.0 stability

[Always Learning]

On Fri, 2016-05-06 at 16:44 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

> Nux! wrote:
> > Guys if you are using my repo on CentOS 6 then the new Firefox might not
> > like the old ffmpeg I ship.

> Nope.
> 
> Yes, I'm on CentOS 6, but as this is a US federal organization (civil
> sector), I did ask, and was told no repos Over There. Security issues

Romania has been a EU member State since 1 January 2007. 



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Re: [CentOS] Firefox 45.1.0 stability

[Alice Wonder]

On 05/07/2016 11:14 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:



I usually include it into my rant, I forgot this time. No google chrome
for me, thank you very much. Nothing google to a degree possible. I don't
like my everything going to google (and NSA and whichever others)
databases. I know that 50% of my e-mail end up in googlemail anyway, like
this one definitely will, still...

Thanks for the hint though. It will help those who don't care to be
watched after like [those regimes all of us can name themselves]

Valeri


LOL!

Google use to say "Don't be Evil"

So the motto of a new service I am trying to start =

"Don't be G**gl*"

(I'm hoping the * is enough, but I'm not a lawyer, I think it would be 
okay under parody use anyway but...)

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 and 4K display

[Jon Forrest]

On Windows (completely different software I know)
I've never been able to get 4K monitors to work
using HDMI 1.2. They always max out at 1080. Simply
using DisplayPort, everything else being equal,
fixes the problem. Same on Macs.

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Re: [CentOS] Firefox 45.1.0 stability

[Bill Maltby (C4B)]

On Fri, 2016-05-06 at 21:32 +0100, Nux! wrote:
> Guys if you are using my repo on CentOS 6 then the new Firefox might not like 
> the old ffmpeg I ship.
> 
> There is new and apparently working stuff in my testing repo; try to upgrade 
> and see if that solves the problem.
> Feedback welcome so I can move the testing packages in the main repo sooner, 
> rather than later.
> 
> yum --enablerepo=nux-dextop-testing update ffmpeg
> 

Got it on my primary box and fired everything up. Same sorts of tests as
on the other bo produced only one aggravation - slow response.

I don't think this is related to your stuff though. I tend to have nay
windows open with many tabs in each FF window and I think I'm just
overloading it.

Sites try to "push" content, which I don't allow, pop-up adds, which I
don't allow, ...

Couldn't get the Flash plugin to work on that login - suspected the
load. So I switched to another login, went to Bloomberg.tv, which
delivers content in flash, and all worked just fine.

So AFAICT, your new stuff is GTG for me.

Bill

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Re: [CentOS] Firefox 45.1.0 stability

[Valeri Galtsev]

On Sat, May 7, 2016 12:07 pm, m...@tdiehl.org wrote:
> On Fri, 6 May 2016, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
>>
>> On Fri, May 6, 2016 1:54 pm, Jeff Layton wrote:
>>> Good afternoon,
>>>
>>> Apologies if this topic has come up before but I've found
>>> that the Firefox 45.1.0 stability to be somewhat lacking.
>>
>> 
>> I've found that about Firefox in general some 5 years ago. Or rather
>> "releases" that seem never have been debugged before the release. But I
>> still have not found decent replacements for it. I've tried, trust me
>> ;-(
>> 
>
> After years of FF changing things in not good ways (the current way the
> back
> button behaves was the last straw), I was finally able to switch to chrome
> on
> C-6 using the directions found @ http://chrome.richardlloyd.org.uk/
> (thanks to
> Richard Lloyd for figuring this out)
>
> It works so well I have not looked back. Is Chrome perfect, not at all BUT
> it
> is way more stable then FireFox has been for years now.

I usually include it into my rant, I forgot this time. No google chrome
for me, thank you very much. Nothing google to a degree possible. I don't
like my everything going to google (and NSA and whichever others)
databases. I know that 50% of my e-mail end up in googlemail anyway, like
this one definitely will, still...

