Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager and /etc/resolv.conf

2018-11-17 Thread Nataraj
On 11/17/18 8:31 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:
> On 11/17/2018 07:01 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:
>> On 11/17/2018 06:43 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:
>>> CentOS 7.5 image running on linode.
>>>
>>> unbound running on localhost.
>>>
>>> Have to use a cron job once a minute to keep /etc/resolv.conf using
>>> the localhost for name resolution - whenever NetworkManager gets
>>> restarted (usually only a system boot) it gets over-written.
>>>
>>> It seems every distro has a different way of preventing
>>> NetworkManager from replacing that file.
>>>
>>> I found instructions for Fedora that said create
>>> /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/no-dns.conf containing
>>>
>>> [main]
>>> dns=none
>>>
>>> That doesn't seem to have any effect.
>>>
>>> Poking around, I find a file on boot seems to be created called
>>>
>>> /var/run/NetworkManager/resolv.conf
>>>
>>> It has most of the contents of what ends up in /etc/resolv.conf -
>>> except w/o the last line, which just reads rotate in generated
>>> /etc/resolv.conf.
>>>
>>> It says it's generated by NetworkManager (both /etc/resolv.conf and
>>> the one in /var/run/NetworkManager) but neither are specific enough
>>> to indicate what is causing them to be created so I can turn it off.
>>>
>>> Anyone know how to tell NetworkManager to just not create that file?
>>>
>>> Using a cron job to overwrite it once a minute works but there must
>>> be a proper way.
>>>
>>> I really wish KISS was a design goal when designing system
>>> configuration.
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>>
>> Just found this -
>>
>> # cat dhclient-exit-hooks
>> echo 'options rotate' >> /etc/resolv.conf
>>
>> That's where the last line in /etc/resolv.conf is coming from.
>
> Okay replacing the contents of dhclient-exit-hooks with
>
> echo -e 'nameserver 127.0.0.1\nnameserver ::1' > /etc/resolv.conf
>
> seems to do what I need.
>
> I hope RHEL/CentOS 8 do networking better, as in, not have spaghetti
> scripts called here and there making something that should be a config
> option hard to do.
>
> With DNS the only way to trust results is if the zone is signed and
> local resolver validates. You can't ever trust external nameservers
> defined by dhcp to validate. So there's very valid reasons to want to
> use local unbound.
> ___ 


I don't know about CentOS 7 because I'm running CentOS 6, but on other
systemd distributions where I've run into similar issues I was either
able to add a hardcoded DNS server to network manager or resolve the
problem through systemd-resolved.

In one case I resolved the issue best by disabling systemd-resolved, but
if you check the man page for systemd-resolved as wells as the man page
for  resolved.conf (/etc/systemd/resolved.conf on other distributions)
my sense is you will find a cleaner solution.  It would seem to me that
if you are running bind or powerdns on your local host, then it would
make sense to me to disable systemd-resolved, since you don't need so
many layers of caching dns resolvers.

Nataraj



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Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager and /etc/resolv.conf

2018-11-17 Thread Alice Wonder

On 11/17/2018 07:01 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:

On 11/17/2018 06:43 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:

CentOS 7.5 image running on linode.

unbound running on localhost.

Have to use a cron job once a minute to keep /etc/resolv.conf using 
the localhost for name resolution - whenever NetworkManager gets 
restarted (usually only a system boot) it gets over-written.


It seems every distro has a different way of preventing NetworkManager 
from replacing that file.


I found instructions for Fedora that said create 
/etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/no-dns.conf containing


[main]
dns=none

That doesn't seem to have any effect.

Poking around, I find a file on boot seems to be created called

/var/run/NetworkManager/resolv.conf

It has most of the contents of what ends up in /etc/resolv.conf - 
except w/o the last line, which just reads rotate in generated 
/etc/resolv.conf.


It says it's generated by NetworkManager (both /etc/resolv.conf and 
the one in /var/run/NetworkManager) but neither are specific enough to 
indicate what is causing them to be created so I can turn it off.


Anyone know how to tell NetworkManager to just not create that file?

Using a cron job to overwrite it once a minute works but there must be 
a proper way.


I really wish KISS was a design goal when designing system configuration.
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Just found this -

# cat dhclient-exit-hooks
echo 'options rotate' >> /etc/resolv.conf

That's where the last line in /etc/resolv.conf is coming from.


Okay replacing the contents of dhclient-exit-hooks with

echo -e 'nameserver 127.0.0.1\nnameserver ::1' > /etc/resolv.conf

seems to do what I need.

I hope RHEL/CentOS 8 do networking better, as in, not have spaghetti 
scripts called here and there making something that should be a config 
option hard to do.


With DNS the only way to trust results is if the zone is signed and 
local resolver validates. You can't ever trust external nameservers 
defined by dhcp to validate. So there's very valid reasons to want to 
use local unbound.

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Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager and /etc/resolv.conf

2018-11-17 Thread Alice Wonder

On 11/17/2018 06:43 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:

CentOS 7.5 image running on linode.

unbound running on localhost.

Have to use a cron job once a minute to keep /etc/resolv.conf using the 
localhost for name resolution - whenever NetworkManager gets restarted 
(usually only a system boot) it gets over-written.


It seems every distro has a different way of preventing NetworkManager 
from replacing that file.


I found instructions for Fedora that said create 
/etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/no-dns.conf containing


[main]
dns=none

That doesn't seem to have any effect.

Poking around, I find a file on boot seems to be created called

/var/run/NetworkManager/resolv.conf

It has most of the contents of what ends up in /etc/resolv.conf - except 
w/o the last line, which just reads rotate in generated /etc/resolv.conf.


It says it's generated by NetworkManager (both /etc/resolv.conf and the 
one in /var/run/NetworkManager) but neither are specific enough to 
indicate what is causing them to be created so I can turn it off.


Anyone know how to tell NetworkManager to just not create that file?

Using a cron job to overwrite it once a minute works but there must be a 
proper way.


I really wish KISS was a design goal when designing system configuration.
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Just found this -

# cat dhclient-exit-hooks
echo 'options rotate' >> /etc/resolv.conf

That's where the last line in /etc/resolv.conf is coming from.
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[CentOS] NetworkManager and /etc/resolv.conf

2018-11-17 Thread Alice Wonder

CentOS 7.5 image running on linode.

unbound running on localhost.

Have to use a cron job once a minute to keep /etc/resolv.conf using the 
localhost for name resolution - whenever NetworkManager gets restarted 
(usually only a system boot) it gets over-written.


It seems every distro has a different way of preventing NetworkManager 
from replacing that file.


I found instructions for Fedora that said create 
/etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/no-dns.conf containing


[main]
dns=none

That doesn't seem to have any effect.

Poking around, I find a file on boot seems to be created called

/var/run/NetworkManager/resolv.conf

It has most of the contents of what ends up in /etc/resolv.conf - except 
w/o the last line, which just reads rotate in generated /etc/resolv.conf.


It says it's generated by NetworkManager (both /etc/resolv.conf and the 
one in /var/run/NetworkManager) but neither are specific enough to 
indicate what is causing them to be created so I can turn it off.


Anyone know how to tell NetworkManager to just not create that file?

Using a cron job to overwrite it once a minute works but there must be a 
proper way.


I really wish KISS was a design goal when designing system configuration.
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