Thanks for the hint though. It will help those who don't care to be
watched after like [those regimes all of us can name themselves]

Valeri


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Re: [CentOS] Firefox 45.1.0 stability

[Michael Hennebry]

On Sat, 7 May 2016, Michael Hennebry wrote:


On Sat, 7 May 2016, Liam O'Toole wrote:


On 2016-05-06, Nux!  wrote:

Guys if you are using my repo on CentOS 6 then the new Firefox might
not like the old ffmpeg I ship.

There is new and apparently working stuff in my testing repo; try to
upgrade and see if that solves the problem.  Feedback welcome so I can
move the testing packages in the main repo sooner, rather than later.

yum --enablerepo=nux-dextop-testing update ffmpeg

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That fixed it for me. Many thanks.


My Firefox ESR 45.1.0 on CentOS 6 crashes a lot,
usually while I am scrolling.
So far as I can tell, I'm not using ffmpeg lately.
Is this still likely to help?


This time it crashed when I tried to close a tab.
Don't know if it worked.

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Re: [CentOS] Firefox 45.1.0 stability

[me]

On Fri, 6 May 2016, Valeri Galtsev wrote:



On Fri, May 6, 2016 1:54 pm, Jeff Layton wrote:

Good afternoon,

Apologies if this topic has come up before but I've found
that the Firefox 45.1.0 stability to be somewhat lacking.



I've found that about Firefox in general some 5 years ago. Or rather
"releases" that seem never have been debugged before the release. But I
still have not found decent replacements for it. I've tried, trust me ;-(



After years of FF changing things in not good ways (the current way the back
button behaves was the last straw), I was finally able to switch to chrome on
C-6 using the directions found @ http://chrome.richardlloyd.org.uk/ (thanks to
Richard Lloyd for figuring this out)

It works so well I have not looked back. Is Chrome perfect, not at all BUT it
is way more stable then FireFox has been for years now.

Just my $.02

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Re: [CentOS] Firefox 45.1.0 stability

[Bill Maltby (C4B)]

On Fri, 2016-05-06 at 21:32 +0100, Nux! wrote:
> Guys if you are using my repo on CentOS 6 then the new Firefox might not like 
> the old ffmpeg I ship.
> 
> There is new and apparently working stuff in my testing repo; try to upgrade 
> and see if that solves the problem.
> Feedback welcome so I can move the testing packages in the main repo sooner, 
> rather than later.
> 
> yum --enablerepo=nux-dextop-testing update ffmpeg

Installed on my box I normally remote into via RealVNC and gave it a
good woorkout (for me anyway).

Looks good. Couldn't yet test with a Flash video but did test with
whatever youtube is now providing.

Fired up all the FF windows and did things I normally do and a couple
extras - still looks good.

Only difference is the data feed from Investorshub isn't streaming live
data, but it did pring up the last of Friday's stuff in three tabs,
which is the normal weekend behavior.

I'm going to put it on my primary box now - I expect similar good
results.

Bill

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Re: [CentOS] Firefox 45.1.0 stability

[Michael Hennebry]

On Sat, 7 May 2016, Liam O'Toole wrote:


On 2016-05-06, Nux!  wrote:

Guys if you are using my repo on CentOS 6 then the new Firefox might
not like the old ffmpeg I ship.

There is new and apparently working stuff in my testing repo; try to
upgrade and see if that solves the problem.  Feedback welcome so I can
move the testing packages in the main repo sooner, rather than later.

yum --enablerepo=nux-dextop-testing update ffmpeg

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Nux!  www.nux.ro


That fixed it for me. Many thanks.


My Firefox ESR 45.1.0 on CentOS 6 crashes a lot,
usually while I am scrolling.
So far as I can tell, I'm not using ffmpeg lately.
Is this still likely to help?

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Re: [CentOS] resize lvm

[Wes James]

On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 7:57 AM, Robert Nichols 
wrote:

> On 05/06/2016 02:15 PM, Wes James wrote:
>
>> I found this:
>>
>> # lvextend -l +100%FREE /dev/myvg/testlv
>>
>> doing a search.  What's the difference between 100%VG and 100%FREE?
>>
>
> For the special case of "100%" there is no difference. For values
> less than 100% with a non-empty VG, the two are quite different,
> e.g., (50% of VG) != (50% of the free space in VG).
>

Thanks.  This is the first time I'm worked with the lvm commands.  I
thought VG was a typo for GB, but I see in the help commands for lvm:
lvdisplay and vgdisplay - vg is volume group.

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Re: [CentOS] C6 Firefox 45.1 segmentation faults

[Bill Maltby (C4B)]

On Fri, 2016-05-06 at 10:02 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 05/02/2016 04:43 PM, Bill Maltby (C4B) wrote:
> > On Mon, 2016-05-02 at 14:06 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> >> On 05/02/2016 01:46 PM, Bill Maltby (C4B) wrote:
> >> 
> > 
>  Anyone else experiencing unstable behaviour of FF 45.1 on C6?
> >>>
> >>> Day it was out I got the same. Since I already had some difficulties
> >>> with RH6/C6 upgrades changing the way things worked (or didn't, such as
> >>> telinit), I just did a yum downgrade FF and and kept using my tools as
> >>> tools.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Well, that update is critical for security, so I would try to help find
> >> the issues (we can feed back to RH and help them fix) .. rather than
> >> using something with critical security issues to browse the web.
> > 
> > I would like to, but since CentOS got integrated with RH I got the
> > feeling that a non-CentOS problem didn't get help here?
> > 
> 
> Nothing has changed .. we never fixed non CentOS problems and rolled

That part is as I remeber it. What I was remembering is that a possible
bug would get reported, interaction possibly requesting more info would
occur, and someone would possibly confirm and issue. The either the OP
or CentOS flks(?) would post a bug in CentoS for tracking and someone
would post a bug at RH, etc.

As mentione in my post, my memory could be faulty, but what I just
described is how I remeber it working.

Then if RH fixed it the usual would occur.

> those into the main tree.  We have (and still do .. see
> http://people.centos.org/hughesjr/firefox-45.1.0-1.1.el5.centos/) ..
> sometimes provide some temporary things while fixes are being done by
> the outstanding RHEL engineers to fix issues.


> > With the upgrade to ... 6.6 I, and others, reported problems with X vs.
> > run-level changes causing issues.
> > 
> > Starting here
> > https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2014-November/148180.html
> > 
> > Dec 7 2014 bug report: https://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=7972
> > 
> > Nothing happened even though I took the time to post a bug and collect
> > pertinent data and things discovered into a pastebin file with links for
> > everything.
> > 
> > So I made a guess that sans a RH subscription I had no way to pursue a
> > non-CentOS issue.
> 
> If one finds that there is a non-CentOS caused issue (but it is a RHEL
> issue), then they can open a bug on bugzilla.redhat.com.  If you don't
> have a RHEL subscription, it might be better if someone else opens the
> bug there, but someone from the community who can verify it is a RHEL
> bug can certainly open up a report.  The RH Engineers want to make RHEL
> better, they want to fix real issues.  There will obviously NOT be any
> kind of SLA to get it fixed by a deadline, but they absolutely want to
> fix RHEL issues.

This is the part that, *if* my memory was correct, seems to have changed
in that ISTR CentOS folks and/or other community members would have done
what my memory (described above) describes and we would have seen a
follow-up with a bug opened at RH.

I can't emphasize enough, it's from my memoery of what used to occur.

> 
> That is the actually the whole point of bugs.centos.org.  We need 'the
> community' to look at bugs.centos.org and see if they can determine if
> bugs are CentOS related or RHEL related.  If RHEL related, opening bugs
> on bugzilla.redhat.com.  If CentOS related, help us fix them and test
> them, etc. by creating patches.
One additional person was kind enough to update my CentOS bug report
confirming the same problem. That was the last action AFAICT though.

> 
> We only have 5 total people on the CentOS team to do things. 

> Then there is all the cloud image things going on so there are cloud
> images for AWS, Oracle, Azure, vagrant boxes, docker images, vendor
> clouds, etc. etc. etc.

Don't misunderstand - the contribution you and all the CentOS members
make is invaluable and well appreciated by me. It is one of the primary
reasons I choose CentOS.

The only point of my original post about the lack of follow up on the
bug I posted was that it *appeared* that the behavior when a bug was
reported *may* have changed (keeping in mind possibly faulty memory by
me).

> 
> The bottom line is .. CentOS needs community members, like our
> outstanding QA team and Forum Moderators (thanks guys and girls !!!) to
> be able to make things better.  We need those community members to do
> lots of things.
> 
> All the mailing list, forums, bugs databases .. they are all there to
> help facilitate for 'the community' to help itself and make CentOS Linux
> better .. by making RHEL better.  If you can also use CentOS Linux for
> things that you want and it works for you, excellent.  It is open source
> and free and that is what its for.
> 
> 
> 
> In the case of this particular issue , it seems to 


> We want other things, even things in CentOS Linux where the issue is in
> RHEL. to be handled the same way as this issue.  Start a discussion on
> the 

Re: [CentOS] Reduce existing CentOS 7 installation to "Minimal install" - services?

[Nicolas Kovacs]

Le 07/05/2016 16:02, Peter a écrit :
> Yes, but you need to put the yum shell commands in a separate file.  See
> yum-shell(8) for details.

Actually, I just gave your suggestion a spin on a sandbox machine. Yum
gets stuck in a frantic dependency resolving loop which can only be
interrupted by hitting Ctrl-C.

So it looks like my solution is the better one.

:o)

Niki

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Re: [CentOS] Reduce existing CentOS 7 installation to "Minimal install" - services?

[Peter]

On 08/05/16 01:53, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> Le 07/05/2016 14:57, Peter a écrit :
>> Rather than remove them and add them back use yum shell to just remove
>> the packages not in base or core:
>>
>> yum shell
>> remove *
>> install kernel @core @base
>> run
>> quit
> 
> Sounds interesting. Does this work in a script?

Yes, but you need to put the yum shell commands in a separate file.  See
yum-shell(8) for details.


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Re: [CentOS] resize lvm

[Robert Nichols]

On 05/06/2016 02:15 PM, Wes James wrote:

I found this:

# lvextend -l +100%FREE /dev/myvg/testlv

doing a search.  What's the difference between 100%VG and 100%FREE?


For the special case of "100%" there is no difference. For values
less than 100% with a non-empty VG, the two are quite different,
e.g., (50% of VG) != (50% of the free space in VG).

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Re: [CentOS] Reduce existing CentOS 7 installation to "Minimal install" - services?

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Le 07/05/2016 14:57, Peter a écrit :
> Rather than remove them and add them back use yum shell to just remove
> the packages not in base or core:
> 
> yum shell
> remove *
> install kernel @core @base
> run
> quit

Sounds interesting. Does this work in a script?

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Re: [CentOS] resize lvm

[Robert Nichols]

On 05/06/2016 01:42 PM, John R Pierce wrote:

On 5/6/2016 11:39 AM, Wes James wrote:

file -s /dev/dm-0



and it says XFS



So would I use xfs_growfs?


bingo!xfs_growfs can be used with the file system online, I'm pretty
sure resize2fs requires the file system to be offline (unmounted).


Online expansion of a filesystem is allowed by resize2fs. It is only for 
shrinking that being offline and running fsck is required.


xfs does not allow shrinking at all.

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Re: [CentOS] Firefox 45.1.0 stability

[Liam O'Toole]

On 2016-05-06, Nux!  wrote:
> Guys if you are using my repo on CentOS 6 then the new Firefox might
> not like the old ffmpeg I ship.
>
> There is new and apparently working stuff in my testing repo; try to
> upgrade and see if that solves the problem.  Feedback welcome so I can
> move the testing packages in the main repo sooner, rather than later.
>
> yum --enablerepo=nux-dextop-testing update ffmpeg
>
> -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>
> Nux!  www.nux.ro

That fixed it for me. Many thanks.

>
> - Original Message -
>> From: "m roth" 
>> To: "CentOS mailing list" 
>> Sent: Friday, 6 May, 2016 21:20:15
>> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Firefox 45.1.0 stability
>
>> Alice Wonder wrote:
>>> On 05/06/2016 11:54 AM, Jeff Layton wrote:
 Good afternoon,

 Apologies if this topic has come up before but I've found
 that the Firefox 45.1.0 stability to be somewhat lacking.

 For example, I can't use it for Twitter because it crashes.
 It also crashes when I log into gmail. This happens every
 time I try these URL's.

 Any suggestions on improving the stability?
>>>
>>> It has not crashed on twitter at all for me.
>>>
>>> I do run privacy badger on Twitter which blocks a lot of resources that
>>> want to track me, maybe some of those resources are what firefox is
>>> having trouble with?
>>>
>>> I also don't have flash installed, nore Java plugin (not even iced-tea)
>> 
>> Right, well I can't do that at work. And I just had to downgrade firefox
>> from 45, because I was *trying* to do my annual required privacy and
>> security refresher, and it opened, it has, I think, flash audio, and
>> firefox crashed, fired it up again, restored, and started and it crashed
>> *again*, and a third time, and that was it: I downgraded, didn't have to
>> (also couldn't) downgrade flash-plugin, but had no trouble at all
>> completing the training. Note that I *could* play streaming media and
>> youtube with 45, but... and, no, you've *got* to be joking to think I'm
>> going to convince upper management to ban flash
>> 
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Re: [CentOS] Reduce existing CentOS 7 installation to "Minimal install" - services?

[Peter]

On 07/05/16 23:16, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> After some more trial and error, I managed to resolve the problem in a
> pragmatic way by doing the following after purging the system:
> 
> # yum groupinstall "Core"
> # yum groupinstall "Base"
> 
> So the missing culprit(s) must have been somewhere in the "Base" package
> group, or at least a dependency to one or more of its packages.

Rather than remove them and add them back use yum shell to just remove
the packages not in base or core:

yum shell
remove *
install kernel @core @base
run
quit


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Re: [CentOS] solved! centos samba sssd active directory

[Stefan Fuhrmann]

Hello all,

with the great help of Sumit Bose from sssd- mailinglist the issue is solved:

"ah, can you try to add 'use_fully_qualified_names = True' to the
[domain/...] section of sssd.conf, restart SSSD and try again? Now
'wbinfo -s ' (lower-case s) should return a result as well."

That did the trick!!

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Re: [CentOS] Reduce existing CentOS 7 installation to "Minimal install" - services?

[Nicolas Kovacs]

Le 06/05/2016 18:31, Johnny Hughes a écrit :
> There actually are a couple more things than core in a minimal install
> .. here is the current minimal list:
> 
> https://git.centos.org/blob/sig-core!comps.git/220ef7b59c95531d3752d4074ce673aa09792c67/c7-minimal-x86_64-RPMS.lst
> 
> some of those might not get installed every time (ie, disk encrypt may
> not be on non-encrypted drives, etc.)
> 
> But it is a good starting point.

After some more trial and error, I managed to resolve the problem in a
pragmatic way by doing the following after purging the system:

# yum groupinstall "Core"
# yum groupinstall "Base"

So the missing culprit(s) must have been somewhere in the "Base" package
group, or at least a dependency to one or more of its packages.

Cheers,

Niki

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